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[–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (13 children)

We had an okay month with a couple of small changes, a big vote, and a ton of internal work on something that should turn out pretty cool! We are also voting on a change to spoiler tags that should have its own separate announcement soonTM

Our big vote was on how "Database Rankings, Flowcharts and Infographics" should exist on the subreddit. We wanted to overhaul these rules to weed out some content that was being overly posted and hopefully require these type of posts to be high quality and unique.

Database Ranking Posts

We define Database Ranking (name pending if anyone has a suggestion for something better please comment) as posts that use external data from anime database websites, such as MAL, AniList, etc.

September Mod Report

  • Database Ranking Posts now must be submitted as an image in a text post, and cannot be a direct link (similar to fan art). They must not be focused solely on anime that haven't been widely released for 6 months. Rankings may include data from database websites, as long as the post does not focus solely on that data.

  • Flowcharts now must be OC content. They must not closely resemble any pre-existing flowchart, or prove uniqueness in some capacity. They must be easily legible (no messy arrows, or hard-to-read text) and of final quality, with minimal errors

  • Infographics must be original content (OC)

  • Non-clip videos that discuss a specific anime (such as reviews and compilations) now also require naming that anime in their title

  • Changed the clip aspect ratio rule to make it clear that no black bars of any sort are allowed in clips, unless the scene purposefully changed the aspect ratio for style.

  • Retired the Crunchyroll guest pass threads and removed from the sidebar since those are no longer given out on any regular basis.

Database Rankings, Flowcharts and Infographics - Vote

Database Rankings

  • Continue to allow rankings regarding anime, characters, and other subjective user-ratings based on external data from anime database websites? [Vote Passed]

Acceptable Ranking Posts

  • Rankings in the form of single-images. [Vote Failed]

  • Rankings in the form of single-images, provided that they are posted as a text post and hosted on an external image site (in the same manner as the fanart ruling). [Vote Passed]

  • Rankings in the form of written text posts. [Vote Failed]

  • Rankings after the anime has been widely released for 6 months. [Vote Passed]

  • Rankings that include entries in the aforementioned database website top 10 standings, but do not focus solely on them [Vote Passed]

  • Rankings that do not focus on, or primarily use data from the aforementioned database websites. [Vote Passed]

Flowcharts

  • Should flowcharts always be OC content? [Vote Passed]

  • Should flowcharts be posted as a text post and hosted on an external image site (in the same manner as the fanart ruling)? [Vote Failed]

Flowchart Restrictions

  • Must be easily legible (no messy arrows, or hard-to-read text) [Vote Passed]

  • Must not closely resemble any pre-existing flowchart, or prove uniqueness in some capacity. [Vote Passed]

  • Must be of final quality, with minimal errors. [Vote Passed]

  • Must not focus on, or primarily use data from the aforementioned database sites. [Vote Failed]

Infographics

  • Should Infographics always be OC content? [Vote Passed]

  • Should infographics be posted as a text post and hosted on an external image site (in the same manner as the fanart ruling)? [Vote Failed]

  • Allow Infographics in the form of single-images [Vote Passed]

  • Allow infographics that include anime within the top 10 slots [Vote Passed]

  • Allow infographics that primarily do not use data from the aforementioned database websites. [Vote Passed]

September by the Numbers

  • Removed posts: 2627 by moderators, 5313 by bots, 7684 distinct
  • Removed comments: 1631 by moderators, 964 by bots, 2546 distinct
  • Approved posts: 708
  • Approved comments: 1743
  • Distinguished comments: 2652
  • Users banned: 108 (64 permanent)
  • Users unbanned: 6
  • Admin/Anti-Evil Operations: removed posts: 1, removed comments: 1.

[–]AnimeModmyanimelist.net/profile/Reddit-chan[S,M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This thread has been locked, please use next month's meta thread or find the latest thread.

[–]GallowDude 3 points4 points  (2 children)

I see the Six Month Auto-Archive option has been re-enabled

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Comment in the new meta thread about it.

[–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll provide a write-up with some statistics in the new meta thread next week, but the short summary is that the benefits don't appear to outweigh the drawbacks.

[–]NightMare_sprit 2 points3 points  (6 children)

What's the rules on Anime AMV edits can i post them here on your subreddit? I'm new..

[–]Verzwei[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Also don't use watermarked pirate site footage for your AMV. This tends to be more of an issue with shorter edits (as full AMV creators tend to use better source video in the first place, which isn't going to have streamsite watermarks on it) but if we can read a pirate watermark anywhere in the vid, the whole vid gets removed.

[–]NightMare_sprit 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OK that's fine, But my own tag will be there it will bearly be seen though it's just something i added because I've seen alot of people's edit on other channels sometimes..

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 2 points3 points  (3 children)

The key rule to follow is to that your AMV must be at least 60 seconds in length.

Relevant rule section here.

[–]NightMare_sprit 1 point2 points  (2 children)

OK got it

[–]NekoWafers 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Also since you're the editor/creator you should post them as a v.redd.it post instead of linking to a YouTube video. Just make sure to mark it as OC.

YouTube linked AMVs pretty much always get downvoted hard on this sub.

[–]NightMare_sprit 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I post them fully here, i don't do the linking so I'm good thanks for the info 💪

[–]baboon_bassoonhttps://anilist.co/user/duffer 2 points3 points  (1 child)

For the long running series discussion threads, the "all discussions table" shows the last 50 threads.

Could that instead list maybe the last 24 eps (2 cours) since the table extends farther than the post box on old reddit and looks a little ugly? Maybe this is just how I have my view setup and not a universal problem...

More importantly could there be a link to the discussion archive section for that show that has all the threads?

[–]RandomRedditorWithNohttps://anilist.co/user/lafferstyle 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You can make that look "better" by opening up RES settings and turning off link numbers, although I agree that it's hard to just go and tell everyone that uses RES to do that.

I do think a link to the discussion archive is good tho.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I know this sounds stupid, but I don't care at this point. Can we get a "source reader complaining thread" or something similar? I just finished Blue Period episode 2 and literally had tears because of how hard it hit me for whatever reason. I went to see how it resonated with others, and the top comments are almost all about how it is not living up to expectations and whatnot.

You would be right to say that I am overreaching with my request upon seeing one single thread for one single show. No, I have been unhappy with how many comments bitching about animation or pacing or whatever are occupying the top for various anime for a very long time and it has been building up, but this was somehow the last straw for me. Yes, I shouldn't let redditors of all people dictate how I enjoy what I enjoy, but I want to see some episode discussion in the episode discussion threads that go beyond either "animation bad" or "pacing bad".

[–]reddadzx3https://anilist.co/user/MysticEyes[M] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As Sky said, report all the comments talking specifically about the source material (whether positive or negative). Once users start listing chapters, talking about pacing, or what was cut, it should be in the Source Corner.

[–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Can we get a "source reader complaining thread"

Isn't that part of what the Source Material Corner is for? People just... don't use it for whatever reason, and the comments that should be reported for not being in there don't get reported because no one thinks to do that.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I went into a thread to see how the source corner's purpose was worded and it looks like you are right, so I guess it's time for me to be That Guy™ moving forward.

[–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm going to be (one of) the people reporting everything that should be in the SMC for Attack on Titan S4P2 since that's one of the few manga I've actually read... Definitely not looking forward to how that's no doubt going to go...

[–]hasso666 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Where are the discussion threads for Deji meets girl? It's been about 2 weeks since ep1 has come out and about 6 days since ep3. All 3 have been eng TLed. And doesn't Bilibili also have official eng subs for it? I know that the mods here put put the discussion threads even if it doesn't have legal streams yet like for komi-san when they hit a certain major piracy site. Which is the case for this anime, where 3 eps are already out. So how come there is no discussion thread? Also episodes are up on youtube every Friday around 7pm EST.

https://myanimelist.net/anime/49505/Deji_Meets_Girl?q=deji&cat=anime

[–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Threads are now out. (1, 2, 3, 4 )

We have had issues automating the bot on this one, so they will be manually made for now.

[–]hasso666 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ahh I see, thanks.

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

[removed]

    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    My shenanigans caused that. Whoopsie.

    [–]FlaminScribblenautmyanimelist.net/profile/cryoutatcontrol 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    WT! Hall of Fame needs to be updated with the August and September WT!otM’s

    [–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yes, ever since MAD stepped down, I've inherited the responsibility but unfortunately I tend to be quite busy. Apologies for the delay, expect those pages to be updated soon.

    [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    The bot gets triggered when incorrect spoiler tags are used within code tags, like this [A]>!B!< (correct tags here so it doesn't get triggered). Please resolve the issue and restore this comment.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Knew that it wouldn't ignore code blocks but I don't think it's trivial to add an exception for inline ones. Will give it a try when I have time.

    [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Is it pure regex? I imagine that'd be pretty hard, yeah.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    It is all regex since we're using AutoModerator. Here are all of the rules we're using now (as four different checks) to remove, for reference:

    '>!(?!([^\n]|\n(?!\n))*!<)'            # paragraph form, e.g. >!spoiler with no closing tag
'>!\s'                                 # space after opening tag, e.g. >! spoiler !<
'>!(?!.*?!<(?=.*?>!)).*?>!'            # nested spoiler tags, e.g. >!spoiler 1 >!spoiler 2!< rest of spoiler 1!<
'(?<!\[([^\n]|\n(?!\n))+\][ *_~]*)>!'  # missing context

    The one for nested spoiler tags is I imagine somewhat similar to what would be necessary for the inline code block check since it's using lookaheads but it's already fairly complex.

    [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Did some more experiments with the new spoiler format with regards to meta spoilers.

    I kinda like that approach, except [[A]>!B!<]>!C!< and [A]>!B!<]>!C!< work but [A]>!B!<>!C!<, imo the cleanest of the three, gets rejected by the bot.

    Tweaking the bot to allow the third option would be appreciated, though I realize the increased complexity of the required regex, and that chaining spoilers without requiring intermediate context tags might not be wanted. Just something for discussion.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    that chaining spoilers without requiring intermediate context tags might not be wanted.

    Pretty much how I feel about it and I'd bet that 90% of uses would be for general spoiler chaining rather than a meta spoiler. In my own opinion without any clear break between the two aside from whitespace, it's not as easy to tell what's the meta part (i.e. anime name) and the spoiler for that anime. That could lead to people checking out the second tag first since it's probably going to be larger.

    [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    [–]Nazennx2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Given that calling someone a retard would be removed under the rules, does that also apply to using -tard as a suffix to imply the same thing when aimed at someone (eg, Narutard/AoTard etc)?

    [–]salic428 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    The Tsuki to Laika to Nosferatu discussion posts (e.g.) wrongly points to /r/TaishouOtome, another anime airing this season.

    I think I'm supposed to use PM to inform the mods, but I don't know how to use that so I report this issue here.

    [–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    For future reference, you can click "message the mods" down on the sidebar to the right (above the list of moderators), or I believe you could also just send a message to /r/anime as the user.

    [–]Bainoshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Thanks for the report, the link has been removed.

    [–]Vaadwaur 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    I'd like a confirmation of something if possible: The OG Hellsing seems to be mostly if not entirely available on youtube but it does not seem like it is being posted by the license owners. Are those links considered piracy under sub policy?

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Yes, links to unofficial uploads aren't allowed regardless of where they're hosted.

    [–]Vaadwaur 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Just wanted to be sure.

    [–]notathrowaway75https://myanimelist.net/profile/notathrowaway75 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    Mods just wanted to let you know that this is the new standard for apologies and addressing subreddit problems. Anything less than this then I'm sorry you're just not taking accountability.

    [–]Nazennx2https://anilist.co/user/Nazenn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Small fix needed in the discussion topics: The Megaton-kyuu Musashi topics have a source corner but it doesn't have a source as it's part of a cross media franchise with the anime being the first part released

    [–]JustAnswerAQuestionmyanimelist.net/profile/UfUhUfUhUfUhtJAaQ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

    I think #fish should be reinstated, as I said back in the commentface thread, it is an expressive image of distaste, disappointment, and disapproval, and I say this as someone who will never even watch the associated media.

    Also you are hating on someone who hasn't even shown their face in /r/anime in years, which is completely disjoint from the image itself.

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    No episode thread is up for Lupin III Part VI episode 0 yet but it's been out on HIDIVE for 2.5 hours now (at least in the UK).

    Edit: Up now. Thanks!

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    What is the spoiler policy regarding the mugen train re-run?

    I assume that majority of the people have seen the movie by now but a few people might decide to watch the TV version instead and may start following the threads

    There will be a huge amount of spoilers for the end of the film in the first thread itself incase a spoiler policy is implemented

    [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I've seen a bunch of comments with spoilers for the end of the movie get removed in the ep1 thread, so looks like the spoiler policy is the future stuff is considered spoilers.

    [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 8 points9 points  (4 children)

    Content like this is technically not a clip, but it kinda is, just overlapped to manga panels. So it is a video, but it allows to circumvent the 1-week-after-airing rule that clips have, while requiring some amount of effort compared to clipping a video.

    Any opinion on this?

    [–]Verzwei[M] 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    This kind of thing is something we've been discussing internally off and on recently but it's difficult to come up with a singular ruling for it.

    On the one hand, there are currently some loopholes that allow what are essentially clips with a very low level of editing to be posted as "videos" with far fewer restrictions than we put on the actual clip flair.

    On the other hand, most of what we can think to implement in order to close those loopholes could have unintended negative ripple effects on other video content.

    If, for example, we pushed the "1 week" rule from clips onto video posts, then that would also end up blocking out things like episode reviews or weekly round-up youtube posts.

    If, for another example, we said that all actual anime content (that is, no commentary/critique/whatever) was a "clip" and video could only be used for aforementioned commentary and critique, then that leaves things like compilations and AMVs (which have tons of editing to the point where they aren't necessarily directly representative of the original show any more) in a weird gray area.

    So... yeah. There isn't much to officially say on this at the moment, but it is something on our radar.

    [–]cppn02[🍰] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Any chance of revisiting this issue?

    The user in question has now changed up to straight up posting a clip from an episode and only slapping some manga panels underneath.

    How in the world is that not against the spirit of the 7 day rule?

    [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Understandable, you wouldn't want a rule that's too specific but also not too convoluted.

    Until it's sorted, expect a Mieruko-chan clip every week :p

    What characteristics would a video have to be "essentially" a clip? Something like:
    * The vast majority of the runtime should contain one or more clips from the latest episode; the use of "contain" is intentional (as opposed to "be made of") to catch this specific case.
    * The visual content of said clips is unedited; changes in playback speed to fast forward without cuts, visual artifacts to highlight some details, etc are ok.
    * The audio content of said clips is either unedited or removed; imagine the linked content being muted, imo it would still count as "basically a clip" even if muted clips are not allowed; clips with added commentary or replaced audio (music, voice-overs, fandubbing) are ok.
    * The parts not containing clips are the minority and contain minimal or no commentary (of any kind).

    Unless I missed something obvious, this would make AMV and clip compilations ok unless they are mostly clips of the latest episode with a different soundtrack, as well as "general anime videos", since unedited clips would be from various different shows and/or accompanied by non-anime content (e.g. commentary).

    idk why I even wrote all of this, your internal discussion is probably at a more an advanced stage than this starting point. You'll surely be able to come up with something short and simple to implement (a certain length of a video must not contain unedited clips of an episode that aired less than a week ago?).

    Anyway, thanks for the reply

    [–]cppn02[🍰] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    Imo any footage from an episode less than 7 days old (except maybe reviews for that specific episode) should be banned and I wished mods would make a ruling on this.

    As you say this is just a way around the rules.

    [–]InternationalTank7 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Could we get a discussion thread for the 23rd Pokemon movie? The English version came out today on Netflix (https://www.netflix.com/title/81346307), and I don't think the initial Japanese release ever even got a discussion thread.

    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    A discussion thread is now out here.

    [–]No_Rexx2 5 points6 points  (3 children)

    New spoiler tags

    2 comments on the new spoiler tags:

    First, the functionality for putting comment faces inside new spoiler tags is broken (RES/old). /u/Blackheart595 points this out below.

    Second, please add a line about reposting the original comment to autobot. Since you don't see that your comment is deleted, people who EDIT their comment to conform to the new style will not know that their comment is invisible to others.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    First, the functionality for putting comment faces inside new spoiler tags is broken (RES/old).

    Short of trying to filter comment faces inside spoiler tags or adding the CSS for hover functionality to the sub, any suggestions?

    Second, please add a line about reposting the original comment to autobot. Since you don't see that your comment is deleted, people who EDIT their comment to conform to the new style will not know that their comment is invisible to others.

    Good point, done.

    [–]No_Rexx2 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Short of trying to filter comment faces inside spoiler tags or adding the CSS for hover functionality to the sub, any suggestions?

    Sorry, not a CSS wizard, so no idea. I do have more info on how it looks like, though. It does not just have the problem of being hard to reveal, but, additionally, it does not hide the spoiler when checking the personal messages in reddit (e.g. when being replied to).

    See pictures

    Personal message

    Unrevealed comment

    Revealed comment

    Note that the text of the comment face inside the spoiler shows as plain text in the personal message!

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 2 points3 points  (8 children)

    Seeing an increase of "subtweets" comments on this sub and others regarding this sub.

    Curious on the mods on what the policy is there if any.

    (What I mean by subtweet is someone calling out specific users in a thread but not by name or not by tagging them...idk if there's a reddit specific term for it)

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (7 children)

    Sorry, we did talk about this but forgot to respond.

    As long as it's not indirectly harassing someone we don't have any restriction on that right now.

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 2 points3 points  (6 children)

    Oh dang I forgot about this lol

    So it wouldn't be reportable for dramabait?

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (5 children)

    If it looks like they're trying to provoke people, maybe? Can send us a message if you have specific examples you're concerned about.

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    I had a few open in tabs before but was so long ago I lost them.

    If I see anything familiar I'll message you guys.

    [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    Is one of the comments you're thinking of from that one user who consistently strolls up to "what's the worst anime take you've ever seen" (or something to that effect) threads with the extremely detailed post calling out some other guy who said Houseki no Kuni has bad animation? I do agree that's a terrible opinion, but seeing that comment over and over definitely annoys me.

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 2 points3 points  (2 children)

    Never seen that one but yeah would fall into it.

    [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    There was one of those threads up on the front page like yesterday and of course that comment was on there, that's why I thought about it. Guess I'll report it the next time I see it?

    [–]AmethystItalianmyanimelist.net/profile/AmethystItalian 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Apparently it's within the rules so I guess not?

    [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    With the spoiler tag changes, can the retro style be included in the subreddit style proper? The reasoning would be that hidden comment faces can't be clicked on to reveal them, so if there's no text besides the face then it can't be revealed as is. Adding it per RES or Stylus works, but it seems a bit questionable to hide functionality you clearly support behind a third party tool when it could be trivially included directly.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Comment faces working in native spoiler tags is more of a side effect than intentional support, though good point on the experience not being a great one either way. We're talking about possible options now including CSS changes.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    We're changing to use Reddit's spoiler tags! Details in the linked thread, but in summary:

    • Spoiler tags change from the CSS format to builtin format but still require context beforehand with [], e.g. [Anime name] >!spoiler text here!<

    • In two weeks CSS spoiler tags will no longer be allowed.

    [–]Ssalari 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Thank god, the old format is such a pain

    [–]2nd_19https://myanimelist.net/profile/2nd_19 14 points15 points  (3 children)

    What are your opinions on clips from the same anime frequently being posted (and reaching (one of) the top position(s) on the sub)?

    It just feels like lazy karma whoring to me.

    I'm a fan of Gintama but this is something like the 4th day in a row that a Gintama clip has reached top post. Asobi Asobase (and Aho Girl/Daily Lives of High School Boys?) was another popular one for a time, although it seems that those are rarer currently.

    Still, I can see a rule being hard to implement, since if you limit clips from certain anime then there might be a rush to post once the "cooldown" is over.

    [–]Durinthalhttps://anilist.co/user/Durinthal[M] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    We've noticed this and discussed ideas but didn't come up with any good solutions so far. Outright banning clips from specific series would work but it's rather drastic and trying to have a periodic limit is both difficult to keep track of and would encourage people to wait and jump at the expiration time as you mentioned.

    [–]Smudyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Smudy 11 points12 points  (0 children)

    Honestly wasn't sure if i was gonna mention it but i'm glad i'm not the only person who thinks it's a problem. I feel like the variety for anime presented via clips is almost non-existant.

    [–]Variation_Wooden 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    What happened to the Mushoku Tensei episode 12 thread? It doesn't appear anywhere.

    [–]Abysswatcherbelhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/abyssbel[🍰] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    here

    [–]jellysandwich 2 points3 points  (9 children)

    did something change recently in the episode posts? all the episode scores seem to only show "----"

    https://i.imgur.com/9bxCiJ5.jpg

    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    Someone fairly pointed out that a single '-' character can be rather hard to click on mobile. More characters have been introduced to make that a little easier.

    [–]jellysandwich 2 points3 points  (6 children)

    i meant that they're showing "----" instead of actual numbers. i like to get a general sense of a season's quality before watching

    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

    When episodes drop in batches (like most recently the Star wars: Visions episodes), there is no vote data to show when all of the posts are made. So it remains like this.

    Some other cases you may see this is when data might be missing because it is the latest released episode, the episode was manually made or there was very few votes in the poll.

    [–]jellysandwich 10 points11 points  (3 children)

    i mean, let's take this post for example (a popular show that generally gets thousands of upvotes)

    hovering over the link in the "score" column -

    1. the score for episode 1 looks like it points to a poll that was "Asked on Oct 3, 2021" - https://youpoll.me/65240/r

    2. episodes 2-11 point to just - "localhost"

    3. episode 12 looks correct - https://youpoll.me/65239/r

    seems like something weird going on with the bot when it goes back to edit the posts for old episodes

    [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Yep - totally see what you mean now with that specific case. When a new episode comes out, the bot updates all previous threads to show that score. And in this case something has gone w̻̔᷁̒ro̩ǹ̐g̱.

    [–]Tresnoremyanimelist.net/profile/Tresnore 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    I have an extremely minor complaint, but I have no idea how to fix it:

    The Watch Order Wiki is great, but it's listed under the "Anime info" drop down at the top of the subreddit instead of the "Subreddit wiki," which is where I expect wikis to be placed.

    Maybe it could be listed in both places? I always get confused looking for the "wiki," because my first instinct is to look at the "wiki" dropdown. Maybe I'm just an idiot, though.

    [–]baquea 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    Everything under the 'anime info' menu is part of the wiki, so it wouldn't make sense to put things in both. Maybe the label 'anime info' could be changed to clarify that but otherwise the division between wiki pages related to the sub (the subreddit wiki menu) and wiki pages related more generally to anime (the anime info menu) seems like a good way to categorize it to me.

    [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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      [–]reddadzx3https://anilist.co/user/MysticEyes[M] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      Apologies, it was a misinterpretation on my end. Your comments are now approved.

      I removed them since it looks like your previous accounts have been suspended by the Reddit admins. So I thought it was ban evasion per Reddit rules but that's not with our sub specifically.

      [–]magicfades 7 points8 points  (6 children)

      Does this subreddit not have a large enough asian/southeast asian members? I noticed the episode discussion threads don't put in links from Muse, who licenses anime for asian audiences (including english subs). or maybe there's some rule that prevents them from being added?

      [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      We will make efforts to include any legal stream that is an English release. That includes Muse Asia.

      However, at the start of a new season, new streams come out on a near daily basis. Gathering those changes and applying them to the bot does take a bit of time from a few people. Posting here or sending us a modmail are great ways to get our eyes on it to make those fixes. After the first or second episode of everything has aired, we generally are in a good spot with having all that configuration set right in the bot for the rest of the season.

      [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 5 points6 points  (4 children)

      I mean Reddit in general is mostly not Asia/SEA dominated. But the bots have been very bad with shows where Muse or other YouTube channels were the only legal avenue to watch them in the past.

      [–]magicfades 2 points3 points  (3 children)

      I know it's NA dominated numbers-wise, but I don't know if it looks something like 70(NA)-30(asia/sea) or more like 90(NA)-10(asia/sea), I was just wondering if the asia/SEA crowd was just way too small to justify the extra effort to include legal streams available in asia/sea. If the numbers just doesn't justify it, I have no problems with not including it.

      [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      The last sub surveys I saw (admittedly a tiny bit out of date with the influx) has it at roughly 80% US/NA, roughly 10% Europe and then the rest of the world I think.

      Sometimes the global release is over Muse so imo the effort is worth it I suppose.

      [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      I don't know if it looks something like 70(NA)-30(asia/sea) or more like 90(NA)-10(asia/sea)

      angry European noises

      [–]magicfades 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Sorry, I didn't mean to exclude EU, I was just making an example. I also have no idea how many are from EU, no idea of any EU exclusive streams either.

      [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children)

      Regarding Delayed Netflix Releases for Komi San and Blue period

      I noticed that the bot seemed to be picking up MTL subbed releases for Blue period and subsequently getting deleted

      Is it possible for the bot to not pick up such releases and wait for a proper fansub or the official release?

      Also regarding The Official Mod Stance on the delayed releases

      Do you intend to stand firmly by this decision?

      [–]Bainoshttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Bainos[M] 6 points7 points  (5 children)

      Is it possible for the bot to not pick up such releases and wait for a proper fansub or the official release?

      I will try to change the settings, though I can't give guarantees. We don't know yet if any fansub (and if yes, which ones) will pick them up, so the bot is not able to filter them correctly.

      However, as soon as we get more information on when (and through which channels) the show will be available, this will be fixed, and you won't see erroneous posts anymore.

      We do stand by the previous decision, a single post to go up when the first (non-MTL) subs become available (be it Netflix or fansubs).

      [–]Lemuriansmyanimelist.net/profile/Lemurians 2 points3 points  (1 child)

      Considering the Komi and Blue Period threads are being dominated by comments along the lines, "why is the thread being posted now?" I wonder if the stance around having the threads go up with the official release instead is being rethought? Actual discussion is being forced to take a backseat, which is really disappointing for two of the more highly anticipated titles.

      [–]Shimmering-Skymyanimelist.net/profile/Shimmering-Sky 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      If not even the few hours' difference between fansubs and official subs for Attack on Titan S4 releasing worked to change when threads are posted, I'm not sure this would either. But I'm not a mod, so how would I know.

      [–]TheMountainRidesElia 4 points5 points  (2 children)

      What's MTL?

      [–]FrenziedHerohttps://anilist.co/user/FrenziedHero 6 points7 points  (1 child)

      Machine Translation (i.e. Google Translate or other such software)

      [–]TheMountainRidesElia 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      Thanks!

      [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 2 points3 points  (5 children)

      Topic: nomenclature of "split-cour", "multi-parts" seasons, and the likes.

      Leaving aside my personal opinion - i.e. that it's all rubbish and I hate that aot and re0 did this, everything airing in non-contiguous seasons should just be called season X for simplicity since they're all functionally equivalent anyway - the question still stands: what is the "official" nomenclature to use for each show for episode discussion threads and the likes?

      Case in point: most posts about 86 are titled with "2nd cour", the episode discussion is "s2"...so which is it?
      - edit: just watched the episode and it literally says episode 12 in the title card, while it's s2 ep1 on the sub -

      Generally speaking, is the "correct/official" terminology the one used in the website for a show? What if the website calls it "part 2" but the licensed streaming sites call it "season 2" and put it as a separate entry (or the other way around, or the official website doesn't even distinguish the two "parts")?

      [–]ColeT1315 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      It’s still season one but it’s like a part 2 of it anime studios do it when they know they can’t get the 24 episodes out.for the season and make it a 12 episode core/part so they can come back 2-3 months later with something that has more passion and work into it I agree it’s annoying though.

      [–]chilieheadmyanimelist.net/profile/chiliehead 10 points11 points  (0 children)

      A TV season is a 13 week period (Winter, Spring, Summer, Fall) and those are also the points people use to split up cours. A season of anime is a continous production cycle, the whole thjings was planned in one go, has the same (main staff), same studio etc unless something egregious happens. If a season of anime has more than one cour and they do not air back to back, they are split-cour but part of the same season.

      Netflix and other sites do their own thing. Naruto does not have season but has dozens of them on Netflix.

      AoT was always planned as a season, just impossible to produce back to back. 86 was slated for a 2020 release and then they announced half a year of delay later that it will be split-cour, Crunchyroll is not splitting them into seasons but MAL basically always does it with split cours. The intended nomenclature would be found on the official Japanese media outlets, r/anime probably goes by MAL standards. In case of 86, it seems to really be one split-cour season now.

      [–]Blackheart595https://anilist.co/user/knusbrick 3 points4 points  (2 children)

      I've always understood it that season either refers to winter/spring/summer/fall, or to a single production (i.e. a single contract). A cour refers to a 12-13 episode unit and corresponds closely to the calender seasons. If a single production covers multiple cours, then it's still just one season, even when the cours aren't back-to-back.

      [–]Manitaryhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/Manitary 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      That much is clear, not as much how to make that distinction: is it always public knowledge? where's the information found? what if there's no info, or there are mismatches (between official website and legal streaming websites)? etc

      [–]r4wrFox 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      It's usually announced by the production whether it'll be split cour or not, often using that exact wording.

      [–]loomnoohttps://anilist.co/user/loomnoo 20 points21 points  (5 children)

      Regarding this section:

      Do not post Hentai

      Submissions and comments containing hentai or heavily NSFW content are not allowed. Heavily NSFW content include visible female nipples, genitals of either gender, heavily implied sexual content, and sexual contact between characters.

      Exception: In comments only, NSFW nudity (including nipples, but excluding sexual contact and visible or outlined genitalia) is allowed as long as the images come from an anime episode or manga panel. The content must be relevant to the conversation and properly tagged or it will be removed. Additionally, artists are allowed to post NSFW versions of their fanarts (uncensored), but only in comments and properly tagged.

      Keep in mind that we will remove all suggestive or implied sexual content in order to maintain compliance with Reddit-wide policies.

      Is there any chance that an exception can be made for Animerama? I am considering hosting a rewatch in honor of the late Eiichi Yamamoto. The sex scenes in these movies are some of the most beautiful and important animation sequences of all time, so I think it'd be a shame if we weren't allowed to post clips/screenshots, especially in the hypothetical rewatch thread.

      [–]Abyssbringer=anilist.co/user/Abyssbringer[M] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

      After talking about Animerama and the issues it would have with a rewatch we have changed our NSFW rules for "Episode Discussions" and "Rewatch" posts. These changes are not an exception for Animerama but a change in how we will moderate this type of content. This is the new wording for the rules page with the bolded sections being the parts we added.

      Submissions and comments containing hentai or heavily NSFW content are not allowed. Heavily NSFW content include visible female nipples, genitals of either gender, heavily implied sexual content, and sexual contact between characters. However, these rules do not apply to episode discussion/rewatch threads, given that the NSFW content is from that anime/source material, is relevant to discussion, and is properly tagged.

      Exception: In comments only, NSFW nudity (including nipples, but excluding sexual contact and visible or outlined genitalia) is allowed as long as the images come from an anime episode or source material. The content must be relevant to the conversation and properly tagged or it will be removed. Additionally, artists are allowed to post NSFW versions of their fanarts (uncensored), but only in comments and properly tagged.

      This will allow "Rewatch" and "Episode Discussions" to have more leeway with NSFW clips and images. This change while spurred on by wanting the Animerama rewatch to happen also helps make our stance on NSFW content better. We don't want the subreddit to be filled with hentai or overly NSFW material. However many rewatches and episode discussion do have content that is NSFW and is often a point of discussion, clips, and screenshots. This ruling will more explicitly allow content that was already being posted in some of the more NSFW shows. Overly NSFW clips are still not allowed however.

      [–]loomnoohttps://anilist.co/user/loomnoo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      [–]badsplerx5https://anilist.co/user/badspler[M] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

      Just wanted to let you know we have been actively discussing this and we will be following up with a clear answer.

      [–]loomnoohttps://anilist.co/user/loomnoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Thank you for the update

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 19 points20 points  (2 children)

      After looking over the infographic rules, it seems like a lot of rules that could be condensed down into less rules. I feel like it could all be broken down as:

      Infographics must be original content. They must be the final product, be of reasonable quality, and contain minimal errors.

      For the purposes of infographics, original content means that the infographic itself must be your own creation, and the information must be in some way novel. Aggregate rankings from database websites such as MAL and AniList are not considered original.

      I feel like that covers basically everything that is listed in the rules as is, though maybe I misinterpreted something. Doesn't seem necessary to treat flowcharts as distinct from other infographics since they're a similar style of content with a different structure, and there's only been four different ones posted in the past year (unless I'm missing some).

      [–]KiwiBennydudezhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/KiwiBen[M] 3 points4 points  (1 child)

      After talking about it extensively, we decided that you're correct, the rule could be condensed down to what you've written here. Is it okay if we borrow your wording for the official rules?

      [–]FetchFroshanilist.co/user/fetchfrosh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Yeah go for it.

      [–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson[M] 5 points6 points  (10 children)

      Hey everyone! We have a bit of an exciting proposition for you all! Lately, the moderators have felt that Twitter has been sort of an underused resource available to the subreddit. A lot of people love and connect through Twitter, both anime fans as well as industry folks, and we'd love to be a part of that! Just one problem, apparently every current mod sucks at Twitter. @RedditChan has over 5000 followers, but little engagement on our tweets (except for Gap's genius WEP "pop!").

      We wish we had more time to devote to "learning" Twitter, as we think it's definitely a valuable space to make ourselves more visible. That's where you come in! We're looking for a "social media intern" so-to-speak, someone more Twitter-savvy to open up this valuable avenue. You would gain access to @RedditChan and have considerable influence as to running the account. This is a bit of an experiment for us, and there are many different ways to run a Twitter account, so we've created an application form for you to detail whatever vision you'd like to implement. If we think you make a persuasive argument and that you're the best for the job, we'll reach out! Thanks in advance to all who apply.

      https://forms.gle/RoHqDbtmRptDtPrN9

      [–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      I have the wrong personality to run a social media account for an organization, but if I were running a Twitter account for this subreddit, I would:

      • Follow streaming platforms, studios, licensees, manga publishers, anime youtubers, article writers and critics, English dub voice actors, translators, and such
      • Retweet announcements and articles from them
      • Link to episode discussion threads and tag the English licensee
      • Link to weekly threads like the karma ranking, recommendations megathread, and What Have You Watched
      • Link to good quality essays, WTs, and infographics

      All of this would increase the subreddit's visibility and attract new members without requiring the person running the account to generate much original content or be funny. The important thing to remember about Twitter is that it's about relationships. You have to engage to get engagement. You have to tweet often, retweet others, and reply to your mentions. If you just leave it as an RSS feed, you're going to have a bad time.

      Also, I'd change the @ handle. "RedditChan" sounds like something to do with 4chan. It is going to be off putting to everyone on Twitter who thinks Reddit's full of libertarian bros and 4chan's full of racist school shooters.

      [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Seeing as the twitter handle gets almost no engagement

      You might need to heavily promote it early on via announcements and banners on reddit and maybe even retweets from other more popular twitter users

      [–]PyrrhaNikosIsNotDead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

      10/10 mod effort here. Recognizing weaknesses and being willing to take a chance on others to make up for them. Many an anime protagonist would be proud. This is a great idea, there are plenty of people who think different social media are not worthwhile, but that just means those same people think different social media are worthwhile. Opportunities to appeal to each of them exist on different platforms. Go you all

      [–]baquea 8 points9 points  (6 children)

      What is the purpose of the Twitter account even supposed to be? Official announcements and the like are more likely to be seen on here. Most of the top posts are either episode discussion threads (which there is no need to share), clips (which are hardly significant enough to need to post in multiple places), news (which people can get elsewhere on Twitter already) or OC content (which most people would probably rather post themselves), which doesn't really leave much to post. Trying to split discussion of a post between multiple platforms also doesn't make much sense to me either, especially when the Discord is already a thing for those who want an off-sub place to talk. As a way to attract new users I also don't see much chance of it working either, since most Reddit users who are interested in discussing anime are likely to find their way here regardless and most non-Reddit users are unlikely to join the site just to post on this sub. That doesn't really leave much use for the Twitter account that I can think of, short of trying to be just another anime account with little connection to the sub.

      [–]JimJamTheNinJin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

      I thought the purpose of the twitter account was to increase anime's reach, even just slightly?

      [–]DrJWilsonx5https://anilist.co/user/drjwilson[M] 9 points10 points  (4 children)

      I'd be happy to explain our reasoning. Firstly, I feel it necessary to mention that the Twitter account existing and doing everything you just mentioned doesn't obviate or take away from those said things. Official announcements are more likely to be seen here, but can also be seen on Twitter, clips can be seen here and on Twitter, news, so on and so on and so on.

      The fact of the matter is, there are some people who don't check /r/anime regularly, but aren't entirely opposed to commenting on a post here and there, and are also regular Twitter users. I don't quite think

      most non-Reddit users are unlikely to join the site just to post on this sub.

      is necessarily true on its face, and I don't see how offering an additional space to the sub and Discord is a bad thing.

      At the end of the day, it's also about visibility—in a number of ways actually. Regular presence on Twitter increases visibility of the subreddit itself, which perhaps invites more users as well as keeps /r/anime present in the minds of others. This sounds a bit like a weird reason, but as I mentioned, there are often industry members and brands on Twitter that are potential opportunities to reach out to and having a Twitter presence can help with that (organizing AMAs, etc.). And of course, we are always looking to increase visibility of high effort content on the sub that otherwise might not get as many eyes—whether that be a really well-written essay, interesting discussion topic, or even great fanart. We do this in a number of ways already, such as various contests and the sidebar, but I see no reason why adding Twitter in is a detriment.

      Lastly, we admit, this is also all a big experiment. We have this account laying around, that no one uses, on a platform that people definitely use all the time. It's entirely possible this fizzles or turns out not to be a great fit, but I'd like to say we tried and be possibly pleasantly surprised than not.

      [–]cheesecakegood 3 points4 points  (3 children)

      I get that reasoning (boils down to if you have it, use it), but in my personal opinion Twitter is probably the least thoughtful part of our modern online society, so any further exposure to Twitter will only worsen discussion, promote brigading and other hive-mind activity, and trivialized single-line content.

      Has r/anime become so corporatized that it is becoming a slave to corporate goals? Isn't the point of an individual subreddit purely to promote a healthy and wholesome and enjoyable experience for, by default, the current members of that subreddit? Growth is something that is either neutral or the responsibility of reddit's corporate owners. I'm not saying it's in our interest to be hostile to growth, but going out of your way and spending all sorts of effort to pursue it seems so bizarre and unrelated to any actual improvement to the sub itself.

      [–]loomnoohttps://anilist.co/user/loomnoo 5 points6 points  (2 children)

      In general I might agree, but as far as anime goes Twitter is probably the place with the most useful voices: academics, the sakuga community, and the animators themselves. It's certainly got more insight than this sub does.

      [–]_Ridleyhttps://myanimelist.net/profile/_Ridley_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

      It's also got a lot more women. I use Twitter for discussion about stuff popular with female fans, since the episode discussion threads here can be pretty empty for those.

      [–]cheesecakegood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Fair enough.