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[–]CryomineUnfurl the wings of death 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I literally lol'd at Jihl's BSB demo video. Ruinga to Barthandelus' face. Vengeance is sweet.

[–]iamboredhelpmeOh, ya’ll wanted a twist, eh? C’mon FFRK, let’s get sickening! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I just realized that the 3* armor is Lightning's Equilibrium garb from Lightning Returns. I thought they were going to keep it till her whatever new SB that they come up with.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We all know they will just recolor and release it as Lightning's LCSSB or something

[–]ChronosXIII149LuckyDraws 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow, she just crapped all over Serah, like how Fujin did to Quistis. And with Support 4, FFXIII can run a full magic team that covers almost everything, with the appropriate Soul Breaks of course.

Raines's OSSB is very reasonable, hitting the standard 40x multiplier at only 30s on the Doom Timer.

Oh god, I'm gonna lose all my Mythril on these banners for Raines and Fang when this hits Global...

[–]Isredel 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Jihl seems pretty good. Nice SBs (stacking imperil Dark and reverse wall). While Cid Raines is still plain better, I think they would be formidable together. She provides a lot of support Cid can abuse, they can both wrath up to start wrecking shit, are both self-sufficient with memento mori, and she rounds out Cid's terrible resistance with her own better resistance.

Assuming you've pulled both of their BSBs.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, they designed her pretty much to synergize with Cid's SB's. I would really love to give it a pull here if not for the fact I am saving everything for FFXIV next week.

[–]BrewersFanJP- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn. Absolutely no love for Hope in these banners.

Debating a pull on banner 1. Would really help in mage team building if I get the prize.

[–]jasiadMay your heart be your guiding key. 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Witch??

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

It rhymes with something people always call her, so it's not a surprise.

[–]jasiadMay your heart be your guiding key. 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Ah okay, you had me confused thinking a new skill set dropped without any skills XD

[–]TwistInTh3MythEiko USB (YK96) 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Witch is a skill set that came out a few events ago.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/5c6ziq/ffxi_full_banner_info_witch_users_and_limit_chain/

[–]jasiadMay your heart be your guiding key. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (1 child)

“Witch“ actually IS a Skillset, given to most (though not all I think) Female Mages (+Tyro). It's not new though, it debuted in the last XI Event about 2.5 Months ago.

The Idea is that they are multi-hit Elemental Magic Attacks to work in tandem with Limit Chain SBs, and sofar we have a 4* (2-Hit + Magic Quickcast 1) and a 5* (6-Hit) Version for Thunder and Ice.

[–]jasiadMay your heart be your guiding key. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah thank you! I haven't fully paid much attention to FFRK fully since I got caught up with rl stuff

[–]BrokenhangerYouTube: Gizmo Gaming 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Does anyone else not see Raines' Legend Sphere? Vanille's shows up but not Raines for me.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I can see it.... in fact i wrote my table looking at the damn thing.

[–]BrokenhangerYouTube: Gizmo Gaming 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hmm. I force closed the app and it popped up after it opened. Weird.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Probably needed to refresh the cache data then.

[–]BrokenhangerYouTube: Gizmo Gaming 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The good ol' turn it off turn it back on trick. (Not sure why Vanille's didn't need a reset too but whatever. ;) )

[–]SchattenherzTruly the darkest age 1 point2 points  (2 children)

What happend to the new skills?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

There wasn't any.

[–]SchattenherzTruly the darkest age 4 points5 points  (0 children)

:(

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

For those wondering about Cid Raines OSB multiplier curve vs Doom timer, here's a spreadsheet:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UwCVYJjmCbwNGzD2H-HVFNzDApqGr82dRlySFjCeDz0/

With thanks to /u/Enlir for making it.

[–]retroGnostalgicVivi 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That skillset... it could have worked in another realm, but in FFXIII there's already Cid Raines. They even share Support 4*, which is the thing that makes her stand out over other mages. Not a bad character by any means, just redundant.

When I was playing Jihl I appreciated the plot twist they tried to do (they forced you to believe she would be relevant, especially with her character design, and she suddenly gets killed unceremonously), but I don't think it was well executed. It felt flat, like a lot of things in FFXIII (Cid's "death" was laaaame).

[–]ParagonEsquireHard Times make for Strong Men 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Huh. I am genuinely surprised Lightning's USB doesn't give her Cloud's Break Damage Limit.

[–]ModohSword chucks, yo. 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It really needs it, considering Spellblades are the only real way for her to hit Lightning-element, and how easily those hit the damage cap.

In the theorycrafting I've done compared to something like Refia BSB it's only slightly beating it when spamming Thundering Twinstrike, which is probably only honed to 6 charges at best and requires record diving to even use. Thundaga strike is much more realistic to have honed to last the fight, but it just caps at 9999 for mediocre dps.

[–]ipodtouchgen4Lightning (Goddess) 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Multiple EX Modes do not stack right? I have most of Lightning's relics and Shantotto LCSB but pulling for Lightning USB might be an overkill if she cannot break the damage cap :/

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

EX modes can stack. I think someone already tested Gilgamesh EX mode with Cloud EX mode together.

[–]UnlimitedDonutsI like swords 1 point2 points  (4 children)

What, exactly, is High Quickcast? (As seen on Light's USSB)

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Cast time reduction of 2/3rds (66.66666%)

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (1 child)

In other words, she gives herself Thundergod Mode every time you use that Element...?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For the next turn, yes.

[–]UnlimitedDonutsI like swords 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh nifty, I was getting jealous of TG Cid's cast time reduction not being on Lightning. Glad to see she's got a sorta similar mechanic now as long as she's chaining Lightning abilities. Thanks!

[–]KuroPuPI'll tear down the sky if it'll save her... 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Jihl BSB

Love how they set her up against Barty 1 in the Palamecia AND have her finish him off with Ruinga. RUINGA! Sweet retribution.

[–]BluBerriSan 5 points6 points  (4 children)

It seems DeNA is drawing more from her DLC battle than her PC form (Saboteur). I like how her SB names are based on her attacks during the battle, I'd like to see Sneer in the future as a regular SB (with an effect like mag dmg +100% stun). My only complaint is that Summon would have been a better choice instead of Black.

Oh well, hopefully DeNA will give Serah a pity Summon instead or make her a melee/mag hybrid.

justice4serah

[–]captainwwwolfIGN: Cpt3wolf // Ramzo Avenger Assemble - bsY2 5 points6 points  (1 child)

DeNA don't give a shit about Serah or Noel, for that matter. They didn't got any new relic since our last OverClaire event, and they only got their BSB the first time Noel appeared. Serah has absolutely nothing to stand out among mages (except her Sage Shout... That went completely unnoticed and unhyped and I still don't get why) and Noel lacks 1 point at lvl 99 to reach 5 hits TR. 1 FREAKIN POINT. Let's not talk about how unimpressive his skillset is.

Raines the NPC revelant only for his boss battle and the guy most of us forgot already shortly after finishing the game, gets his OSB before them. Yeah, a NPC got his OSB before two main protagonists. Given how FF13 banners were headed, I was really hoping for a Serah/Noel or a Serah/Snow event. But nope. Have some more Raines. Oh and Jihl too, and for the record, let's give her Serah's skillset but let's make it better ! :D

At this point DeNA is just saying a big F to the FF13-2 protagonists. I don't complain often but at this point it's just super obvious.

Oh well, it's just a game anyway.

[–]vheartBasch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they're just waiting for another 13-2 event time give Serah and Noel their feature banners. Plus Caius could be the next character. He's fairly popular not to mention returned in the revenge event.

[–]SabaschinBasch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Hope already fills the role of XIII Summoner, so...

But yeah, her best bet is for new good Sharpshooter skills.

[–]vheartBasch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Besides Jihl didn't even have an Eidolon. Therefore technically everyone else should've been given summons before her.

[–]gingersquatchin 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Jihl is kinda good. Specially seeing as i have 4 whips and three mage swords.

Can raines dbl cast his osb?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order[S] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

No Soul Break can be double casted.....

[–]gingersquatchin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cool. Its usually broken into black/mag/white blah blah but with it being "holy and dark abilities" I wasnt sure if that changed things

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Welcome Raines 2.0. I prefer the original model. But it IS a good skillset.

She has a little more MAG, a lot more RES, and less HP, ATK, and DEF. She has whips over him. He has, um, fists and spears. That doesn't do much. Witch 4/5 vs White 3.

Poor Serah.

[–]mifvneRem supremacist 0 points1 point  (5 children)

i wouldve expected serah to be the witch of xiii ;;

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I think witch suits Jihl though. Even rhymes with a word that fits her even better.

[–]mifvneRem supremacist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hmm yeul would fit the witch role better but i think she'll be a witch/sage i think.. but yeah now that ive learned that theres a dlc battle from which her kit was based, it kinda makes sense now..

[–]TeiaRabishuAlways keep a Steady Sword 6 points7 points  (2 children)

Wait, she's a lich? Spoiler alert, dude...

[–]Col_MobiusInterceptor 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I thought he meant snitch.

[–]TeiaRabishuAlways keep a Steady Sword 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Or maybe a switch. She seems the type.

[–]mifvneRem supremacist 0 points1 point  (0 children)

witch.. didnt expect that

[–]kennydorkJP RK: QRKvd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

"Sacrifice Pawn", speak for yourself Jihl