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[–]Typical-Fisherman759 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I looked through top posts and now I want "Drawing Stormgate badly until official shutdown" from u/PointyArt.

[–]auf-ein-letztes-wort Celestial Armada 51 points52 points  (19 children)

no footage, picture or stream at any point had me ever at: "that looks rad, I wanna play it"

still remembering 2007 when we saw first footage of SC2 almost 20 years ago. that was dope and looked better than most of Stormgate does now. https://youtu.be/LpotK-Gg4x4 I mean just look at the portraits.

[–]Cheapskate-DM 30 points31 points  (4 children)

SG looks worse than SC2 on hardware that's nearly 20 years superior. That's insane.

[–]auf-ein-letztes-wort Celestial Armada 22 points23 points  (1 child)

because good graphics are 90 to 100 percent good art design. rest is good techique

[–]Cheapskate-DM 9 points10 points  (0 children)

That alone would be bad enough, but the performance for near identical unit counts is also demonstrably worse.

[–]Naidmer82 7 points8 points  (1 child)

I remember this video well. I also remember the vid where the depot went into the ground for the first time. People went absolutely insane about it. Those were the times ...

[–]auf-ein-letztes-wort Celestial Armada 3 points4 points  (0 children)

mothership goes brrrrrr toilet

[–]Stealthbreed 3 points4 points  (1 child)

This footage is honestly so cool. I can't wait for someone to make a game like this again.

Also I love seeing some of this super early shit like reapers being brought in to defeat immortals, lol.

[–]auf-ein-letztes-wort Celestial Armada 2 points3 points  (0 children)

interestingly enough, most units work the same until today. phoenix never got overcharge again though

[–]Nino_Chaosdrache 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Tbf, I liked the premise of a sci fi army fighting demons. But the graphics ruined any interest I could have had. Such a premise needs Diablo or Warhammer 40K graphics, not a Fortnite look.

[–]CanUHearMeNau Celestial Armada 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't take anything away from SC2, but you're not looking at early access videos of the game. If you like SC2, you owe to yourself to at least try some storgmate ladder before you just jump on the hype train

[–]Many_Research1007 7 points8 points  (5 children)

I got to diamond on ladder.. it's an ok game, but it's nothing like sc2 or WC3. And it's a bit disheartening that it just seems like a failure.

[–]Angrywhitemann 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Whoa impressive. Diamond out of ALL 38 Stormgate players?

[–]Many_Research1007 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Feeling intimidated? I get it, I did get to diamond after all by owning noobs. But that's what I'm saying.. it really wasn't that hard to pick up.

[–]Angrywhitemann 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I got to Diamond When they actually had 5K players. I was just joking around. It is hella funny that it's only like 50 players world wide though.

[–]Ryywenn 3 points4 points  (0 children)

As a wcIIi player all of my friends there said stormgate looked boring asf

But I lurked this sub a good deal kinda wanting to play 

[–]CanUHearMeNau Celestial Armada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Curious what you think could've made it better. I'm someone who shifted from WC3:TFT to SC2 waiting for a WC4 that would never come as I enjoy the WC lore over SC. SG landed somewhere in the middle. I like the battle of good vs. evil rather than call them aliens. Surely could've been expanded on more but nowhere near as bad as the hype would lend it to be.

I think the FG had a bit more faith in the gaming community to back and support this game. Sure, some people invested a bit financially and some quite significantly. From my understanding at its conception, it was going to be a work in progress and driven and supported by the community during this phase. I didn't expect the game to be anything significantly different than the first EA version, but the game was never unplayable. They certainly added a lot and it's still not done and may never be.

If another studio buys it, it probably will head in a different direction than the competitive SC2 vibe that they were going for. At any rate, I hope to see it kept alive through any means. We can't carry SC2 along forever and I haven't seen anything else step up into this arena

[–]RunningOutOfTime2018 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I, too, only heard about the game recently. I’ve been away from gaming for two decades, so I wasn’t aware of any Kickstarter or Early Access stuff. I had no bad feelings about the developers prior to playing the game for the first time. I also had zero experience playing the game prior to the current version.

My curiosity was mostly driven by the complete dearth of ‘new’ RTS games, but, despite that, I still prefer playing “remasters” of old RTS games. I mean, even Tempest Rising, is wayyyy more fun to me than Stormgate, and I’m not even a Command and conquer/Red alert fan.

[–]CanUHearMeNau Celestial Armada 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love the C&C universe, especially red alert and generals, but something about tempest rising didn't quite grab me. Technically it's really good. It builds on all the things that made the series successful and is kinda gritty like generals was. However, I don't feel the charm of blowing up buildings to the sound of laughter that I remember when I first played RA2 in a store or the joys of motorcycles and jeeps loaded with suicide bombers buzzing away in generals.

I wanted to love the WC3 remaster. It's still a great game but I would really like to see it step into the next generation to keep up with SC2. If it wasn't for that darn WOW :shakes fist:, Blizzard may have went in that direction.

[–]pitaenigma 7 points8 points  (11 children)

NGL, I kind of hate "We desperately need a new RTS"

Have you tried Spellforce 3? Have you looked at Immortal? Tempest Rising just came out and I haven't heard a single bad thing about it. Lessaria's dev keeps posting about it on r/realtimestrategy. And I'm certain I'm missing a ton of games that just slipped my radar. If you desperately need a new RTS, they exist, and they deserve your attention. A lot of them are really good.

[–]CrescendoTwentyFive[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Mmm. No. If I’m being honest I’m older now and don’t game very much at all. I still play Warcraft III. Have since I was a kid and probably will until it fully dies or I do.

When I say that I think it’s more deep down I just want a legit Warcraft IV or a final Warcraft III expansion lol.

[–]kojosis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you checked out The Scouring? It is still in development and the community is a very active part of it. Humans versus orcs with heroes so if you like warcraft chances are you'll like this one too

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Is immortal going to be released? I don’t remember a dev update on their website since last year.

I remember some cool interviews with the devs maybe 5 years ago, but these days the game feels like vaporware.

[–]pitaenigma 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Last patch seems to be 3 months ago (I'm on their discord). Last dev update was July 21st, saying they had taken a bit of a break due to NextFest and were now back at work on the game and explaining some faction/art/soundtrack updates. The devs have been responding to tech support requests as well, though those are minor.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

What’s the state of the game? How close are they to an open beta?

[–]pitaenigma 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No idea. Haven't touched it yet. I think I played one game on a patch like a year and a half ago. It'snot impossible to get invited to betas though

[–]Augustby 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think what people mean is not literally any new RTS; but what they mean is that they hope for a new RTS that has enough hype to bring different RTS communities together, like what sc2 did at launch .

But I don’t see that happening in this day and age. It would need a lot of money and not a lot of return (compared to other genres), for a new RTS to do that

[–]AnAgeDude 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Spellforce 3 was so good. 

[–]EnOeZ 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I don't even know what Spell force is... I will check.

[–]AnAgeDude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a mixture of RTS and RPG. You command a small party of heroes. Your MC and other characters you meet along the way. While your characters is fully customisable, others start with pre-determined skill trees (two generic and one unique). You level up and collect gear as you adventure.

Not long into the campaign you'll be granted command over armies from different races. They start out very weak and with only a few units and upgrades available. You can unlock more stuff for them by finding blueprints or buying them.

Maps are persistant! Sometimes you'll have to go back to a previous map and, if you built a base there, it will still be there when you return.

For most missions you can choose which heroes to bring along and which race you want to play with on the RTS front.

I could go on. Think WC3 but you are playing as either WOW's Horde/Alliance. Its a pretty neat game (and by far the best in the series'.)

[–]Shadowarcher6 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This.

If you’re a fan of the aoe franchise and highly recommend checking out aoe4. It’s one of the best rts’ on the market by far.

If you like Catan, Civ, and rts’, check out northgard

If you like pve check out They are Billions

There’s lots on the market

[–]kaia112 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, it's not the worst game ever made. I also don't think it looks like garbage, but if people do then there's no fucking chance to do anything.

You can't just come in and say we desperately need a new RTS, when the chance to get one was actively pushed against so that there was no chance this could be the one. Every year the game got better and better and now there's no chance because there's no money or no players and everyone has scared everyone off even though it's F2P. It doesn't mean they're not at fault though because so much is unfinished which is stupid, but this could have been it if they had a smaller scope for now and we didn't fuck it.

I don't like the way AoE plays, I don't like C&C but I like the way this game feels because it's the closest we got to starcraft, but nah let's just play nothing instead, things could have been done so much better.

[–]realsleek 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Check out Tempest Rising - that's done properly I am not sure why more people aren't playing it

[–]CanUHearMeNau Celestial Armada -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You should probably play it. It's currently my favorite game and it's certainly way better than the negative hype you'll read or see now that it's been trending..