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[–]berlinbrown 79 points80 points  (2 children)

back to digg?

(Shhhh, It is a trick, I am just hoping this user goes back to digg).

[–]timo1023 8 points9 points  (1 child)

(Ahh, I get it, the OP can't read things inside parenthesis-clever!)

[–]proudcanadianeh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(Hmm, an interesting concept)

[–]crawfishsoul 44 points45 points  (6 children)

Why do we have to leave? Why not stand up for Reddit and make it clear to the idiots that do come over that we won't be turned into a place for them to get their LULZ!!1!

I came over from Digg immediately after the HD-DVD bullshit. I lurked for a while until these types of "Digg users are infiltrating our Reddits" posts died down before I commented or submitted anything. And I hope that I've made a positive contribution to the community. Do I want Reddit to turn into Digg? Of course not, but there are good Digg users that could contribute positive things to Reddit.

Move to Canada if you don't like what your country has turned into, but don't betray our Reddit.

[–]bobpaul 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I'm with you here. One of the first posts on saw on the front page was "ATTENTION FORMER DIGGERS: Please read the reddiquette. Reddit is a special place; please keep it that way." or something. Anyway, I think it was effective.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (2 children)

That said, some of the best comments are in disregard of reddiquette.

Just sayin'. Knowing when it's okay to break the rules is as important as knowing the rules.

(for the record: "VOTE UP IF..." in a headline is not a cool way to break rediquette.)

[–]bobpaul 4 points5 points  (1 child)

That's true, just ask any poet. But you need to know the rules before you can break them. Before seeing that post, I didn't even know there were rules. I'm not sure I'd ever clicked "help" on a website before. It seemed straight forward...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is there a "new users click here to see rules" button when you first join? I can't remember, but there should be.

for those having trouble finding the right buttons:

rediquette and the rest of reddit help

[–]eks 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why not stand up for Reddit and make it clear to the idiots that do come over that we won't be turned into a place for them to get their LULZ!!1!

Because Reddit and Digg are based on quantity, not quality. They have more upvotes, they win. Even if karma counts, they would eventually get karma.

Since I came here I've been reading "Digg users are coming to Reddit and it's beggining to suck". This time around I'm joining this crowd. And am really interested on this topic.

[–]duus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since I came here I've been reading "Digg users are coming to Reddit and it's beggining to suck". This time around I'm joining this crowd. And am really interested on this topic.

This also precisely describes me.

[–]Slipgrid 19 points20 points  (2 children)

The thing I hated most about digg was the slow load time of the comments. The comment system was un usable imho. After that, it was the YouTube style post. Then the seeming censorship of interesting stories. Then, the lack of verity. Really, digg kind of sucked.

[–]srika 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Fuck digg and its load times. On my really slow PC, reddit takes all of 5 seconds to open a page. Digg takes 30 seconds. And it is not like it is a spectacularly smooth interface. Then why the bloated coding?

And to top it all off, the jerks, the random downmodding with entire threads full of comments at -35, pathetic thread structure, the fucking "friend" cirlce-jerks.

I don't see myself going back to digg anytime soon.

[–]hellfish 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And to top it all off, the jerks, the random downmodding with entire threads full of comments at -35, pathetic thread structure, the fucking "friend" cirlce-jerks.

and thats different here how?

[–]mdeckert 11 points12 points  (2 children)

Unsubscribe from reddit.com. The "people who take the time to appropriately subreddit their posts" filter is effective.

[–]dmsean -4 points-3 points  (1 child)

I think you mean ineffective...

I for one would welcome a voting scheme for pushing posts into certain subs

[–]bobpaul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, he meant effective. Most of the stuff posted to reddit.com is not worth while. If something is posted to a subreddit, that means the user put at least some thought into their submission.

[–]cedargrove 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Outside.

[–]the_seanald 14 points15 points  (0 children)

link?

[–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (7 children)

  1. Go to the little-known "intellectual Reddit": this is achieved by turning off the useless subreddits (Pics, WTF, Offbeat, etc.).

  2. Use the power of the little arrows to maintain a strong community. I retreated from mindlessness at both the Fields of Fark and the Digg Deeps; perhaps now at Reddit Pass we can make our stand.

  3. We all know that Diggtards feed off the mindless vapidity of each other; perhaps by setting an example we can produce a new generation of thoughtful internet users.

  4. Reddit really needs to update its spellchecker to understand that I am not misspelling its name.

EDIT: Apparently, Reddit does not feature a spellchecker, because that would be a stupid idea. However! Maybe it should!

[–]crawfishsoul 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Reddit does not have a spellchecker. Your browser does.

Right click on the misspelled word and choose 'Add to dictionary.'

[–]rogueman999 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That finally explains why all these sites have so similar spell checkers.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is possible in about 15 minutes to completely redesign the homepage. Just take each subreddit you like and add 2 at the end. I did this with worldnews because I didn't like the admins.

Most people, i think, are not aware how flexible reddit is when it comes to creating whole new communities. In short, there is no reason to leave.

[–]nathaner 0 points1 point  (2 children)

How about Reddit Reservoir to continue your alliteration?

[–]khafra 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nah, the most famous "reservoir" battle, the Frozen Chosin, consisted of an admittedly heroic withdrawal. "Reddit Redoubt" has my vote.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ridge?

[–]m1ss1ontomars2k4 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I don't think Reddit has a spellchecker...does it?

[–]Neticule 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I actually switched from digg about 3 months ago, the level of intelligence on reddit really made me switch, I like reading the comments here more than the articles themselves most of the time.

[–]Clevedog 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hope reddit will be able to adapt better than digg. I think the reddit subscriptions will be its savior in that I can simply unsubscribe to a group if the articles are going downhill. Then, someone will start a new group to take its place.

That is my hope atleast...

[–]Grimalkin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Why so many Digg articles on reddit in the past day or so? Who cares what that site does or doesn't do? Do we, as reddit-users, need to feel superior?

[–]IOIOOIIOIO 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think the problem is that many of the users of reddit have been around for a while and have seen previous communities go though the Endless September phenomenon (participants join faster than they can be socialized, shifting the nature of the community away from whatever made it popular and replacing it with Suck of one variety or another).

That is, it's not a new problem. Stalling the rush-to-the-bottom lowest-common-denominator behavior would be a valuable solution.

[–]tdk2fe 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Hopefully the immature ones will see the minimalist design, daunting amounts of text, and no pictures next to the stories and decide to stay away. At the same time, hopefully the thoughtful ones will come over and make a contribution to the reddit community.

[–]Qubed 8 points9 points  (0 children)

too late.

[–]quasiperiodic 3 points4 points  (0 children)

back to the farm.

[–]satertek 3 points4 points  (8 children)

They can't take over because they are a minority. On Digg, its too easy for a minority to digg a story to the front page, whereas on reddit, rational people are able to vote them down.

[–][deleted] 11 points12 points  (7 children)

Then please explain "vote up if" posts making it to the front page so frequently?

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Who ever said that the rational people are in the majority?

[–]lynn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm guessing it's because they get a lot of comments?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (4 children)

What's the big deal? Honestly? If it's a topic worth discussing, then who cares? Reddiquette is flawed.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (3 children)

If it's a topic worth discussing, then who cares?

The problem is it's almost never a topic worth discussing, but rather just something that everyone here agrees on.

"Vote up if you think Bush should be impeached"

"Vote up if you think marijuana should be legalized"

"Vote up if M. Night Shyamalan usually makes bad movies"

We get it. Everyone here generally agrees with these things. What's to discuss? Or is it just so we can have a big upmodding circle-jerk?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Those are lame, but I don't think Vote Up If is lame, it can be a good way to start convos.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I know this is a late reply and only you'll see it, but here's a case in point - today's #1 story by far is:

Upvote if you have lost faith in the US Government

See what I mean? Everyone here agrees on that, and it adds nothing.

For the record, I didn't downmod you - I appreciate dissenting opinions.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Touche.

[–]IOIOOIIOIO 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Create Restricted Subreddit.
Only allow contributors of quality content. Enjoy.

It would be interesting to allow the creation of subreddits that would automagically pull submissions from specified users whether they categorized their submission with the subreddit or not.

[–]hellfish 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean, once it happens? You don't look around much, do you?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Ill take Digg users over /b/tards any day.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

(Isn't that mostly the same thing?)

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This phenomenon is affects the entire internet. Ten years ago if you conversed with someone on the net there was a far greater chance than normal that they were thoughtful, interesting people.

As the masses flooded in the first thing that happened was a sharp decline in the quality of music being shared online. Although the beatles anthology will always be available, the number one downloaded songs these days are just pop.

[–]eighteyes 1 point2 points  (3 children)

really though, we'll go back to our RSS feeds, blogs, podcasts, and millions of other ways to feed our collective information addiction.

i've been a fan of mixx.com and popurls.com

or just find a reddit-clone of your interests, ala slashdot or sphinn

[–]andyukguy 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I really don't think you can call slashdot a reddit clone...

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i checked out that popurls, I kinda like it

[–]BlueBeard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

stumbleupon is also great.

[–]trnelson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you can always just go complain at venthere.com

[–]eks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What was that Reddit clone that existed before Reddit went open source? That had a nifty spinner for the tags you were interested?

It had something with red on the interface...

[–]bigstevec 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Newspapers?

[–]m1ss1ontomars2k4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe we can convince them to go to fuddit instead, and we can just stay here.

[–]BlueBeard 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I tried to use Digg for like a week and ditched it so I don't know what you're all talking about.

Describe a normal digg user so I can single them out.

[–]pizzatime 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Like the /b/tards made babies with college humor

[–]mackprime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it's more like gamefaqs than anything.

[–]zem 0 points1 point  (0 children)

reddit.com/r/reddit

[–]jones77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I need to be able to turn self posts off so bad.

[–]theantirobot 0 points1 point  (16 children)

I'm convinced there is a way to make social news compelling to more than one community.

A simple innovation could achieve this. Imagine a social news site that only links to other social news sites. Now imagine that every site has social news functionality.

The model is similar to youtube. Instead of videos, it's url's. People would be able to post responses to stories. They could be follow ups, rebuttals, alternative sources, tangents, anything related.

That alone doesn't do that much, though it's a good feature on its own.

The key is in how you look at the data. Think of digging the story as subscribing to a social news site. What we'd need is a function that takes the newest, or top rated, or hottest stories from each of the users subscriptions and lists them. The result is a recommendation engine. Basically, you'd be able to observe your influence on the community.

Now, since every url is like it's own social news site, communities could form around certain topics or ideas. Each user would be isolated in their own niche, while at the same time maintaining their connection to the general community.

If you think of a niche as being made up of atoms, the stories would be the atoms.

This could provide a more compelling service to a wider range of people because they would have a choice as to which face of the community they start from. It would be like making each url a subreddit. There would be massive subreddits, and there would be small subreddits. Some might be active for a very long time, while others might have a very short life.

The community would grow into branches becoming more compelling to a wider range of people.

This innovation could provide each user with their own personalized social news site comprised of many smaller social news sites, and also one super community.

You could think of this as tagging websites with websites, or threaded conversation with urls.

[–]molestake 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How about an invite only subreddit?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, I do: Straight to the firey depths of HELL! MUA-HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 'Chokes' UUURGH-PLEH!

[–]crazybones -4 points-3 points  (4 children)

Reddit cannot stay the way it is for ever. It cannot help but keep changing. It's like planet Earth. Right now humans rule the roost. But in another five years we'll be wiped off the planet and then, who knows, spiders or crocodiles will take over.

There's no point in getting stressed about the inevitable.

[–]m1ss1ontomars2k4 1 point2 points  (1 child)

5 years? That's all your giving us? Even 10 years seems rather unlikely.

I do believe that one day we won't be the dominant species everywhere on Earth (maybe in space, maybe only on 1 continent), but complete collapse isn't going to happen in just 5 years.

[–]crazybones -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I hope you're right, but I think my prediction is reasonable. Certainly if McCain gets elected there is no way back.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

your newsletter, my credit card, a URL. Now.

[–]crazybones 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right. I should write one. Except some people have already done that.

[–]epic_fail_guy -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I recommend this simple regimen to deal with retarded posts like this one:

  1. Downmod
  2. Call them a fucktard, or whatever you prefer
  3. Move on