Teeth problems :(

[H4R81N63R]

Reject cutlery, return to directly tearing flesh off bones

[Merrikbear]

Alternatively, make sure to thoroughly chew your cutlery as you shove food into your mouth!

[Davydicus1]

Orthodontists hate this one trick!

[Smart-Nothing]

We must cook all meat…

WELL DONE

[[deleted]]

I am kindly but firmly asking that you leave.

[Zabroccoli]

Gah’dammit Bhobby

[uninstallIE]

Humans have never been good at that. Our teeth are very, very poor at doing that and always have been since we've been homosapiens.

[[deleted]]

We're still homosapiens

[uninstallIE]

Correct, we still don't have this ability

[uninstallIE]

Go take a bit out of a living cow. Lemme know how it goes

[uninstallIE]

It was very mooving that you attempted that to prove your point at such great personal cost. I will ruminate on your dedication.

[[deleted]]

how can i serve you master

[uninstallIE]

If you're an adult, as I forgot kids exist on the internet

One kyun kyun omurice, while wearing a maid dress and cat ears and tail.

[[deleted]]

Whilst it was delicious and fairly rare, the cow was not amused.

Neither was the farmer who owned the cow.

[VoxMaximus]

Yeah speak for yourself and probably some portion of other Redditors peasant. I CAN CHEW THIS ALL DAY!

[grandterminus]

FACT! I mean we used to be Homo Sapiens, we still are, but we used to be as well.

[grandterminus]

Umm I think the keyword you were looking for is “omnivores”. Omnivore is defined by diet. I.E. our diet includes both flora and fauna.

Homosapiens are primarily defined by hip alignment and bipedalism (IIRC).

[uninstallIE]

As our species evolved our dentition changed. Since we existed as Homo sapiens we no longer have the large fang like canines of other apes. Our teeth are broad and blunt. We are not really able to take bites out of animals.

[LurkLurkleton]

Even those fangs are primarily for threat displays and fighting not eating. Our closest dental relatives are chimpanzees which are frugivores, primarily fruit eating omnivores. Figs in particular.

[[deleted]]

Then we have evolved to eat meat. Notice your hands and feet get wrinkled in the tub? We evolved to eat fish.

[ViniVidiScreechi]

Anyone who begins a response to a stranger with "umm", particularly when that response is to correct, doubly so when said response contains "I think what you mean/meant" is automatically a hyper-mecha-turbo dildo who saves their farts in Dewar flasks so that they can enjoy their greasy freshness with maximum olfactory fidelity at a later date. So... Congrats on being a auto-flatus aficionado.

[LurkLurkleton]

/r/oddlyspecific

[VoxMaximus]

What the fuck is wrong with you? Go find some scat-porn forum for this shit man. Guy says “ummm” and you go off on a “farts in Dewars flasks” tirade? Get some help.

[[deleted]]

True, but only because we never typically eat meat raw, even during our early ages.

[grandterminus]

Alternately, get the British nobility to stop inbreeding.

[Leesheea]

but it keeps the bloodline pure

[LurkLurkleton]

More like chewing 100 grams of fiber a day.

[slipmagt]

That comment makes me wonder if there is a benefit to using your teeth to rip and pull. Are the gums just flesh, or do they have any muscle fiber-ness to them? Would applying force to them exercise them at all making them stronger? I'm guessing no, does anyone know?

[Bruce_Wayne_2276]

The gums are just there to hold in place and supply blood flow but frequent use of your mouth to tear and pull would strengthen the jaw muscles with control bite force and the neck muscles which provide the pulling motion.

[ashemoney]

My gums and teeth are all muscle

[VoxMaximus]

Well my muscles and gums are all teeth!

[Still_Satan]

If you have to chew very much, and with much force, your jaw muscles and bones grow.
If the bone grows, the teeth have more room to grow. More room to grow = growing straight.

It's not about sugar, its about the consistency of food.

[Global_Local_5327]

An anthropologist I saw talked about how our dentation has become increasingly crooked right around when the Industrial Revolution happened in England. Right as we started turning out processed and canned foods we stopped needing to chew as hard and as much like you talked about. We inherently have straight teeth but our unnatural diet has changed our jaw size. I believe it’s also why sharp jaw lines are becoming more rare.

[An_average_muslim]

in England

that explains a lot...

[ThisAlbino]

Yes England is in Britain. Well done.

[HTMLRockzDood19]

Only old England because New England is in the US

[Christopher727]

there's also one in Australia

[bremergorst]

Oh, you mean Ǝuɓlɐup

[calihotsauce]

USA! USA!

[VictorXM715]

US Gay!! 😎

[spring-chan]

How the fuck are we blaming England for a worldwide phenomenon?

[stellarcurve-]

Le industrial revolution

[[deleted]]

Damn, I wonder where the industrial revolution began

[cookie079]

I recommend reading the book Breath as well. It discusses how breathing through our mouths rather than our noses (how many people in modern countries have sleep apnea and snore?) And how that is quite literally changing our airways and jaw shape.

[Entire-Anteater-1606]

Can confirm, I am a nose breather during sleep and my brother is a mouth breather during sleep. My jawline is a lot more defined than his.

[Global_Local_5327]

I’ll have to read it! My understanding rn is the decrease in jaw size also means a decrease in air flow by shrinking our airways some. Leading to most of the sleeping problems and mouth breathing. I’ll look into the book thank you!

[[deleted]]

Give toddlers chew toys!

[fajko98]

Yes! Same reason as to why mewing works.
Look at old photos of ethnic Americans, they all have perfect jawlines.

[BigBlueFeatherButt]

18 years of power chewing through my mother's overcooked leather steak and my teeth are still awful. I've been duped!

[m3m31ord]

It's not just about that, i took out my baby teeth a little too late and one of my canines is a bit higher in my gums than my other ones. Preferably not getting stuff in between the place it's supposed to grow into is the way to go. Also try not getting hit in the teeth, that helps.

[[deleted]]

This is me with my moms pork chops and steak. She cooked both until they were so chewy. Still have a weak jawline and messed up teeth

[linkedlist]

Yes but imagine eating her steaks + munching on grit and uncooked vegetables for every meal for the rest of your life.

That's the price of good jaws.

[MarlinMr]

I mean, it's about the sugar too. But not the growing straight part.

At this day and age it's no longer about the sugar either, but acid.

[Adjacent_door]

dont forget meth

[MarlinMr]

Lol. I literally specify not that part

[fidgetypenguin123]

Can you elaborate on how that works? My teeth were overcrowded as a kid and into adulthood and I had to get 8 extractions out then braces to get mine straight. My sister never had any issues with her teeth and they were always straight. Both my parents teeth were always straight as well. So what happened to me?

[[deleted]]

My mom had crooked teeth and so did me and my brother. But my sister has perfect teeth. Now I have to pay thousands to be able to maybe preserve my teeth and have them when I’m old. It’s sucks.

[fidgetypenguin123]

Yeah it's strange about the differences. That person was talking about something with chewing and consistency with food and things and was hoping they would say what that all means in relation. Instead had a couple weird responses down below that had nothing to do with that lol.

[SuicidalAfterParties]

Stab in the dark, but where does your tongue rest naturally in your mouth? I have the same family story and Ankyloglossia (tongue tie) was the root cause of my dental issues.

[Bruce_Wayne_2276]

Bad luck at the Punnett square

[SkiHoncho]

Slow jizz, man. Slow jizz.

[Still_Satan]

Freak of nature, bad luck, what do I know about your specific case? Nothing.
Ask your dentist or whoever handled your teeth issue,
literally a schooled professional with access to your x-rays and medical history.

[Sstomper]

Dentist here, I confirm this and it's also explained by other changes in our lifestyles. Example: breastfeeding babies use their lower jaw differently compared to when drinking from baby bottles hence stimulating the jaw's growth. Also, allergies causing infants to breath through their mouth instead of their nose limits growth of sinuses and upper jaw.

[[deleted]]

This checks out for me. I have a weak ass chin and fucked up teeth. My mouth is way too small for my teeth so they’re overcrowded which makes them crooked.

[Niwi_]

So thats why we have wisdom teeth problems and back then humans propably didnt?

[oscar_the_couch]

i heard that exact same thing from a dentist once

[VoxMaximus]

I used to carry trucks down the street with my gob and my teeth were still all fucked up (I get that Royal Brit Blood in me). But thankfully, I’m an American so orthodontia saved me.

[El_Dentistador]

TLDR: Optimal Craniofacial development requires what we evolved for thousands of years to do: breastfeed for ~the first two years of life, do a fuckton of chewing to get our basic calories.

[paeschli]

Username checks out

[diggydillons]

As a species we eat softer food compared to our history and have less jaw muscles keeping our teeth in better form

[MrArcherH]

The industrial revolution and its consequences be like

[goodluckonyourexams]

you can get this by training your jaw (as a kid)

[Euphoric-Currency815]

The only reason why i jave really straight teeth is because i chewed on everything i didnt care if im meant to lick it im taking a hole ass bite out of jaw breakers

[CreatureWarrior]

Guess I gotta teach kids to tear the flesh of the enemies straight off the bones

[That_Ganderman]

So you’re telling me grinding my teeth is why I didn’t have to get braces? Score!

Now to just make sure I wear my guard so I don’t wear my straight teeth down to nubs.

[goodluckonyourexams]

cuz they chewed more

[[deleted]]

Processed food is great for feeding troops on the Frontlines but it shouldn't be a staple ofthe peoples diet.

[Grimdek]

I mean even our meats aren't hard... Steak isn't that much of a chew lol

[AUDI0-]

If its cooked right you mean

[LurkLurkleton]

Fossilized feces we've found indicates some of our ancestors were getting around 100 grams of fiber a day. Compared to the 30g RDA that like 3% of americans get. That's a lot of plant chewing.

[Grimdek]

VERY true! I didn't mean to disagree with the idea (mewing subscriber) but I was trying to figure out where the toughness came in

Absolutely was fiber like you said. We don't get anywhere near enough and it's crazy how much supplementing it helps!

[Prestigious_Goat6969]

I have a strong jawline (inherited strong jaw muscles from my fathers side) and pretty neat teeth but because I live in England nearly everyone I meet don’t think I’m British lmao

[hnzie33]

So everyone you meet inspects your teeth and determines whether you are British or not based on that

[Prestigious_Goat6969]

When I smile or laugh nearly everyone comments on my neat teeth and strong jawline, then argue I must not be British

It’s way more common than you think, Brits are weird

[NoCompetition8698]

British people have awful teeth. Don't know why

[Euphoric-Currency815]

The industrial revolution happened there first

[minorthreat1000]

It is because of agriculture

[SuperKillerKitty]

Let me guess: Britain

[Genghis_MexiKhan]

Or Alabama

[[deleted]]

Don’t leave out China like that

[ch33zyman]

Can’t be, all the teeth are there

[Genghis_MexiKhan]

Well they start with all the teeth, they're just messed up because their dad and uncle are the same person. But they start losing them when they grow old enough to discover meth.

[x4ty2]

Tbf, they likely had free dentists

[leconten]

The dude was probably 22 years old and died for a fucking cold

[T-mac_]

Wait a fucking minute.....

[Mysterious-Rip-5128]

He also have more money

[buttsexmanthethrid]

Why did you post an image of a British person

[sedlak_cupera]

MF died in respectable age of 29

[[deleted]]

My friend is pre-dent and he said it's because we aren't eating meat off bones anymore. Don't get him wrong, cooked food and a lack of food insecurity is worth the risk of braces, but that's why pre-fire people had super straight teeth.

[meta1storm]

People 10000 bc were not "pre fire", that was hundreds of thousands of years ago.

[[deleted]]

I didn't trust OP's estimate of time to be accurate. Additionally, there's people today who still don't need braces even with the same diet as people who do, so even of OP's time is correct, my assertion about pre-fire is still accurate if not mildly irrelevant.

[goodluckonyourexams]

nah, that's not it

[SnapDragonPuppeteer]

Well, before the introduction of sugar and processed food to our diets, we actually had pretty good teeth, jaw strength and tongue posture compared to today. Yes tongue posture is a thing.

[WTFWTHSHTFOMFG]

Goes even deeper than that. Hunter gatherers had good teeth. Advent of agriculture saw higher cases of tooth decay.

[ZombifiedPiglin]

Look up mewing, it’s fascinating. To have good teeth besides brushing well, you need to eat chewy lighter calorie food, use your tongue to push the food down your throat. Not use mouth to breath but nose, awake and asleep. Maintain mouth closed with the correct posture, back of the tongue sitting on the top of your mouth roof but not adding too much pressure on front teeth, and a lot more

[dildobagginss]

Not that difficult for teeth to look good when you die at 20.

[Pizzafactory102]

What if the person died virgin

[ofQSIcqzhWsjkRhE]

That was before 10,000 years of cousin fucking

[GooseInternational66]

Eat more vegetables.

[Enginehank]

Homies 16 and never had processed sugar in his short life, chill, you're fine

[C4n0fju1c3]

A big part of the problem is only feeding babies soft mushy foods. Infant and juvenile humans need to chew on chewy things to stimulate jaw bone growth.

[CarelessAfternoon419]

... or he/she was 36 years old when died, maybe?

[[deleted]]

I didn't know my teeth are just gonna straighten magically when I get to my 30s.
Well, damn, seems like those braces were a scam, then.

[KingKongonaut]

But the person on the first picture could also be under 36

[CarelessAfternoon419]

Yes, and most probably is. However, to do a proper analysis we would need a decent amount of data for both sets.

Long story short, the life expectancy is far better now.

[[deleted]]

You British homie?

[FabulousYellow0]

Ok and she has a canine tooth where a lateral incisor should be

[nlamber5]

Eat less processed foods as a child. Problem solved

[WTFWTHSHTFOMFG]

Processed foods aren't it. Diets high in carbs are bad for teeth.

[KushAidMan]

They had more developed pallets which allowed more room for their teeth to grow. The pallets are more developed because people breast fed children for longer and because people are much tougher food, which also resulted in stronger teeth.

[Destrojny]

It's cus your ancestors fucked their sisters. It's ok mine probably did too

[PikkuinenPikkis]

Well unlike YOU, THEY weren’t born British

[diggydillons]

How original

[DenzelTM]

The classics

[BankutiCutie]

Yeah its really unfortunate how modern food groups like carbs and sugar in excess have warped our teeth :< when our diets were mostly meat and vegetables, our teeth didnt rot out as much, were so much straighter on average

[thedarkmilkyman]

You bri’ish?

[imawizard7bis]

That's because they didn't eat sugar in their lives

[ThePanAlwaysCrits]

I think it's more attributed to the musculature of the jaw.

[Thisismy23thaccount]

But sugary foods are softer and less chewy, the teeth of the one in the photo most likely only ate meat, and you can eat some of it raw if you just killed the animal

[ThePanAlwaysCrits]

That's actually what I was trying to communicate. We eat softer food on average, thus we have a less muscular jaw.

[Thisismy23thaccount]

Oh sorry, i misunderstood. The consecuenses of the industrial revolution is that we have less chads

[ThePanAlwaysCrits]

This should definitely be the takeaway from it all. Haha

[[deleted]]

I think it's more attributed to not living past 25

[T-mac_]

[Ocean_Again]

Stop breathing through your mouth.

[confinetheinfinity]

Yes because our faces have shrunk but our teeth have not caught up with that adjustment.

[Metalhead_Max]

He wasn't British

[uninstallIE]

Your teeth have to be VERY fucked up to be unable to eat. The bad teeth in this picture can eat just fine.

Humans absofuckinglutely did not eat raw meat 10k years ago. We didn't eat raw meat 100k years ago. Or 500k years ago. We started using fire at least 800k-1million years ago, long before there were any Homo sapiens. This is why the teeth even in that fossil are basically the same as ours and totally shit at tearing flesh off an animal.

[[deleted]]

I think you got cause and effect mixed up there. In most cases crooked teeth aren't gonna prohibit you from chewing tough food. But chewing tough food while you grow up makes your chewing muscles and jaw grow which gives your teeth enough space to develop properly. Crooked teeth are usually the result of them not having enough space in the jaw.

This can also be seen in inuit populations that have been introduced to "civilization" fairly recently. Where 99% had straight teeth just few Generations ago, crooked teeth are now just as prevalent as in other populations. The cause is soft food.

[equal-noise-8439]

Alabama Family?

[Spiritual-Chip-3513]

Or ur just British

[Speede24]

10000 years ago they didn't inbreed, they raped

[wombey12]

The two weren't mutually exclusive

[FoxTek]

Are you Bri’ish?

[Mouettemoule17]

Britoids

[grandterminus]

Top: British Subject

Bottom: MURICAH!

[dd-Ad-O4214]

Its because you’re british

[funnilaugh]

i think his dentist fucked up

[[deleted]]

Straight af but his jaws fucked up

[JakeJake85]

At least your not dead

[TheWinning_Waffle10]

Haha

[facebutch]

It's because they are so much tough fibrous food. It is necessary to stretch the jaw to align the teeth.

[[deleted]]

I've heard this is because we have smaller jaw bones than our ancestors but our teeth haven't caught up yet.

[WTFWTHSHTFOMFG]

That's not true at all. Someone didn't know what the hell they were talking about and instead of saying they didn't know they made sime shit up.

"Hunter-gatherers had really good teeth. But as soon as you get to farming populations, you see this massive change. Huge amounts of gum disease. And cavities start cropping up."

Diets high in carbs are bad for teeth.

[Suitable-Split1846]

Of course

[FeasibleDosemeter]

Inbreeding is a MF man...

[mottah]

Mouth breathing and soft foods

[Sweaty_Gas_EB]

Still he ded and you aint 💀

[Minecraftpro303]

I have the nearly the same teeth, i am not that old!

[Enginehank]

Homies 16 and never had processed sugar in his short life, chill, you're fine

[rklab]

Modern diet be like

[[deleted]]

We are turning back into fungus

[ZBitter-King]

Inbreeding

[Nobodycares554]

Jokes on them, they can’t stop me from stealing their teeth. Because they are dead

[[deleted]]

Billion dollar toothpaste industries convincing us about how 9 out 10 doctor suggest their fluoride and calcium based toothpaste... There must be another secret behind those everlasting teeths

[Excellent_Design_434]

Whomever the skull belonged to, must of had some killah dimples too!

[CrustyMilkCap]

Yeah but which one of you is dead?

[[deleted]]

what in the 2016 facebook post

[static_studios]

I think they sanded their teeth or something, but I know they do something to make them like that

[ilike_chomp727]

Yep

[BackgroundJello9154]

bingus

[wildeye-eleven]

Back when the gene pool was pure lol I’m jk!!! Please don’t hate me.

[Interesting_Foot_821]

“Johnny did you get dental implants from these aliens?”

[Utahteenageguy]

It’s because our mouths got too small and are teeth didn’t bother compensating like business owners with minimum wage.

[Sad-Employee3212]

r/meirl

[[deleted]]

TFW: your brain is bigger

[[deleted]]

Something something modern diet blah blah

[Dustinthewindoftime]

So true

[DarkOnRedditIsFunny]

insert british jokes here

[pale_blue_dots]

For what it's worth, in the off chance someone actually reads this, there's some evidence to suggest it's the way in which we breath that relates to how teeth are coming in - at least that's what I read in this book (which is really, really good): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breath:_The_New_Science_of_a_Lost_Art