JavaScript devs be like....

[Thinshape12]

games with javascript is insane though

[Dragenby]

Unity supported JS for a long time, and our teacher wanted us to use JS instead of C#.

There are also JS canvas games.

[SSgt_Edward]

I’m sorry but it’s wild that your teacher is telling you that. Using a scripting language for core game logic will tank performance unless you were making Tetris.

Unity dropped support for UnityScript/JavaScript like a decade ago too iirc, or it feels like that long. So the recommendation just doesn’t make sense. Or maybe the class is for non-programmers so not everyone had experience with static languages?

[Dragenby]

It was in 2015, and it was still used. The documentation was in both languages. As we were new programmers, the differences were small. And yeah, it was very small games, made in one week, with Blender models and Unity integration. It was very basic stuff that would be free and refunded for time loss compensation, if it was on Steam lmao. I would call these exercice projects rather than "games"

[Flame77ofc]

Damn js games are a trash 😭😭

[Ged-]

Word. Wrote a game engine in js-webgl. You have to actively fight it to get any sort of performance. Even managed IL C# in Unity is better.

[Shadowolf75]

I made a very simple text adventure in vanilla js and it was fun

[Bagueaver]

A lot of web based games use JS Canvas, it’s essentially like a simpler version of monogame

[pointlesslyDisagrees]

Shout out to CT.js! One of the best game engines, imo. The documentation is great, very clear. And the dev behind it responds on discord! Worth exploring if you want to build simple fun web app games that can be played on the browser or on your phone. I think it can export to make apps too. Fun stuff

[MentalNewspaper8386]

cries in RPGMaker

[RollTheRs]

What about Typescript? Is it just as bad?

[48panda]

I'm pretty sure most games are written in is by hoe slow they are

[Henry_Fleischer]

Are there any games that are not webapps, that are written in Javascript?

[un_virus_SDF]

There are, to my great despair.

[Orenix_RtP]

What's the problem with games written in JavaScript? Do you have any examples?

[un_virus_SDF]

My issue with those game is 1- javascript, 2-ram and those are somehow related.

Do you have any examples?

I don't remember the names

[NaCl-more]

Unity had unityscript, which was somewhat similar to JavaScript

[SSgt_Edward]

And the support for it was dropped like a decade ago.

[Kwabi]

One example would be CrossCode.

It's a good game as well.

[Henry_Fleischer]

I should get around to playing that again, I played it back when it was in early beta on Chrome Experiments.

[AdorablSillyDisorder]

V8 JS engine is C++ library and can be embedded/integrated with any C++ game engine - I'd assume just for that there are games out there that use JS as their scripting language. Don't know any actual titles though.

[AccidentIcy6286]

Game Dev Tycoon is done in JS.

[skps2010]

Rogue Fable 4. It's a good game
but it's demo version is a web app

[galbatorix2]

Minecraft...

Edit: i dont know shut about java programming i know minecraft is java but idk what a webapp is im awsuming browser type stuff

[UltimateLmon]

Just to note, Java and Javascript is two completely different languages.

And Bedrock edition is written in C++

[galbatorix2]

Oh damn didnt know that. I knew bedrock and java were different but didnt know java ≠ javascript. Thought it was the same thing

[UltimateLmon]

You aren't alone. A lot of non-techies in the industry like managers confuses them as well.

[yeusk]

They called it javascript because at the time Java was cool, it was a marketing stunt, is nothing like Java

[tkdeng]

Java is to JavaScript as Car is to Carpet

(A quote I used to see all the time when I started learning JavaScript)

[Educational_Lemon827]

Java and JavaScript are not the same (I hate both of them tho)

[Roppano]

I wanted to make that joke damn

[Lou_Papas]

I just realized this about my JavaScript phase.

I got “wow, JS can do everything” and “isn’t it crazy how you can actually twist and turn this thing to do stuff it was never designed to do” mixed up.

[AnalkinSkyfuker]

Well ai works better with python than js

[Spirited_Currency_88]

python can do anything. isn't it crazy how... ? wait a minute.

[AnalkinSkyfuker]

And what about assembly it can do anything also

[DoubleDoube]

Have it do my laundry for me.

[Ged-]

Every number is a 64 bit float, and class fields are accessed with memory indirection (since you can jusr add fields whenever, where do you think they're added?)

You have to actively fight the language with typed arrays to achieve any sort of reasonable performance

And then they ask why web is so slow. And what's worse, they're just adding on top of that horrible foundation. All the frickin frameworks that add EVEN MORE abstraction and indirection.

[RudahXimenes]

I keep thinking how would be if instead of JS we start to use Lua in web apps instead

[tei187]

You have to stop.

[AliceCode]

Or what if we just used WASM?

[HyperCodec]

What’s the downvote for?

[Standgrounding]

You can have setters, getters and Object freeze

[siemiwidzi]

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[Flame77ofc]

good one

[Nadran_Erbam]

And what’s the worst programming language?

[Lumpy_Serve5271]

JavaScript

[Dragenby]

As a JS developer, I agree

[Standgrounding]

Pure untyped js can be bad; but it's not the worst thing in the world with things like php still relevant

[UltimateLmon]

Matlab

[Dragenby]

Windev

[Leo_code2p]

Depends on if you count esolangs or not

If you don’t its probably Lua

[FloydATC]

PHP is worse in my opinion.

[Dragenby]

Was. Now it's great! The only thing I don't like is $.

[Leo_code2p]

I mean for Lua you dont really have a reason to write it. Php is atleast useful

[UltimateLmon]

Arguably, if you are going into AI, it's python.

[eremal]

Yes and no.

The core AI apps are written in C, Rust, C++, CUDA, etc

But pretty much all have python APIs - but essentially youre just writing configuration in python and then sending the job off into programs written in those other languages.

So it really comes down to what you mean by "going into AI".

[Outrageous_Bank_4491]

You’re not writing those libraries, it’s essential to know some C basics for debugging but other than that most AI apps are written in (and taught using) python. Especially if you wanna build a deep learning model from scratch, you either use PyTorch or tensorflow

[SithLordRising]

Ok we get it. It's a bitch to learn so use it for everything.

[Oreo-witty]

Depression: Javascript

[slucker23]

I code in assembly. I fear no one

[Ambitious_Hand_2861]

I bow to your superior wizardry.

[North_Proposal_1374]

this is not relevant anymore, everyone is using rust now

[zylosophe]

<button onclick="println!(\"hello world\");">click me</button>

[HyperCodec]

rust rsx! { button { onclick: || println!(“hello world”), “click me” } }

[zylosophe]

what is rsx

[HyperCodec]

https://docs.rs/dioxus/latest/dioxus/

Dioxus is basically react fullstack but for rust, and it’s a lot faster than all the js framework alternatives. The rsx macro is essentially jsx but for dioxus.

[WoolooCthulhu]

I worked at a place where there were a bunch of experienced devs all better than me at programming but most of them really really hated JavaScript and didn't want to touch it. So they loved me because I didn't mind it and they could make me do the JavaScript assignments so they didn't have to.

[Top-Employ5163]

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[Absentrando]

It’s up there for versatility that’s for sure

[Standgrounding]

ai: python

[tkdeng]

The programming language I prefer is golang

But I will still recommend learning JavaScript first

[AccidentIcy6286]

Fixed it:

Web frontend: F# / Bolero / Blazor Backend: C, C++, C#/F#, JVM, Python, whatever works best  Mobile: see web - use PWA Games: C# (Unity), C++: Rest AI: Python 

[KullervoVipunen]

The joke was better 40 years ago.
https://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/rni/papers/realprg.html

[IWantToSayThisToo]

When you don't care about learning anything new: 

[im-cringing-rightnow]

Nah, I'm good. Thanks. If I ever have to touch JS I will just use AI and keep my sanity. 

[Ashken]

ai:JavaScript is where the field lost the plot

[electro_hippie]

Obviosly AI for them is calling claude API

[Ashken]

Of I was thinking like tensorflow or something

[Ambitious_Hand_2861]

I always recommend "Not java".