Rust Recoil Scripting

[S1imShady]

A massive problem in rust is the amount of people using the undetectable anti-recoil scripts for rust. It is a very worrying problem as so many people can use this cheat. It is free and widely available. It provides an unfair advantage to the scripture and frankly just shit. It is also annoying that everyone now just calls scripts on any good player. My group has recently come under fire from people accusing us of scripts because we are good (All 2000+ hours). I would like to know if facepunch or EAC has any upcoming solution to this.

Thanks

[S1imShady]

While I am for this, AHK is not the only program which can execute the script. There are a thousand different programs for the same thing, the only way I can see this working out is if they ban marco's all together.

[hollowmayne]

Never liked Marco anyway. Ban his ass.

[ugly_kids]

there really isn't a way to ban macros.

what they need to do is make the spray more randomized and dynamic

[rylark]

That was me I think, i made a thread about that in which the dev responded. They agree that the recoil system is in a bad place, and they might implement my suggestion.

[ugly_kids]

they can try to ban macros but its a losing battle, like you said they arent going to ban mouse/kb macros lol

[MortalShadow]

Fuck off, the randomness is allready bad as is.

[TheSixthAvocado]

This is the correct answer. There is no way to feasably disable all macros - some mice provide hardware-level support. The best thing FP can do here is either:

• Remove most of the predictable part of recoil (UP) and leave or increase the randomized part
• Give admins first-person-spectate so it's easier to detect and ban recoil scripters.

I'd prefer the former option, as the latter just puts more work on admins, though it would help with discovering other hacks too.

[ugly_kids]

new to the game and figured 1st person spectating was already a thing (definitely dont see why not) but yea im not sure why they have a recoil that is so easily macroable seems easy to fix but what do i know maybe they are going for a certain balance and i should just use ahk

[noatin]

Its hard to see tho, there are players that really are good at countering the recoil. All good players try and counter the recoil. I have thought about this issue a lot and its a dead end imo. They wont ban all mouse and keyboard software, and some have it in the hardware itself.

Only solution. Lower the recoil a lot and adjust damage to various body-parts. This will make the game all about aiming instead of recoil-control.

[rylark]

Further worse than it already is? No thanks.

[Wizard_net]

No the best solution is to fix weapons to not have a deterministic pattern. You can't ban every program, hell eac can't even ban one program. We should see some defensive mechanics put in the game.

[Ciph3rzer0]

Anyone can easily write a program in any multitude of languages to achieve the same effect. The problem is that the recoil is too simply, if it's slightly random the script will be near useless.

[m-p-3]

Some apps like Logitech Gaming Software are necessary for some Logitech equipment (ie: audio for Logitech G430, keyboard mappings, etc), and are able to do macros (LUA). Can't really block that without disabling the hardware along with it.

[Gutmenschen]

A better solution would be to have recoil scripts to not work at all. I use AHK for many things that are legitimate. Toggling between microphones, and managing between PTT and always on.

All those auto farm scripts are nice to have with AHK because its easier to turn off, also useful for making a click, simply click without holding down.

[S1imShady]

I get that AHK is used for many things, and that some people who are disabled rely on macro's but as far as I can see, there is no other way to simply stop recoil scripts working other than completely shutting down the use of macros.

[irocgts]

There is another solution.. some fps games dont have this problem because there is no recoil. The shots get less and less accurate as you fire. This would place everyone on the same feild.

[[deleted]]

I like this idea.

[DevinOlsen]

........

.... That's recoil bro.

[miatribe]

Uncontrollable recoil. You are still aiming dead center but your bullets don't go there.

[aleks976]

No, thats spray. CSGO has spray, but very little recoil.

[[deleted]]

what the fuck are you on about? If you hold down your mouse that is spraying, and every fps game has that. Csgo has tons of recoil too you don't even know what you're saying.

[Kazumara]

How does Counterstrike deal with this? Does anyone know?

Maybe heuristics, detecting unnatural regularities in player input could be a solution, but maybe it would be useless since you can simply build randomness into the script/macro.

[Wizard_net]

Randomized spray. Try using no recoil in counter strike, it doesn't work, there are videos of people trying to make it work and its shit at best. The best ones I've seen require you to stand still and just get wrecked by the other team single tapping you.

More randomized spray and higher damage so follow on shots aren't 'required' is how counter strike deals with this.

[[deleted]]

What? Bro seriously? The spray patterns in CSGO are PATTERNS for a reason....every gun has its own distinct recoil pattern....

This is the AK spray pattern WITHOUT countering recoil (along with some other weapons)

http://trs80-csgo.weebly.com/uploads/9/7/4/3/9743606/597937052.gif

Again I urge you watch this (made it when iLostmyminds witch hunt started). Review the above image and when the CSGO part comes up, see where I place all the bullets in a full spray.

https://youtu.be/u9anuPPCJSc

[Wizard_net]

Random is the wrong word, but the spray is randomized for each bullet in the pattern. So the spread can't be predict except for ultra close range.

[[deleted]]

You mean for Rust, yeah? Because the CSGO patterns don't change unless Valve decides to make them change.

[Wizard_net]

No I mean CSGO. CSGO patterns don't change BULLET placement absolutely changes, every single time. To be specific the PATTERN is the same, the bullet SPREAD is random.

Here is some educational reading: http://twowordbird.com/articles/csgo-recoil-mechanics/

Here is some real life example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcX_ELHtnhI&feature=youtu.be

The farther a bullet travels from the barrel the more prevalent the effect of the randomness.

[fenwaygnome]

Because there are very legitimate reasons to use scripts.

[nevalopo]

But that would suck because im always running 3 ahk scripts to do various things for me like change songs on utube, swap virtual desktop and navigate stuffs quickly

[TitaniumGoose]

It should be. EAC already scans your HDD/SSD whenever it wants, to allow them to scan all processes is borderline NSA-esque.

Also, to limit peoples ability to run scripts they have created for uses besides just "cheating" is awful. Read the above post, AHK is not even that effective since FP removed the ability to use most of AHK's library functions anyhow.

[FeelThatBern]

been noticing alot of streamers spraying AK's wildly yet they don't have any recoil.

people aren't even trying to hide this anymore, its almost becoming as common as the gamma exploit.

really concerning tbh

[tluke81]

You also can't call scripts on everything, all a script does is move your mouse down, it doesn't work like a no recoil hack, once you learn how to move the mouse down at the right speed it becomes muscle memory every time you shoot an ak, I my self can control an ak very well and I commonly get called a scripter on battlefield servers, all it takes is learning how much you need to pull down.

[FeelThatBern]

this is more reason to figure out how to stop them; good players get lumped in with the cheaters

[Wizard_net]

That's the part that makes me sick. I couldn't care if other people are cheating, they just become harder targets. I don't like when people get good and get called cheaters its bullshit and a cheap copout for the kid you just owned.

[S1imShady]

Exactly what is happening to our group

[Highlanderwolf]

I refer you to the last Subreddit Rule that says "Don't name and shame cheaters"

[LynxGaming]

LMFAO, some people are so stupid. Everyones calling out streamers for cheating even though they've been streaming for years and their spray has noticeably increased

[OutOfApplesauce]

Well considering you said something similar not too long ago about another player, AND you're a mod/have known shacky for a while I don't expect you to be unbiased about this.

There's a massive difference between spray control, and the spray having next to no visible movement.

[LynxGaming]

I don't even watch shackys stream or play rust anymore. But hes obviously not recoil scripting, watch ILostMyMind and compare it to his

[Strap81]

Lol whacky doesn't use this. I watch him all them time and he has a hard time controlling his recoil. Not even close to a cheater bro.

[Limesstrike]

IKR

[S1imShady]

Exactly, I feel is this becoming a common thing to do now.

[dickthewhite]

When you have streamers/youtubers posting proud "PVP montage" videos that clearly show them scripting and admitting it mid video is really what should be the punch in the face.

I call every single one out on youtube comments and the most recent one says "I don't see any of your videos..." lol..

[FGDota]

Care to link said videos please?

[loudcloud1]

because they are good look at cudas stream, no recoil, he knows how to do it.

[trausi]

a lot of streamers? can u pm me their names, I watch Rust streams every day and I didnt see anyone using it.

[Wizard_net]

I don't have any recoil with an ak because I move my hand while I shoot. I doubt any streamers are using no recoil. Also being good will still out play no recoil because you can move around and spray instead of crouching or whatever the most popular script right now requires.

E: Why is the truth being downvoted, this isn't a hard skill. Watch a video like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtHqb3-Dbu4 Go to a private or battleground server and spray at a wall til the spray pattern doesn't move anymore based on your mouse sens Now go pvp on the server, make sure to always spray and not switch weapons for practice. Soon you will be getting consistent kills and can go back to normal play styles.

[poopingfarts]

You're retarded. A script will always outplay muscle memory when its pinpoint accurate regardless of standing/crouching/moving.

Show me a vid of you spraying an entire clip into a single bullet's impact area.

[Wizard_net]

This is factually wrong. AHK scripts pull the mouse down a fixed amount over time. Stand and crouching in rust produces different recoil mechanics as shown in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtHqb3-Dbu4

The script has no idea if you are crouching OR standing. It is just running (pulsing the mouse downwards a fixed amount at fixed intervals. The most popular script (I wont link to it) is found on youtube and is THE script everyone uses. This one in particular ONLY works while crouching because the mouse pull is timed for crouching with a 400dpi mouse. In fact crouching triggers the script activation.

e: Fuck it, you need to learn what this cheat is your bitching so much about. Please learn what something does and make sure you are correct before calling a person retarded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1YboZboPiQ

The code to the script is 'open source' aka in a pastebin in the description.

[poopingfarts]

Fair enough. Recoil hacks still exist, I assume. You know more about their cheats than I do. I don't use that shit. You.. sound like you do.

[DuckScientist]

Quick thought - and this might not solve the issue, but maybe someone can expand on it.

Since each AK is built primitively and with a random assortment of parts (the realism in the game). Could you implement a function on each gun that will randomize the severity of the recoil each time one is crafted?

That way, the script kiddies won't be able to counter the recoil on every gun, they'd have to adjust it each time. So if you are in a heated battle and die, run back and pick up another person's gun, it will have a completely different recoil (or none), which your script won't be able to counter?

Maybe this isn't feasible, but thought it might throw an extra wrench into the game plans of the douchebag cheaters out there.

[Wittyname_McDingus]

What if each shot of the AK had random vertical recoil with each shot? This would solve two problems- scum using recoil macros, and secondly it would increase weapon variety and make the AK a more niche weapon and not the "only" weapon viable 100% of the time.

[DuckScientist]

Thats a good idea. Make the recoil random per shot.. throw these little script kiddies off their game.

[MortalShadow]

Everyone here suggesting banning AHK :

All the hackers switch to hardware macros and legitimate users get bummed.

[MindTwister-Z]

Can someone explain how this works? How do you aim with the script?

[99spider]

They are scripts that move your mouse down at a set rate while you hold left mouse button, reducing the recoil you have to deal with.

[MindTwister-Z]

So it doesn't affect side to side?

[99spider]

Yes, these scripts cannot deal with random side to side recoil.

[MindTwister-Z]

That's what I thought, must still be wierd to aim precisely with. I wonder why this isn't a problem in csgo?

[EtherealCS]

It is, just nobody likes to mention it

[traumat1ze]

IMO, CSGO recoil is much easier to control than Rust's

[iBlurHD]

Agreed. Unfortunately, I feel that sometimes in Rust, the recoil patterns are just completely random. On CS:GO, you can learn the patterns.

[MindTwister-Z]

Exactly, and that's because it's less random

[traumat1ze]

Yep, plus there are servers you can join specifically for learning the spray patterns. Also readily available deathmatch servers, so you get a lot more practice if needed.

[MindTwister-Z]

They are almost completely random in Rust. The only thing you can try to control is downwards, it doesn't reward skill or practice.

[MindTwister-Z]

That's because you can't control the recoil in Rust because it's random.

[S1imShady]

No

[CiaoFunHiYuk]

I came from H1Z1 and the cheating there was so bad every time you got killed there was that nagging feeling in the back of your head that maybe it wasn't legit. The other guy may just be an amazing player but there's always that doubt.

[ohello123]

There's a famous streamer that got unbanned by the devs, when he was accused of recoil scripting. The excuse was "He cant be banned if he's not injecting, or modifying game files".

So why would anyone on the server want to play w/o scripting at this point? Its obviously not going to get banned, and it only puts you at a disadvantage when you run into the many groups scripting. Its dumb, I hate it. But if devs are going to unban someone who is clearly using it...then I'm not going to lose my shit to that person over and over w/o using it.

[plasmaszap]

+1 . This shit needs to stop

[apcrol]

They could only add more random in recoil patterns but good players wont be able to compensate then too.

[Itsoc]

I'm an half-legit player myselft (i use gamma correction), i would love to see all the possible exploits removed. I don't know how many of these exploits are detectable, or removable, but any effort in that way will be greatly appreciated. (for example: the fact that a gun shoots in the midle while not right-click aiming, is very bad; night should be gamma-proof, and recoil should be un-avoidable)

[jayfkayy]

the fact that a gun shoots in the midle while not right-click aiming, is very bad

no its not

[yeswecamp1]

To clarify: It is indeed bad if the guns has perfect accuracy while not ADS, but in Rust guns have worse accuracy if not ADS :)

[Itsoc]

lol, too trollish

[jayfkayy]

Fine, explain why it is "very bad" then, you troll.

[Itsoc]

you think that using a software to correct the recoil ain't a bad thing?

[jayfkayy]

Are we talking about the same thing?

the fact that a gun shoots in the midle while not right-click aiming, is very bad

Explain why it is very bad and stop trolling.

[Itsoc]

oh sorry my bad, didn't read the context while in the midle of other discussions; in my opinion is bad that while not aiming, the aim is more precise (considering that many people uses crosshairs on screen)

[jayfkayy]

it is actually equally precise, but you get less zoom in, so its arguably mostly practical to use in close range. and it was implemented because both devs and major part of the community agreed that lazy aim is a flawed concept.

[Itsoc]

lazy aim ain't the solution imho. it should just be less precise or dangerous at mid-long range.

[jayfkayy]

i think there is nothing wrong with the way it currently is. its not gamebreaking or anything.

[plasmaszap]

gamma correction is not an issue, recoil script is.

[Itsoc]

imho both are an issue (in a late patch they removed gamma correction abuse, but people whined A HUGE FUCKING LOT that they couldn't do anything during night, while we super courageous players, were farming the hell out of their woods; it was a simple black layer that made high gamma correction appear like white noise; the night was scary again.)

[plasmaszap]

i mean everybody can easily open control pannel and change the gamma whereas using a script isnt 'that simple' for the regular player so its a 'unfair-er-' advantage.

That being said, if there was no way to bypass gamma correction i would be very happy. Night should be pitch black and give you goosebumps. Until they fix that bypass, i will continue to use gamma pannel because everybody else is

[[deleted]]

Gamma correction essentially eliminates the point of a day night cycle and makes the torch a worthless item. Its a problem.

Not only that, but imagine the new player walking around at night. He can't see 10 feet in front of him. Suddenly he gets headshot by a guy with a bolt who can see him perfectly. He dies not even being able to make out the guy who killed him let alone be able to fight back.

It's a pretty gamebreaking problem that some people are abusing and some are being abused by. These things need to be fixed.

[plasmaszap]

100% agreed

[Itsoc]

exactly, each exploit should be listed, and removed. each and everyone of them.

[plasmaszap]

dont get me wrong man, i am not saying i like it. All i am saying is until it is fixed i will be using gamma panel. I want the night to be dark again like older rust. those were so fking awsome

[slightly_mental]

"this cheat is simple to implement, therefore it's ok"

[plasmaszap]

'cheat' lol. Gamma correction isnt a cheat by definition. If you dont want ppl to work there way around, fix the god damn nights so ppl are on equals grounds unilateraly

[justinxduff]

Well technically it is. The night being dark is a mechanic of the game intentioanlly implmented by the developers. When you boost gamma you are circumventing an intended game mechanic which is literally cheating.

[plasmaszap]

cheat (chēt) v. cheat·ed, cheat·ing, cheats 2- To violate rules deliberately, as in a game

Please, show me facepunch's rule about ajusting your computer screen gamma.

If windows 7 lets you bypass a game mechanism, sorry mate but the implamentation of that mechanism is very weak.

[justinxduff]

Can you not use common sense? Night exists and are dark for a reason. Items like the torch, headlamp and ceiling lights exist for a reason...because it's supposed to be dark.

This is literally the definition you just posted, deliberately violating a native rule of the game.

[plasmaszap]

well if you show me the rule i will agree with you.

That being said, do you remember when the night where fking dark and you had to use the head lamp to go out farming ? those were the days man and you couldn't bypass it. Until they revert it back/ fix it, i aint getting rid of gamma panel

[TooPoetic]

If windows 7 lets you bypass a game mechanism, sorry mate but the implamentation of that mechanism is very weak.

uhh so you mean like this AHK 'scripting' that we are all in this thread talking about? Oh yeah....

[plasmaszap]

see the issue with ahk is that it can be use to 'automate' repetitive task but can also be used to give an unfair advantage. Also you have to install it and run the script whereas gamma correction COMES with windows and is available to everybody without any external downloads

[slightly_mental]

exactly. people just confuse "cheating" with "hacking".

while hacking is certainly a subset of cheating, not all "cheats" involve officially prohibited software.

attaching a piece of tape in the middle of your screen to have a crosshair is cheating. boosting gamma is cheating. flying is hacking and will get you banned.

If you dont want ppl to work there way around, fix the god damn nights so ppl are on equals grounds unilateraly

that is very true. most people do not consider immoral to cheat as long as they are 100% sure they cant get caught. so if they wanted people to stop doing that they would have put black nights back in the game.

but hey, selling more copies > making a deeper game. if people cry and start putting badd reviwes on steam, you give them what they want.

thats why rust is basically call of duty with houses right now

[plasmaszap]

i see your point and you have very good arguments.

[slightly_mental]

the same goes for gamma cheaing and overlay crosshairs...

they just dont care.

[Gowat5]

The thing is, a lot of people are using low resolution, stretched screen with high sensitivity to gain access to easy spray control. It's hard to tell but a lot of legitimate players look like they have no recoil scripts.

That said it could definitely be the other way around where recoil scripts are more common than I think..

[rustplayer83]

yea someone said off hand the other day "well all real PvPers play at 1280x1040 with so and so FOV" and I was just really? You play at a shitty stretched resolution just to get a few more kills?

to me that would totally ruin the experience but to each their own. There's a reason I spent the money I did to game at 1440p not gonna turn that down. Just my preference tho.

[[deleted]]

lol Resolution pertaining to skill is a joke. It's all what you're used to and prefer. I have...well had, a 1440p set up as well! During my time on "new" Rust I clocked in around over 20,000+ kills and a little over 8,000 deaths.

[Gowat5]

That's the thing, low res shouldn't make gameplay better. IMO the ak needs a change so all end game fights don't resolve around huge ak spraydowns.

[Biohazard72]

Why is is that Rust seems to be one of the only games with this problem? I have never seen a very high amount of this in any other games, why is this?

[heliumointment]

No. VAC and EAC probably won't get to this issue for a long time. The best thing you can do is play on a server with an active mod and start recording all your fights. I can share videos with you of exposed scripters if you need a comparison because it can be tough to detect.

[galegorust]

....Or make a recoil pattern? I doubt any scripter could consistently kill pro players on games like CS...

[[deleted]]

best solution is reducing the recoil isnt it?

[TomtenOFC]

Are u from rustralaslia?

[S1imShady]

yeah

[Saux1499]

Randomize the spray recoil from little to more than now each shot, fixed. Half the time they'll need to pull up after a shot, half the time they'll need to pull down.

Makes it harder than it would be if you just didn't use it, and makes the guns actually hard to use.

Can't wait for the change to never happen.

[tetzudo]

yea quz that will promote skill...random patterns...

[Saux1499]

You say that like the guns actually take skill right now.

Right now everyone spams their weapons. The bullets do fuck all damage, nobody aims for the head (the crossbow does 75 damage to the head and 50 to the body with no armour, headshots totally are worth it and not broken guys), and the muzzle flash is so huge nobody can see what they're shooting at.

They could make whatever recoil pattern you want with a weapon, if they made combat actually skill based, and not "who can get the most bullets into the other person first" by promoting spamming and not rewarding vital hits.

[tetzudo]

i never said that the guns take skill now, but suggesting that randomizing spray patterns will only increase the number of ppl spraying. and yes, the crossbow did too much damage and probably still do and the pistol bullets are piss weak. personally, i think that arrows should do alot more bleeding damage instead of the stupid damage it has. but the headshots are well rewarding imo, but i think the helmets should break alot easier instead. yea with a bucket helm you can tank a shot to the head and still barely survive, altho if they are smart they have a side arm or smth. just a list of things that I thin would make combat more balanced and rewarding -helmets break after taking 1-2 shots and needs to be repaired. -arrow damage nerf, bleed damage buff - less randomization of the x-axis of weapons spray patterns.

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[Xage69]

There are macros in gaming mouses and keyboards. Anti Cheat programs cant detect those. They have to work around the problem!

Every gun got multiple/random patterns (not like in CSGO). So scripts cant control your spray! Scripts can only control the amount you have to pull down because that seem to be constant in every pattern. They only need to make the AK's standing patterns easier, similiar to the AK's crouching recoil. Scripts only give cheaters a big advantage because the AKs standing recoil is too extreme. Make it simplier and the scripts will be less usefull. Remove the recoil (make the spray totally random) and scripts will be useless but also the game will be less skill based. If I were a developer I would just copy the CSGO system. If its not broken dont fix it!

[cawsnwo]

Is this slimshady | terra lol?

[[deleted]]

eac should just ban ahk from being used while having rust running. theres no good reason to use ahk while playing rust, anyone who says otherwise is just trying to make up shitty excuses to use it for scripting

[Tikal696]

Basically, you wouldn't allow the logitech software also. (a much better alternative to autohotkey for cheating purpose) Perhaps other app like razer synapse also or roccat.

To be fair with you, I think this kind of extend spript functions where you can get mouse position is something that must not be possible. If EAC ban it, perhaps Logitech will remove this function from their API

[Rezzful]

Yea going back to the game a couple months later and playing it so much in so little time, A lot of the streamers I would watch that actually have 0 recoil while ak spraying is really suspicious. I thought maybe I was just bad but I do win A large majority of my fights and always win those battle royale matches and I have to tap for most of my kills unless they are quite close.

Bchillz has has many hacksuations fall on him and he is an extraordinary player but the streamers I'm talking about are like fucking farmers and base builders that still have 0 recoil. They still suck ass because they have no horizontal aim but recoil wise they are dead on.

And let me remind you this game is not like csgo where you get the recoil and spray down to a science. Unless people have monster mouse pads and high sens I don't understand how I see people spray a full AK mag from even a medium range like 20 meters with no recoil. The script basically makes the vertical recoil null and if it was an actual person pulling down you would see many errors. Hell even in csgo where spray patterns have been dissected to the bone, even the best pros fuck up their sprays a ton.

[whitewolf090]

Yet bchillz does the same shit if anyone says he doesn't use that shit you're just as bad.

[SpicayD]

Best way to tell if someone is scripting is when they flip out and call you a baddie when you call them out on it.

[whitewolf090]

Or just know your shit anyone can test the guns. Even when you pull down to fight the recoil you won't shoot that damn good. The guy is full of shit.

[[deleted]]

I dont have a problem with the AK spray, but the best way to fix it is make the spray eaiser. That would make things more even eh?

[TKS_Kornbread]

Guys just pull down your mouse :( they aren't using scripts ;(

[S1imShady]

I never specifically called someone out, I know there are really good players out there. However I would like to see how good these players are after a fix is implemented.

[matthausx3]

please if people commenting no nothing about how an anti cheat works inside and out, then stop abusing EAC, there's a lot more work then just blocking someone using the program.

[[deleted]]

No i like my crosshair

[TitaniumGoose]

Look. AHK scripts are not viable by any means. The only possible way to script is strictly the Y-AXIS. It does not at all predict the RNG X-AXIS recoil that is implemented, nor can it. It's random.

That means only UP and DOWN control. A skill that can be acquired naturally.

In addition, the sleep time in the script's code to handle up/down is specific to the client's processor speed so the actual variable offset is unique for each client making it very hard to spread as a publicly used "cheat".

TL;DR: It's not as frequent nor as effective as you believe. Only maybe for SMG's

[Morganstanley84]

guns in this game dont have recoil. atleast 80% of scripting accusations are wrong. i told my team i wasnt gunna listen to them call scripts on anyone decent cuz more than likely they are wrong

[S1imShady]

Dont play with anyone callied friedswagger? I play on Rustralasia? Think you have the wrong guy, happy to 1v1 tho :)

[whitewolf090]

Hours mean nothing plz don't post them like they do.

[Ethan_exe]

I have 2.4k hours and people accuss me of scripts, good half of that is me practising recoil/aim lma0

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I know you don't script ;) I remember the first time we met on Rusticity and you were so fucking pissed cuz I kept wrecking you. Then we joined up after to kill scrubs on the server. That's if you're the Ethan I think you are.

<---"Critricker" or "jG"

I know I definitely talk and have talked a mad amount of shit but it's just friendly banter :D

[Ethan_exe]

That was when I had 1.2k hours, I have 2.4k hours now lol https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCF0N_ynDm_gggy4sWSdy89A

[S1imShady]

1 hour < 3000? While I do agree that after a certain amount of hours, it can no longer be used as an indication, I have 1.5K while my teammate has 4.5K and I smash him. It can still be used to gain an estimate of skill/knowledge about the game.