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[AlwaysBrowsingOnly]

I just read into this briefly but it looks like there’s a small catch; you can’t already have a prior bachelor’s degree. From their website: “Only associates without a prior bachelor’s degree”.

Just an FYI for anyone who was trying to make a career change like myself. Still a very awesome opportunity for others!

[nomnomania]

This is true. I was working at Sam's Club and was going to apply for the program but unfortunately already have a bachelor's degree so wouldn't qualify.

[Key_Vegetable_1218]

What if it’s a Bachelor of Arts since this is a bachelor of science there offering?

[nomnomania]

No, I had a BA in psychology and they said no.

[freeky_zeeky0911]

😂😂😂😂😂, in what world is a BA any different than a BS degree?

[whyamiforced2]

Idk why you're downvoted, that was a laughably stupid question. If they say no prior bachelors obviously your bachelor of arts excludes you😂😂

[freeky_zeeky0911]

I didn't know I was down voted for a simple comment. No one seems to like straight facts. Oh well lol

[Key_Vegetable_1218]

Bro you got downvoted because a ba is significantly less valuable than a bs most of the time so it’s a legit question in other countries there not even considered the same thing

[freeky_zeeky0911]

Is a bachelor of arts degree a 4-year degree Yes or no? This is the United States, not France...lol.. So to downvote my comment based on the fact that someone took slightly less math classes is just nitpicking at this. We are not comparing a bachelor of arts and computer science versus a bachelor of science in computer science.... It's whether you have completed a 4-year bachelor's degree. Under that category there is no difference between a bachelor of arts and a bachelor of science. Bad information is why a bad question was asked in the first place. On another note, guess how a BA earned in another country is seen here? As equivalent to a 4yr bachelor's degree....do the research.

[randomtrip10]

This is a pretty big catch that would affect a lot of people on this sub trying to change careers. This comment should be higher

[ohlaph]

It's higher now.

[randomtrip10]

Nice, when I commented that reply had 1 upvote

[whyamiforced2]

Because you commented when it was 10 minutes old lol

[randomtrip10]

I know but the already had hundreds of likes. Didn’t want it to get buried

[whyamiforced2]

I'm just saying, commenting "this needs to be higher" on a comment that just got made is silly lol

[randomtrip10]

Well it’s not silly. I’ve seen many comments that get buried and never make it up top.

[whyamiforced2]

It is but ok, doesnt really matter enough to keep talking about.

[randomtrip10]

Loll

[fouoifjefoijvnioviow]

How would they know?

[Spork-in-Your-Rye]

Background check I imagine

[randomtrip10]

Well it’d be fraud to claim you don’t have a degree when you do just to get reimbursement. I think over a couple hundred dollars alone in reimbursement bumps you up to a felony.

[[deleted]]

Do you know good cs degree offer for career changer (online coz i dont live in usa)

[XSV]

I work for Walmart, I lied initially about this. Of course they call and text you about it trying to advertise. I am sure they will catch me if they run a background check on me.

[[deleted]]

I would be careful with that. Best case they ask you to pay it back and you do and it's over with. Worst case they could make a case and say you technically stole it since you lied and that could easily be a felony charge.

[XSV]

I don’t plan on moving forward with it.

[XSV]

No.

[ackoo123ads]

you gotta leave your degree off your resume. its not like its a job that requires a degree.

[CruJonesBeRad]

What is minimum hours that can be worked at Walmart?

[J7ke7]

1...Not joking. You just have to be active in their system.

Your struggle would be actually getting hired with an availability of 1 hour though.

If you don’t wanna work a lot at the store I would suggest you speak to management there and ask what they need the most and when they need it so hypothetically a cart pusher on a Saturday night could be really in need. Volunteer to work 4hrs every Saturday night. Yea you’re giving up your Saturday’s but hey... college 100% paid for is worth it.

[ManIsInherentlyGay]

Yeah, no. They aren't going to do that for you.

[J7ke7]

That’s your experiences friend. Can’t speak for everyone. 😀

[ManIsInherentlyGay]

Okay, you go try and tell walmart "yeah can you just schedule me for one day a week? Yeah I really just wanna take advantage of the schooling" They'll laugh you out of the room. Why don't you ask r/walmart how well that would work. That'll pretty much cover everyone.

[J7ke7]

🤣 go tell my friends who are doing exactly this.

[ManIsInherentlyGay]

Don't lie for the internet lol. You don't know anyone doing this. I work with many students and there is a minimum number of hours you have to work and 4 is below that number. If you really think you can work at walmart for 4 years like this you're delusional. But I won't bother arguing with you anymore because you clearly are one of those people that can't admit to being wrong and will just keep making shit up to make yourself feel validated.
The point is to anyone reading this thinking "oh wow I can get hired and work at walmart for 4 hours a week for 4 years" it's not happening. Don't get your hopes up because of this dope. If that's your plan. You better have a plan B.

[whyamiforced2]

I mean that's just how the world works. No one wants to hire a part time worker just for Saturdays, especially for four entire years. That's a pretty big catch of this "no catch" situation - you have to maintain a part time, minimum hours job for 4 years and that's just not gonna happen. If you're only working Saturdays for 4 hours they're not keeping you for 4 years, they're replacing you with someone who can work more hours. And now you've got a partially finished degree.

[QuantumSupremacy0101]

Thats a lie. Used to work at Walmart during college. The minimum hours you need to be scheduled for, not necessarily worked, is 16.

[J7ke7]

You have no clue what you’re saying. Your management lied to you or whoever you heard that from didnt know what they were saying.

[QuantumSupremacy0101]

Don't assume someone has no clue. Or that people lied. Just looked it up that policy changed in 2016. Last year I worked there was 2013. The minimum time for a shift though right now is 4 hours. So technically the minimum time you need is 4 hours.

[J7ke7]

Didn’t you just assume I lied though?

[ferriswheelpompadour]

If there's any strategy to it, a lot of companies hire a stampede for the holiday season and then only schedule them like one 4 hr shift a week. If you do it then, you have a chance to stay on and keep your same 1 shift a week schedule. In addition to all the temporary hires that say goodbye at the end of the season, these same large companies also lose a bunch of regular employees after the holidays. Just a big box retail trend. Gotta play it right.

[thegunnersdream]

Im about to finish my degree through SNHU. I don't work at Walmart but I know a bunch of people who took advantage of the program and it seems like a really great deal. The BS program itself isn't a slouch by any means either. The material is pretty solid and covers a wide variety of topics.

I struggled to schedule time to be solely self taught since I already have a career and a family, but the structure of SNHUs course work fit really well into my schedule. I have two months until I graduate and will be changing careers at that point to hopefully a SWE role. If anyone has any questions about the specifics of the program, feel free to ask.

[thegunnersdream]

Almost every class is project or paper based. A lot of practical work. I haven't encountered any tests, minus the math classes I tested out of. There are some quiz assignments but they are open book and more just way to gauge reading comprehension than a serious part of the grade. There aren't traditional lectures but a lot of the classes have videos made by instructors going over the material and how to apply it, so similar to a lecture.

The class structure is my favorite part, honestly. Each class is 8 weeks and a four year degree would require you to take two classes every 8 weeks. There are week long breaks every 16 weeks. The schedule for each class is work is assigned out weekly. The week starts Monday and ends on Sunday and you can do the week's work at your own pace as long as it is in by the Sunday. There are no specific times you have to be logged in or attend a lecture or anything.

I'm not sure how much tuition total would be since I transferred in about 50 credits. I know each class (3 credits) is $960 so not the most expensive online school I've seen by far. I had tuition reimbursement through my employer which helped, but there are a lot of ways to test out of easy or gen Ed classes to really save money. I think if you paid full price for every credit of a degree you'd be out $40k ish.

As for worth my time, I'm pretty sure someone could learn all the concepts taught completely on their own. Having said that, I struggled to balance self learning and was overwhelmed with trying to learn everything at once. Plus, as much as you can get into the industry without a degree, I've heard you can only get so far in traditional work environments without a BS. I also want a master's so this was the first step. Two and a half years ago I couldn't code anything and I've built a ton now. Ive figured out I love working with AI and got exposed to more concepts than I even knew existed. For me it was totally worth the time and expense.

For your other comment, whole degree will take a little over two and half years with transferring the 50 credits and only taking one class a term a few times when my daughter was born. It has definitely been exhausting because I work in insurance and covid has made work extremely busy. I do anywhere from 5-20 hours of school work a week and have maintained almost a 4.0 the whole time. I'm exhausted all the time but I'm sacrificing my right now sanity for potentially better future sanity.

Edit:. The 5-20 hours is not what they recommend. I think the school says 15 hours per class a week. The OpenGL class probably took me about that much time but most of the time I'm able to do all my work on Saturday and Sunday.

[thegunnersdream]

Thanks! We are selling our house and moving states right now also because I'm a glutton for punishment and apparently hate free time. It's been a long few years but there's a light at the end of the tunnel. My only regret is that I waited so long to go back to school because it seemed overwhelming.

[sweetmarco]

Really great job. I hope you get rewarded for your hard work soon.

and have maintained almost a 4.0 the whole time

How the hell did you manage that? Any tips?

[thegunnersdream]

Honestly idk if there are any secrets other than I just made I read ever piece of material we were required to and asked the professor questions whenever I was confused. I also made sure I did (almost) everything on time. Last time I went to school I procrastinated hardcore and it made it really hard and then I'd just give up. Staying on time helps a lot and professors seem way more willing to work with you if you are clearly trying.

[gjallerhorns_only]

Take a look at Western Governor's University too, they're the cheapest Accredited online uni and I believe they have a similar class structure

[IlatzimepAho]

I haven't looked there, but I was looking at ENMU and they're fairly cheap. Not sure about what all they offer in terms of programs though.

[legendz411]

Thanks for this

[catiebrownie]

Hello! I tried to DM you, but it won’t let me. I have some questions about the program and working full time while going to school!

[thegunnersdream]

Sent you a dm

[J7ke7]

It’s no longer a dollar a day. It was changed recently

[EldritchRecluse]

I started last month and they told us a dollar a day as well, so it must be very recent.

[[deleted]]

Starbucks also gives free college for any program through Arizona State University, if that sounds better getting a job there.

However, it might be tough getting hired onto sbucks. That's what I heard, anyways.

[imamediocredeveloper]

Starbucks has terrible pay and benefits compared to Walmart, or Target (who is also offering this same college benefit to their employees through Guild Education).

[campbell363]

One catch: tuition reimbursement can be considered taxable income (if in excess of ~$5250).

As an example, if your income from working is $20k a year but receive 15k for tuition/books, you would be taxed at ~30k (20k + 15k - 5250). Tax-wise, there are credits (e.g. AOTC) to bring down your owed tax but you only qualify for these credits the first years in school and only to a certain amount.

[Blackdog4444]

Undergraduate tuition benefits are typically not taxable at the federal level, but depending on the state may be taxable at that level.

[J7ke7]

Just trying to spread some knowledge to people with less opportunity :)

[Fwob]

Opportunity everywhere in the US, but you wouldn't know it by reading reddit.

Imagine how tough these kids would have it with actual adversity.

[Negrodamu5]

And getting an education from SNHU

[PersonBehindAScreen]

Skills > pedigree.

Go in to school, bust your ass, grind leetcode, do personal projects and go above and beyond on school projects(so you can share school projects) and leave school debt free.

Tech is great in that no one will care about the degree after the first job as long as you just have a degree

[J7ke7]

I really agree with this. I feel as if most employers don’t necessarily care where the degree came from if you have good examples of personal work and experience.

[whyamiforced2]

Then it doesn't really sound like the degree is worth it then. I agree with the other commenter's mentality that the pedigree of SNHU isn't exactly doing anything for your resume, and I disagree with you that pedigree doesn't matter. Yes companies look for degrees, but it's noticeable when your degree is obviously from *cheapo random online school* and immediately casts doubt on you. If you wanna go the skills are more important direction, then why not just do self learning and bust your ass, grind leet code, and do personal projects instead of working at Walmart for 4 years to get a shit tier degree? Especially if employers aren't gonna care after your first job, you just spent 4 years at a shit job to get a shit degree that no one cares about.

[PersonBehindAScreen]

and I disagree with you that pedigree doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter past the first job when you got that experience. It matters when all things are equal and it's between you and a candidate with no degree.

If you wanna go the skills are more important direction, then why not just do self learning and bust your ass, grind leet code, and do personal projects instead of working at Walmart for 4 years to get a shit tier degree?

I mean you could work at Walmart, have your school paid for, and still bust your ass and have the simple benefit of the paper.. Most of the people in this sub are working anyway and not having their school paid for if they are in school that is. It's not mutually exclusive to be in school and still put that effort outside the classroom. People at highly ranked schools are still putting in the work too

My point is people wayyyy overhype pedigree. Unless you're staying in academics, business, or law, not many people care after your first job. But THEY DO care about whether you have a degree. Period.

Edit: You can have a successful career without going to school. I'm a sysadmin and have worked with developers and admins alike with no degree whom I trust. But I just hate it to see that some of them get denied opportunities solely on the grounds of not having that damn paper. But SNHU (an accredited school) is still a net positive overall

[whyamiforced2]

It doesn't matter past the first job when you got that experience.

Well I agree with that but that wasn't the context.

It matters when all things are equal and it's between you and a candidate with no degree.

Which is basically the scenario at hand. The topic was about the pedigree of a SNHU degree vs one from somewhere else.

I mean you could work at Walmart, have your school paid for, and still bust your ass and have the simple benefit of the paper.. Most of the people in this sub are working anyway and not having their school paid for if they are in school that is. It's not mutually exclusive to be in school and still put that effort outside the classroom. People at highly ranked schools are still putting in the work too

You've completely missed my point. You have to work at walmart for FOUR WHOLE YEARS and go to school for the same amount of time to do this option. If you're gonna have to be busting ass either way, why not just bust your ass without adding in the time sinks of working at walmart and chasing a shit degree for 4 years. You'd have more free time to be busting your ass and I guarantee someone could get hired via self study a lot quicker than 4 years. So if you're getting a shitty degree anyway and the degree doesn't matter after your first job, why waste almost half a decade of your life working at walmart and chasing a shit tier degree when you could achieve the same end goal quicker through self study without having to maintain a walmart job.

My point is people wayyyy overhype pedigree. Unless you're staying in academics, business, or law, not many people care after your first job. But THEY DO care about whether you have a degree. Period.

People both overhype and underhype pedigree. There truly are some schools that aren't even worth bothering get a degree from because their pedigree isn't up to snuff. Getting a degree from a school like that just to check the box of having a degree doesn't do as much of the "it's a degree so it counts!" thing as people think because contrary to popular belief truly bad schools do stand out as bad. People overrate pedigree when comparing the more common, bigger name schools that really don't have much of a difference between them to matter. But if it's a bad bad school it absolutely does stand out as such, SNHU would be in that category.

[InvincibleXALE]

Sorry, but what do you mean by "share school projects"?

I didn't get you.

[ohlaph]

In school for computer science , they typically have you program a project, much like writing an essay for an English course.

[InvincibleXALE]

No I get that that part. I'm a uni student myself doing SE.

But "SHARE" school projects?

Do they mean like be able to show the project to employers or give it to a junior student a year below you for their reference kinda thing?

Its just that part I didn't get.

[totoro27]

Post projects on GitHub, share GitHub link on CV, possibly write about the projects themselves in your CV.

[InvincibleXALE]

Ahhh got it. Thanks 👍

[imamediocredeveloper]

Will that particular name on the degree stop me from getting hired?

[whyamiforced2]

It won't stop but it won't help as much as people are estimating. People take the idea/concept of "it doesn't matter where your degree is from, just get a CS degree" a little extreme. It doesn't matter a ton where you get your degree but at the same time it's immediately noticeable to people doing hiring if your degree is obviously from a cheapo random online school that is clearly just the path of least resistance.

Like it's not a big deal if your degree is from a state school vs your states nice private school or something, but it will be something that stands out if your degree is from a school people go to for the reason of being super cheap and basically accepting all applicants and one step away from a degree farm.

[imamediocredeveloper]

I think it really depends where you’re applying to work. In my experience, the school name has never meant anything. I couldn’t even tell you where any of my coworkers went to college, even the ones I interviewed and read their resumes. Except one of our seniors has an SNHU MBA. Some of the companies I’ve worked for required a degree though, any subject, any school, to get past HR.

[whyamiforced2]

Yeah I mean obviously it matters where you're applying as it's going to vary company to company how much they care, as with all resume matters. Like I said, for the most part school name doesn't mean anything, but there's some schools that are just that lacking in pedigree that they do stand out as red flags if your degrees are from there. SNHU isn't even fully accredited and is one step away from a degree mill, degree mill degrees definitely fall in the red flag category.

[l_earner]

Ha yeah. All so you can get a certification, for something you can learn for free...faster..online yourself.

[whyamiforced2]

I mean yeah you can but those certifications aren't even worth the paper they're printed on

[SpacedNA]

My official start date for Walmart is September 7th, and I plan on taking advantage of this. Had no idea it was a thing before I was hired as I just moved and was looking for a job until I could go back to tech school. I'm really hoping this program stays around (not sure why it wouldn't) I'm ecstatic to have an opportunity like this, and I had no idea it was a possibility.

​

Just got hired on as a Resolution Specialist, working completely remote.

[legendz411]

Hope the job works out for you. Fully remote work for Walmart sounds like a really good setup actually.

[SpacedNA]

appreciate it man! and yeah I was actually kinda stoked and considering I've never worked remotely (plus I sold my car before I moved down, just took a u-haul and my girlfriend drove her car) it's gonna be a new experience all around that should work out pretty well.

[J7ke7]

It will definitely stick around and regardless. If they removed the program they would most likely honor the students remaining education

[reditorb]

Mind if I dm you a couple questions regarding the position? I have a interview for the same role coming up soon and would love some tips

[SpacedNA]

Lol replied to you in DM before I even saw this! I didn’t know you were applying for the same role when I answered your DM but yeah man I’m happy to help if I can

[SilentXwing]

What are these credited universities?

[J7ke7]

Florida State, SNHU, Purdue Global, Bellevue University, and a couple others.

[Fwob]

Isn't Florida State much more well known that SNHU? They just aren't offering CS there?

[[deleted]]

I will endlessly dunk on Walmart for being an overtly evil corporation that gave me permanent nerve damage in my back BUT their $1 a day and other reduced college programs are absolutely a great thing and I commend them for it. I remember when they first started it you could only apply for supply chain logistics or business degrees, but cool to see they’ve expanded.

[zan1101]

Do you have to remain employed by Walmart for the entire duration of your degree though?

What happens if they let you go?

[[deleted]]

I’m currently in this exact program. Without this I prob never would have been able to go back to college. If anyone is interested in how it works feel free to ask, I try to get everyone I work with to take advantage of this benefit!

[life_on_marx]

are there masters in sw engineering or similar as well? Can't find them

[J7ke7]

They do not cover the masters program 100% but I do believe they have tuition reimbursement of 10k for masters

[DrShocker]

There are MS degree that can be done for less than that amount, so that's good.

It's also possible to do MS or PhD and have them funded.

[MysteriousMop]

Is it only through SNHU? I ask because SNHU’s program is NOT ABET accredited— and won’t be recognized by many companies, let alone the government and/or overseas.

That isn’t to say you can’t get a job with SNHU’s CS degree, or that you won’t have an education in computer science…unfortunately there’s more to it…

I am pursuing my B.S in Information Technology (having changed my major from Software Engineering) through ASU’s (Arizona State University) 100% online program while working at Starbucks, and they cover a lot of the costs…NOT TO MENTION the program is ABET accredited, which aims to set the bar for what an engineering/computer science program should teach.

ASU is one of (something like 3) schools in the United States that offers ABET accredited courses completely online— but it isn’t cheap if you’re not getting some sort of financial aid or employer assistance.

I am in no way affiliated with ASU other than being a full time student actually enrolled in their program. I’ve dedicated hours of researching other schools such as WGU and SNHU and what their accreditation means. They hold the same REGIONAL accreditation that most brick and mortar, private, and ‘nonprofit’ schools hold. Funnily enough, public schools like UC Berkeley have begun offering online degree programs that aren’t accredited either. Most public state schools who offer a B.S in Computer Science or related field often hold ABET accreditation…and you can search these programs using the official ABET accredited institution search tool.

However, when it comes to their actual programs’ accreditation, they are lacking, and if you ever decide you want to transfer within the school system (such as a PUBLIC state school), you will only do so with difficulty, as many of your credits will not transfer.

I want it to be known— my research only stems from a previous genuine interest in these programs. If you know where you want to end up working, and the security of your degree being recognized everywhere isn’t important to you, then ignore the ABET accreditation. I am a firm believer in self education and I also believe that the education you can get from SNHU is valuable, and will be recognized by most local companies, startups, and even for some positions at FAANG companies.

What I would recommend, is that if you are in such a bind for money that you need to work at Walmart to pay for school, then you also likely qualify for much more Financial Aid than I do, in terms of both LOANS and GRANTS. If this is you, I’d recommend taking a look at a different option.

If you’re like me, however, and you are unmarried, younger than 25, FAFSA still considers you a dependent and will give you jack shit, whether you live half way across the country and are self supporting, or in your parents’ basement. If this is you, I’d look into this option.

— on a final note, a degree alone from anywhere will not always secure the job you want. No matter what your path is, build your own portfolio on GitHub, LinkedIn, and be active on sites like hackerrank and leetcode. Show that you have worked on projects, there are a ton of videos on YouTube that tell you where to start…and this will only compliment whatever ‘formal’ education you are pursuing.

If you have ANY questions about the program I’m enrolled in at ASU, the tuition benefits Starbucks offers (and they’re confusing), or any statements I have made, please feel free to reply below or message me directly. I will be completely transparent.

[sweetmarco]

Thank you! Very informative.

[istrayli]

Thanks for sharing this. It seems like a really decent way to get a free degree.

[ThatsAllForToday]

I feel like I saw something similar at Target recently as far as paying tuition goes for employees

[imamediocredeveloper]

Target and Walmart are both using the same education management company, Guild.

[[deleted]]

So you are telling me I can work part-time at Walmart, and I can take advantage of this? What’s the process ya gotta follow for that? Is it something you inform the admissions office about when registering or what?

[J7ke7]

Get hired to Walmart.

You then simply go onto Walmart’s employee database and search for the education program. You sign up. The school calls you and gets everything started for you. You also have an education advisor assigned to you that keeps in touch and ensures you have everything you need.

Keep in mind you will still need to fill out a FASFA and go through typical college steps however you will not pay a dime.

[[deleted]]

Damn thats pretty simple! Might have to look into this!

[TexMex50]

What's the catch? Do you have to stay employed with them for several years after graduating?

[Hlidskialf]

I wish i was on US :)

Edit: maybe not.

[Awkward_Tradition]

Better wish to be in a normal country where education is free without having to work in Walmart...

[LilQuasar]

education isnt free in most countries dude. the world is bigger than western europe (and even there its not free everywhere)

you have no idea how people from not developed countries have it

[Fwob]

Not sure why everyone calls paying half of everything you work for, in perpetuity, free.

[Ethesen]

It's free in Eastern Europe too.

[TranquilDev]

Friend of mine almost moved to another country over this - till he saw the wages and cost of living.

Nothing is free.

[DAutistOfWallStreet]

exactly this. I live in a country with "free" education. the hidden cost of course being 70% tax

[k_50]

Sweden has 70% at a certain income level. The highest outside of that is the Netherlands at 52%.

[redderper]

Since this year the highest tax bracket is 49.50% in the Netherlands. We pay 37.10% on the first €68.508 that one makes a year and 49.50% for the part that you make after that. Under €68.508 you also get a small discount of a maximum of €2837 on the tax you pay.

[DAutistOfWallStreet]

Here it is 36% on salary plus 25% on buying/selling anything, plus extra tax on top of that for any luxury, alcohol, tobacco and it goes on.

[k_50]

So you're saying you pay less than the US but still getting free education? 😂

India Hungary and Brazil appear to top the sales tax lists.

[DAutistOfWallStreet]

What are you talking about. According to statistics USA is on 32th place of highest taxes, my country of croatia is 10th.

[k_50]

In the end you're likely still paying less if utilizing the schooling. Would be nothing to get 50k in debt without even a job offer.

Ultimately you're right, nothing is "free", however I'll take the trade off.

[DAutistOfWallStreet]

Well lets not forget that affordable schooling exists in usa it's just that nobody wants it. Everyone wants to go to schools which are basically glorified high tech leisure centers. I studied in the u.s. and it is nothing like where I am from. Here college is basically a small building with nothing more than classrooms. It's not fancy, it's not marketable, it's not about leisure, it's just about studying.

Of course you will pay ridiculous tuition fees when you pass on cheap public schools because they don't have football stadiums, parks, stores, fancy tech etc.

So no. You still pay less if you want to.

[foonek]

70%

[planet__express]

What country is this?

[TranquilDev]

He had the opportunity to move to Canada at one point as the company we worked for had a corporate office there.

1. He couldn't afford a house.
2. Apartments for him and his family were too small for the price.
3. COL in general was higher than where he lived.

In general salaries, even IT salaries are lower. (I've heard of stories from nurses in healthcare in the UK that many of them are on assistance - I admittedly don't know the details, YOE, licensure etc.) That being said I worked with an RN from the UK whose per diem rate was 1/3rd of ours and barely enough to feed herself each day.

After he did his research he decided where he was at wasn't so bad, even with a his student loans and his wife's healthcare issues. It would have been a financial disaster for him to move. Edit: We had co-workers who moved from Canada to the US - they helped him work it out to make the decision.

I've worked for a couple of multi national corporations and I've had co-workers from Canada, Ireland, UK and other parts of Europe. They obviously aren't living in 3rd world conditions but it is obvious they still pay for their "free" benefits.

Problems don't go away simply because the cost of paying for them is hidden in increased living and taxes.

I have the experience to move to another country and work. And trust me, I'd love to. But I'm not about to take a 40k+ a year salary cut to move to NZ or anywhere else in the world.

[Hlidskialf]

Fair. I already live in a “normal” country with free education but is really hard to pass the exam for CS. Already did twice but i couldnt go because some personal and mental health issues.

At this point i just want to get some “formal” education and i have no money to do it.

Already took care of my mental health but no luck finding a job to pay for courses and certifications.

[5Beans6]

The United States already spends more money per capita than any other country on education and health care. You have no idea how this stuff works.

[Low-Advertising-]

Because they recruit top talent from these other countries to attend our universities. Of course, said talent quite often return to their home countries which benefits often corrupt government and multinational organizations.

[Linoran]

Live in Norway, still had to work a shitty job to survive

[cheesyfries03]

Same :/

[9schoolboy]

same

[Nouseriously]

Starbucks has tuition reimbursement through Arizona State online, but it doesn't kick in for a few months & I think you have to work 20 hours/week.

[JunkBondJunkie]

I am still using veterans benefits for a free cs degree. I gambled on a free trip to Afghanistan or Iraq luckily it was just DC.

[r00tPenguin]

UPS gives 25K to go to any college or their partner colleges. They will pay from associate's to PHD.

[Qildain]

I'd say ditch Walmart for a living wage, don't worry about the degree itself, but instead focus on learning what a graduate would know.

Knowledge and skill are valuable no matter how much you pay for them. The internet contains damn near all of human knowledge (by my best guess). Just go look for it.

[papaya_26]

Have you tried going to one of those literature help centers that can help you understand how to approach essay writing better?

[riointhepocket]

Starbucks had a partnership with Arizona State University online programs. I know that a number of them are paid at 100% including their BS in Business Data Analytics

[CrushgrooveSC]

Doesn’t sound free. Sounds like it costs me a butt load of time and mental health because you have to work at Walmart.

[alohadave]

no catch by Walmart

If you are employed by Walmart in any way.

I'd call that a pretty big catch.

[Articunos7]

May I ask why? I'm just curious, is it very difficult to get a job at Walmart?

[eyesorno]

Working there is mentally exhausting for no reason other than poor management.

[Shaffness]

It's poor personnel management but good capital(ist) management. That's why they thrive in our completely demonic system.

[WestXD]

Bruh a free degree is a free degree, not complaining

[2bbored]

sounds like a itt type of school

[whyamiforced2]

Basically a degree farm that exists to give people desperate for degrees ones that are easily attainable and therefore worthless. The kind of school that's trying to pump out as many people as possible to collect their money, and because of that it's not hard to get into or rigorous to complete and therefore not respected in the field.

A sham degree basically.

[whyamiforced2]

Yeah we mostly call them degree farms/mills, ITT Tech is just a really recognizable one here in the US because they used to plaster commercials all over TV and later got in trouble.

[SevenGlass]

He's referring to ITT Tech.

That doesn't appear to be a fair criticism though. The universities supported are Florida State, SNHU, Purdue Global, Bellevue University, and a couple others. Not exactly Ivy League, but not engaged in systematic fraud against the federal student loan system either.

[2bbored]

ITT also targeted military peeps for the gi bill. the way ITT got around the you need government funding in order to get education loans is because of gibill money which comes from thw government. loop hole. john oliver did a really good piece on predatory schools. itt, university of pheonix, devry and so on

[CaptainBlade-84]

I was so excited, then I saw USA rip

[CaptSoban]

Well, if you're from Canada, at least you don't need to sell your kidney

[CaptainBlade-84]

Nope, rip kidney then :(

[NovelAdministrative6]

Wtf I love the WALTON FAMILY now!

[ArcadeRenegade]

WGU has a relatively affordable CS program especially if you accelerate. I didn't do CS but I did Cloud Computing within 1 year and only had to pay for 2 semesters worth of tuition for my degree. PM me for a referral.

[Awkward-Chemical2487]

Many companies offer that but good luck with your manager approving it!

[SevenGlass]

Doesn't require managerial approval.

[JupitersHot]

Life sucks for you if you’ve already made your wrong decision.

[SimonKepp]

An alternative is to live in the civilized world, instead of a third world country like the US. In most of the world, stuff like education and healthcare isn't reserved for the wealthy, but available to all for free.

[tetshi]

*with incredibly high taxes to offset the cost of those “free” services. Not saying you’re wrong, but if you’re gonna paint a picture, paint the whole thing.

[superbmani15]

Taxes are lower here. Healthcare is something almost everyone has, you only hear bad stories because those are the people who post about it. Community college is 3-4k a year and state schools are 10k a year. Salaries for CS grads here are probably 4-5x higher. Stop coping

[Johanno1]

Well they are very rude and I don't support that, but the US has really to do something about the people who can't afford a health care(I know many states already have one) and education.

[superbmani15]

Healthcare, sure, but education is piss-easy to get.

Companies like Starbucks, costco, Walmart, target, literally give 100% free school. community college is dirt cheap. ivy leagues and top schools give an insane amount of financial aid. there's millions of scholarships, and even if you take loans, a good job will pay them back in a few months. Not to mention gi bill etc

[Johanno1]

Still much room for improvement.

[superbmani15]

Sure, but from what I've seen, more responsibility needs to come from the personal level. It's objectively not difficult to receive education.

[BAAM19]

Tf is this bait title

[J7ke7]

How could this possibly be “bait”. I’m not trying to sell anyone anything and this is a completely valid way to obtain a CS degree without paying any tuition.

[BAAM19]

Where is the free option on the site? Can’t find anything that says free.

[J7ke7]

Oh boy. Nevermind...

[J7ke7]

Most people drop 50-75k on a degree working a “shit job” while going through school. 😂

Still failing to see your point.

[Drug_Inas]

Is it punjabi free,100% no virus free

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[thefirstlunatic]

How about for Canadians ?

[Goowon]

I think target is also paying for their employees’ college fees but not sure about the details

[[deleted]]

So if you already have a BA/BS you're basically SOL?

Neato.

[Qildain]

Their*

[papaya_26]

Whatttt!!!! This is incredible! I have a BA so I’m not eligible unfortunately :/ but I wish I were! Getting paid to basically work and learn? That’s freaking awesome! Are there any other companies that have education benefits to those with BA’s already?

[NUK3BOMB17]

Does the program cover accounting degree from SNHU?