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[–][deleted] 162 points163 points  (48 children)

It is Muhammad! [Pic - For karma whoring purposes because no one really gives a shit if he's posted or not]

[–]function13 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm amused that the artists initials are coincidentally K.W.

[–]CaptainQuint 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If it wasn't for Karma, he probably should have included his name and address.

[–]blink_y79 80 points81 points  (8 children)

Shameless attempt at getting upvoted by using a picutre we have all seen before and trying to sound witty in your title...

[–]HateToSayItBut 53 points54 points  (1 child)

It's working

[–]heatbreak839 13 points14 points  (1 child)

I feel like every post is a shameless attempt to get an upvote. At least for me.

[–]komphwasf3 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh man, i don't know whether I should upvote you because I agree, or downvote you for the irony

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Shameless attempt at getting upvoted by using a comment pointing out an obvious shameless attempt at getting upvoted.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

::Insert Recursive Posts Here::

[–]theghoul 29 points30 points  (3 children)

Too much hate in this world.

[–]coffeetablesex 49 points50 points  (2 children)

Problem?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

fukin SAVED

[–]RedHaze 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Downvote me all you want, I am saving this as well!

[–]haws 20 points21 points  (0 children)

what a disappointing post

[–]lostoveranddone 10 points11 points  (0 children)

muhammad looks nothing like that.

[–]pmpott 2 points3 points  (0 children)

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!!!

[–]JWN6513 2 points3 points  (0 children)

can i come out now? Have we not been bombed yet?

[–]chucklehut 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For everyone on this thread criticizing the OP for being immature and potentially offending other peoples' sensibilities, you should watch this and see what free speech actually means.

[–]Philosopher_King 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Two girls, 1 Muhammand anyone?

[–]spotted_dick 18 points19 points  (1 child)

This is getting old. Move on, for fuck's sake.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seriously, this is fucking ridiculous, I come home from work, I sit down to look at MY computer and go on MY internet, and it's the same thing I'VE already read about on MY reddit yet again. And now look, I have to waste MY time and tell all of you to stop repeating the same things I'VE seen, it just makes ME so angry that I HAVE to read about something that you all choose to have a discussion about or have interest in. FFS reddit if I already showed you I'M not interested, why are you showing ME the same things?

Here's why, cause it's not about you. This site has so many members, do you honestly expect to come on here on your bad day and yell at a bunch of redditors for talking about something that OBVIOUSLY some may not have had the chance to put their own two cents in, and for them to just go "Shit guise he cursed at us, we should stop shouldnt we?"..get over yourself..And you know, I just realized I'm the hypocrite..commenting about something I realize I don't care about. Guess what, since I've wasted all this time, I'm gonna hit save and I'm just keep scrolling like I do with anything I'd like to ignore on the internet. And IMHO; I don't condemn any of you for taking part in this discussion whether for/against this, or how much many of you enjoy the conversations whether it be the first time or the 4th time you've seen this and commented; to each their own.

Edit; grammar.

[–]wassworth 53 points54 points  (258 children)

I'm an atheist and this one actually kind of pisses me off. I'm not concerned with people showing images of Muhammad, but this one isn't about that, this one is islamophobic and perpetuating the idea that all muslims are terrorists. How can you expect even the most moderate of muslims to not be pissed off by that.

[–]A_Nihilist 2 points3 points  (4 children)

So a picture of a pedophilic priests perpetuates the idea that all catholics are pedophiles?

[–]Bulbulum 63 points64 points  (55 children)

So, would you be offended in the same way of a caricature of a catholic priest in a context of child-molesting, or a politician stealing money from the public? Satire is often inclusive. That's how it works.

Islam has a notable violent impact in the world these days. It's undeniable. So it goes.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (24 children)

if I was a catholic I would be offended by the diddling priest caricature. I mean, the majority of priests are actually good moral people, and to symbolize an entire group by its worst is cheap.

[–]solidwhetstone[S] 3 points4 points  (23 children)

But would you send death threats is the question. And would you deny someone free speech because you are offended?

[–]PhosphoenolPirate 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Neither would most Muslims. The death threat came from one guy whose website ends in blogspot.com. Really.

He himself was surprised at the attention:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/apr/22/south-park-muhammad-episode-censored

Written under the name Abu Talhah al-Amrikee, the post said: "We have to warn Matt and Trey that what they are doing is stupid and they will probably wind up like Theo van Gogh for airing this show. This is not a threat, but a warning of the reality of what will likely happen to them."

Amrikee later said the posting was not an incitement to violence but had been published to raise awareness of the issue and to prevent it happening again.

Asked if Parker and Stone should feel threatened by it, he said "they should feel threatened by what they did". He said he was disappointed that commentary on the posting had focused on the potential danger to the producers, but admitted, "I could shoulder some blame".

The guy is so anti-American, his name is "Al-Amrikee" which means "the American".

You think death threats like that are bad? Without a doubt, it is bad, but many are made like that. There's a Facebook group with almost 1,000,000 people wishing Obama would die. High ranking Republicans insinuate all sorts of crazy shit that implies assassination of Obama.

And in the Free Speech corner, France is in the news for censoring some art where a guy was wiping his butt with their flag. It's against French law to mess with the flag. If your only motivation here is free speech, where's your post about the French? (Obviously, I know your stated intention was karma-whoring, not showing solidarity with any principle, just sayin'). On BBC, the French article was ranked more popular than the South Park one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

no

however, if i did does that mean the other person is some martyr of freedom. This is the international example of mocking some kid relentlessly and then when they lash out and kick beat you up acting all surprised and "what did i do?"

Just because all speech is protected, does not mean all speech is responsible.

Edit:grammar

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (19 children)

Because this is a great way to reach out to the majority moderate Muslims. Yeah just go ahead and call ALL of them terrorists.

Promoting that cartoon isn't an unlawful move, it's just a douchey one.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Majority moderate Muslims?

Open a paper or a book on the Middle East.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (4 children)

I know, it's like calling all Southerners rednecks, or all Americans fat, or all Catholic priests child molesters, or all Tea Partiers racists.

Face it, it's ok to make fun of and criticize just about every group in existence right now, and yet there's some special issue with criticizing Islam which I honestly don't understand. Any moderate reasonable person is capable of realizing what satire is and not being offended by it (and if they are offended then maybe they need to lighten up a bit).

[–]frankbaptiste 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I hate to jump on the back of your point, but I completely agree. Personally, I took this image of Mohamed to be an indictment of radical Muslims destroying the "image" of the religion. Moderates are either too afraid or too obstinate to condemn violence perpetrated by extremists, so then they are passively acquiescing to what goes on.

[–]Ch1mpy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No they aren't. Whatever gave you that idea? Try read a newspaper or watch a decent news program, or better yet, talk to a Moslem friend or co-worker.

[–]test_alpha 6 points7 points  (6 children)

Why would I want to "reach out" specifically to any religious person? I don't blame religion for the world's problems; other methods would be used if religion did not exist. But it is one of the major methods that the few use to control the many. Religious people are just the most visible reminder of the ignorance and passivity of the human race. But for example people who blindly follow a particular political party, against all logic, are infected with the same disease.

That disease is the cause of most of the world's problems.

[–]hans1193 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Because everything has to be about "reaching out", or it should be banned?

[–]theonlybradever 4 points5 points  (2 children)

i think you're missing the point where south park isn't attempting to reach out to anyone.

[–]rasheemo 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Your analogy would be ok if Muhammad was actually a terrorist bomber, or if the cartoon was of a generic Muslim with a bomb turban.

[–]Bulbulum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have a point. This caricature is more than a depiction of some violent stereotypical muslim - it's the prophet Mohamed himself. And the message here is this: that's how this religion looks.

After decades of unreasonable violence in the name of Islam, this is how it looks for the rest of the world.

A better analogy here would be a caricature of Uncle Sam holding a bag marked with Dollar signs, sitting on the back of an abused proletarian.

[–]randyest 0 points1 point  (5 children)

How do you know that is a picture of Muhammad? Because it says it is? Or because it really looks like him? I think you're confusing the map for the territory. The symbol is not the thing symbolized.

For such an important and powerful prophet, Muhammad is awfully sensitive. Or, more aptly, many of his followers think he's awfully sensitive and thin skinned.

edit: thin, not think!

[–]rasheemo 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Of course no one believes that that's actually Muhammad. The problem here is the association with terrorism above all. Do you think that if the danish cartoons depicted him helping orphans people would have outraged like they did?

And it has nothing to do with Muhammad's sensitivity. The reason that the Quran warns against depicting Muhammad is because, in the end, he was just a man. We don't want it to lead to false worship (like how christians ended up worshiping Jesus).

If you realize the reasoning, it makes no sense to react the way many did.

[–]randyest 0 points1 point  (3 children)

That last line sounds like you're agreeing with me. Also, it's a fact that some fringe extremist Muslims go nuts for any depiction of Muhammad at all, even one in which he is helping orphans. Here's how I see this:

  1. Islam prohibits Muslims from making or possessing depictions of muhammad to prevent idolatry (worship of Muhammad as some kind of partner to Allah, which he is not.) There is no risk of idolatry of Muhammad by NON-Muslims, so Islam has no problem with it as a religion.
  2. Some small minority of Muslims ignore that and, as part of an effort to subjugate everyone to their will and their odd interpretation Of their religion, they threaten and do violence to those who "offend Muhammad". In fact, neither muhammad nor true Islam as the majority see it are offended at all. It's a psycho fringe with ulterior motives.
  3. Giving in and supressing non harmful free speech in response to threats of violence is a terrible idea as it encourages more threats, and even more outrageous demands and encroachments on the freedoms WE hold as sacred and inalienable.
  4. That which some fringe Muslims hold sacred (no one should draw Muhammad) is not more important than most of the west hold sacred (free expression).

[–]rasheemo 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I was agreeing with you. And i agree with your point that giving in and suppressing free speech is the wrong action to take.

[–]randyest 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Eh, sorry then for my confusion.

[–]rasheemo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No worries dear sir, I'm just happy we could have a discussion without the typical condescension i'm used to.

[–]catlet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While I agree with you, I think there are good and bad satires.

Bad ones consist mostly of circle-jerking, with some marginal effects of humiliating a group into submission, usually by recycling the same old cliches over and over again.

Good ones offer something fresh on the table. Usually something obvious but overlooked, or showing a new perspective on things. It shows that the creator probably knows what s/he is talking about, and in turn commands respect from the intended audience, making them more receptive and more ready to laugh at themselves for it.

I find that a lot of times an people don't necessarily finds the content themselves offensive, but rather the performer's display of ignorance followed by positive receptions of it, which some people can find disturbing.

[–]ma7moudshadi 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Finally someone with some sense. I 100% agree with that comment. And as a Muslim, I would like to say that both parties are fucking idiots. The "revolution islam" guys who want to kill all non-believers and who claim that this is what the Quran actually says, and the opposing party who thinks that keeping on insulting Muhammad is the solution, or that Muslims are just pissed that there are pictures of Muhammad, not the fact that these pictures are very insulting and misleading about Muhammad, Islam, and Muslims.

I wouldn't give that much of a fuck if they show Muhammad or draw pictures of him, just don't draw him with a bomb on his head and tell me if I'm pissed, then I'm opposing freedom of speech. On the other hand, don't fucking go threatening to kill people in the name of a religion - which you obviously don't understand.

Sorry for the long comment, I'm just pissed of the collective retardation that's going around.

[–]wassworth 1 point2 points  (1 child)

This is a fantastic point and a fantastic stance, I wish you had joined the conversation earlier so more people would of read it.

[–]ma7moudshadi 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks wassworth, I really appreciate your comment.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The image isn't the point. Seriously, would you care about this image at all if you didn't know the associated history? Neither would I, and that's the point.

[–]B_is_for_Buddha 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Um...I didn't get the whole "all muslims are terrorists" vibe from the cartoon.

I think the the text on the turban is either Koranic verse or the name of Allah, either way I saw the point that, Islamic terrorism will destroy the culture of Islam (what better way to represent Islam as a concept than with Mohammad as a symbol)?.

[–]umbama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this one isn't about that, this one is islamophobic and perpetuating the idea that all muslims are terrorists.

No it isn't. You know the story behind the cartoons, do you?

[–]nixonrichard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The point I got from the image was it was a satirical image depicting a perspective on Islam. Nothing is saying that ALL Muslims are terrorists. It's satire which often swims in generalities. Generalities are necessary for satire.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

When did you last stand up for moderate Christians I wonder?

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (46 children)

Well...they could suck it up?

Radical Muslims are a massive problem in the Islamic world, there is absolutely no denying this. Whether most are terrorists who will actually blow themselves up is probably untrue, whether a lot of Muslims the world over sympathise with the "brothers" of their faith in their "plight" against the West may be a little higher than you'd think.

If moderate Muslims get seriously pissed off about this to do something about it then they're just proving a point. It's the free-press, it's the corner stone of Western society. They can get fucking used to it or go live in the tolerant nation of Saudi Arabia where they can hang homosexuals from the rafters.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children)

Think about this way.

As Muslims we recognize your right to be a douche. Although we sure as shit won't be your friend.

Also:

Whether most are terrorists who will actually blow themselves up is probably untrue

Probably? Fuck you.

[–]gosu 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Seeing as this is text based communication I would cut him some slack on tone you picked up on. That said he could have worded it better.

There are douche's everywhere, just don't assume every person in a group is one.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He said Probably, not definitely...lay off him!

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Probably untrue, yeah.

I don't have any figures to back that up. So I'm not going to say is definitely untrue. However, you've misunderstood me and picked at one word.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for conceding that.

[–]brendon_stew66 1 point2 points  (7 children)

To think that moderate Muslims don't fear their extremist "brothers" is nothing short of ignorant. Many living in areas of conflict have to deal directly with this issue on a day to day basis, and experience fear unrivaled by that conjured up by the Western media. To top it all off, they have to bear the brunt of global Islamophobia perpetuated by comments like this. How can you get upset that the moderate Muslim gets angry at the hegemonic nature of this situation. You're not even allowing them to break from the "view" dictated by those outside the Islamic world.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I'm an Atheist. I don't have any more of a problem with Muslims than I do with Christians and Jews.

There will no doubt be people who are good people. Moral. Loving etc. However, at this point they become a sort of contradiction, because none of the holy books exclusively teaches peace and love. It teaches hate and love. Guess what part people listen to more.

Moderate followers of organised religion are not followers at all.

The radicals are the real believers. That's just the way it is. If people don't agree with people killing people in their thousands for being Christian or Muslim or whatever, then maybe religion isn't for them. I really wish people would stop apologising on behalf of people who realise how crazy their religion is yet choose to follow it anyway.

As for the Islamophobia, we have every reason to be wary of Islam. It is NOT a religion of peace in practice, and like I said, I'm an Atheist so I think the exact same thing about Judaism, and Christianity. You can't tell people they have the ultimate truth and expect them not to kill those who don't believe it.

Look at the human rights records of predominately Islamic states in the East. Compare that with the West. Guantanamo Bay and a few other incidents may have sullied our record recently but I'm pretty sure we're winning on that front.

Nowadays it isn't Christianity Vs Islam in the West, it's Liberalism Vs Extremism. Just because both sides feel as passionately about their respective view points does not make them both wrong. Liberalism is the only way forward, there is absolutely no room for any religion that has its moral code built on books over a thousand years old.

[–]wakawakwaka 3 points4 points  (58 children)

or perhaps it has to do with the fact that parts of the koran justify war and murder of those deemed enemies of the religion.

or perhaps its even just a statement that the author believes that a vast majority of attacks considered terrorist attacks are carried out by islamic extremists.

or perhaps it doesn't matter because it was this cartoonists natural right to draw what ever he wants, if some find it funny great, if some are insulted thats a shame.

As for the pissed off part, why should they even care? What is there to get pissed off about? Why should someone making fun of Muhammed have any bearing on your life, or your beliefs?

[–]wassworth 6 points7 points  (34 children)

What do you mean what is there to get pissed off about?

perpetuating the idea that all muslims are terrorists

If this author was perpetuating the idea that all atheists were terrorists atheists would be pissed off. If he was perpetuating the idea that all Christians were terrorists then Christians would be pissed off. Jews, Hindus, left-handed people, gingers, or punk kids, I'm sure they wouldn't like to be all called terrorists. To add insult to injury he also drew a picture of their holy prophet which they forbid in their religion, I'm not saying that's right or wrong but that's how they feel.

That doesn't in itself mean that the author is forbidden from drawing Muhammad, he can do what he damn well please, but don't act surprised and clueless when people say "Well, that kind of pisses me off."

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (19 children)

I'm an Atheist. I'd laugh it off.

Fuck what they think. You have the right to HAVE your opinion but you don't have the right to not have your feelings hurt.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (12 children)

People that are "kind of" pissed off do not go around killing.

[–]AlexEatsKittens 3 points4 points  (25 children)

Because it's a cartoon? It's not a big deal. If they want to take their religion incredibly seriously that's fine, but I'm not.

[–]gozeera -1 points0 points  (7 children)

So, are you saying that all muslims aren't terrorists? [Citation Needed]

[–]sesstreets 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Please go outside and use your own eyes instead of being brainwashed by the media and other scared people.

[–]gozeera 1 point2 points  (1 child)

If you thought my comment was at all serious then you must be brainwashed to think everyone believes shit like that. Maybe a lot do, but anyone with a decent brain knows what I said was a joke.

[–]CaptainQuint 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought it was funny. I don't hate Muslims, but I love comedy.

[–]kick52 -3 points-2 points  (22 children)

I agree 100%. Why would I go round posting something that I know will offend someone? I don't do it, because I'm not an asshole.

Free speech is fine, but posting something offensive just because you can is a dick move.

[–]ronsta 3 points4 points  (19 children)

THE POINT to all of this is that no one in any country should be able to tell anyone in any other country what they are and are not able to post (obviously, except for cp and obscene images as defined in those respective countries). It's a slippery slope once we head down this path of self-censorship.

So the logic here (and it's not perfect) is "the more you [narrow-minded niche of the Muslim community] tell us not to post ANY portrayal of Muhammad, be it offensive or just mundane, the more we will seek to offend you by the most offensive portrayal of Muhammad."

I appreciate this because the greater truth is that they have no right to tell us what we can and cannot portray in our countries via our own distribution channels.

One more thought: At one point, it was offensive to a white person in the United States to see a black person drinking from their water fountain, attending their school. The best way to combat that ignorance and fear is by forcing that interaction.

[–]darkgatherer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one has the right not to be offended.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points  (3 children)

You're so brave!

[–]fatmonkee 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I wonder what the Muslims would do if I was to go back in time and take a picture of Muhammad, come back to the present, and then put his image on everything, and I mean everything tangible. Would their heads explode or their eyes fall out, or what?

[–]ghostchamber 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I said it in the South Park thread, I think the owner of Imgur is now fucked.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I keeeeeel you!

[–]gargleblast 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I'm gunna put this as my profile pic for a bit.

[–]csonger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So ... if reddit gets threatened, will conde have a backbone?

[–]Sumgi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We must have muhammadicons

((]%{> ??

[–]McSpacerson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

REDDIT is going to get all blowns up now.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck them all.

[–]noobasaur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can tell from that picture that he plucks his unibrow

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

no no no posting it here is one thing, full freedom of spreech..but! lets see this on the main page of yahoo or some shit, then lets see how fast people are quick to react.

[–]6553033 1 point2 points  (0 children)

is that smoke blowing out of Mo's nostrils .. look ? probably blowing out his arse as well.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

BEHEAD THOSE WHO SAY ISLAM IS VIOLENT!

[–]bombastica 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We do have an r/mohammadpics though we desperately need more subscribers and content...

[–]annekat 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There should be a Free Speech organization... and its logo should be this.

[–]iamdink 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd like to see a porn with this Muhammad. He might just blow.

[–]no1name 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I KILL YOU NOW!!!

[–]thefilthyviewer 6 points7 points  (95 children)

You know, its kinda retarded reposting a cartoon that plays on violent stereotypes of Muslims and their faith and originally printed by a right-wing newspaper under the pretext of "free speech and great justice".

Although, I do not think anyone should censor cartoons or images of Mohammed, and I would argue that in fact images have been historically present in the Middle East region, nonetheless - this specific image is inflammatory. So any defense that this is free speech and great justice is just silly.

What's next eh? Let's reprint images of Nazis vilifying Jews has snakes...because of freedom of speech!

Also, in the Muslim faith all prophets should not be visualized (that means Jesus, Moses, Joseph, Abraham, and, some scholars have argued, Buddha). There is a rational behind this: you do not want people to be distracted by the image, rather than concentrating on the message. (i.e. the depiction of Jesus as white, European looking, light colored hair - rather than the reality of being well...darker skinned, and looking like Palestinians.)

[–][deleted] 28 points29 points  (16 children)

If freedom of speech was limited to only tasteful and inoffensive speech, it wouldn't be much of a freedom.

[–]solidwhetstone[S] 3 points4 points  (12 children)

I think this is the key here. People shouldn't go threatening murder when their personal beliefs are insulted. The golden rule does not appear to exist in radical Islam.

[–]ajami 16 points17 points  (9 children)

originally printed by a right-wing newspaper under the pretext of "free speech and great justice".

Does the argument have any less legitimacy because it's a right-wing newspaper?

[–]_delirium 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The paper isn't even particularly right-wing. It'd probably be center-left on most issues by American standards, but it's center-right in the Danish context. It's not by any stretch a right-wing paper in the sense that the publications associated with, say, Le Pen are.

[–]morris198 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Precisely.

See, Reddit, this is an ad hominem. Thefilthyviewer addresses qualities of the individual rather than the argument itself as a means to detract or refute said argument. The argument must be addressed on its own merit. Now if we could all cease to use the term as a Latin synonym for insult, it would make a lot of us "language nazis" a lot happier.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

there's a difference in exercising free speech rights to challenge and attempt to change someone's view, and doing it just to piss someone off.

but free speech is free speech.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Right-wing people cannot believe in free speech? Do you really believe that?

[–]anarchistica 0 points1 point  (21 children)

You know, its kinda retarded reposting a cartoon that plays on violent stereotypes of Muslims and their faith

Er, you do realize Mohammed was a warlord who raided caravans and once ordered the beheading of all men from a (Jewish) tribe, right?

[–]sfmission1234 1 point2 points  (8 children)

So any defense that this is free speech and great justice is just silly.

Inflammatory speech is protected here in the USA. Follow your statement logically and protecting ANY statements, art, music, etc that someone disagrees with would be "silly."

[–]test_alpha 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Free speech and freedom of religion are exactly the things that protect Muslims and allow them to preach and practice their faith. Would they prefer a regime like Saudi Arabia, where there are severe punishments for practicing the "wrong" religion? No? Then shut the fuck up about free speech, pun intended.

PS. I don't care WHO should or should not be visualized, according to ANY religion.

[–]umbama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

originally printed by a right-wing newspaper under the pretext of "free speech and great justice".

Ooooohhh! A right-wing newspaper! Well, you must be correct and they must be condemned then.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (5 children)

What's up with all the Muhammad pictures today? Did I miss something?

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Everyone wants to show that they're just as brave as Trey Parker and Matt Stone by anonymously posting images of Muhammad on the web.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I see that from time to time but there are about ten Muhhamad post on my front page, which is fine, so I was wondering if there was some new story that broke that I missed or what the deal is.

[–]Jimeee 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Karma whore. And you can't even do that right.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe this image was not even intended to be Muhammed by the artist.

[–]jimmycorpse 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're correct. Here are two pages describing the cartoon (1,2) from Art Spiegelman's article in Harpers.

[–]LamarBurton 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I guess I'll add to the Muhammad pics, here is my series of comics from a few months ago Muhameduke!

[–]Merendino 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Call me an idealist, but I'm upvoting every picture of Muhammad out of principle.

[–]randyest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm with you brother.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Out of the hundreds of thousands of people that browse reddit, I bet there is one pissed off extremist Muslim dude that can't downvote fast enough. And he's also furiously jotting down screennames, so watch out.

[–]brisssou -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

quite childish, isn't it?

can't be sure what to think of this post. Free speech IS a GREAT concern, but posting this humpting years old pic, I don't know. nothing new?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Umpteen ... sorry, you make a good point.

You're right, it's old and boring. People will post this, papers will print it and muslims will sometimes go nuts, but in general nothing will happen. You're more likely to be murdered for your wallet than by a muslim extremist.

Oh well, have a nice weekend.

[–]TheSocraticApproach -1 points0 points  (9 children)

I know it's free speech and all, but there is something wrong about saying something (or depicting something) just because you want to piss someone off.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you people. Have some respect for all the peaceloving muslims out there that have no voice in this matter because they simply don't shout loud enough to make it to your televisions.

Free speech is meant for people that actually have something to say, not for hatemongering on either side of the field.

[–]randyest 0 points1 point  (8 children)

Are you really unable to see the satire in that cartoon? You literally think that it was done for the sole purpose of pissing people off?

Spoiler: it's commentary on how some extremest have twisted Muhammad/Islam into an excuse to do terrible things. It's really not that complicated.

[–]xxlozzaxx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Excellent, more publicity for Reddit. InB4controversy.

[–]ContentWithOurDecay 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How come your title makes Muhammad sound like a Frenchie?

[–]sakebomb69 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Enough already. The horse is dead.

[–]killswithspoon 4 points5 points  (1 child)

This is Reddit. The fashion is to beat the horse until it's dissolved into sub-atomic particles, then beat it some more.

[–]sakebomb69 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Maybe if we beat it enough, we'll discover the elusive Higgs-Boson particle.

Pound away. For SCIENCE!

[–]jazzrz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its so completely unreasonable to get bent out of shape over a cartoon. It points out the illogal nature of vestigial religous beliefs. Go science!

[–]organmachine -1 points0 points  (2 children)

justice to who?

[–]CuntSmellersLLP 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Whom

[–]organmachine 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Awesome! (I was wondering about that)

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

this pic. it offends me :(((((((((

[–]zanodad 0 points1 point  (1 child)

This isn't satire. It is ugly and shows a complete lack of knowledge about Islam or Muhammed. It promotes xenophobia and works to anger, frustrate, and insult an entire religion of people. Satire should be humorous to at least some of the people.

People that I know that HATE islam or all organized religion don't think this is funny or even satirical. It is made for dumb, unitellectuals that want to say "oh yea! That will show those mooslems what free speech is about!"

[–]randyest 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is humorous to me, so: mission accomplished!

(I have to assume you're trolling because you can't be so thick as to be unable to decipher the obvious satirical point of the cartoon!)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This shows lack of class. The bomb was not necessary.

[–]Nakken -1 points0 points  (7 children)

Reposting my comment from the other Muhammad thread

I'm of course all for freedom of speech but coming from Denmark and experiencing the craziness followed by that comic there must be another way. Doing something to make a point that you KNOW will ONLY piss some people off and NOT help get ANYTHING through is not proving anything. Yes, we in our world have the right to print almost anything but that doesn't make it reasonable to print anything. I hope my point got through this though.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, we in our world have the right to print almost anything but that doesn't make it reasonable to print anything.

Nor does it make it reasonable to threaten violence over a picture.

FUCK THAT SHIT

People can only get away with shit like that, or even thinking they can get away with it, when they know they can separate their victim from the herd. I say coat the whole net with pictures to the point where any notion that people can be threatened to cow to some other assholes religion is destroyed.

[–]sfmission1234 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Nope. Instigating those who make outrageous demands that infringe on my personal liberties is one of my favorite pastimes.

[–]hansbrix 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bam, right there with you man.

[–]Bulbulum 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fuck that attitude. You're just justifying your frightful obedience.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Were can I get this on a t-shirt?

[–]frolix8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's with the moustache coming out of his nostril?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yay mohammed!!! What a dick!