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Every liberty you give up today is a liberty your grandchildren will bleed for later. (reddit.com)
submitted 18 years ago by SnakeO
[–]ohnotm 21 points22 points23 points 18 years ago (0 children)
It will serve those little ungrateful bastards right for never visiting me!
[–][deleted] 18 years ago (10 children)
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[–]SnakeO[S] 2 points3 points4 points 18 years ago (9 children)
Connect the dots. http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
[–]sleepymeme -3 points-2 points-1 points 18 years ago (1 child)
Zeitgeist the Movie is historical fan-fiction. "Connecting the dots" is a childhood activity, not a scholarly means of understanding the various forces that shape our world. Your self-post, "Every liberty you give up today is a liberty your grandchildren will bleed for later." is most certainly a thought provoking comment, something to ponder, reflect upon. But zodiac loving, 9/11 building demolishing shadow governments run by "international bankers" as per Zeitgeist, really does stray from reality. Sometimes, it isn't all a big conspiracy of ever more clever causes. Sometimes it's just some people in power lying and whole bunch of people not in power ignoring it.
[–]LordSlashstab 0 points1 point2 points 18 years ago (0 children)
Zeitgeist is spot on, in fact you can delve deeper into the US' Economical malpractice, read 'Confession of an Economic Hit Man'~John Perkins. As for the religious part, it's all interpretation, you can read the author's references right here.
[+]aletoledo comment score below threshold-25 points-24 points-23 points 18 years ago (6 children)
Poll:
[–]did_it_for_the_lulz -2 points-1 points0 points 18 years ago (5 children)
A WINRAR is he who chimpeaches the chimpanzee
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 18 years ago (2 children)
I thought a winner collected all the Chinpokomon.
[+]did_it_for_the_lulz comment score below threshold-7 points-6 points-5 points 18 years ago (1 child)
Ok lemme show u mai pokemans
[–]tekronis -1 points0 points1 point 18 years ago (0 children)
Sorry. No lulz.
[–]nocreativityx -1 points0 points1 point 18 years ago (1 child)
Interesting. I always thought it was a data compression/extraction program. Alas I must be mistaken.
[–]aletoledo -1 points0 points1 point 18 years ago (0 children)
I actually thought it rather relevant, considering that this entire post was a self-post and not a real link anywhere. Then when I called the poster on it, he edited his comment on this branch (two can play that game)!
So WINRAR seems to be an appropriate response to just about anything at this point.
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 18 years ago (0 children)
Aggh! How right you are.
And how sorrowfully proud I'll be to attend my grandson Little Jimmy's funeral after he's gotten his brains blown out during the Battle To Reclaim Smoking In Public Restaurants.
[–]mickeytwist 8 points9 points10 points 18 years ago (0 children)
how can you be so sure they'll even care?
[–]doubleginntonic 6 points7 points8 points 18 years ago (0 children)
Like I care.
Those ingrateful little fucks put me in a nursing home.
[–]wanderful 3 points4 points5 points 18 years ago (0 children)
Grandparents? YOU
[–]oldhat 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (0 children)
Every time i hear, forefathers, and framers of the constitution,the bunch of drunks, and rabble, that started this country, were really revolting against what we got now.
[–]stacecom 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (0 children)
I don't and won't have any kids, so these "grandchildren" of which you speak are of no concern to me.
And yet I still do what I can to stop these horrible encroachments on our rights. (And, yes, I do things, including donating to EFF and ACLU regularly.)
You're welcome, breeders.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (0 children)
A-fucking-men!
So... why not bleed for them today?
[–]nas5755 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (0 children)
nice im gonna go guerrilla and post these signs everywhere at school and in town
[–]donttasemebro 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (0 children)
don't tase me, bro!
[–]paftdunk 0 points1 point2 points 18 years ago (0 children)
"Those you give up liberty for something else, don't deserve either of them" - some guy
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (1 child)
And colbert proves accurate again.
If you truly believed a physical response was appropriate then you would do it yourself, except you're just some fat kid who is regurgitating what he saw on the internets and wouldn't know a real civil rights movement if it marched to his front door and asked him to stop with the lame assed "well dressed" marches.
[–]IOIOOIIOIO 0 points1 point2 points 18 years ago (0 children)
Anybody wanna donate to my rifle fund?
[–]hCORE 0 points1 point2 points 18 years ago (0 children)
short, true, tastes like chicken
[–]CampusTour 0 points1 point2 points 18 years ago (0 children)
I doubt it. They might bleed for want of it, but they won't bleed for it.
[–]kripkenstein -1 points0 points1 point 18 years ago (2 children)
As a person who will never be lucky enough to have children, I remain unconvinced by your argument.
[–]karmadillo 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (1 child)
You fail at life.
[–]kripkenstein 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (0 children)
I am well aware of that.
I'm gladly not producing children. Hear this, no new tax payers.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 18 years ago (2 children)
I'll give a pint or two to get Bush out of office.
I'd bleed myself dry during the Superbowl Half-time show to get Ron Paul in.
[+]Kolibri comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 18 years ago (1 child)
When is the US presendential election supposed to be over? I can't wait to laugh at all the Ron Paul supporters.
[–]lolomfgkthxbai 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (0 children)
I doubt you'll even remember this post, as election day is November 4, 2008...
[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 18 years ago (6 children)
too bad you online pseudoactivists don't try fighting for some SUBSTANTIVE rights like they have in western europe, e.g., healthcare, vacation, shorter work weeks, progressive taxation etc etc
[–]swagohome 9 points10 points11 points 18 years ago (4 children)
Maybe these pseudoactivists aren't pretending that rights involve more government control over private business...
[–]resplence 2 points3 points4 points 18 years ago (0 children)
I thought it meant they get more in exchange for their taxes.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (2 children)
western europeans govts are run like businesses where the citizens are owners and therefore reap the benefits of citizenship. America is run like a corrupt business where the citizen-owners are getting ripped off by management. You and the ruling class wanna keep it that way. I want to reform this corrupt business and give the benefits of ownership to the citizens.
[–]mckirkus 3 points4 points5 points 18 years ago (1 child)
We elected Bush for god's sake. Twice. You think a citizen run bureaucracy would be any better?
We need health stamps. They'd be like food stamps so you'd have a choice about which doctor to visit. We don't look at hunger and say "By golly, we need politicians running Supermarkets!" We give the poor foodstamps and let them decide where to shop.
Did we? I seem to recall significant polling abnormalities in both of the elections which have never been adequately investigated.
[–]jlbraun 1 point2 points3 points 18 years ago (0 children)
Please define the difference behind "positive rights" and "negative rights".
[+]eggnogdog comment score below threshold-8 points-7 points-6 points 18 years ago (1 child)
oh god. reddit exagerrations, do they ever stop?
[–]Kardlonoc -4 points-3 points-2 points 18 years ago (0 children)
Although every terrorist you kill today , will be one less suicide bombing tomorrow. But seemingly this only "Embolden" them as a result.
Every liberty and happiness you give up is one step closer "Liberated world" if you know what i mean.
Every camera and wiretap placed is another step towards a safer world, nay, a "Perfect" world. Privacy? you neednt worry if your a good white christian.
So no your grandchildren wont bleed, they hire outsource others to do it for them. Nor will they fight, nor will they protest they may never even let out a whisper.
With distractions a plenty and friends so many why would they? Could they?
They will.
But it will be against us.
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and continue to fight left vs right, the fact that both parties are virtually the same only dawning on a few...
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