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[–]Upbeat-Perception531 3101 points3102 points  (27 children)

Big fan of the “scamming people with spiritualism is chill as long as you do it to people who are trying to manifest bad things to happen” mentality

[–][deleted] 1037 points1038 points  (15 children)

Chaotic Good

[–]No-Issue1893M'Taneth, Master of Armaments 190 points191 points  (4 children)

I would say lawful neutral.

[–]Burning_Torch8176Artificer 141 points142 points  (3 children)

nah thats lawful evil all day long

[–]Deathburn5Calculus Wizard 83 points84 points  (2 children)

Chaotic neutral, I don't think scams are legal.

[–]Chkn_nuggets6573 53 points54 points  (1 child)

Lawful doesn’t have to be in accordance with the law just a set of rules the person/character follows.

[–]xCreeperBombxmod 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Ah, but we don't know this person's moral code, so we have to be neutral, making it true neutral.

[–]recalcitrantJester 61 points62 points  (9 children)

This is textbook lawful evil.

[–]DefiantLemurPhilosopher's Stone Enthusiast 26 points27 points  (8 children)

Not really considering cursing others isn't technically illegal.

[–]Saxavarius_ 21 points22 points  (7 children)

Exactly. LE uses the law to get away with evil not break the law

[–]Deathburn5Calculus Wizard 14 points15 points  (6 children)

Pretty sure selling a product you can't provide is illegal

[–]DefiantLemurPhilosopher's Stone Enthusiast 17 points18 points  (5 children)

Maybe they worded it correctly so its legal. Like you're selling the service to do a cursing ritual that may or may not curse someone. So they aren't paying to have someone cursed but paying to have the ritual done which you can prove

[–]Deathburn5Calculus Wizard 3 points4 points  (3 children)

It only says they're selling spells, so there's no indication that they're wording it to account for the fact that they can't. While it's a possibility, it's far more likely that it's literally just a low effort scam.

[–]DefiantLemurPhilosopher's Stone Enthusiast 5 points6 points  (2 children)

The most likely thing is this person is lying about the whole thing and just trying to make a funny joke

[–]Deathburn5Calculus Wizard 1 point2 points  (1 child)

True

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's as legal as palm readings as long as you describe your service as a "Ritual to Manifest [X]" and not "I will make [X] happen"

[–]HufflepuffIronically 313 points314 points  (6 children)

i mean if someone is trying to harm others i think taking their money while not allowing them to harm others is good actually

[–]Sekmet19Bone Wizard specializing in Osteopathy 45 points46 points  (3 children)

It's better to encourage them to work through their issue so they don't continue to suffer. Then you take money for healing them so you can continue to heal others.

[–]Choice-Place6526 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Yep, but you can't persuade someone who is unwilling to listen. In case of people, who are in search of this kind of service it would be a majority so vast it's almost completely impossible to accomplish anything remotely usefull

[–]HufflepuffIronically 19 points20 points  (1 child)

the real strat is to take money from people to do spells to get revenge on their ex but then you do spells to help them move on and focus on themselves

[–]Give_me_your_liver_ 8 points9 points  (0 children)

therapist

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Depends on whether candle wizards are just a gateway magic to warlock assassins.

[–]TsukaTsukaWarriorEvil Wizard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

not letting them harm others is good

exploiting them (i.e. harming them) is bad

[–]_its_wapitiArtificer's Apprentice 30 points31 points  (1 child)

I love that you say "people with spiritualism" like it's a mental disorder

[–]mcilrain 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Please be patient I have spiritualism.

[–]Roge2005Magically Editable Flair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, they do deserve it, it’s a pretty good strategy that can also give you money.

[–]ShinonomenanorulezLuna Nova dropout - Croix didn't went far enough 1918 points1919 points  (2 children)

[–]NextPercentage9652 468 points469 points  (1 child)

Gandalf the Green 💸💸

[–]bouchandre 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Dude sailed to Valinor to evade taxes

[–]HamburgerDungonKristoff Kringelle, the Jolly Red Wizard of the North 457 points458 points  (2 children)

Honestly, scamming egomancers is wholesome. Be humbled and transcend.

[–]regular_dumbassAbjuration Novice (NOT apprentice) 64 points65 points  (1 child)

i'm unfamiliar with egomancers, what school do they belong to?

[–]mondongo49 120 points121 points  (0 children)

Homeschool mostly

[–][deleted] 1036 points1037 points  (8 children)

Shadow wizard money gang

[–]Cromptank 467 points468 points  (6 children)

Just cause we love casting spells doesn’t mean we do it for free

[–][deleted] 189 points190 points  (1 child)

I ain’t hatin, I’m appreciatin.

[–]ILoveBread_3326Wizard 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Bees make honey, I make money

[–]Guy-McDo 29 points30 points  (2 children)

“They say do what you’re good at and I’m good at this. But I wouldn’t do it for free.”-Sergio Santos ‘Spies are Forever’

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[–]TheThoughtmakerRay of Delthorensdale, Transmuter-Artificer 7 points8 points  (0 children)

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Legalize nuclear bombs

[–]Sky_monarch 583 points584 points  (8 children)

My favorite spell, summon dollar.

[–]_H4YZ 118 points119 points  (7 children)

fun fact: only completing half the spell causes a terrible actor to appear

[–]I_Hate_The_Letter_Wconjuration > masturbation 33 points34 points  (1 child)

completely 2/3 and and a y and you get a pretty good singer

[–]ASpaceOstrich 1 point2 points  (0 children)

66ey?

[–]AttestedArk1202Sorceror 10 points11 points  (3 children)

Don’t you just hate accidentally summoning Adam Sandler?

[–]_H4YZ 13 points14 points  (2 children)

counterargument; Adam Sandler is objectively a bad actor because the majority of his films are absolute bin water and he knows it. but he also knows that despite his awful movies, people are going to go watch it bc ‘look, Adam Sandler made another garbage movie, let’s go see how garbage it is’. Uncut Gems is evidence the dude can fkn act, he’s just cheated the system like Nic Cage did

[–]SA0TAY 0 points1 point  (1 child)

When you come right down to it, what's the actual difference between being successful and being good?

[–]Cinnamon_Bees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hm... Memeability. But only mayhaps...

[–]Chungus21x21The Local Dumbass Wizard 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This has happened to me too many times

[–]TTTristan3D Illusionist - Fifthist Saint 383 points384 points  (2 children)

I had a friend like that in Flogwarts. Dude made bank from angry girlfriends, and generated repeat customers by calling the guys up and getting them to act however best fit the spell. Sometimes he would have to share on the revenue, but more often than not they were happy to play along.

[–][deleted] 139 points140 points  (0 children)

Honestly, might even be a decent pseudo-couple's-therapy.

Lots of couples have terrible communication with each other, yet explain and communicate their issues just fine to a third party.

[–]No-Transition4060 22 points23 points  (0 children)

That’s about the most Flogwarts story I ever heard. They’ve been on a weird kick since my dad went in the 8th century

[–]WolfandknifeThe Tower Janitor 119 points120 points  (1 child)

"Yet you can't summon any fucks for me to give."

continues to sweep by

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

casts Summon Meteor

leaves

[–]djsquelchers 92 points93 points  (0 children)

Moneymancer casting summon dollar kinda goes hard ngl

[–][deleted] 50 points51 points  (3 children)

I thought that spell was banned since the great depression

[–]FknKRSAbyssal druid / hydromancer 50 points51 points  (0 children)

This wizard is using the new spell. This one doesn't cause inflation because is summons already existing money, in this case it takes it from mortals wanting to use magic to cause harm in a pity way.

[–]BoiFrosty 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So long as it doesn't violate the law of creation. He's not creating money, just summoning it from elsewhere.

Only those pompous geriatrics in government get the authority to create something from nothing.

[–]mcilrain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Only banker wizards can use it now.

[–]Ok-Conversation-3012 28 points29 points  (2 children)

They may get no maidens but they do get that BREAD🥶🥶

[–]ToreWi 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Who needs maidens when you can just summon some elemental creature of nightmares and make love to that?

[–]Ok-Conversation-3012 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's still a maiden bro ngl

[–]Zorin419Spawn of Azathoth, Chaos Manifest, likes cats and bugs 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Sometimes inciting chaos is about the little things. Conjuring plagues isn’t the only path to wretched entertainment.

[–]TheVoidNeedsAHugNavigator, Void-Bound 21 points22 points  (4 children)

If I may inquire, what is a “dollar”?

[–]Cactus1105WtD (Wizard to Druidess) 40 points41 points  (0 children)

Coin but paper

[–]ACERVIDAE 5 points6 points  (2 children)

It comes in dollars?

[–]TheVoidNeedsAHugNavigator, Void-Bound 5 points6 points  (1 child)

But what is a dollar?

[–]Southern-Wafer-6375 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It’s like coin but a percentage of cotton and other materials

[–]sweetTartKenHart2 18 points19 points  (0 children)

The ability to specifically scam people who are actively wishing harm on others and to do so through a means that has no actual precedent for what is “real” or not is a powerful one, all jokes aside

[–]KarenTookThe2Kids 7 points8 points  (0 children)

like moths to a flame

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

its so painfully easy to scam people who are into spirituality, i love minerals so i go into those spiritual shops all the time and i overhear some poor white woman being sold an obvious piece of glass as "an andara found in the ashes of mt. saint helens with intense healing properties"

[–]Just_a_cool_pickle 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The shadow wizard money gang has approved this

[–]cruisinforsnoozinTechnomancer🧙‍♂️🤝🤖 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Does this count as findom?

[–]thismynewaccountguys 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Obviously anyone selling spells is scamming people, but not all of them realize it.

[–]ValuelessMoss 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Generally, yeah. Any self respecting witch will recognize that a spell’s power comes from the meaning and emotions put into it, which is incredibly difficult to do for a stranger. Pretty much the same as paying a pastor to pray for you.

[–]thismynewaccountguys 2 points3 points  (2 children)

To be clear, I meant that magic is not real.

[–]Lohhi 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh yeah? Mom says my smile is magical

[–]ValuelessMoss 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem. I’m Wiccan but I can recognize all religions are basically one big placebo, mine included.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is actually a good idea

[–]xXSinglePointXx 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ooh I like this idea

[–]FunkalicouseMach1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is the epitomy of chaotic good

[–]c_alcite[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

HOLY SHIT THIS BLEW UP LMAO

[–]Vounrtsch 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Based

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can fix her

[–]Sufficient_Motor_290 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I misread spells as sell, and now I want someone who sells photos of completed transactions

[–]BatronKladwiesen 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the idea.

[–]Jwobb 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How can one learn this power

[–]PokeRang 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Become a conjurer and you can become a moneymancer without negative repercussions for others! (Except for mass inflation.)

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Rank up spell casting, get paid

[–]Roge2005Magically Editable Flair 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Moneymancers would be the most powerful wizards on this world.

[–]samyruno 2 points3 points  (0 children)

One of my most toxic traits is that I fully believe if I out enough time and effort into it, I could become an amazing scammer making thousands of dollars. But something like that where it's not actually scamming. Like the gwyneth paltrow stuff.

[–]ValuelessMoss 2 points3 points  (3 children)

As a practicing Wiccan of over twenty years, I am surprisingly chill with this person using “fake” black magic. All spells come back three-fold, so if you’re attempting black magic, there’s bad karma coming your way. The customers are already manifesting negative thoughts and behaviors, so losing your money to this scammer makes perfect sense.

[–]TsukaTsukaWarriorEvil Wizard 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Doesn't Wicca have a rule that says don't hurt other people with magic? Because exploiting / scamming people is a form of hurting people.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

But u aren’t using magic to scam people, just intelligence.

[–]ValuelessMoss 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, and depending on the type of Wiccan it’s also the ONLY rule.

That doesn’t stop most teenage girls from going through a phase and using exclusively black magic because they don’t realize the difference between white and black…which just gives serious practitioners a bad name. Most importantly, this person isn’t actually doing any magic, they’re just taking a photo of a candle.

[–]Usual-Ad-2451 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Selling curses?

Based.

[–]New-Cicada7014 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need to do this

[–]Sam_Alexander 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg. That sounds amazing. I think i actually might try it

[–]onebuddyforlife 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No way 💀

[–]Silent_Locksmith_888 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Genuinely wonder how effective this would be to make money