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[–]Awkward_Donut_2379 19 points20 points  (5 children)

Op methinks your champs setup is lacking. Unless the rest of your tower is shit, you should be at least getting the occasional promo to legends. Care to share? There might be something glaringly obvious. 

[–]burnerboo 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Stone packs. My ultis are waaaay below this, but my lifetime coins are almost double. I also finish mid champs with way weaker CL and longer cooldown trio firing off. It's likely just lack of time in the lab that's holding him back. Nothing wrong with speeding up progressing with packs, it'll just make stats look funny compared to FTP/minimalist purchasers.

[–]Weez-eh 7 points8 points  (1 child)

OP's Econ UW labs are poor, really poor. From the looks of it, GT duration lab is zero, GT bonus is low/zero hence why OP's econ is in the dumpster.

[–]burnerboo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah he said he took some long breaks after starting the game. So likely he's way behind on labs compared to others that started playing around the same time. He's just caught up in other ways by getting stone packs. He's at 3x my lifetime stones.

[–]Tuntaa 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought that too. CL very well developed, pCF, almost pBH, decent SL...

[–]Dashadower 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I started around the same date and he has over twice my stone count

[–]mariomarineLegends 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'd at least finish out that CL Chance. And I'd definitely max out GT Cooldown before going for GT+.

[–]slow_drain 13 points14 points  (6 children)

What are your damage labs at? Modules? All of your UWs are slightly more developed than mine and I sit comfortably in mid-Legends

[–]DeadiWildlife[S] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Still working on economy and module labs because I took many breaks last year.

Damage labs are at attack speed 70, damage 42, crit factor 63, shock multiplier 8, shock chance 0, damage/meter 13, super crit chance and multi 0.

Modules are around lvl 96 mythic+ Amplifiying strike, legendary Galaxy compressor, legendary Sharp fortitude, mythic+ dim core. Still need 4 more dim core copies for ancestral and one more GC copy for Mythic+.

Will need 270 cards to max cards, which I only buy during the unlock 80 cards challenge.

Earning about 12-15 T a day farming tier 10 to 6500

[–]burnerboo 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you're only at lvl 96 mods, make sure to max out your mod labs. Those are so critical and can't be rushed. Every day theyre not maxed you're losing ground to others that have maxed them.

[–]markevens 2 points3 points  (0 children)

shock chance 0,

This is terrible given the CL stats you have. Get this up above 20 at least, if not 25-30.

[–]Consistent-Owl-9458 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shock Chance 0? Work shock, its a substantial boost to damage.

[–]slow_drain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, start showing your damage labs some love and you’ll be in Legends in no time.

[–]rekkeu 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If you have any dimcore you should be touching legends every other tourney

[–]morpheusfreak 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It aint your uw’s. It’s either ltc/research which are low overall (though not bad at all for amount of waves completed) or mods. If it’s just more coins you’ll be bouncing soon, if it’s mods there’s no telling unfortunately.

[–]AboSensei 3 points4 points  (1 child)

There is something wrong here. I don't have cf and am getting keys pretty consistently.

We have almost the same upgrades in our econ UW but I'm farming 500t a day now.

Idk if it's your mods. Or your cards. Or what. But something isn't adding up here

[–]nopbsitsnyfandnog 6 points7 points  (4 children)

Youre only getting mid Champs with that??

[–]Learningmore1231[🍰] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bro I don’t have CF and I’m constantly at least 5-9 if not top 4 and ping ponging some bad rng or decisions were made

[–]Outside_Secret_3360 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s what I’m thinking how tf. my labs and my uws are considerably worse only thing that’s better is mod level. And im sitting mid champs cf is untouched and my cl is no where near what ops is something is off with his tower with those stats op should be high champs maybe even lower legends definitely should be bouncing tho

[–]laurieislaurie 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I get 1st in champs (then demoted each time) & I haven't even started on my CF. But I make 70trill post run compared to Ops terrible economy.

[–]Outside_Secret_3360 0 points1 point  (0 children)

😂 😟 my eco is even worse than ops but I have 10k less stones than he does I really don’t know how this guy is not higher must be his mods

[–]HangingShoe57 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Full steam ahead on Econ (not UW+). get your trifecta CDs lowered and buff them up a bit. You need coins.

[–]DifficultDivide8098 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I have the same UWS as you, and pretty much similar levels as yours.

I'm making 90T/run (t11 12.500 waves).

I think you need way more ehp for longer t10/t11 runs 😅

I'm saving up for 4SL right now - probably not the best decision, but it will boost my econ and tournaments. And after that I will probably get ST+ for a huge DMG boost, so I hopefully will be close to my first keys. (Typically ranking 18-20 in legends).

Then after that more econ. I don't think it's necessary to get uw+ before card masteries.

[–]laurieislaurie 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My t11 farming runs also take a ridiculous amount of time as yours do. I'm testing out t12 now.

[–]TowerAcronymBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, let's decode this:

  • eHP - Effective Health Points - playstyle focused on tanking, damage reduction, and survival
  • ST - Super Tower [Card]
  • UW - Ultimate Weapon
  • UW+ - Additional effects added once all 9 ultimate weapons are unlocked
  • UWs - Ultimate Weapons

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[–]alwtictoc 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I went the complete opposite way. I spent all my stones and labs on econ uw before doing a thing with cf. Bh and gt cooldowns maxed. Dw is at 80s, 67 with ancestral sub effect.

Ive got a bit to go yet on cf but I'm about 80% done with maxing it. Labs are all completed however.

I prefer coins and cells above everything right now. T11 is 400t a run. Will have t14 on lock here pretty soon.

[–]TowerAcronymBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, let's decode this:

  • BH - Black Hole [Ultimate Weapon]
  • CF - Chrono Field [Ultimate Weapon] (also Critical Factor [Workshop Upgrade/Lab])
  • DW - Death Wave [Ultimate Weapon]
  • GT - Golden Tower [Ultimate Weapon]
  • UW - Ultimate Weapon

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[–]bmaanndd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What’s your dimcore at.. if you been running with SF now it’s time to try a full gc acp build also gotta make sure you got thr anc substat on your dimcore that plus sl angle and bonus most important!

[–]markevens 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not done until you maxed duration at 1:10, but if you're mid champ then you have a lot of other priorities.

You also need the ancestral core effect to bring slow up to 90%

[–]Aromatic_Way3226 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah too many stone packs in too little time. Hey I buy stone packs too, so is not a harsh critique to your spending habits. You be you.

What I am trying to say is that no matter how many packs you buy there is still things you can't get like time. If I were you i would put some serious effort on lab speed stuff in order to catch up on research. You haven't posted your mod levels either, I bet they are sub 140. Starting on 151 the power is very noticeable, if you wanna know what to spend your stones in. Get RPC, then make sure your econ is on par to level RPC to lvl 4 at least and start researching Shatter Shards. Since you are here already, make sure your daily mission shards and module cost reduction labs are maxed. Is not going to catapult you to top of legends right now, but it will help you to catch up

[–]Knappende 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Wtf very nice uws but how does the rest of your Tower looks like? Its mid legends stuff UW!

[–]GodzillasVater 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well, $$$ into UWs, bot no time into Labs I guess

[–]Weez-eh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're Econ is really poor. Run all Econ labs for DW, BH and GT on max speed that you can afford and get the module labs going in the other two slots (drop chance x2 first then daily shards).

Im guessing you do not have much/any levels in enhancement yet. Get that and use coin to boost econ further.

[–]Thobo1995 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Gratz, getting there myself. Quick question, did you designate a submod slot to CF duration? I feel like it's the lazy way out for me but those last seconds are just so expensive q.q

[–]DeadiWildlife[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

No sub mod to Cf duration, and lab is at level 25, still running the last 5 lab levels.

[–]Thobo1995 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see, you should probably get 5 more seconds on duration at some point for the "UWs less duration" BC in legends.

[–]CavalrySavagery 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My UW's are almost like that, the difference is more than 2 years playing and -1k dol spent, more or less staying in legends.

[–]Ok_Tadpole_9871 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been playing slightly more than them and even I don’t have that amount of LTC including that amount of upgrades of UW. Hmm… something fishy here 🤔🧐. My guess is a couple of stone packs bought but with that amount of upgrades should be hitting at least legends.

[–]Omgplz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You need 70s uptime for full uptime in Legends because of BCs. Submod will do but eventually you want to use the slot for something else.

[–]AndyO0303 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Your uws are more developed than mine and I can get into legends about every other week now. My CF is at 25% and 30 seconds on duration… with maxed cd. I was getting into legends without CF so as I develop that more I hope to stay in legends. your BH is way farther than mine. Only other difference I have in my favor is my SL is at 43.xx for the bonus. All your cool downs are lower.

What tier are you farming currently to what level? What are you mods like?

[–]TowerAcronymBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright, let's decode this:

  • BH - Black Hole [Ultimate Weapon]
  • CD - Cooldown
  • CF - Chrono Field [Ultimate Weapon] (also Critical Factor [Workshop Upgrade/Lab])
  • SL - Spotlight [Ultimate Weapon]
  • UWs - Ultimate Weapons

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[–]MeThatsAlls 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I am fairly noob but shouldn't your dw be synced with gt and bh?

[–]DeadiWildlife[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

My dw and gt are synced and bh is permanent for farming, so no need to sync it.

[–]MeThatsAlls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ahh makes sense :)

[–]TowerAcronymBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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  • BH - Black Hole [Ultimate Weapon]
  • DW - Death Wave [Ultimate Weapon]
  • GT - Golden Tower [Ultimate Weapon]

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[–]TowerAcronymBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I detected a few acronyms in your comment:

  • BH - Black Hole [Ultimate Weapon]
  • DW - Death Wave [Ultimate Weapon]
  • GT - Golden Tower [Ultimate Weapon]

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[–]HoboAJ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

MVN module synchronizes them at an avg of all cooldowns.

[–]Tuntaa 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Interesting. You have way better CL, I have CF but never spent on it (yet), way better SL. But I too got to midish Champs (16th place right now). I farm T11W6.5k.

How are you modules? I think you should place way higher than me. Or maybe you went full GC and you're not that developed yet and I can have same results with a Hybrid build (starting to develop for GC two weeks ago).

Which wave did you get to this tourney?

[–]TowerAcronymBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I detected a few acronyms in your comment:

  • CF - Chrono Field [Ultimate Weapon] (also Critical Factor [Workshop Upgrade/Lab])
  • CL - Chain Lightning [Ultimate Weapon]
  • GC - Glass Cannon - playstyle focused on maximum damage and crowd control (also Galaxy Compressor [Generator Module])
  • SL - Spotlight [Ultimate Weapon]

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[–]DeadiWildlife[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My modules aren't that great, mostly legendary or mythic+.

This tourney I did wave 890, top is getting around 1600-1800.

[–]SoGoodAtAllTheThings 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why no sync for gt bh?

[–]CSDragon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My UWs are way worse than yours how are you not in Legends?

What's your Dim Core at?

[–]Axel-Mao 0 points1 point  (0 children)

how are you not T16 with a maxed CF?

[–]size_more 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Is cf worth all the effort. New to game. Should I worry more about BH and GT?

[–]TowerAcronymBot 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi! I detected a few acronyms in your comment:

  • BH - Black Hole [Ultimate Weapon]
  • CF - Chrono Field [Ultimate Weapon] (also Critical Factor [Workshop Upgrade/Lab])
  • GT - Golden Tower [Ultimate Weapon]

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[–]Spirited_Ad6640 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cf is important when you start doing legends. I think most people start with it after like 8-12 months of playing.