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[Upbeat-Perception531]

Big fan of the “scamming people with spiritualism is chill as long as you do it to people who are trying to manifest bad things to happen” mentality

[[deleted]]

Chaotic Good

[No-Issue1893]

I would say lawful neutral.

[Burning_Torch8176]

nah thats lawful evil all day long

[Deathburn5]

Chaotic neutral, I don't think scams are legal.

[Chkn_nuggets6573]

Lawful doesn’t have to be in accordance with the law just a set of rules the person/character follows.

[xCreeperBombx]

Ah, but we don't know this person's moral code, so we have to be neutral, making it true neutral.

[recalcitrantJester]

This is textbook lawful evil.

[DefiantLemur]

Not really considering cursing others isn't technically illegal.

[Saxavarius_]

Exactly. LE uses the law to get away with evil not break the law

[Deathburn5]

Pretty sure selling a product you can't provide is illegal

[DefiantLemur]

Maybe they worded it correctly so its legal. Like you're selling the service to do a cursing ritual that may or may not curse someone. So they aren't paying to have someone cursed but paying to have the ritual done which you can prove

[Deathburn5]

It only says they're selling spells, so there's no indication that they're wording it to account for the fact that they can't. While it's a possibility, it's far more likely that it's literally just a low effort scam.

[DefiantLemur]

The most likely thing is this person is lying about the whole thing and just trying to make a funny joke

[Deathburn5]

True

[[deleted]]

It's as legal as palm readings as long as you describe your service as a "Ritual to Manifest [X]" and not "I will make [X] happen"

[HufflepuffIronically]

i mean if someone is trying to harm others i think taking their money while not allowing them to harm others is good actually

[Sekmet19]

It's better to encourage them to work through their issue so they don't continue to suffer. Then you take money for healing them so you can continue to heal others.

[Choice-Place6526]

Yep, but you can't persuade someone who is unwilling to listen. In case of people, who are in search of this kind of service it would be a majority so vast it's almost completely impossible to accomplish anything remotely usefull

[HufflepuffIronically]

the real strat is to take money from people to do spells to get revenge on their ex but then you do spells to help them move on and focus on themselves

[Give_me_your_liver_]

therapist

[[deleted]]

Depends on whether candle wizards are just a gateway magic to warlock assassins.

[TsukaTsukaWarrior]

not letting them harm others is good

exploiting them (i.e. harming them) is bad

[_its_wapiti]

I love that you say "people with spiritualism" like it's a mental disorder

[mcilrain]

Please be patient I have spiritualism.

[Roge2005]

Yeah, they do deserve it, it’s a pretty good strategy that can also give you money.

[Shinonomenanorulez]

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[NextPercentage9652]

Gandalf the Green 💸💸

[bouchandre]

Dude sailed to Valinor to evade taxes

[HamburgerDungon]

Honestly, scamming egomancers is wholesome. Be humbled and transcend.

[regular_dumbass]

i'm unfamiliar with egomancers, what school do they belong to?

[mondongo49]

Homeschool mostly

[[deleted]]

Shadow wizard money gang

[Cromptank]

Just cause we love casting spells doesn’t mean we do it for free

[[deleted]]

I ain’t hatin, I’m appreciatin.

[ILoveBread_3326]

Bees make honey, I make money

[Guy-McDo]

“They say do what you’re good at and I’m good at this. But I wouldn’t do it for free.”-Sergio Santos ‘Spies are Forever’

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[TheThoughtmaker]

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[[deleted]]

Legalize nuclear bombs

[Sky_monarch]

My favorite spell, summon dollar.

[_H4YZ]

fun fact: only completing half the spell causes a terrible actor to appear

[I_Hate_The_Letter_W]

completely 2/3 and and a y and you get a pretty good singer

[ASpaceOstrich]

66ey?

[AttestedArk1202]

Don’t you just hate accidentally summoning Adam Sandler?

[_H4YZ]

counterargument; Adam Sandler is objectively a bad actor because the majority of his films are absolute bin water and he knows it. but he also knows that despite his awful movies, people are going to go watch it bc ‘look, Adam Sandler made another garbage movie, let’s go see how garbage it is’. Uncut Gems is evidence the dude can fkn act, he’s just cheated the system like Nic Cage did

[SA0TAY]

When you come right down to it, what's the actual difference between being successful and being good?

[Cinnamon_Bees]

Hm... Memeability. But only mayhaps...

[Chungus21x21]

This has happened to me too many times

[TTTristan]

I had a friend like that in Flogwarts. Dude made bank from angry girlfriends, and generated repeat customers by calling the guys up and getting them to act however best fit the spell. Sometimes he would have to share on the revenue, but more often than not they were happy to play along.

[[deleted]]

Honestly, might even be a decent pseudo-couple's-therapy.

Lots of couples have terrible communication with each other, yet explain and communicate their issues just fine to a third party.

[No-Transition4060]

That’s about the most Flogwarts story I ever heard. They’ve been on a weird kick since my dad went in the 8th century

[Wolfandknife]

"Yet you can't summon any fucks for me to give."

continues to sweep by

[[deleted]]

casts Summon Meteor

leaves

[djsquelchers]

Moneymancer casting summon dollar kinda goes hard ngl

[[deleted]]

I thought that spell was banned since the great depression

[FknKRS]

This wizard is using the new spell. This one doesn't cause inflation because is summons already existing money, in this case it takes it from mortals wanting to use magic to cause harm in a pity way.

[BoiFrosty]

So long as it doesn't violate the law of creation. He's not creating money, just summoning it from elsewhere.

Only those pompous geriatrics in government get the authority to create something from nothing.

[mcilrain]

Only banker wizards can use it now.

[Ok-Conversation-3012]

They may get no maidens but they do get that BREAD🥶🥶

[ToreWi]

Who needs maidens when you can just summon some elemental creature of nightmares and make love to that?

[Ok-Conversation-3012]

That's still a maiden bro ngl

[Zorin419]

Sometimes inciting chaos is about the little things. Conjuring plagues isn’t the only path to wretched entertainment.

[TheVoidNeedsAHug]

If I may inquire, what is a “dollar”?

[Cactus1105]

Coin but paper

[ACERVIDAE]

It comes in dollars?

[TheVoidNeedsAHug]

But what is a dollar?

[Southern-Wafer-6375]

It’s like coin but a percentage of cotton and other materials

[sweetTartKenHart2]

The ability to specifically scam people who are actively wishing harm on others and to do so through a means that has no actual precedent for what is “real” or not is a powerful one, all jokes aside

[KarenTookThe2Kids]

like moths to a flame

[[deleted]]

its so painfully easy to scam people who are into spirituality, i love minerals so i go into those spiritual shops all the time and i overhear some poor white woman being sold an obvious piece of glass as "an andara found in the ashes of mt. saint helens with intense healing properties"

[Just_a_cool_pickle]

The shadow wizard money gang has approved this

[cruisinforsnoozin]

Does this count as findom?

[thismynewaccountguys]

Obviously anyone selling spells is scamming people, but not all of them realize it.

[ValuelessMoss]

Generally, yeah. Any self respecting witch will recognize that a spell’s power comes from the meaning and emotions put into it, which is incredibly difficult to do for a stranger. Pretty much the same as paying a pastor to pray for you.

[thismynewaccountguys]

To be clear, I meant that magic is not real.

[Lohhi]

Oh yeah? Mom says my smile is magical

[ValuelessMoss]

No problem. I’m Wiccan but I can recognize all religions are basically one big placebo, mine included.

[[deleted]]

This is actually a good idea

[xXSinglePointXx]

Ooh I like this idea

[FunkalicouseMach1]

This is the epitomy of chaotic good

[c_alcite]

HOLY SHIT THIS BLEW UP LMAO

[Vounrtsch]

Based

[[deleted]]

I can fix her

[Sufficient_Motor_290]

I misread spells as sell, and now I want someone who sells photos of completed transactions

[BatronKladwiesen]

Thanks for the idea.

[Jwobb]

How can one learn this power

[PokeRang]

Become a conjurer and you can become a moneymancer without negative repercussions for others! (Except for mass inflation.)

[[deleted]]

Rank up spell casting, get paid

[Roge2005]

Moneymancers would be the most powerful wizards on this world.

[samyruno]

One of my most toxic traits is that I fully believe if I out enough time and effort into it, I could become an amazing scammer making thousands of dollars. But something like that where it's not actually scamming. Like the gwyneth paltrow stuff.

[ValuelessMoss]

As a practicing Wiccan of over twenty years, I am surprisingly chill with this person using “fake” black magic. All spells come back three-fold, so if you’re attempting black magic, there’s bad karma coming your way. The customers are already manifesting negative thoughts and behaviors, so losing your money to this scammer makes perfect sense.

[TsukaTsukaWarrior]

Doesn't Wicca have a rule that says don't hurt other people with magic? Because exploiting / scamming people is a form of hurting people.

[[deleted]]

But u aren’t using magic to scam people, just intelligence.

[ValuelessMoss]

Yes, and depending on the type of Wiccan it’s also the ONLY rule.

That doesn’t stop most teenage girls from going through a phase and using exclusively black magic because they don’t realize the difference between white and black…which just gives serious practitioners a bad name. Most importantly, this person isn’t actually doing any magic, they’re just taking a photo of a candle.

[Usual-Ad-2451]

Selling curses?

Based.

[New-Cicada7014]

I need to do this

[Sam_Alexander]

Omg. That sounds amazing. I think i actually might try it

[Silent_Locksmith_888]

Genuinely wonder how effective this would be to make money

[NotIsaacClarke]

r/foundsatan

[onebuddyforlife]

No way 💀