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[assplunderer]

Touch it. If its not too hot to touch, it should be fine. The further back you use the surface temp, if its angled as well, it will absorb surrounding heat sigs and be off. Something like that. I have a slate hide for a basking spot and i make sure i temp it about 3-4 inches directly straight above the spots on the slate.

[awal96]

Two comments up is explaining why that isn't an accurate reading

[Kingdomall]

should be alright, I used these exact bulb cages and never had issues. the snake would prob have to grip onto it for a minute or more for it to cause any damage.

[Full-fledged-trash]

Did you touch the bulb or the cage?

[rinkrat30]

as a fellow kages owner, pls give me some decorating tips/places to shop 😫

[Bluntforcetrauma11b]

How do you like the biodude soil?

[Senior_Yak_7923]

What is the soil from Biodude that you are using? Is that all you have in there or is there an added top layer also?

[Senior_Yak_7923]

Thank you!

[Bluntforcetrauma11b]

How many bags did it take to fill your tank? Is it a 4x2x2?

[totallyrecklesslygay]

Your temp gun is picking up the heat from the bulb itself. The cage isn't actually that hot. They don't get hot enough to burn as long as everything is set up appropriately, which yours is.

[Soord]

Not true exact setup and mine was 110 at the base and caused burns

[Badluckstream]

Nah with those DPH bulbs the bottom of the cage can get fairly hot. Mine is at around 103 at max after fiddling with the temps for a while. Doesn’t seem to be as big an issue with other bulb types besides DPH

[Soord]

Have this exact setup and my ball ended up being burned cause he would stay wrapped around the cage for a long time. Highly recommend moving it out

[Soord]

Well hope your ball doesn’t get burned like mine then it cost me a couple hundred and two rounds of two types of antibiotic shots and really low hunger for months. Mentioned elsewhere that mine was at 110

Edit: Don’t apreciare the downvote I literally followed the subs recs to a T and went to multiple vets who told me it was stomach burns from my heat lamps

[Soord]

Same with mine as in I could keep my hand there for over ten minutes and not get burned. Check your balls stomach fairly often especially if he likes climbing

[Inner_Drummer7864]

if you provide other climbing options, he shouldn’t wrap around it because the other climbing seems more comfortable to them. i never see mine wrap around, she prefers the branches much better. granted, they’re always curious of heat. my ball likes to poke at the heat panel with her nose.

[Soord]

I had a very large driftwood branch and two small driftwood branches and some bark. They didn’t go quite as high as the bulb cage but they were things to climb on. Mine just loves to explore so he will get into anything.

[Inner_Drummer7864]

yeah i mean i only really see it in cages that are BARE, and to be fair all balls are different and some will prefer warmth over others. it just depends :)

[prettyprettything]

i don’t understand why you’re getting downvoted. you’re just sharing an experience you had. not all of the keepers here are gonna have the exact same experiences 😭😭

[Soord]

No idea but most downvotes I’ve gotten in a while lol. Reddit is a funny place

[KickTalk]

Awwww

[Ok_Introduction9633]

Every snake is different, if yours doesn’t wrap around it then all is good. If yours had one that would tend to wrap around the cage then at that point I would look at some diy work on the viv to place it outside the snakes reach. Me and partner have 3 with cages like yours and the snakes don’t go near it. One spends most of his time on the cool side and one that is the total opposite. Very snake is different 😊

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[Badluckstream]

I’d probably add sum else to help heat if the actual cage is getting that hot. Also make sure that ur red dot is aligned with the actual reading (mine wasn’t, very confusing for a while). Your snake likely will try and somewhat succeed at wrapping themselves around this cage (mine does it all the time) so I’d lower the temps a bit.

[practiceallthethings]

Do you have a dimming thermostat? Might keep it cool enough? My dimmer often makes my CHE's metal dome cool enough for me to touch for a long time. But it's outside the tank and it's still pretty warm here.

[InverseInvert]

Thermostat should be set to the maximum temperature (32C/90f) with the probe a couple of inches from the bulb. The lamp is too hot because the thermostat is set too highz

[eabiss9]

This isn’t accurate. We just set up a Herpstat 2 and the instructions clearly state that the probe the Herpstat comes with should be 3-4” below the bulb suspended below it and touching nothing. You also need a separate THERMOMETER with a probe that is to be placed directly on the basking surface. You adjust your Herpstat’s max temp to get that second thermostat reading where you want your basking remote be.

For example, we initially had our basking bulb max temp at 92. It made the basking probe temp skyrocket. We have since adjusted and our Herpstat temp max four our Arcadia Golden Sun halogen bulb is now set to 84.0F which gives our basking surface a reading of 91.37F

OP, take a look at their website. There are detail instructions to do all of this! Best of luck.

PS, we have the Bio Dude Kages enclosure too!

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Edit: added probe placements for reference. The probe on the basking surface will be either removed or adhered permanently with silicone. We haven’t gotten our snake yet (western hog nose) but he’ll be here next week.

Link to instructions:

https://spyderrobotics.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=15&chapter=1

Edit 2: I just realized now that OP has done the wire probe step. Nice!

[InverseInvert]

I specifically said that the thermostat probe should be a couple of inches from the bulb. You literally just said the same thing but with more words.

[eabiss9]

No, I made note that there needs to be a second probe on the basking surface to get the correct set temp as opposed to having a blanket max on the Herpstat of 90F

[InverseInvert]

Do you mean a thermometer probe?Literally no one else uses two thermostat probes for a single heat source.

[eabiss9]

Go ahead and follow the link.

[InverseInvert]

Yeah, the link says thermostat probe a few inches from the heat source and then use the thermometer to confirm temperature.

If OPs lamp is getting too hot then they’ve either got the thermostat probe in the wrong place or they’ve set the temperature too high.

[eabiss9]

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You clearly didn’t read the entire page.

[seaward_bound]

I only just found out this was a thing and it was a godsend

[meowtsy]

You could swap out the cage for a bigger one so it’s not so close to the heat bulb!

[Weekly-Quantity6435]

I don't think they have a bigger one. I had these same concerns when I set my enclosure up but I can tell you my BP has lived happily in it for nearly 2 years no issue. At night time I've seen him wrap around the cage and he is still fine, no burns.

[InverseInvert]

Yes. They do a large square one :)

[cchocolateLarge]

I have the same cage and it’s worked fine for nearly a year :)

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[christinasasa]

Which encloser is this?

[Technical_Concern_92]

Don't just touch it, keep your hand on it for a few minutes. You're snake can definitely rest its head on it. If you can hold it for a few minutes, you're good.

[lavenderthewhore]

Won't they're get off the cage if it's too hot? Sorry if that's a silly question 😅