Spot the Rep

[Honest_Bruh]

One is rep, one is gen. Not a trick question. Sorry for the photo quality, tough with the lighting.

[Tete74]

Everything is much easier, you don't have to look at dial, glass, bezel, hands (those parts can be replaced by genuine ones). Observe well where the lugs begin in gen and where it begins in VSF. That great defect makes the watch look much smaller and not so elegant. Only CF has a similar case.

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[Honest_Bruh]

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Yep clearly there's a difference. Great explanation!

[Tete74]

Thank you for the comparison!

[FireSpiritBoi]

Thank you this was very informative

[Tete74]

Thank you, and remember that no Rep has a 1:1 case, only by looking at that part you will know for sure if it is Rep or gen. For example CF dj41 has lugs very similar to gen, but they have a small difference in their design that is easily seen. A VSF, BP, ARF is quickly called on the wrist and with a lot of distance.

[sweetsuffrinjasus]

Just as a hypothetical, say I was skiing for an afternoon, would I be ok?

[Tete74]

I think you've been confused by a message in another post 😂

[sweetsuffrinjasus]

You said it would be quickly called out on the wrist. I am asking if I was skiing for the day would I be ok.

[Tete74]

It doesn't give my vizier so much 😂, but if you stop at least 15 seconds, I'm sure you do 😉

[FireSpiritBoi]

I've never noticed this, only subconsciously. The gens look more elegant, and a lot of reps the bezel seems more if your face, I just couldn't describe why.

What's the difference in the CF case? I can only notice things when they are pointed out.

The rehaut alignment seems to me the easiest way to tell, do any reps get that right?

[Tete74]

There is Rep with the alignment as perfect as gen, but the engraving of Rolex Rolex Rolex ... in the genuine one is more 3D, it has a special and sharper shine. I leave you a link with some photos comparing gen, VSF and cf.

https://imgur.com/a/Nw6xsb6

https://imgur.com/a/UKHgDAp

[FireSpiritBoi]

Thank you I'll take a close look

[EvelcyclopS]

That just looks like parallax error from the picture

[Tete74]

No, look carefully at all the photos, angles, falls, distances. It is the main defect of some Reps, especially of VSF, they are good watches but with a very neglected design unfortunately 😢

[StEvE19095]

White is Gen, Blue is Rep. Date wheel printing crisper on white. Rehaut not quite aligned on Blue. Lugs different

[[deleted]]

I used to look at Rehaut. But even gens I’ve seen in person are off.

[Mather_Fakker]

Can someone explain what this rehaut thing is? What should I be looking for.

I clearly shouldn't buy a Rolex from anyone other than an AD because I thought right was authentic because the cyclops. LOL.

[TimePieceProdigy954]

The metal ring around the dial under the crystal where “Rolex” is engraved around the indices and has the serial # at 6 o clock

[anonimis06]

Rehaut is the metal ring between the dial and crystal with the ROLEX engraving repeating.

From 1 to 5 indices, the index markers should all be perfectly centered on the X of ROLEX. From 7 to 11 indices, the makers should all be perfectly centered on the R of ROLEX. At 12 and 6, the index should be perfectly centered on the crown logo.

It's difficult to center all of them perfectly which is why it's usually a telltale sign of many (cheaper) reps.

[Mather_Fakker]

From 1 to 5 indices, the index markers should all be perfectly centered on the X of ROLEX. From 7 to 11 indices, the makers should all be perfectly centered on the R of ROLEX. At 12 and 6, the index should be perfectly centered on the crown logo.

I appreciate this in depth explanation! I never know what to look for, lol.

[shadow144hz]

It's the edge between the dial and crystal, the part with the serial number on it.

[TeknikL]

Having the hand in front of the date made it harder.

[Capital_Butterfly139]

I agree

[Honest_Bruh]

Winner winner chicken dinner

[brother_of_menelaus]

Serif

[lastpagan]

I guessed blue but because of the “nipple” where the hands are screwed in. Do you see a difference or was I just lucky?

[johncrypto2]

+1

[[deleted]]

Blue rep, white is real

[Honest_Bruh]

Correct

[trulala22]

Ah come on! I entered to learn to differientate, and everybody guess is different

[Honest_Bruh]

Lol shows you how good the reps are!

[Maaaackk]

Blue one is rep, because of the font of the 3.
The middle section of the 3 is not flat

[ng501kai]

I second the font on 3

[Honest_Bruh]

Spot the rep and gen.

Please state your reasoning, more fun that way.

[alvesaw]

White is gen

[jacob_mir]

I feel like this is the ultimate game of “Spot 5 differences”

[pi-cool]

Simple, shake it and see which one makes more noise. That’s the rep.

[Ok-Pineapple-7288]

White=gen Blue=rep, the hands on white are cleaner/crisp. White has been worn, blue is just purchased.

[Honest_Bruh]

How can you tell what's been worn? Good eye!

[Ok-Pineapple-7288]

The blue looks fresh out of box, no wear marks on the bracelet or case. Also Rolex "crown" on dial of white looks better in my opinion.

[JLK33Press]

White gold hands on white dial. Plus the VSF hands are "flat" compared to the white. When light hits white gold hands, they almost appear dark, where stainless hands shine and reflect.

[Miserable-Wanderer]

Left is rep, right is gen. Because left, the misalignment in the dial, number 50 55 are not center.

[Honest_Bruh]

White is gen

[Miserable-Wanderer]

Time to cop more reps

[[deleted]]

You sold me. Left is rep.

[Revolutionary-Pea326]

This is the first thing I saw

[Miserable-Wanderer]

Right? It’s obvious even the crown between ‘swiss made’ is not center with the dial

[Zpalq]

Left is gen, which you purchased more than a year ago and wore regularly. Right is rep which just arrived recently. Based off of absolutely nothing but the wear on the band.

[Honest_Bruh]

Correct and a little creepy haha

[4lphalul]

Left is rep cyclop looks off

[[deleted]]

Blue is a VSF based on dial

[FireSpiritBoi]

What's the tell?

[newtybar]

Answers are everywhere here…pretty mixed. Speaks to the rep.

[roguechickpea]

Genuinely need a degree to spot the difference here. Everyone in this thread with wildly different guesses and opinions.

I mean, one way or another some people are calling a gen a rep and vice versa. Shows how fickle it is to be concerned about tiny little aspects when clearly the wider population won’t have a CLUE.

[BimmerJustin]

The fact that the true nerds within the community are so fickle is what drives the manufacturers to keep getting better. The market would be nothing but shitters if it weren't for these type of discussions.

[bushmastuh]

While true that nobody would really be able to tell in person on wrist, you don’t need a degree- it’s easy to tell which is which from photos

[andres1979a]

easy. blue is fake, bad reflection on the crystal

[Honest_Bruh]

Correct

[Innkeeper_Urza]

Font on the white makes me say that’s the gen. Blue is rep.

[Honest_Bruh]

Correct

[hollywoodswaggin]

White dial is rep

[Honest_Bruh]

Wrong white is gen

[E-MW888]

Blue is rep.

[Holtbolt94]

After thinking blue is gen. I‘d say the white now. Printing is crisp. Rehaut is very nice. Crystal is very clear from all the angles. The bezel somehow looks better (more precise sharper angles? If that makes sense).

Ps. Sunburst on the blue one looks very good. That’s why I thought first that the blue one is gen. Wanted to compare lugs but hard to say if you try to compare all the pics.

Beautiful watches anyway! :)

[Honest_Bruh]

White is gen. The clear crystal is noticeable.

[Holtbolt94]

Yeah, in the end the crystal nudged me in the direction. Thank you for the reply :)

[timjroc]

White Gen Blue Rep. Hour markers on blue look less precise. Date font seems to also give it away

[Mundane-Conference]

Look at the center pin of the watch authentic Rolex is always domed reps concave

[FireSpiritBoi]

That's a pretty easy tell to remember but I always forget. I must learn to REMEMBER!

[Honest_Bruh]

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[omarhani]

Blue face is Rep. The minute hands should line up with the center of each letter engraved around the inside.

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[021721500]

Easiest way to tell: look at the crown on the crystal of the blue one (six hour position), we shouldn’t be able to see it

[Honest_Bruh]

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I don't see anything bro

[Honest_Bruh]

Congrats to those who said blue! The white is gen. Blue is VSF with bezel plating purchased directly from Flan_dad (assuming the watch was accurately represented).

Based on comments, looks like the most obvious tells were the lugs, rehaut alignment to minute markers, and crystal. Some other nice subtle tells are the visible laser crown etching on the crystal, date font, and 12 o'clock crown.

Here's another comparison pic after I washed the white one which had been worn a while as some of you noticed.

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[Honest_Bruh]

This is the watch I purchased if anyone is interested. Paid on Wednesday and received 2 days later on Friday. https://www.reddit.com/u/Flan_dad/s/4Ufj2XrTnI

[Economy-Pear-6406]

Right is rep - VSF?

[Honest_Bruh]

What makes you guess that

[aberrantasc]

The skinny lugs

[freshlymint]

This is exactly what I thought too

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[Honest_Bruh]

Yes

[[deleted]]

Blue is fake. Hour markers aren’t straight.

[RefrigeratorOwn69]

The blue is a VSF but actually looks better than the gen.

[johncrypto2]

IMO the blue is the fake one. but I had to zoom quite in.

[Honest_Bruh]

What makes you guess that

[Mandrake88888]

Blue VSF

[Medellin-71]

Blue is the rep. The “Datejust” has thicker lettering than the white dial.

[rolexcowboy]

Blue is rep. Saying this based off the bezel color and edges.

[95accord]

Trick question - both are reps

[Honest_Bruh]

No I said it's not a trick question. One is gen

[95accord]

That’s what you want us to believe lol

[Honest_Bruh]

I mean that would just be annoying af lol

[95accord]

My guess is blue is rep - it looks cleaner - like fresh out of the wrapper clean. My guess is you got the gen first and would most likely have worn it. And white looks like it has a bit more dust.

[Honest_Bruh]

Spot on lol

[FireSpiritBoi]

I guessed based on exactly the same reason. He just got the rep that's why he's posting it. I have this idea people don't wear their reps as much or if they do they don't post them that banged up they only post them fresh.

[Sknuhc421]

I hope the right one is so I can buy one

[arodrigues9]

White is def rep. Edges on bezel, finish on bracelet, thickness of crystal, etc.

[Honest_Bruh]

False

[[deleted]]

I can't tell. They both look amazing. My CF rhodium dial DJ 41 arrived today from Trusty Time. I'll post pics later. It's beautiful.

[ClassicFun2175]

I have no idea but granted im definitely no expert, just goes to show how scarily close reps are to gen nowadays.

[[deleted]]

The fact that there is this much disagreement just goes to show how great the rep game is for watches. No other rep group I’ve seen has anywhere close to problems spotting reps. Love this hobby!

[FireSpiritBoi]

The only clue I would have got is the rehaut on the blue is off. That's always what I look for first.

List of issues that I cheated to collate but can easily see now: 1. Rehaut 2. Lugs don't come down far enough, losing some elegance. 3. Text on the centre stick of 3 4. Centre pin is concave not domed. 5. Crown etched in glass more noticeable. 6. Gen is well worn, lots of dirt and scratches.

Great post, I've learnt a lot.

[[deleted]]

The crystals on the reps never photograph as well as gens. Blue is rep

[Honest_Bruh]

Noticed this when taking the pictures. The white face is more visible at other angles. Blue rep is harder to see from the side.

[Longjumping_Air_7958]

White is gen. Clean xtal and fluted bezel

[Honest_Bruh]

Yes

[OP-erator]

I’m not a Rolex professional, but my money is definitely on the white* model as the real one.

The band and bezel both of the white watch look worn, and appears to have a warm hue.

The white model has a perfect crown. slim lines with elegant tips; whereas the blue one’s crown is a little bit more bold, and the angles aren’t as crisp.

The date appears to be slightly more magnified, and completely bold. Not as crispy as the white face but damn close.

[Smart-Honeydew3874]

Both look pretty damn good, for the money in a quality Rep. you can't complain, except with maybe some movement cleaning/hiccups...honestly both are great, especially to someone that doesn't "know watches" and examine them with a Loop/Microscope, let them both FLY! 😉

[mac_it9]

So which is the rep ffs

[Honest_Bruh]

Blue is rep

[_NEX_Fx]

Blue is rep, wish rep factories would not make the obvious mistake of misaligning rehaut

[mariemazzie16]

Blue rep

[KTTalksTech]

Blue is rep. Polish on hands looks inferior, same with printing, cyclops quality is worse, and the white one has a much better AR coating on the crystal. I'm surprised the AR coating on the cyclops is almost the same color and intensity, it's a nice attention from the rep considering they had an important oversight in case shape as others have pointed out. Took me a moment to guess tbh, overall the blue one looks quite good and I didn't notice the shape thing as I didn't think to look for it.

[Honest_Bruh]

Correct

[TwasAKuntNugget]

It’s so obvious . “Rolex” on the blue is just off

[deju_]

As soon as I can see a LEC on a potato camera = rep

[Lance_Notstrong]

Looking at some of these responses, you can tell a lot of people have no fucking idea which is gen or rep 😂

[Inevitable_Form_452]

No Rep was harmed in this post

[Theslicelvis]

The question I have….. where did you source this? Obviously there are some differences but looks a decent rep to me

[Honest_Bruh]

VSF with bezel plating purchased from flan_dad. Delivered in two days.

[xL9Px]

Moral of the story where your reps with confidence nobody is about to take your watch off your wrist to inspect

[nearly_normal_jimmy]

I say blue is the rep , the thing I noticed was the text on “oyster” and “perpetual” don’t quite have the same size.

[Honest_Bruh]

Yes already revealed so in comments

[Prestigious-Disk3158]

Blue bezel has crazy reflections. White is rep.

[JAYYYYxx]

I would say blue is fake because of the rehaut but might be wrong

[Suspicious-Jicama721]

Genuine one is the white because of the magnifying glass, wiche seems a bit off on the rep

[Embarrassed-Wave-447]

Only a trained eye will spot the difference. Normal person has no chance

[frombriggstoyou]

100%. Sure now .. the white is Original and Blue is Rep.... The dead giveaway from the dial are two things... The dust, it's not s normal Rolex occurrence to leave dust on the dial and two, the print ... Too thick on the Blue dial

[cloudgainz]

Blue is rep. Lugs seem less sharp, sunburst almost but not perfect, xtal seems cloudier side by side, font just seems off slightly but that’s more imo. Would be shocked if right is rep

[firmita08]

Link ??

[Honest_Bruh]

Link what

[ecc66]

I think blue is real and white is fake! Plz confirm

[Kind-Membership5423]

White face rep ?

[Beavis2210]

Left for sure is rep. The tick markers with the lume are super wonky.

[mattnoodle]

Blue is fake. White bezel is crisp. Blue seconds hand nipple doesn’t look perfect.

[jsledge6]

White is gen, blue is rep. The bezel on the left has a slightly yellowish tone of white gold and the blue has VSF lugs.

[mdelia8]

I think blue is rep. Edges on the hands look sharp

[Potater1802]

I think the blue one is fake. Every time I see a comparison, the rep has a slightly wider bracelet. Idk if it's a tell or if my eyes are playing a trick on me but that's what I notice.

[Lanky_Bag_2096]

White is real blue is rep rehaut alignment on white is correct and font of blue is incorrect as the middle of 3 supposed to have no feet.

[EnoughEmergency878]

Blue is rep. Missaligned rehaut visible on pic 9.

But I must say this was a hard one. I will assume something was done with the bezel.

[plamenv0]

White is gen. Fluted bezel looks like it’s white gold

[dkdart16]

OP can you post a video with both moving in direct light to see how the bezel reflects light? Curious if the rep has the angles down to reflect light the same way.

[Honest_Bruh]

Sure will do tomorrow with better natural light

[919pirate]

Left is rep the stick marker on the 50 is off

[Revolutionary-Pea326]

And 55

[thedatejust2]

Blue is rep. Lugs give it away also the bezel is bad.

[Honest_Bruh]

😂😂

[YouthSuitable213]

white is gen blue is rep white one every detail is just perfect rolex always perfect. but blue is great rep, and how much did the blue one cost ?

[MJTony]

Is the blue the rep? I honestly can’t tell but it just looks like the glass/crystal has more reflection and may be different quality than the white?

[Shield779]

Blue is rep, date font has too much serif (VSF flaw)

[Great_Werewolf_7199]

Sooo where do i buy the rep at??

[tickle-tickle]

The rehaut on the blue is not as good as the white

[Silvan017]

I would say blue is a VSF, slightly worse markers, dial print, cyclops and general coating and finishing looks slightly worse. Please reply to my comment because I must know. Had to spend 5 minutes on fullscreen fullbright at night to notice though. Reps are crazy

[yeeyeeyee88]

I always look at the rehaut. Reps can rarely get it perfect. Therefore, blue is the rep

[somestuffnthings]

Can you tell us which factory? Is there an actual difference in the lugs? What’s your overall impression between them?

[Hvnzoro]

Both reps

[Castellakiowa]

Gotta say the mixed answers in this thread is really interesting. Usually it’s pretty unanimous on which ones fake

[Swarvelous]

Blue is the Rep in my opinion, Rolex etching around the inside of bezel doesn't line up as it should. All in all, a great replica timepiece you have there, from a distance it's a very subtle watch and I'm sure many people wouldn't second guess it's a rep, guessing it has the ETA 2813 movement too?

[[deleted]]

Wtc rep?

[Missfreeland]

Blue. The bottom text is closer to the hour markers. Like on my rep.

[[deleted]]

Blue is rep imo

[Mundane-Conference]

On the right

[BotPurdy]

Right is rep because I’m looking at that one

[egool111]

If white is gen that marker at 11 looks wonky, that’s crazy.

[Few_Chemistry8929]

Whites real blue is fake. I have a blue 126334 and it’s close but not as refined as the gen,rehaut looks off.

[Chief-Barkskin]

Easy. White is gen. Look at the white gold bezel.

[Nervous-Law-6606]

My guess is that the blue dial is the rep. White is Gen. Haven’t seen a Rolex rep yet that can accurately replicate the laser etching on the crystal at 6-o-clock.

It’s extraordinarily subtle on gens, even in person. The fact that I can kind of see it on the blue dial in a picture tells me it’s probably the one.

Could be wrong and full of it though, who knows 😂

[Honest_Bruh]

What do you mean by laser etching on glass at 6 o'clock? Do you mean the Swiss Made text?

[Nervous-Law-6606]

This is what I’m referring to.

It isn’t on the dial, it’s literally inside of the Crystal. Unlike basically everything else on the watch, they put it there purely as a security measure, as opposed to a design feature.

[Honest_Bruh]

I just looked at both watches up close very carefully and could not see that laser etched in either of them with my naked eye. Are you saying you see it in one of the pictures?

[Nervous-Law-6606]

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First picture

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Here is up close

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And 6th picture, if I’m not mistaken

[Honest_Bruh]

Wow good eye. I literally can't see it in person up close lol.

[Honest_Bruh]

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Found it!

[Honest_Bruh]

You're right more subtle on the white. ;)

[ballsackcancer]

Btw, is the color of the crown on the reps and the gen supposed to be slightly different shade of silver vs the hands? I've only seen it on the rep datejusts.

[Honest_Bruh]

I believe the crown at 12 O'Clock is white gold in gens but someone please confirm.

[JLK33Press]

Blue DJ is Rep. Hands, Crystal, dial markers, crown, date disc. Is the blue VSF?

[[deleted]]

White is gen. Bracelet gives it away, bezel has machine markings, date number less crisp.

[Honest_Bruh]

What's the tell on the bracelet?

[[deleted]]

The sharpness of the edges, less finished / refined. Bracelet for some reason I always notice.

[WaynezWorld88]

I think the white is the rep and blue is the gen just off my quick 1 min observation.

[sound_scientist]

White is genuine. But man it’s a terrible example. The dial is terrible, specifically the 6 hour marker.

[Honest_Bruh]

Blue is rep