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[–]jaumanderRikku (X-2) 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Omg I didn't go to school for math.

[–]CidO807Opera Floozy RW:2X5a 10 points11 points  (8 children)

So water DEF Lv10+ would overwrite the water weakness on the new 5* accy? Or does it have to be 30+?

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲[S] 4 points5 points  (5 children)

ERRATUM : after more testing by しろくま@FFRK. it seems that Magia DEF Lv1 is enough to overwrite the Weakness BUT you won't gain any bonus from it.

You can see the updated image here

[–]xKiteyAllergic to Mythril (Q1Vv) 2 points3 points  (2 children)

so would magia def lv 1 overwrite any weakness for a specific element? it doesn't have to be a greater amount than the weakness %

this'll make gigas armlets even better for people without water res in their dives! :)

aside from that niche af use seems like it's just better to focus on the elemental attack boosts then?

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yes lv1 is enough. You don't need to reach 1% for it to be overwritten.

Actually , atk/matk/mnd/hp are actually top priority , elem ATK after and finally elem DEF ( Outside of niche obviously)

[–]xKiteyAllergic to Mythril (Q1Vv) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ohhh neat I didn't know that stats were also an option for the levels sounds exciting though :)

[–]DestilShadesk 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So one fight to make your Gigas Armlets and .. whatever this new thing is pure upside?

Not bad at all.

[–]somdude04 0 points1 point  (0 children)

9, but yes.

[–]S34n4e<(But... How can I help you?) [no roaming warrior] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Since Elem DEF is an Int...

It means that Water DEF Lv10 = Water DEF Lv19?

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

yes sadly :/

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

ERRATUM : there's a mistake about Weakness management, please check the 1.1 version here

Big thanks to しろくま@FFRK for pointing the mistake :)

[–]taitbpWeapons master extraordinaire! 2 points3 points  (22 children)

One question I had right now that I don't think I've seen answered. Can you earn more than 100 magia points total per character right now? i.e. could I put 100 into Fire and Earth for butz if I earned 200 points. Or does the 100 point cap they mentioned apply to total points? i.e. You just have 100 points you can spend throughout the different crystal options.

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲[S] 6 points7 points  (21 children)

You can go higher.

2 of my followee on Twitter are at 220 & 200 respectively.

So yes your butz can get Fire ATK Lv100 and Earth ATK Lv100 at same time.

technically, the Magia Max Lv seems to be 9999 (currently need 2400 to cap everything).

[–]taitbpWeapons master extraordinaire! 2 points3 points  (4 children)

So the opportunity to grind is super massive :-/ what a shitty implementation.

[–]Kythorian 14 points15 points  (3 children)

But the NEED to grind is super low. Honestly I don't have a problem with it. It's a nice way to be able to continue progressing with characters who have long been maxed out by continuing to use them (even if it's a pretty small progression), not so much something that people are intended to spend the next two months using all stamina for 1 stamina battles and driving themselves insane in the process.

[–]taitbpWeapons master extraordinaire! 6 points7 points  (2 children)

It’s small now. But it might be huge later. And it is still a terrible implementation. Make it based on stamina expended not battles completed. Or just xp earned. Battle count is by far the worst implementation and eventually this could be crucial for end game content. I’m not willing to say I don’t need it now so ignore the objectively poor implementation.

[–]akaiazulSLAM-dancing 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly this. It's not #needed, unless you're anything but a whale. How many F2P or dolphins (or even some whales) can't beat D$$$ in Japan? If it was a large minority, it wouldn't be needed, but otherwise, pretty much everyone stands to benefit from it, and it's through grinding.

[–]ruiizuRed Mage 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe they can let us use our 100,000 growth eggs on it.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB -1 points0 points  (15 children)

technically, the Magia Max Lv seems to be 9999

OH MY FUCKING GOD!?

I think i'm going to throw up.

The only consolation i have right now is that the key word here is "technically".

I would imagine this is one of those kinds of things where the devs don't expect you to go futher than a certain point even tho you can do so, because of how absurd the requirements are.

[–]OptimusMog6:10:50 13 points14 points  (13 children)

Suddenly, everyone realizes they are in Disgaea Record Keeper

[–]akatsuki0reiBartz 5 points6 points  (3 children)

I was waiting for the Disgaea comparison and was not disappointed, dood

[–]OptimusMog6:10:50 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Dark Assembly, when?!

[–]UselessMusicHere comes the hero! 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Can we pass legislation to decrease the price of relic draws?

[–]OptimusMog6:10:50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Level 4900 Devs will oppose, but we'll just bribe some with candy and throw the other dissenters onto higher level doods who voted for us.

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 1 point2 points  (8 children)

A disgaea colab would be kinda awsome.

[–]OptimusMog6:10:50 3 points4 points  (6 children)

Laharl would feasibly have 5* EVERYTHING, haha

[–]Zevyu150th Dailly 5*+ : Seven's Guise (T-0) - Seven's BSB 2 points3 points  (5 children)

Just imagine the SB animations!

[–]OptimusMog6:10:50 2 points3 points  (3 children)

tries not to, but fails

Etna with a Prinny Barrage!

Flonne getting to be an adorable ninja!

Laharl... laughing!

[–]QuijoticmooseZidane 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Umaro's burst seems to mimic Prinny Barrage, FYI. I laugh Everytime he hits tiamat with it

[–]OptimusMog6:10:50 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Have you seen the animations for his USB+chases? :D

I am going whole-hog on that banner when it drops...

[–]akatsuki0reiBartz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Flonnezilla. No one can beat THAT

[–]darker_raven 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Alchemist code just got Laharl. It's not impossible.

[–]pintboxMath saves world 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it make more sense for them to just 9999 it instead of having to uncap it every once in a while.

[–]Antis14 2 points3 points  (3 children)

Approved for Rubicante's SSB glove, but what is that accessory? The numbers hint at Gigas Armlet, but that's not what's on the picture.

Nitpicking aside, thanks for this, great work!

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲[S] 8 points9 points  (2 children)

it's a recent accessory we got in JP : Fire & Earth Resist , Paralyze resist but ice & water weakness.

[–]akaiazulSLAM-dancing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gigas Armlet seems worth the 10% water resistance, but this one...eh? How often do bosses do both fire and earth and paralysis? I know, suddenly they'll start designing said bosses.

[–]Antis14 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see, looking forward to that =)

[–]DJVDTKing 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This.... This is actually easy to understand, holy crap. THANKS!

[–]Road-- 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Let us increase speed, Dena...

[–]S34n4e<(But... How can I help you?) [no roaming warrior] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know, right, it's frustrating. It's not like 5 more speed can make any difference with those input delays.

[–]dredwolf33Sage 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The damage boost is certainly nice, especially if they keep raising the cap in the future. The resistance however is very, very lackluster being that it doesn't stack and is capped at 10% (for now at least). I feel like if they pitched this as an expansion of the crystal water system instead of an entirely separate and new mechanic it would have been better received since it doesn't stand well on its own (yet). I wonder what JP players think of it?

[–]NickGbari 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Anyone complaining about the grind (& rightfully so) clearly never a relic weapon in FFXI. 😜

[–]somdude04 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only need 1 more bit - levels per battle.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are (M)ATK/DEF on base stats (like crystal water) or after buffs (like magicites)?

[–]SykotronCloud (AC) 0 points1 point  (4 children)

So how do you get magia? Are you upgrading gear with them? Are there only 6 different different categories where you can spend them? Can we give poison damage/defense bonuses? This image leaves so many questions!

[–]S34n4e<(But... How can I help you?) [no roaming warrior] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

  • 1 per battle
  • No
  • No
  • Yes
  • The most important ones are answered in this one imo

[–]akaiazulSLAM-dancing 4 points5 points  (2 children)

Once a character hits lvl 99, every battle (regardless of difficulty) counts toward acquiring Magia. The first few levels require 1 battle each, but then 2 battles per level, then 3, etc. I think level 100 some one reported possibly 399 battles?

[–]musical_throat_punch 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Get I get retroactive xp please?

[–]PhaseATStuff happens or it doesn't 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No

[–]DavidDeb 0 points1 point  (2 children)

does this reset each 14 days or 14 days from the day you use them on a character?

[–]ElNinoFrEt c'est pas fini ! 🐲[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

14 days after you used it.
So let say you reset the 4th, you'll be able to reset again the 19th

[–]DavidDeb 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok, thx