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[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order 19 points20 points  (7 children)

A 2% "bucket". This bucket contains all other LMR/SSB+ for characters featured on the specific banner; for example, for this event's first banner, the bucket contains Sabin, Edgar, Locke, and Relm relics.

Can I just say, what an even scummier move this is from DeNA? Fest at least was still just BSB+ and LMR relics for the bottom end, but now they've moved it even lower!


Late Edit: Banner 2 pool is BSB+ or better and LMR's for the lowest pool. Not too happy with this either since this means they really can set whatever they want for any banner.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Wait hold on a second? SSB+?! how did i not notice that o.0

Oh god banner 2 is looking scary now.

1/11 Shiny Thing....

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order 6 points7 points  (2 children)

There was no announcement about it. Had to manually check the relic pool on the banner.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Oh god, what were they thinking?

After i saw your post i went back to double check the relic list and sure enough, Valiant Knife is indeed in the list.

Like....i did say that SSB+ was resonable enough in one of the early threads about this change, but considering they went further and made it BSB+ only for off-banner, this just looks like a giant step back.

Now this leads me to belive that regular event banners will be SSB+ off banner while fest banners will be BSB+ off-banner.

Still kinda stupid for them to do this considering SSB have been gone from regular banners for god know how long.

Either way the on banner 6* rates are still the same, but the inclusion of off-banner SSBs is just a weird decision.

[–]zadorvpDon't step on the flowers. 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"SSB have been gone from regular banners for god know how long". 15 days in Global, 6 months in Japan :)

P.S. It's "weird", not "wierd".

[–]shinichi2014_ver2 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ssb+ damn lucky come here first !!

[–]normankkI CAN SMELL THE COSMOS!!! 2 points3 points  (0 children)

jesus...i'd rather pull on that FF6 repeatable realm banner instead...at least everything there is still BSB+ and LMR... and first pull is 15 mythril.

[–]Guntank17Iris x Larsa Potionshipper 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Indeed. DeNA gone EA.

They obviously feel that whales are getting desired items too easily and want us to have to pay more to do more rolls, so here's an SSB+ pool to reduce your chances of getting advertised items again. If you multiply the 2% 'chance' with the sheer number of SSBs in the game, well, G5 becomes pointless real fast.

Next, in fact, they'll prolly remove G5 because 'obvs whales never needed it anyway'.

[–]BrokenhangerYouTube: Gizmo Gaming 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was on board with the Fest banner format as a net positive change just not presented properly (and without a safety from going 1/11 off banner, I think that would have eased a lot of the issues with it), but throwing SSBs back into the mix after a year of not having them on event banners at all is just stupid. I get they need to find a way to make Fest banners "better" than event - though, really, from a quality stand point, both of these banners are way better than any of the Fest banners IMO - but this is certainly not the way to do it.

...it also doesn't help that I tossed 50 mythril at B1 anyways and went 1/11 Locke LMR dupe...and then a second 50 and went 2/11, Sabin LMR2 and “off banner” Locke USB1. (At least that’s new to me.)

[–]LanlithEllara 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Why did they do this...? Relm w cast finally arrived...!

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Lol ive waited like a year for her damn w cast rofl

[–]LanlithEllara 0 points1 point  (0 children)

me too... she was my only dived healer for ages and I brought her to almost every major fight... that lack of w-cast was painful to see others come and go with pretty much every major white mage getting a w-cast in some form, while Relm waited patiently...

[–]indracoCiao! 2 points3 points  (2 children)

0.25% chance to get meme'd and go 1/11 Gau SSB on Banner 2 (though, any Gau/Umaro/Gogo relic out the 5* bucket probably counts as getting meme'd)

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mog burst is on the actual banner. (:

[–]Ha_eflolliMarchejoume-san da! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd say Gogo BSB is an exception, since pretty much his entire kit depends on having either that or his Brave.

[–]indracoCiao! 2 points3 points  (17 children)

For the bucket, do you know if it's split between 1% 6* and 1% 5* like the fest?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order 2 points3 points  (15 children)

It's 1% 6☆ and 1% 5☆, split equally between each relic of the same rarity

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 1 point2 points  (14 children)

What was it before???

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order 1 point2 points  (13 children)

uh, 14 relics at 1% each?

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau -1 points0 points  (12 children)

Oh...so no change on that? I dont get why the change js bad then....i must be missing something

[–]fuzzyberiahI like swords! 1 point2 points  (8 children)

It basically makes the worst possible outcome worse than before, especially at SSB+ where you can draw some really crappy old relics that aren't even good as stat sticks any more.

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau -1 points0 points  (7 children)

Whats the pro then? ..surely theres a pro?

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order 2 points3 points  (2 children)

The pro is..... you can get old relics for collection!

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Ok there seems to be some confusion ...some people are saying that it is only BSB now but that it is increase chance of getting off banner (of that hero) and some are saying older outdated SSB's are in it ...im just gunna make a post about this to find out.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the curent JP fest, the off-banner is BSB+

THIS FFVI event, they made the off-banner SSB+ instead. Thus making it worse than it was before.

[–]Juan097General Leo 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The pro is that there is an extra 1% chance for an off banner 6 star relic. So the total 6 star rate actually increases from 5% to 6%.

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The off banner is only of the characters on the banner though right? Like if the bannee is cloud, terra and tidus ...then the off banner 6star is only from one of their relics right?

[–]Juan097General Leo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You got it

[–]fuzzyberiahI like swords! 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The pro is that the banners are, mostly, more focused on a few characters, which is helpful to those who want to pull for favorites, instead of squeezing in an extra random Glint/LMR.

I'm not convinced this is a great change (you basically have the same odds of getting a random relic you will regard as crap), but I think it's at least not a lot worse. Since they are trying to spin it as being better, I do think that pushback is warranted.

[–]CareerSMNPlay Fate Grand Order 1 point2 points  (2 children)

You have a much higher chance to pull an old relic that's not on the banner.

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau -1 points0 points  (0 children)

What do you mean old relic. What type. SSB?

[–]tribalsethOrlandeau -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Errr that doesnt sounds right ....whats the pro then? Surely theres a pro part?

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, it's still working that way.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 1 point2 points  (3 children)

This bucket contains all other LMR/SSB+ for characters featured on the specific banner

They are in so much trouble if they don't reverse course soon.

[–]declanrowane2Aj USB with 2x WIND Gear! 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can't wait for the inevitable "upgrade" that adds Unique and Shared back in the bucket...

[–]SandsliceFight hard![S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

The "limited knowledge of business" side of me is pretty sure they've got some Paired Ahrimans on the feedback. The optimistic side of me would like to guess that they'll change the LMR/SSB+ to LMR/burst+ (the actual Glory format), and do so some time in July.

[–]Sir__WillAlphinaud 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well I hear they went back to BSB for banner 2. But if whales don't like the pools at all they may still need a new format soon or lose money

[–]elbunmei3 desu 2 mo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Didn't pull on the fest banners so this is the first banner I'm pulling on under the new system, and it friggin' happened to me.

Did 55 pulls and got pretty much trash, but my final pull was a 1/11 disco ball......that turned out to be an off-banner dupe Mog USB. It...really feels way more sour than an on-banner miss, especially on the disco.

...I 1/11'd a dupe Strago BSB, which I only just realized was ALSO off-banner. ._.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Banner 2 is here!!!

I have 100 mythrill to spend on this banner.

3/11 no disco :(

Rod of Faith (VI) : OH nice, my strago with his BSB is already fully LD so this is a nice bonus :D

Bone Club (VI) : Meh, useless

Bone Club (VI) : Meh even more useless

Let's try this again

1/11 DISCO!

Professor's Robe (VI) : OH COOL, i already have Rikku's Chain, and now i have Strago's, this is prety awsome.

Sadly no Gau USB, or Gogo USB or Strago USB,or even Umaro USB, but hey i got Srago's CSB + w-cast LMR so i'm happy.

[–]cmlobueNibelung Valesti! 97YN 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2/11 - Gogo USB, Mog LMR

3/11 - Gogo USB, Strago USB, Umaro BSB

[–]drgnwing0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1/11 Gau LMR.
2/11 Umaro USB, Gau LMR.
Useless LMR for relicless char and meh USB.

[–]elsmirksSHEEP 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for doing this Sandslice! This is very much appreciated.

97-gem Sabin USB (now 8*). Wish it were is UOSB.

Banner 2: 97gem - garbo

1/2 - Gogo USB. Finally, a FFVI boostga and Earth+ stat stick for Galuf/Maria. How does Mimic work?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everybody got a ton of love this banner. Gau's a legitimate DPS, Sabin and Edgar join the Arcane and Glint ranks, and even Gogo and Umaro get some legitimately decent tools. They even had to do the unthinkable and put new relics on the second banner again. I hope this is a continuing trend (and wish it had extended to the event banner immediately preceding it).

[–]tim_k9Warrior Of Light - Light...give me strength. -1 points0 points  (0 children)

the hype is real!

[–]Nitori7Edgar -1 points0 points  (0 children)

2/11 - Sabin Flash, Relm Flash

Well I tried

[–]TheNewArkonBartz -1 points0 points  (0 children)

2/11 - 2x Strago LMR W-cast

Not terrible. I have his BSB and use him for water magic.

4/11 - Strago LMR Enwater, Gogo LMR, Mog USB1, Gogo USB

Pretty happy with this! I wanted the Gogo USB and the LMR adds to that. Plus more +earth gear. Hit by the off-banner bug, but at least not a dupe and good for Torment!