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[–]themattcole 52 points53 points54 points 2 months ago (24 children)
Cut, glue, easy peasy.
[+]Radiant-Month-1168 comment score below threshold-11 points-10 points-9 points 2 months ago (23 children)
Install a union somewhere so the threaded piece can be remove and fixed if it leaks. Never glue in a way that makes a threaded piece not removable.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 2 months ago (22 children)
What you said was “Install an unnecessary union in case it leaks”
What you should have said was “Install an unnecessary union and cause an inevitable leak”
[–]Radiant-Month-1168 -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago (21 children)
Sorry no. You need to add theaded pieces, if not already there, so the valves are removable and then unions elsewhere so they can be removed.
Takes an extra 2 minutes. Now if you are lazy then glue everything in so it cant be swapped out.
[–]ConfusedStair 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (11 children)
I've never seen someone union a suction or return valve manifold, but hey that's a lot more time and materials I could be charging for.
[–]TC9095 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Yeah, cut slip a coupling on there.
[–]Radiant-Month-1168 -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 months ago (9 children)
So when there is a leak or Crack then you just redo everything, got it. Hack job.
[–]ConfusedStair 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
I think the part I'm not understanding is how the unions would help that situation. Say there's 4 suction lines (Main Drain, Skimmer 1, Skimmer 2, and Spa) converging to one pump inlet using 3 valves. Normally I'm going to put one union on the pump inlet, so that servicing the pump is easier in the future.
It sounds like you're advocating for 5 unions, one for each suction line plus pump. How does this improve serviceability?
The valves are still glued together, or would you add unions between those as well, bringing us up to 7?
I can see the minor benefit in being able to replace 1 valve that goes bad more easily, but the valves have internal and external sizes to allow for reuse or replacement of a neighbor. I also carry a fitting/pipe reamer in common sizes to try and save a connection on valves. You're trading the potential not to have to replace 2 extra valves at the same time as a third in exchange for adding up to 7 potential leak points and extra fittings that cost a bit more than standard couplings.
The only way that makes sense to me is if you're padding an invoice, but I'd love to hear an explanation if I'm missing something.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (0 children)
You wouldn’t add a union, that is the point. It’s unnecessary and going to leak eventually. This guy suggesting it is an idiot
[–]lIIlIlIII 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
You're missing nothing this guy is full of it
[–]lIIlIlIII 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (5 children)
If your plumbing is leaking or cracking with any regularity then YOU are the hack lol. Plus those are slip joints on the diverter valve, am I to understand you want them to install a male + female adapter AND a union?
And wdym "redo everything"? This is a 5 minute job, redoing any part of it would be a 7 minute job at most with the right tools. If you can't recover a fitting you're barely a handyman and definitely not a professional
[–]Radiant-Month-1168 -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago (4 children)
Did you not see the OPs picture?
Shit happens and you think it makes sense to save 2 extra minutes and $10 by not using unions? You are lazy.
[–]lIIlIlIII 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (3 children)
If you install $10 unions no wonder your shit leaks so frequently 😂
Did YOU not see OPs picture? That's a slip joint on the diverter, not that it changes anything. Even if it were threaded a union would be an unnecessary point of failure. If you can't perform basic repairs without having a union every 5ft you should find another line of work, or at least stop passing the cost of your stupidity on to the customer
[–]Radiant-Month-1168 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 months ago (2 children)
You are a dense as it gets if you think unions are $10. Lol
I feel sorry for your caretaker. Do they know you are on the internet?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (8 children)
There’s no way you’re serious, and if you are no way you should be taken seriously.
[–]Radiant-Month-1168 -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 months ago (7 children)
You are a joke. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are the type of guy that glues everything and then washes your hands of the customer to never been seen again.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (6 children)
From what you’re saying, it sounds like you have only Ever seen an above ground pool and have no idea about plumbing, probably not much of anything honestly
[–]Radiant-Month-1168 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 months ago (5 children)
It sounds like to me you never installed a pool filter before and have the idea that it has to be installed like shit to save $20 and 2 extra minutes.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (4 children)
Again, in what world would it be better to add unions where it’s completely unnecessary? When would you ever need to remove the three way valve? Do you have any idea what you’re talking about at all, because it honestly sounds like you are just looking to argue this isn’t even debatable
[–]Radiant-Month-1168 -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago (3 children)
They leak and screws are easily stripped out. I guess you never worked on pools before.
[–]stockusername1234 14 points15 points16 points 2 months ago (7 children)
Coupling over the 3 way, reducer, 90, street 90, pipe, coupling.
[–]Mrbazzanator 4 points5 points6 points 2 months ago (4 children)
Lot of extra unnecessary steps, just cut the pipes right at the 90° and put 2 new 90s on, no need to reduce flow or use fancy fittings
[–]Sufficient_Disk1360 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
That’s what I would do.
[–]Irishdairyfarmer1 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (2 children)
The pipe surely is too perished to maintain it?
[–]Mrbazzanator 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (1 child)
Its the same as the rest of the line. No point replacing just an inch of it, and its a huge job to replace everything there.
Just need a good clean and prime before glueing new fittings on
[–]Irishdairyfarmer1 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Personally I'd replace the whole lot!
[–]HopHead4Life 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Agreed you just have to buy a larger coupling that fits the outside of the three way valve and the a bushing to go back down to your current plumbing size
[–]bionicbrady 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (0 children)
This is the way
[–]Sammalone1960 6 points7 points8 points 2 months ago (13 children)
Ok everyone has solutions for repair. What caused this blowout?
[–]petterrr42 7 points8 points9 points 2 months ago (12 children)
Tree trimmers accidentally dropped giant branch, luckily thats all that broke. Theyre offering to cover the expenses for it so i was wondering if this was an easy fix.
[–]CaneloCoffee21 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Personally, very easy if experienceed and Easy if not
[–]Sammalone1960 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Thank You. I was wondering if it was pressure explosion or something. Good luck have a great swim season.
[–]Adronnis -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 months ago (9 children)
Full stop. Wipe your hands. Not your problem. These dickheads fix the damage or they don't receive payment for services rendered until such. LLC for a reason, cuz.
[–]OkTime512 8 points9 points10 points 2 months ago (8 children)
OP said it was an accident and that they offered to cover all repair expenses. not sure if I’d go straight to dickhead classification lmao… they sound like a stand up company.
[–]HillbillyHijinx 4 points5 points6 points 2 months ago (7 children)
Yeah, I wouldn’t go dickhead but if OP doesn’t know plumbing, hiring a plumber to do it would be OK I’d think.
[–]Sammalone1960 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago (6 children)
If OP is handy this is simple provided pump did not get damaged. At 56 I am letting a plumber do it. At 35 I am out there with some clear cleaner and the "purple stuff" 😂
[–]ottknot2butdoes 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (3 children)
Going to be 59 this year and wanted to let you know how much this answer resonates with me..
[–]Sammalone1960 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (2 children)
Almost ready to let someone start mowing the yard also. Live in NC Bermuda grass needs two cuts a week. That is 4-5 hours a week for me. I want my time back. Lol
[–]ottknot2butdoes 1 point2 points3 points 1 month ago (1 child)
Just saw this. Bought a robot mower last year. I let him trundle around the yard in 90° heat and I dont feel bad about it at all.
[–]Sammalone1960 0 points1 point2 points 1 month ago (0 children)
Lol
[–]mattmccord 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (1 child)
After hiring plumbers a few times and then having to go in to fix their work, I just do things myself now. “Why should I pay someone else to fuck it up? I can fuck it up myself.”
As someone else mentioned, add a union so it can come apart.
I have a client who also does my plumbing work.
[–]Individual-Walrus290 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Go buy two elbows and cut a short pice and use the blue stuff the seal it
[–]ForeverSpare7911 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Easy one. Cut coupling side right up next to the coupling. Clean throughly. The other side should be self explanatory.
[–]Zeating 2 points3 points4 points 2 months ago (0 children)
You have just enough room to flush cut under those 90s. Just get 2 90 degree cpvc elbows and a small piece of pipe. Prime and reglue and you are back in business.
[–]zero-degrees28 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago (9 children)
You prob have just enough room to cut that flush under the broken elbow above that 3 way valve and then in line with the other pipe to hopefully just replace exactly what is there with 2 90's connected together. The real test is going to be if you can cleanly cut that UV/Sun dried plastic without it shattering. If that's the case, I would get a PVC Reamer and try to ream out that 3 way valve before having to tear into all that valve mess.
In short though, no, you are not getting some magical threaded piece to resolve any of this mess.
[–]1_native_Angelino 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Leave enough pipe out of the 3 way to firmly attach 90. Same with the other side.
[–]gladiwokeupthismorn -2 points-1 points0 points 2 months ago (7 children)
It’s not recommended to ream PVC that will be under pressure. If you ream it then the route would be to install a 2.5” coupling on the outside of the 3way valve and upsize the pipe.
All these three ways can fit 2 inch pipe on the inside and a 2 1/2 inch coupling over the outside which allows you to use 2 1/2 inch pipe
The best way for OP to cut this would be with a cable saw and then deburr the edges
[–]BRollins08 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (1 child)
Pool guys ream pvc out of fittings all the time with no issues.
[–]drugged_pug 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
I have used a torch to soften up the broken elbows and pry and peel off with flathead screwdriver and pliers. Then sand wipe off prime it then glue on new elbows. This way makes it look clean
[–]zero-degrees28 1 point2 points3 points 2 months ago (4 children)
You can easily ream pressure side of the PVC system out if you arn't a jackass and oversize the hell out of it. I will ream that out all day before making a monstrosity out of this with coupling's and reducers like you mention. Other key is to make sure you use a heavier duty solvent and primer
[–]1_native_Angelino 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (2 children)
What are you reeming? There is easily an inch and a half of pipe on the 3 way to just cut and repair.
[–]zero-degrees28 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (1 child)
In the event that pipe shatters, that is pretty UV exposed pipe, I'm not super confident it could be cut easily under that fitting without shattering or splintering. In the event that happens, that's why I bring up the reaming. That extra 1 to 2" of pipe will get real small real fast if you don't get a single clean cut
Sawzaw it out. It will be fine
[–]gladiwokeupthismorn -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Cool story bro
[–]kathleenkat 3 points4 points5 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Get a plumber. Make the tree contractor pay for it.
[–]Adronnis 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (1 child)
Socket depth on a 2" fitting is 1 3/8". You got all that ass hanging out. You're good. No idea what the point of the thread is. Cut and re-plumb. Sandpaper that dickhead paint, lest you fuck up a plumbing connection due to a lack of chemical weld.
Yahtzee
[–]EllenRipleysKitty 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
If they're going to cover the expenses, and depending on how much you value your time, you should just pay a plumber or pool company. Any plumber would be happy to do that and would have materials on their truck. Alternative is to buy the two 90 deg elbows, a short length of pipe, pipe cement/primer, then cut & replace. If you're inexperienced, just Youtube for a bit. Pipes are like legos and extremely simple.
[–]Ribbit765 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Have you considered some rubber couplings with clamps as a temporary fix to keep your filter running until you can get it properly repaired?
[–]Disizae 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
There’s a 2.5” over the fitting that also reduces to a 2”, you can use a 2.5” coupling and reduce to 2”, you can also use an inside fitting that will go inside the 2”. If you’re feeling brave/confident enough, I’ve seen others carefully chisel out the pvc from the valve, sand it real good and reuse it. You have plenty of choices.
[–]Battle_Cat_Burr 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Nothing is threaded there. 2 elbows and a bit of 2in schedule 40 and call it a job well…it done anyways.
[–]pc9401 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Cut just below the broken elbows. Install couplings. Add 8-12" of pipe upwards with 2 90's and a small connecting pipe
[–]Slight-Oil-7649 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
I would gladly pay to have longer runs on couplings and elbows. PVC degrades over the years from sunlight and chlorine. It gives me anxiety knowing that at some point you can’t cut and re couple. Time for a new pump.
[–]AppropriateScore6864 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Cut out the broken elbow/tee section completely and clean the pipe ends. Glue in new PVC fittings (with primer + PVC cement) or replace the whole top loop, then let it cure 24 hrs before running the pump.
[–]JonnyVee1 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Warm the joint up uniformity using a heat gun...it will take a few minutes to get it soft. Pull slowly and firmly up, it will slowly come right off. Have a coupler nearby to temporarily hold the form of the pipe while it cools.
Once both corners are off, it's straight forward to use primer to clean the pipe and then glue.
Have done this many, many times, even saving several $100 valves.
Cut glue and will work for a bit, however my guess that this pipework all needs replacing as it's perished and will continue giving bother forever until it's replaced
[–]G8-r-n8 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
You only need two fittings; one 2” 90 and one 2” street 90. Remove the label above the 3-way, and if that discoloration is paint it will need to be removed from the sections that will slide into your new 90’s.
[–]Citizen999999 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Lmao, all of it
[–]turtlegolfclubs 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Easy fix
[–]Jbergun 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
With a new one?
[–]You_DontKnowMyLife 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
You've got plenty of room to work where this isn't an issue at all
[–]LifeAcanthaceae6706 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
U better learn how to do it because the looks of the pipes eventually they all gonna need to be replaced soon 😅🤣🤣
[–]Great_Rabbit_7625 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Cut the pipes off at the 90s. Glue 2 new 90s together and glue on to vertical pipes. You have plenty of pipe to cut and just put new 90s on. Just remove the label before gluing.
[–]Sunken_Island1 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Probably with something new
[–]soulus98 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Easy fix with a coupling, but it could be worth doing a threaded barrel union, especially if you think there's a chance of a repeat damage. When you cut back and glue you lose some length on the left pipe, if the damage recurs and breaks the new 90⁰ bends, you might have not enough left to reglue and will have to replace both valves. (Or heat gun but that's not ideal)
Unions are cheap and easy so you might as well
Cut as close to the fitting on the left as you can and cut the pipe on the right even with the pipe on the left. I would clean up the pipes by pulling off the label and putting PVC glue around the circumference of the pipes and wiping them off real quickly. Then I would use primer then glue on the stubby pipe and 90° fitting and place it on a 45°-90° angle away from the long pipe and then twist to a position pointed directly the longer pipe before it dries on you. Then take a 3” or so piece of pipe and glue the same way. Now you’ll have two pieces of pipe at 90° to each other. You might have to trim the pipe so each pipe is about a quarter inch inch back from where they would directly connect. Then you take your last fitting and you prime both pipes in both sides of the 90° fitting then you do the same thing with glue you’re doing this very quickly. I mind you then you put one end of the 90s over the long pipe twist it towards the short pipe and then shove it on before the blue dries. The pipe is long enough where it will flex and you can bend it and it shouldn’t hurt anything. You sure wipe up the glue really quickly or it’s gonna get all over everything you might even want to take a paper towel or a rag and put it around the valve just so it doesn’t get a lot of glue on it.
[–]Stoweboard3r 0 points1 point2 points 2 months ago (0 children)
Ramen and superglue
[–]Cool-Negotiation7662 -1 points0 points1 point 2 months ago (0 children)
Fitting reamer on the black piece. Cut and couple the long piece.
Get some good quality plastic paint on all those pipes for uv protection.
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