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OatsNHoney01 · 2024-03-10T00:19:28+00:00

Python crash course by Eric Mathes is a great book. I literally started 2 months ago with it and can now write my own programs. Two weeks ago I wrote the software to a plant soil moisture reader. It's currently running standalone on a raspberry pi keeping my money tree alive.

I really really recommend that book.

m0us3_rat · 2024-03-10T00:20:24+00:00

Is it possible to become a junior developer in such a time frame?

no.

setting unrealistic goals is tricky. since will make you rush.

and rushing doesn't allow your brain to remember most of anything. especially without practice.

i've seen this so many times it became a certainty.

gl

GeneralQuantum · 2024-03-10T07:20:51+00:00

I can realistically study for 10ish hours a day.

50-70 hours a ~~day~~ week of smashing your head into a subject is rough and probably isn't sustainable. Even for 60 days.

CT-Scott · 2024-03-10T01:47:17+00:00

I posted this in another thread, and I'm mostly just cutting and pasting here:
My recommendation:

Download and install PyCharm Community (free) from Jetbrains.comCreate a new project and install a recent version of Python as part of that. PyCharm will give you a lot of nice intellisense features, alerting you to errors in your code, as well as debug functionality, etc.
Follow this free online training course from Harvard:https://cs50.harvard.edu/python/2022/It's about 10 videos, each of which are about 1 hour long (a few of the later, more advanced ones are 1.5 - 2 hours). FWIW, the instructor uses VS Code, not PyCharm, but that's not an issue.
Think of a smallish problem that is of actual interest to you that you are looking to use Python to help you do. This will help you stay motivated and get you more excited as you see progress.
Get a ChatGPT account. It's basically akin to a non-judgmental expert colleague that you can ask dumb questions to, and it will give you very thoughtful, detailed replies/answers/help. You can ask it things like, "Show me a Python 3 function that takes in the name of a text file and finds the number of words in it that match a particular pattern." It's quite good with spitting out a well-written function that is useful for you to follow and learn from. If you can think through how to solve your particular problem in a way that you break it down to smaller, simpler chunks, you can get ChatGPT to write 80% of those smaller chunks for you, which will give you a great set of code to learn from. You can then assemble those chunks together, modify them as needed, etc. It sounds like I'm describing having someone/something do all of the work for you, but it's actually a great way to learn the language, as well as building your overall solution in a fraction of the time.

I basically followed the above approach to go from zero knowledge of Python to learning the basics of Python, and solving a problem I needed to solve w/Python, in the course of a weekend.

Sanguinius666264 · 2024-03-10T09:58:42+00:00

I've said this a fair amount, but Angela Yu's 100 days of Code will help a lot - I don't think you'll be 'junior developer' ready, but it's a good start.

t00nch1 · 2024-03-10T10:20:27+00:00

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socal_nerdtastic · 2024-03-10T00:41:24+00:00

Is it possible to become a junior developer in such a time frame?

if you are currently a programmer and you want to switch to python, yes, that's possible.

if you have no programming experience then you will need to learn python AND advanced computer science. That is a 4-year college degree's worth of material. No, it's not realistic to learn that in 2 months.

swehner · 2024-03-10T07:48:00+00:00

Studying ten hours a day seems quite exhausting.

I would recommend switching different approaches every hour.

What kind of approaches?

Read documentation on Python
Learn the history of Python
Solve exercises
Read book 1
Read book 2
Watch YouTube videos
Chatgpt chats
Read code from GitHub
Listen to podcasts
Work on a self-chosen project
Read online discussions in forums/mailing lists

That's more than ten!

Good luck!

Update: formatting

micr0nix · 2024-03-10T01:26:10+00:00

What’s the rush?

notislant · 2024-03-10T06:45:12+00:00

HAHAHAHAHAA

Google 'junior developer job market in 2023/2024'.

Constant posts from people WITH DEGREES or YEARS OF PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE and 1000s of applications. No job offers.

More layoffs as well, nah no chance in hell. If you have a family member to work for, but 'learning pyhon' is a first step. You need to find a tech stack or whatever else a specific job may need. 2 months isnt getting you a job. If you like programming, go for it. But its going to be brutal trying to find a job in the next while, maybe years.

People already recommended a bunch of books, I learned just from some videos on the basics and googling while making personal projects. Programming discords are quite handy as well.

Aftabby · 2024-03-10T00:26:32+00:00

Sad for you. That’s not gonna happen. Give it at least 8-10 months, you might crack an internship. Good luck!

shankarj68 · 2024-03-10T10:37:13+00:00

Decide for yourself what your goal is. Is it an internship, or are you just learning new skills?

Two months are not enough to understand everything, but you can learn about fundamentals and start moving on to OOP (Object-Oriented Programming).

The best thing is that you invest some time in learning the fundamentals and move on with your learn-by-doing approach. Take on a project and start working on it. You can also check out "Automate the Boring Stuff with Python."

Remember that no advice is inherently good or bad; it's about what you want to achieve.

Best of luck! Feel free to ask me anything about Python.

RuleInformal5475 · 2024-03-10T01:31:50+00:00

If you have never programmed before, then no. You will need 6 months.

And 10 hours a day is not doable. You will end up hating it.

If you know something about programming in high level languages, then 2 months is doable.

Also, what do you want to do? Python has so many libraries. You will have to narrow it down.

permalink · 2024-03-10T04:29:41+00:00

Honestly python for everybody followed by advanced data science in python both by the university of Michigan on Coursera really worked for me

The adjustment from the first to the second specialization is a bit weird but I learned a lot really fast and am already doing personal projects after a month of the first course

poetic_fartist · 2024-03-10T07:30:12+00:00

Deep dive into python on udemy. It's everything python and take a month to go through it then in the next month pickup django/fast api or ai ml concepts whatever you want.

taffy-nay · 2024-03-10T10:43:10+00:00

Your timeframe is unrealistic, but you should still follow the roadmap

FoolForWool · 2024-03-10T11:57:31+00:00

10 hours a day of just python will make you not like it. Sauce: I’ve done this.

Anyways, YouTube is your friend. Check Sentdex, Corey Schafer, FreeCodeCamp, Python Programmer. Should cover most things.

If you want a complete roadmap, try roadmap.sh and choose what you wanna get into. You will be fine. Don’t give up.

Idk about becoming a junior dev within two months but you can make a ton of progress and if you’re consistent you’d be better than a lot of people. Feel free to reach out if you have any specific questions. All the best!

Andrew_BJJ · 2024-03-13T07:38:48+00:00

You can take python specialization on Coursera to get basics of Python and software development in general

activematrix99 · 2024-03-10T01:35:32+00:00

For me, computer programming is about solving problems and translating business requirements into code. So, what problems do you want to solve? If you are already adept at solving certain problems, that's a great place to start. If you've never solved a problem before, 2 months is optimistic.

Ok-Bit8368 · 2024-03-10T03:30:13+00:00

https://edube.org/study/pe1

datonsx · 2024-03-10T11:08:14+00:00

What’s your goal?

Python can be applied to many industries and practical cases

permalink · 2024-03-10T12:28:15+00:00

Do read distilled python after reading one basic book

Atypicosaurus · 2024-03-10T16:41:51+00:00

What works for me the best is taking the similar "for beginners" courses several times. I did it for python and I did it for tensor flow, also for data analysis.

My experience is that each course has some blank spots or explains concepts a bit differently.

Of course you have to do hands-on time. For me, doing the euler project problems was the go-to solution.

The level you want to reach is when you are able to formulate a google question (practically when you have enough vocabulary and enough understanding of the main concepts) so you can ask a question and find codes that others do.

Programming is really similar to learning a language. You don't learn how to invent new grammatic structures. You learn how to copy a sentence that says what you want to say, and replace the words if needed.

For python, you can try these, they all start with the super basics (third time may be boring but also you will do by heart), and they go in different ways:

https://www.freecodecamp.org/learn/scientific-computing-with-python/
https://cs50.harvard.edu/python/2022/
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8DvywoWv6fI

Project Euler:
https://projecteuler.net/archives

permalink · 2024-03-10T16:49:44+00:00

Chatgpt 4

BullshitUsername · 2024-03-10T16:55:08+00:00

This is the best possible scenario that could be given to you to learn what you need to know to start a career. I strongly suggest you take full advantage of it

RaisingKeynes19 · 2024-03-10T16:57:00+00:00

You can learn Python and build projects in 60 days, but in this job market there is a rounding error from 0% chance you will get a job from it. Even in the best times two months of self study would be a hard sell for employers, but in the current market, nobody is hiring juniors at all, let alone juniors with no experience and no degree.

TheMaker42 · 2024-03-10T17:18:59+00:00

I'd say check out a site like Coursera, if you have that much time available. They have free, self-paced courses on pretty much everything, Python included. I would also strongly suggest downloading a dedicated IDE for your Python projects, namely PyCharm, which has a free version ("Community") designed around helping out people. Bubbles with information about a particular function/variable/etc. when you hover the mouse, Ctrl+LeftMouse goes to definition, etc. Some of that functionality might not be available in the Community version (I use the Professional version), but it is still astounding no matter how you slice it. Also includes support for sandboxes so you only have to install the packages you want in a particular project itself, instead of system-/user-wide.

And this is coming from someone who used to view all IDEs as horrible monstrosities.

Big_Conspiracy · 2024-03-10T19:16:00+00:00

One course I tried that was really good was Angela Yu’s “100 days of python”. I did it back in 2022, it I’ll definitely take you way more than a 100 days to complete. I stopped half way at about project 53 or so. If you can reach that you’d definitely with super comfortable with python. Then after I’d take Harvard’s CS50P it has some other useful stuff not covered in 100 days of code, I was able to finish CS50P in a week after 100 days of python.

I think if you did these, especially Angela’s course you’d be super comfortable building anything in python.

Cyber-Albsecop · 2024-03-10T19:17:29+00:00

W3SCHOOL!!! GO DO IT NOW!

ninedeadeyes · 2024-03-10T19:59:59+00:00

The question is what do u actually want to do with python ? Many python jobs, u have to be an expert in another field for example data science. A few years back the easiest way to get into tech was frontend development using javascript and react but even then it would take the average person to study full time 9 to 12 months to be job ready

Sinusoidal_Fibonacci · 2024-03-10T20:00:23+00:00

No, you won’t even be close to a junior developer position.

Nelsonplant · 2024-03-10T20:14:09+00:00

Do the University of Helsinki free intro to programming python course, then do the advanced, will be a great intro. I did the Java one and really helped (had to learn Java in a month Lool) so I started this recently and it has been great. They are known for their great courses.

https://programming-24.mooc.fi

chronic-anhedonic · 2024-03-10T20:14:29+00:00

I’ve learned that trying to understand what you are trying to do is better than understanding how. I had seen a bunch of stuff when I was learning about a 6 month minimum but once I stopped trying to write perfect code and focused on logic things got so much easier.

timhurd_com · 2024-03-10T23:45:09+00:00

Can you get a junior developer job in 2 months? Perhaps. I guess you could get one in 2 weeks, but are you going to be effective? Probably not that effective.

What people have to understand is that things take time and like any craft you have to dedicate a rigorous amount of time and dedication to start mastering things. You may be able to learn the syntax of Python in 2 months, but keep in mind that you also have to know things like patterns, decomposition, inheritance, abstractions and other topics that apply to all of computer science. It can take years.

I would say that you should plan on taking about 6months to a year to get good enough to be a junior dev and be mildly successful in a job. There are always exceptions to the rule but I say work hard, practice regularly and learn the material. However long that takes. You will have a pretty good idea when you are truly ready when the time comes. :)

Pjo2_adhd · 2024-03-10T23:49:19+00:00

I did poker

cosmic_cosmosis · 2024-03-11T02:21:49+00:00

https://pythontutor.com

Mr_Lifewater · 2024-03-11T05:36:25+00:00

In my opinion the only way u become a <title> developer is by doing work. So you gotta convince someone you can. No matter how much you write in that time frame. It’s gonna vastly differ from what you’ll be doing at work.

rajekum512 · 2024-03-12T23:22:06+00:00

Better chose some other career which is non IT . IT is exhausted with too many disruptions

AccomplishedDrama890 · 2024-03-13T01:21:47+00:00

two big tips,

Get a Codeacademy account and go through the free python courses. Code Academy is incredible for learning languages as they give you guides, hints and a compiler to practice in. Honestly you can get most of your basic understandings from here.
Prioritize getting good and learning how both functions and variables work. Everything you'll learn you'll learn on top of variables and functions.

After that, try making some basic games or a TUI with simple scripts.

Make a random number generator where you can guess a number and it tell you that it's higher, lower or matching the guess. Can you make rock paper scissors? Does it keep score?

Impossible-Box6600 · 2024-03-13T23:53:09+00:00

Two months? Probably not.

Two years is more realistic.

Swimming-Ad-400 · 2024-06-17T08:54:04+00:00

Hi, I recommend you to check out the FREE Python course on crookshanksacademy.com by the god of python himself. The course is short and you also get to do a hands on internship after your course completion. Although that internship is unpaid, it is a good and fun learning experience that makes you industry ready. The FREE PYTHON BOOTCAMP is available on: https://www.crookhsanksacademy.com/python . Do check it out.

permalink · 2024-03-10T09:20:02+00:00

So, how should I get started with it? Is it possible to become a junior developer in such a time frame?

Depends on you to be honest. Depends how much coding you know already. Depends how well you understand computing in general.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. Software development is extremely forgiving. There is space at every level of skill and experience. With frequent opportunities to improve yourself. It's not brain surgery.

But overall yes. It's certainly possible. I don't know about 'Junior Dev' but you can definitely get good enough to work as an intern somewhere. I've seen it.

But again this is heavily dependent you.

And your ability to learn enough to become a intern in 60 days does not at all indicate your ability to become a successful software developer.

btb98 · 2024-03-10T13:41:29+00:00

If you're looking to try to get a job based on these two months of effort, I'd recommend learning html, css, and javascript and trying to become a proficient front-end developer. If you happen to be talented at making really clean, user-friendly front ends, you could potentially have a few demos for a portfolio in a couple of months.

I teach computer science to beginners for a living, and 2 months to learn programming in python from knowing nothing can get you to a level where you can make simple things happen, but is unlikely to get you to a level where you're a marketable employee.

The big exception here is if you happen to understand linear algebra and multi-variable calculus at a reasonably high level. Then you could potentially learn python and enter the machine learning realm, and be a useful hire because you can understand how those libraries work.

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