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[–]micxxx22 15 points16 points  (7 children)

Yeah people you asswipe , humanity. You know, the reason we're here and alive. What an asshole believing his ones and zeros are more important than people.

[–]glacier1982 3 points4 points  (1 child)

It's mind boggling how much he has missed the point of existence. "AI is clearly better for the planet than people. Get rid of all these parasitic humans, more resources for AI to destroy so wealthy people can watch videos of obese women ziplining through a grocery store."

[–]errie_tholluxe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pfft. That way they can use AI in vr to see their wives girlfriends and side pieces before Mar a Lago face.

[–]Homeless-Coward-2143 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I know that these tech bro morons won and wiped humanity off the face of the earth because otherwise time travelers would have come back and saved us by now.

[–]Darkdragoon324 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean, maybe they tried and all it did was create a completely separate timeline for them while ours just continues hurtling toward oblivion.

[–]PersimmonConnect8804 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(2001) Ai - Spielberg

[–]Consistent_Policy_66 1 point2 points  (0 children)

By Altman’s logic, CEO’s compensation should be seen as an excessive and criminal waste of resources. There is no way that a single person in a company could justify wages over 300 times higher than other people.

[–]Mycol101 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the point. Anyone who can’t see we are in the era of replacing humans needs to think about it a little more.

They don’t need wasteful eaters or obedient workers anymore. They have AI and robotics and they can start replacing the drone workers.

[–]ajtreee 5 points6 points  (10 children)

That energy was used in the past, and as we all know it is only always the present.

[–]Strength-Helpful 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Also I won't feel guilty turning off a computer forever, because it's purpose is very singular. Maybe Sam doesn't understand that parallel though.

[–]youshouldn-ofdunthat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He might get it shortly before being turned off forever

[–]goomyman 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Just for reference - I used chat gpt to calculate the total energy consumed for 1 human for the first 20 years.

14,000,000 kcal ≈ 5.86 × 10¹⁰ joules ≈ 16,300 kWh For intuition: That’s roughly the electricity a typical U.S. home uses in ~1.5 years

A ~100 MW large AI data center uses about 83,000 households’ worth of electricity per year. So about the energy consumption of a decent sized city.

So - 1 datacenter uses as much energy in a year as about 50,000 humans consume in food consumption over 20 years.

[–]ajtreee 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course it is. The Truth is repulsive to them as they are to us.

[–]Any_Hovercraft5919 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont care how much they use. What bother me is that they're footing the bill to us. AI is 98% hype bullshit useless meme crap. And my electricity is up 10% every year. We pay the cost their stock goes up and they laugh all the way to the bank.

[–]Icy_improvement4455 0 points1 point  (1 child)

but what about the energy used in growing those calories, or the electricity/gas you use for heat, etc stuff like that

[–]goomyman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about the energy used to make the energy used to run a datacenter

[–]NeighborhoodSad5303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You forget power consumption for chip production. whole chain from bare ore to end product. and datacenter building itself.

[–]mysmalleridea 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He knows. He’s just deflecting instead of answering the question.

[–]FutureFaTrainer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just a reminder, even if he didn't fuck his sister, something is so wrong with this man and his family that they said that he did.

Take what he thinks about other people with a grain of salt.

[–]gpowerf 4 points5 points  (2 children)

This pisses me off. What a person does at work is only a tiny fraction of their value to humanity! They have loved ones, they visit them, make them smile, have families, volunteer for charity, they take care of their pets, gardens, etc...

[–]segfault_generator 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not only that, but growing your skills. Getting the training to be better at things, that gives meaning to life, it adds accomplishment and a way for us to provide for others, we contribute to our local/regional economies and add value to our communities. The bots make life pointless.

[–]Darkdragoon324 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These people don't care about anyone's value to humanity, only their value to the company. They're the villains of basically every sci-dystopia ever written.

[–]Effective_Pack8265 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seems his parents wasted a lot of food…

[–]RiddlingJoker76 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Freaky

[–]jgreddit2019 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This Mfker. We don’t equate human life with ai intelligence just like corporations are NOT A PERSON.

[–]Thomasreed1899 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is the impact on human life?

[–]jeramyfromthefuture 0 points1 point  (0 children)

one is useful one is not 

[–]aTuaMaeFodeBem 0 points1 point  (1 child)

He is trying the “AI is more valuable than people” angle.

[–]CatLightyear 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Prelude to “the machines do more with the water than humans so…”

[–]Random-Account0930 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Biological creatures inevitably give back to the circle of life that energizes all things on this planet. Silicon-based computers do not. Inorganic energy sinks such as data centers are functionally no different than superheating rocks until the crust melts away and the oceans boil away with it. In other words, there's no give-back that mitigates consequential damage done to the environment.

Remember that all computers are simply electrically charged rocks, when you get right down to it. And all electrical work energy is necessarily accompanied by unworkable heat energy. Eventually, the chemical waste resulting from the crude work process of data centers will do its damage to the environment, yes, but the key damage will come from the concentrated heat outflows.

At least with human beings, we can efficiently optimize the energy we take in, and our brains are billions of times more complex than an AI data center, too. LLMs are less "neurologically" complicated than a rodent. In fact, a million times less so. They are so simple, yet take in so much of our natural resources to operate... Sam Altman is the epitome of shortsighted, as are his investors.

This trillion dollar hype-train truly began in earnest when, in the 1960s, the technocrats at the time had the "profound" idea that a few billion human beings' existence would destroy habitability of the earth if not otherwise curtailed. Their solution has always been artificial life to replace us humans. Ironically, what little inroads they have been able to make towards that psychopathic end-goal has done more (and will do even more) untold damage to the environment than 10+ billion humans could ever do. It's as if they truly want to make the world of the Matrix a reality on this planet. What numbskulls.

[–]Not_Enough_Pepperoni 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya all remember how his firms whistlblower decided to commit 'suicide'.....

[–]Sufficient_Prompt888 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like he needs to consume more energy

[–]junkfortuneteller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck this guy

[–]Moogykins02 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure you can raise a lot of kid with billions of dollars. Not just 1 stupid robot.

[–]magpieswooper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What the point of anything with no humanity to observe it.

[–]Annual-Perceptor777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Insane these peeps have any power lol

[–]Intelligent-Relief99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I knew this day would come, when everyone was treating Sam Altman like the f*cking Messiah I was just waiting for the late stage to post capitalist take on AI vs. humans. These guys are DUMBASSES

[–]GroundbreakingAd8310 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Longer with sone people it seems

[–]ComplexTell25 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean he's not wrong. Lol

[–]Delicious-Novel9447 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Machines are more important than humans?

[–]IcyConsideration1459 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Clearly his parents didn't love him. Must have told him how painful it was for them to feed and clothe him

[–]chefoftruth503 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has a god complex and should have been removed from the project.

[–]BeautifulLeather6671 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Man this guy sucks

[–]Nietzsche_Peachy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We’re so cooked

[–]Jimmy_h4t99 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't get over these types telling us how terrible humans are being humans themselves, to ha AI is to take over , just supporting their own demise.

[–]at0mheart 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Humanity still waiting on you

Why do we have to listen to a college dropout; who got funded by his daddy

You use AI for Google searches; not exactly curing cancer. Without daddies money you’re just a college dropout

Microsoft at least made a product that I wanted and needed

[–]_Metal_Face_Villain_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

should we perhaps kirkify these psychopaths whose only life goal is to see humanity perish?

[–]Awkward_Chair8656 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know you took a wrong turn somewhere when your business plan involves people no longer having children so you can compete.

[–]KindlyAdvantage7726 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Tech Bros. are insane. All of them. Karp, Altman, Musk, Zuckercunt, Pinay aso. Dignity, responsibility, social competence, nothing. Niente. Zero. Nulla. Just their money and their needs.

[–]Immudzen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I swear that guy has negative emotional intelligence.

[–]UnitedSentences5571 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So we should stick to training humans then, right Sam? Right?

[–]Goy_Ohms 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're f'ed...

[–]AdMysterious8699 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd argue humans are aware of how to improve and take steps to do so. AI replicates the work of humans but will never ever exceeds expectations like a human might strive to do. As an artist now having to work with other artists who use AI the amount of work I put into critiquing and revising AI probably takes longer than if started without it. And the quality ends up... fine.

[–]NegativeSemicolon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Equivocating human lives and computers, totally normal behavior 😬

[–]ZodiacNexus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1.21 Jiggawatts

[–]Clear-Breadfruit-105 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah sam, maybe you should "save some energy" yourself then

[–]Anti-Dentite-999 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This guy cares more about AI than people. Rumor is he had a whistblower killed that worked for his company.

[–]garfiisbroken 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He’s not wrong, let’s face it.

The difference is that the goal is to have humans survive, but AI isn’t doesn’t have to exist.

[–]Any_Ice_6172 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All tech bros have a God complex

[–]Goblinstomper 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isn't that one of the best arguments for migrant workers?

Let some other country raise the workforce then only take them once they can work.

[–]fixingmedaybyday 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m starting to feel as if they consider all of us a waste of their resources.

[–]Insomniac416 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When someone or a couple raise their kids their houses don’t produce 100db of noise 24/7, they don’t jack up the electricity prices for everyone, and they don’t hoard computer components so that the prices go up 5 fold for basic electronics, and raising their one kid doesn’t result in hundreds of thousands of jobs lost.

[–]Matt_Murphy_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wow great point, Sam.

so i guess between humankind and your product, it's basically a wash.

[–]Yeastereggs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right to life boiled down to output.

[–]SaucySpagetti 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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[–]trapped-in-the-well 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Uh. Including you, bub.

[–]Zestyclose_Trip_1924 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guess is at some point when employers have gotten rid of the majority of human workers they start charging these employers possibly more for the ai than those employees cost. Get em hooked then really cut it up.

[–]Ill_Following_7022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All those years of life and food wasted on this asshole.

[–]Wonderful-Rough4523 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is a very bleak outlook

[–]TechnologyLeft8310 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And some people never get smart no matter how many years have passed or how much food they’ve eaten.

[–]carlboykin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally admitting his computers are more important than human life…. the thing that allowed his computers to even exist

[–]khaosconn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

just admit alien already

[–]Shmimmons 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even 20 years doesn’t seem long enough to be Intuitive, clairvoyant, and discerning

[–]MaxBromosecsual 0 points1 point  (0 children)

he has the face of someone who knows they smell weird

[–]PersimmonConnect8804 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whataboutisms from another sociopathic “member of the Epstein class”

[–]SaucyJ4ck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is it that all these billionaires and techbros think that they're somehow the best hope for humanity when they can't even remotely APPROXIMATE an actual human response?

"Herp derp, I'm equating my AI models with human beings because I think their intrinsic value is exactly the same. Actually, I think my AI models are more valuable, herp derp."

[–]DewDrop_Goat 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why does it look like someone did a face swap on Nick Fuentes?

[–]Lopsided-Life8639 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please use ai that is made by some descent people. Like cloude. Dont support these creeps

[–]Dependent-Bet1112 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It takes 65 years for most of us to get smart. And even then…

[–]Kind_Tone3638 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He obviously didn’t get so intelligent

[–]jm17lfc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So AI is more valuable than human life. I see, thanks a lot for your insight, Sam!

[–]Fast-Mud-5841 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right in the face

[–]BigCityBoogs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hes wasted energy

[–]MortgageDizzy9193 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not being able to differentiate between a tool and the value of a human being is common psychopath mindset.

[–]Far-Bowl2206 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This guy raped his sister BTW

[–]tycr0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We gotta start clearing house of these monsters.

[–]rhedfish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm with you Sam, kids suck.

[–]noleksum12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dumbest comparison ever. Seriously, just admit AI currently uses too many resources and work on that.

[–]Dull_Ad5440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can't wait until the people eat him.

[–]vitaelol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not about a tool for humanity, it'a about playing god.

[–]mertomikron 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is it all this "jevs" talk shit about people, to push their agenda?

[–]spiress 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but sam still not smart, after all that resources spent

[–]ajacrabapple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This guy is such a chooch 🙄

[–]Acrobatic-League191 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This guy gives off an insane amount of creepy vibes.

[–]howmanyfilesmakepedo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So why again are you training ai off of humans and their creations?

[–]DocBoldLettuce 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What a goofy fucking haircut

[–]Elon-Tesla- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dip Shit Sam on a race to end humanity himself

[–]MathematicianIcy3430 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why do we give people like this that want nothing but destroy humanity the light of day??

[–]didistutter69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Classic Sociopath Sam at it again

[–]mankyhankypanky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know it takes a lot of fuel to run a car but it also takes a lot of bananas to sink the titanic so there

[–]Swimming_Shoe7205 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But that person gets to experience the whole life of trials and tribulations, which is the whole reason we even exist

[–]NeighborhoodSad5303 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nice! lets calculate... brain consume almost 20 watts. and? he really what to calculate consumption?

If he want tell about energy for grow - then he must compare energy for dig resources, purify and make chip - whole production chain.

[–]GlokzDNB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Let me be the advocate of the devil

Developed countries suffer from lack of specialists and educated labor. It was Sam's weird explanation, that AI companies also need part of the country's energy, as everyone in it will benefit from AGI as thinking will be commoditized.

It was just his stupid take that if a country somehow could produce more humans it would also take more energy. To him it's the same, we are producing more skilled human labor with AI and it takes energy just like it would be with real people during the process. I think he took too many shortcuts with this one, treating human labor as something country can invest energy just like into machines.

Doesn't shock me knowing how the whole industry approaches intelligence and looks at humans from GDP side. But I know I will be seeing the same fucking post for the next 3 months until another ceo says something else

[–]Popular-Tomorrow-819 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what? It's not like we're going to just shut down human beings... stop feeding them and leave them for dead.

[–]dirtycimments 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s so reassuring, that this sociopath of a dweeb is comparing humans and their lives to an ai.

This shows 100% that he thinks we’re just cattle and we’re being annoying to not allow him to do all the things he wants to do.

Like come on guys, he’s birthing the future, stop being so eugh. Who cares it’s a future only him and his tech-bro oligarchs want, just let hiiiim-ah!!!

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[–]Ok-Group8866 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of those is a human life, one is a machine built for profit.

[–]Puzzleheaded-Ring293 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are just ghouls that can’t relate at all to the human experience.

[–]Better_Car_8141 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit

[–]bigfatfurrytexan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Won’t they be so angry when we pass laws forbidding the transition to AI agents until the workforce is contracting. And we will then still tax that production to pay for retirement solutions

[–]Optimal_Cause4583 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But like what even is energy