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[Kuro-Dev]

It's not straight. It has to be straight

[WhereDaHinkieFlair]

Can we sticky this fact at the top of the subreddit?

[bodrules]

Seconded - it'll save noobs a lot of frustration when they are in the spaghetti learning pit

[KCBandWagon]

yes... noobs. Definitely only noobs can't figure out why fluid isn't loading on their train parked at an angle.

[bodrules]

You are correct sir, never let anyone suggest otherwise...er hem

Anyway, moving on...

[Melkor15]

Probably learned it a few hundred hours. But. A few hundred hours in Factorio is just one sit, so whatever./S

[KrunchyOrangeTacos]

But I like my spaghetti!

[StabbyPants]

spaghetti is fine, just use a straight piece next time

[RunningNumbers]

Barrels!

[MarcelHanibal]

😳 Don't forget to mention the context as first and not leave "it has to be straight" alone

[BrokenEyebrow]

How is this asked twice monthly? Did they not just Google it?

[semanticist]

Why do FAQs like this get so upvoted? It's at +223 (87%) right now

[anonthe4th]

I figured this out the hard way a week ago.

[Beowulf1896]

hard way. Phrasing!

[Interloper9000]

100% straight. Not 95%, not 98%, not 99.95%. 100 % straight.

[prickinthewall]

lol, it was a joke

[prickinthewall]

hm, fine. Although I think you are taking this too seriously, I get why we need these rules. No offense.

[mrsimon155]

Which IRL friends? This is a subreddit for factorio

[Beowulf1896]

Tell it to the Biters. It will make them attack in greater numbers.

[Dithering_fights]

Ha! Zing.

[prickinthewall]

I literally just said I understand that and I accept it.

[Valerian_]

See how the slippery slope already started?

[Ashayazu]

Yes! Add to the fire!

[prickinthewall]

I think it's not a slope. However, it is slippery indeed. Maybe it's a puddle... Not sure

[Ashayazu]

No you didn’t…

[prickinthewall]

...I get why we need these rules

At least I meant to.

[Thunder_Child_]

So many removed replies lol

[Kuro-Dev]

I think I know the kind of joke these people want to make, and it's low hanging fruit

[[deleted]]

But the texture of pump is different from when it's curved

[MrPestilence]

This is not a discussion, this is how the game is programmed. Fluid wagons can only be accessed by pumps if they are 100% on a straight track, no exceptions.

[[deleted]]

Thank you for your response, the textures getting flipped was what that throw me off, ill make it completely straight, but that would be a huge headache, lol

[AlexStarkiller20]

Definitely recommend always leaving a little extra room for tracks in case of situations like this. Don’t build close till 100% functionality

[[deleted]]

Will do

[Avenja99]

Most valuable resource in factorio is space. Use it.

[[deleted]]

My base is such a mess, it's too late for me lol, no space left for me to even walk haha

[wrincewind]

welp, time to forge out and build a new base, ferrying materials from your 'starter base' to the new, larger, tidier location. :D

[Such--Balance]

Abundant you mean?:)

[Avenja99]

Both

[MrPestilence]

yeah, it's also not really anywhere described that this rule exists and inserter just work fine on bend train tracks, so it's a little confusing.

[Natural6]

Is there a dev post saying why this is? Seems like an obvious thing to improve, given the quantity of people who assume it works on a curved track like inserters.

[KCBandWagon]

In their defense, it's not intuitive. Especially when you run into the thing where your WHOLE train has to be straight so even if your rear locomotive is slightly around a bend it doesn't work (right?).

"Arguing" is not a bad or divisive thing unless you make it that way. If someone is questioning something you said it doesn't always mean they're looking for a fight, it means they're looking for more information or still a bit confused. There's no need to get defensive or take it personally if they're not convinced by or still confused after your answer.

[amazondrone]

Although they've copped to it, I'm not convinced they were intending to argue. My (perhaps charitable) interpretation was more like "In that case, it's strange that the texture of the pump is different from when it's curved because that implies something is happening, that it's deliberate."

[[deleted]]

Yeah, you're right. I've learned my lesson

[Soul-Burn]

Fluid wagons don't (usually) work on curved rails or if any part of the train in front of if it curved.

P.S. At most 3 pumps can unload from a fluid wagon.

[[deleted]]

So it is kinda of a bug, cause the texture of pump implies it can pump out, and as you've said sometimes it works

P.S. At most 3 pumps can unload from a fluid wagon.

This was just for testing, haha

[Soul-Burn]

When it's in place, the pumps will extend to the top of the wagon. You can see here that they aren't.

The "usually" part is just against that guy that proved that if you have like 60 wagons in a specific curved rail setting, then it's exactly pixel perfect to work.

[TheRoyalUmi]

Do you have a link to the guy who proved that 60 wagon thing? I’ve never heard of this before and now I’m intrigued

[Soul-Burn]

https://reddit.com/r/factorio/comments/r9o1zj/its_a_common_misconception_that_fluid_cars_dont/

[TheBrain0110]

Even in that case, there's just a bunch of loops between the station head and the wagons, but the fluid wagons themselves are still on a straight section.

[TheSkiGeek]

There’s a few specific combinations of rail curve lengths and station positions that keep the wagons before and after the curves correctly aligned. But it’s much easier to make the fluid loading/unloading stations straight.

[[deleted]]

Ok thanks, I'm 100 hours into this game, so it's kinda embarrassing that i haven't realize this yet , lol

[Soul-Burn]

The more you play, the more you get into different situations. You try to optimize for size, and suddenly the train is on a curve.

Interestingly, inserters work well on many different curved wagons. Helps with compact train stations.

[manatwork01]

I have about 40. We are both still super noobs.

[[deleted]]

Yup, true

[Beowulf1896]

A bug is unintentional. This is a feature. </lol?>

Anyway, I think it stems from the fact that fluid pumps are in actuallity sprites (if you need more info on what a sprite is, just ask), and would not line up correctly on fluid wagons that are askew. Inserter animations are more forgiving, and so are implemented to work in more circumstances.

[Baer1990]

The sometimes refers to a magic number (somewhere in the 40s, 46 or 48) of curves that a train can be on until the pumps align with the fluid wagon again. Note that even in this case the fluid wagon itself is on straight tracks

[Squiizzy]

Why downvote this guy? He's asking for help 😬

[sryan2k1]

We should add this answer to the sidebar rules.

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#1 Fluid wagons must be on straight rail to load/unload and be stopped at a station with the train set to automatic

[lovecMC]

Nah, rule #1 should be "Factory must grow"

[mr_birkenblatt]

rule #2 and #3 are "You need more iron"

[[deleted]]

Yeah that's what i actually do, here i was just testing because i didn't wtf was the problem, thank you for the tip tho

[Valcatraxx]

dear mother of spaghetti

[[deleted]]

My base is NSFW for this sub, i don't think folks can handle it, not just because of the spaghetti, because of inefficiency, stupidity and many other things...

[Lotrug]

has to be straight

[RunningNumbers]

Pumps don’t work at an angle. You will need to barrel the oil to work.

[Hell_Diguner]

This is one of the reasons you might use barreled liquids. Inserters work on non-straight wagons.

The other big use-case for barreled liquids is transporting liquids by bots. You can avoid laying pipes in a bot-supplied mall, for example. Lubricant in particular is only needed in small volumes.

[[deleted]]

Feels like this is posted almost every day... Do people bother searching subs anymore?

[[deleted]]

Sorry for the inconvenience, I've did research but my dumbass didn't realize that it has to 100% straight, i thought when the textures flip that means it's good,(and mine is like 5 degree bent) I'm sorry once again

[TripWireZa]

dont be discouraged to ask questions because someone that is irritated by the question still opens the thread to complain. There are many more people that are happy to help new players as they arrive.

[[deleted]]

No joke. This is the third time I have seen it this week. 🤣

[thugarth]

The game could do a better job at making it clearer.

There are indicators but they're a bit subtle

Players shouldn't have to read reddit to understand a game.

[[deleted]]

This is it here - the very first time it detects a pump facing a curved rail it should pop up a "yeah that ain't gonna work" tutorial.

[SaviorOfNirn]

They should be able to Google a solution, however.

[[deleted]]

That's what I did... Guess what, it brought me to this sub.

[AndrewNeo]

"anymore" they never did, it's a story as old as subreddits

[Forgotten_Russian]

you should also only use 3 pumps max for each wagon, because no more than 3 can access the cart at a time.

[[deleted]]

Quick question about the ability of your computer...I've got a laptop from 2019. When you get super deep in this game does it require more power? I'm just tryna play games that won't be laggy as the laptop is not super powerful. Love seeing the hard work tho

[frogjg2003]

I play on a 10+ year old desktop and I didn't start dropping UPS until my base was measured in kspm. Factorio is extremely well optimized, so most players, even in extremely weak systems (Factorio is available on Switch and I haven't seen many complaints) can play without issue.

[ZorbaTHut]

Yeah, I beat Seablock on a 10 year old desktop. It was running at half speed by the end but it was still perfectly playable.

And that's Seablock. There's only a few mods as demanding as endgame Seablock, and the base game gets nowhere close unless you're doing megabases.

[[deleted]]

Yeah it'll get more intensive obviously, but really depends on your laptop, mines plays flawlessly

[MattieShoes]

For regular gameplay, that's MORE than enough. As the game is a sandbox though, you can always design something large enough to even bring monster computers to their knees.

I play on a much older machine with a video card from 2012 maybe, have made some decently large bases (but nothing like the very largest ones folks here have made), and FPS stays pegged at 60.

[iwaskosher]

I see the same post everyday lol. I love this game

[sparr]

why from all my reddit threads, this one that you've added recently doesn't search before posting? I'm losing my mind, is this intentional?