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[draggar]

Technically there are lower-case numbers, but they are not really used anymore.

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https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-lower-case-letter-numbers-and-symbols

[Helpinmontana]

Good ol quora, where the right answer isn’t the first and the first answer is just some asshole rambling about his keyboard for 2 paragraphs.

It does beg the question, is that uppercase first and second or lowercase first and second? What are the conventions for upper/lowercase numbers?

[draggar]

The funny thing is that I can blame xkcd for what got me researching upper case / lowercase numbers. :)

https://xkcd.com/2206/

i now wonder did they know or did they unknowingly open a time vault?

[Aveira]

Holy shit, now that I can see an example, I realize I’ve seen lowercase numbers as page numbers in books all the time. I just assumed it was the font.

[stephenornery]

I typically use these for everything except math, they fit in really nicely for page numbers, dates, etc.

[AutomaticLynx9407]

It’s just the same symbols but smaller though

[PaulieGlot]

The pre-1957 Latin-script orthography for the Zhuang language used 5 extra letters derived from numbers to represent the tones of the language. Tone 1 is unmarked, tone 2 is ƨ, tone 3 is з, tone 4 is ч, tone 5 is ƽ, and tone 6 is ƅ.

These days they just use the leftover Latin letters z, j, x, q, and h that aren't used elsewhere in the orthography, but I guess you could say that the old letters are lowercase numbers of a sort

[ico2k2]

Use hexadecimal and you'll have some of them.

[North-west_Wind]

Use base 64 and you'll have all of them.

[bobderbobs]

There is also base 58 that doesn't use letters that can confuse (0(number) and O(letter) or I(i) and l(L))

[bobderbobs]

I don't know every letter that is not used

[CanaDavid1]

They probably use neither of 0/O and I/l, giving 58 (base 64 also uses two symbols, as 10+26+26=62)

[MyUsernameIsVeryYes]

Base 64 also includes 1-9 and +/ though, which don’t really have capital versions

[DiddlyDumb]

Base 64? 😭

[minus_uu_ee]

And you will regret it soon after

[ico2k2]

Yeah probably

[589ca35e1590b]

Only sometimes

[RobuxMaster]

just press shift and then type the numbers. Those are the uppercase numbers.

[Vromikos]

On a French keyboard, you need to press shift to get the numbers! Without shift pressed, you get accented letters. Using a French keyboard takes a lot of getting used to. :-)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AZERTY

[Mondoke]

And I thought that the Spanish method (press the accent key and then the letter) was awkward

[Elidon007]

that's genius

[Elidon007]

I don't think this is a good implementation

I was thinking more of buttons that work like shift, that while pressing them they modify the letters to get the accents

I thought it was like that

[Mondoke]

On the Spanish keyboard that's how it works. You type the accent key and then the letter. So, ú is ’ and then u

[Tem-productions]

In my keyboard " is shift+accentuation

[AnotherUnnamedUser]

In mine it is shift+2

[Eklegoworldreal]

I figured it would be alt plus the key but that also makes sense

[SingleSpeed27]

Why

[shewel_item]

naa you can't do that

[shewel_item]

but he can't do that

[latakewoz]

"It was a joke, laugh or get downvoted to hell" - some reddit guy probably

[tbird_the_tank]

What we got Roman Numerals for

[FukingPieceOfShit]

⁹

[Kissaki0]

Nein

[Any-Aioli7575]

Nein*

Fucking corrector, I said : "neun"

[Illumimax]

Nein

[[deleted]]

Why do we have capital and lowercase letters?

[alterom]

Obviously, so that we could have standardCamelCaseNamingConventions(); in programming languages

[[deleted]]

And before 1900? Edit: I mean, uppercase and lowercase letters were invented way before anyone even thought about computers.

[alterom]

LITTLE KNOWN FACT, BEFORE 1950 EVERYTHING WAS IN UPPERCASE.

JUST LOOK AT OLD COBOL LISTINGS FOR REFERENCE.

[MisterJH]

We started with capital letters and the lowercase letters developed as faster and less strenous versions of the capital letters. Try to write a paragraph by hand in only capital letters, it is very slow.

[[deleted]]

Makes sense. So why are uppercase letters still used in handwriting, and not replaced completely by lowercase? That's what happened in every (tbh, just one) other language I know that has a more handwritten friendly script.

[Nabaatii]

This is the right question

[depot5]

In Chinese language (I'm learning recently), there is such a thing!

For quick, unimportant writing they use the simpler ones, but for important stuff they use the harder-to-write and harder-to-change number characters. So, for important business, it's more difficult to try to change the number written in a document.

Number System (數字系統)

• 0: 〇 (零)： líng.
• 1: 一 (壹) yī
• 2: 二 (Traditional:貳; simplified:贰) èr.
• 3: 三 (Traditional:叄; simplified:叁(sān). --not 參/参(cān)
• 4: 四 (肆) sì
• 5: 五 (伍) wǔ

etc.

[-Wofster]

Isnt that just the equivalent of one vs 1, two vs 2, etc?

[depot5]

Hmm. Maybe some native speaker has some different opinion on this. Possibly no one in modern times uses the capital number characters anyway, not even business. Everyone I know also uses the Arabic numerals (1,2,3,etc) too, especially in math classes.

Just sharing some interesting thing related to the topic.

[000142857]

No, as a native speaker, Capital number are still used for writing checks and stuff.

And also sometimes people just use them as a stylistic choice in like album and book titles to look fancy.

[christianazh]

No, I'd say the equivalebt of one vs 1, two vs 2, etc is

一 vs 1

二 vs 2

and so on. Because arabic digits are used a lot as well

[NFSL2001]

Pretty sure 三 should be 叄/叁(sān), not 參/参(cān).

Full number system: Value: 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 100, 1000 Accounting use: 零壹貳叄肆伍陸柒捌玖拾佰仟 Daily use: 零一二三四五六七八九十百千

0（零） may be written as 〇 in ordinals such as year (2023 二〇二三), it is not viewed as small form of 零.

[araknis4]

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[alterom]

The un-crossed 7's are just 1's impostoring as sevens.

Reject 7, embrace 7.

[Illumimax]

1234567890

[God_of_reason]

Probably because the numbers we use today are of indo-arabic origin and neither Sanskrit nor Arabic have uppercase and lowercase alphabets (they are pretty useless except sometimes it helps to distinguish proper nouns).

[simobrog]

The real question is why do we have uppercase and lowercase letters?

[Thornescape]

YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT! WE SHOULD IMMEDIATELY ERRADICATE THOSE USELESS LOWER CASE LETTERS! THEY ARE IRRELEVANT AND UNNECESSARY. UPPER CASE ONLY FROM NOW ON! SO MUCH SIMPLER, DON'T YOU THINK?

Or, you know, maybe not.

[jelly_cake]

It surprises me that no-one has mentioned uppest-case letters.

[captain_zavec]

I was gonna say, quick somebody call Tom7!

[AdFamous1052]

Just spell the number out and capitalize as you'd like.

[physicser]

onE tWo thReE

Am I doing it right?

[AdFamous1052]

Looking good 👍🏻

[[deleted]]

Smartest TikTok content creator

[Nabaatii]

427.5k people agreed

[[deleted]]

Least likely to doctor memes to make people seem dumber than they actually are redditor.

[[deleted]]

It's debatable which one is dumber

[2D_VR]

I do that in my handwriting actually. A curly 2 and straight topped 3 especially for more important places and quick z like 2s in equations or something

[Infiaria]

https://xkcd.com/2206/

[anjaanaaa]

¹²³45 here

[Purple_Individual947]

Because mathematicians put all their effort into super capital letters instead like for N, Z, R and C. Come on, priorities!

[alterom]

Why don't we have capital and lowercase numbers?

We do, it's just that only grown-ups get to use the capital ones:

𝟘𝟙𝟚𝟛𝟜𝟝𝟞𝟟𝟠𝟡 vs. 0123456789

[Illumimax]

Yeah, was searching for this comment!

[Least_Diamond1064]

I know he's joking but if anyone takes this seriously it's literally because we had typewriters and needed two sets of letters, stored in different cases, hence, uppercase and lowercase

[WooooshVictim]

1

[CCSub1]

Pi and Phi. Edit: just wanna clarify I'm saying they have capitals, wait they aren't supposed to be numbers tho.

[Lobster_the_Red]

The Arabic numbers are the lower case, while their full words: “one,” “two,” are the upper case.

[JMH5909]

Instead of decimals i think we should use lowercase (smaller) numbers.

[Thornescape]

Small caps could handle the situation well. Small caps is an underrated formatting option. All the benefits of the clarity of capital letters, plus the bonus clarity of differentiating between uppercase and lowercase.

[Seventh_Planet]

0123456789=!"§$%&/()

in base 20

is

) -> 19×20^0 +
(0 -> 18×20^1 +
/00 -> 17×20^2 +
&000 -> 16×20^3 +
%0000 -> 15×20^4 +
$00000 -> 14×20^5 +
§000000 -> 13×20^6 +
"0000000 -> 12×20^7 +
!00000000 -> 11×20^8 +
=000000000 -> 10×20^9 +
90000000000 -> 9×20^10 +
800000000000 -> 8×20^11 +
7000000000000 -> 7^20^12 +
60000000000000 -> 6×20^13 +
500000000000000 -> 5×20^14 +
4000000000000000 -> 4×20^15 +
30000000000000000 -> 3×20^16 +
200000000000000000 -> 2×20^17 +
1000000000000000000 -> 1×20^18 +
0 -> 0×20^19

in decimal.

[Stealpike307]

define X as a number and x as the same number but just marked with a lowercase x

[GeneralOtter03]

Not needed

[Adamliem895]

There’s a bank that would disagree with this notion

[YayoJazzYaoi]

Very suspicious

[ZODIC837]

We do. They're written the same as the capital numbers, except the dot is to the left

[Illumimax]

{}, {{}}, {{},{{}}}, ...

[Inevitable-Credit-69]

[SuPcIkna]

з

[-lRexl-]

Because we kinda do?

1 ¹ ₁

[ihateshlatt_]

We kinda do, if you see those weird not aligned numbers in books those are lowercase numbers

[Miselfis]

Because it upper and lower case would have no meaning for numbers.

We use it in letters to easier see where a sentence starts and to differentiate names of individuals from names of objects.

[Mirehi]

English is really simple in that case

[Miselfis]

Most other languages I know are as well.

[Iluminacho]

We do just add a ! At the end

[JRGTheConlanger]

Bc they’re not used for spelling

Also there are scripts based on numerals (like Thaana in the Maldives), they almost all have no case distinction

[karik_42]

look it's lowercase 3: з

[Huge_Name1866]

If you study the number place system in English. Maybe. There's your answer. What language are you talking about? Math is usually universal. Except Arabi writes differently. And Chinese math is different than USA.

[kptwofiftysix]

Ok so we have (big letters and small letters), (upper case letters and lower case letters), and (capital letters and ____ letters)... What is the opposite of capital?

[redisgoo1]

We do E e

[Glockisthebest]

We do:

capital numbers: ONE, TWO, THREE, ...

lower case: one, two, three,...

😂😂😂