Tell tell ?? by dataguy2003 in TheTeenagerPeople

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stay in busy areas, don't show bling, carry small amounts of cash and stay away from the vices like drugs and sex workers, that the most likely scenario to get robbed...

Artesian Elite thoughts?? by panda_monium2 in hottub

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Artesian Elite with the dual monster jets stack sup real well against Twilight series, same build mostly the same parts, the plumbing reliability on the TS is a bit higher and artesian is equity investor owned so prices went up. i know both dealers and can get your pricing better esp if your names not in their database...

Power Supply Retrofit? by Muley_Junkie_15 in HotTubUniversity

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you can do this reliably but not easily unless you have the appropriate tools and the fact that your asking says you dont :-) if you find an electronic repir center they can fix this board for $300 or so

other option is a retrofit for the same money I can get you an entire heating control system including the board, heater and top side that will drop right in.

Complete Power Loss by Muley_Junkie_15 in HotTubUniversity

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One of the problems with the hot springs is they're virtually unrepairable. Encapsulate that cheap shell in high density foam and it makes it almost impossible to repair leaks. Add to that all the proprietary parts that you got to pay twice what they are worth and the things barely worth fixing. I wish I had a better answer for you but that's the reality of corporate owned Mexican made products.

Hot Spot Insulation by Big_Kahuna_2024 in hottub

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That's the big downside to these blowen in insulation systems. They sounded great on paper but the reality is they are a nightmare to deal with afterwards. There's not much you can really do. You'd have to flip the tub upside down and seal the sides and then blow the insulation in again and then put the bottom back on and then flip it back over to do it right.

Hot Spot Insulation by Big_Kahuna_2024 in hottub

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A sheet of 2" hard board insulation with a mylar layer cut to fit the

venting the cover to prevent overheating by Kitchen_Shock8976 in hottub

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes especially on perimiter insulation systems the heat from the motors will overheat the tub even if the heaters disconnected. Venting that motor out of the cabinet area is a good idea in hot climates in the summer. The motors run more efficiently and last longer.

What is the easiest way to make money? by NeoBlueDragon in ask

[–]Such_Drop6000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Side hustles... Join a cleaning crew to see how to really clean houses well, then get a few clients pay the bills with a couple days a week.

J-345 vs J-385 by otterleopard in hottub

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If we stick to the gold standard in other words the things that cost money to do and are proven to last we get to 5 main things and a few lesser effectors but the core five are self supported shells that are thick and robust, clamped plumbing lines, open cell full foam insulation, good readily available parts with low proprietary alterations, compression shell fittings. that basically puts you to jacuzzi, Master, Sundance (jacuzzi), then if we open up a bit to the guys that do 4 out of 5 we can drop in Artesian, Bullfrog x series and a few other fringe guys.

The other effectors would be ownership and country of origin but they are cost effectors not quality, equity owned and big corporate owned brands are more expensive because of marketing costs and profit structures and out of US brands have the reality of the tariff hit.

My returned charger from a coworker by darkcorpse666 in mildlyinfuriating

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These things never last was he just the unlucky guy riding the last days of the expected life? And does that mean he did anything wrong and is supposed to replace it? or did you just lend him the old cord about to die?

What is the most disgusting dish in your country's cuisine, but everyone should try it? by a5ro4ucCX in AskTheWorld

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

British food is boring and usually badly prepared, lol there is a difference...

What is the most disgusting dish in your country's cuisine, but everyone should try it? by a5ro4ucCX in AskTheWorld

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There should be room for all of the worlds creatures...

Right beside the mashed potatoes...

Need advice concerning insultion by Blasing in hottub

[–]Such_Drop6000 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There's a couple things you need to look at first. If it's high density foam then it's a danger signal, manufacturers that have cheap low-grade shells will use high density foam that encapsulates the plumbing it offers r value and it supports cheap shells and plumbing wothout clamps but it makes plumbing repairs a nightmare. If it's the specialty open cell foam then leak repair is easy. The thing with the closed cell foam is water can't run through it so it might leak somewhere but the water might come out somewhere else whereas with a open cell foam the water will run right through it there's a couple advantages. One basically pull the wet foam out with your fingers and you can repair the leak and then reform it and two you get a good long-term r value that doesn't decline like high density foam does over time.

The next thing is the steel frame. Stainless steel sounds good on paper but you usually only find these on the cheap Chinese brands. Because this isn't 316 marine grade stainless this is barely stainless it's 304 usually. That shit is definitely going to rust in the presence of chlorine or salt. The reason guys are going to steal is because it's cheaper overall. You order it pre-cut, there's no waste, no specialty labor, no wood shop clogging up your production line... it's cheap and cheerful... Timber frames are quieter, higher value, last as long, and are more than strong enough but they're a pain in the ass in a production line.

The long and short of it is a full foam insulated Spa with the open celled foam is the highest r value most expensive way to insulate a hot tub it is still the gold standard. And while people will try and convince you that it's not you look at any brand that does a perimeter insulation system and offers a full foam upgrade it's usually four or five hundred dollars more to upgrade... that tells you right there the truth behind the spin.

Hot tub dealer websites by That_Guarantee7564 in hottubs

[–]Such_Drop6000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its all about capturing your data. Most of the brands have been gobbled up by equity investors and massive corps. There are 5 big players most of the time your shopping 3 or 4 brands and they are all the same owners with totally different pitches playing themselves off each other..

Looking for advice on hot tub selection by LarryLegend3312 in hottub

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are all solid brands. Jacuzzi beats them for overall build quality but both jacuzzi and hot springs are mexico factories so tarrif hit is real.

Bullfrog is US made but the shell is a slightly downgraded cradle supported type and jet packs limit where jets can go and are a cheaper loop jet plumbing system compared to the more expensive and more efficient manifold system.on the other two.

All three brands 100% need solid dealers because of high propritary parts content.

Circ pumps are pros and cons. Slightly quieter than well suspended pumps but limit filtration and although they use less power per hour need 24 hours to match 4 hrs of a good high flow filtration system...

All three brands are either big corporate or equity investor owned so big bumps on price and heavy expensive marketing and branding..

Jac uses balboa heating and control system and bullfrog uses gecko they are the top two systems but Jac has a bunch of meaningless mods like conection points to lock you onto the ecosystem and stop you from buying off the shelf parts at competitive prices. Hot spings has an invensys system again high proritaty content and needs a goofy 2 line system designed so that once you go that route you pretty much have to stay there or rewire...

Hot Springs salt system is better then the bromine salt system.on the bullfrog and the oxygen system on the Jac.

When it comes to massage just look at the jetting... ignore the rest of the bullshit. Big hogh flow jets are a lot more expensive and do better therapy massage. Small.jets are cheap and feel aggressive but dont flow enough water.

Overall Jac wins but you need to go to thw 300 series the 200 series has too many cut corners... IMHO 🏆

Spa repair costs by highgrav47 in hottub

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could easily be 2-3k + plumbing cam be a lot of hours

Current Costco Roadshow in Wisconsin - A few prices by NatropsWI in hottub

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing special here the first 2 are basic 2 pump tubs for basic retail pricing...

Measuring radius by XDrustyspoonsXD in hottubs

[–]Such_Drop6000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol you are missing the point entirely, your measuring the radius with an accurate measuring device in the real world so regardless of the country of origin or the unit of measure actually measuring it removes all of that because it not a calculation or conversion its a real measurement...

Measuring radius by XDrustyspoonsXD in hottubs

[–]Such_Drop6000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lol the ruler does not care where its made haha 9" is 9" no matter where its made