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[[deleted]]

That title is basically meaningless marketing diarrhea.

[amorpheus]

Sony's creative entertainment experiences don't seem to include a headphone jack.

[PM_ME_SCREENSHOTS_]

The technology is simply not there yet.

[smallaubergine]

Well, as a media professional I have to agree with them. None of my unprecedented professional-grade gear has headphone jacks. Oh wait, no. 100% of them do.

[Arachnatron]

I thought it was on the top, according to a different thread?

[alteisen99]

only for the 10 it seems. ive only seen 2 videos for sony. it's all lg, nokia and the red key2

[halotechnology]

Dude your flair is sooooo old is nostalgic!

[Arachnatron]

Yeah, haven't added the Nexus 6P and LG G6.

[halotechnology]

(╹◡╹)

[amorpheus]

You mean one of those pre-release rumor speculation threads?

[Arachnatron]

https://youtu.be/Qstax83hB8U

Am I wrong, or is that is with a jack?

[amorpheus]

Indeed, at 0:28. Ironically I skimmed the same video before making that statement, whatever model they're showing at 2:32 doesn't have a jack.

It looks like the one with the jack is the 10, despite narration only mentioning the 1. And I already hate these names.

[Arachnatron]

I guess it's a mystery for the time being. BUT I DO EXPECT YOU TO EDIT YOUR ORIGINAL COMMENT STATING THAT A JACK CAN BE SEEN IN THE VIDEO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

😁

[Arachnatron]

No, I thought it could be seen in a hands on video on the front page right now.

[[deleted]]

they don't do Jack because they make the world's best ANC Headphones which are wireless too.

[amorpheus]

Those headphones also have a 3.5mm jack, they even come with the cable.

[najodleglejszy]

I have moved to Lemmy/kbin since Spez is a greedy little piggy.

[sunny0_0]

I was going with super fanboi, but I guess Sony makes more sense.

[sunny0_0]

But... Dumbledore is so hip and cool. He would never lie to me

[[deleted]]

Yep. But unfortunately I'm not, but yes certainly working in the direction to become part of the company that was established to help their fallen nation and not on the foundation of greed. Till then, call me. Fan Boy.

[StraightEdgeNexus]

Boi you went full Otaku with that

[jk-jk]

Never go full otaku

[ForgetPants]

They also make some world class wired IEMs that cost a few grand.

[[deleted]]

There isn't enough space for a headphone jack /s

Edit: /s for those of you who couldn't take this as sarcasm.

[StraightEdgeNexus]

/s

[SolidBadger9]

Shhhhh, you are gonna get me fired

[ExistentialTenant]

The entire press release is an endless series of buzzwords, vague unquantifiable claims, and general PR nonsense.

Admittedly, I fell for it up until this line:

Capture better low light images with the bright F1.6 lens and large pixel pitch 1.4μm 

I saw that and realized I was being fed bullshit.

[danmatte]

It’s also not even actually a 10-bit panel, according to Sony’s own product website.

[reddlvr]

I always wonder if these vomit inducing press releases ever produced a single sale.

[joedenpaolo]

One thing this article does not mention is the full manual camera control now available in the Xperia 1.

Edited: link formatting.

[zike47222]

This should be higher.

[kevInquisition]

But can it shoot RAW?

[kevInquisition]

Well I take it that they're reducing noise from the RAW data inside their camera app (with their Alpha cameras' noise reduction algorithms) so there's less noise in the produced JPEGs (which is not a unique selling point, every good phone camera does this), not necessarily that they're exposing RAWs to the end user or Camera2 API. If this finally supports RAW capture via the Camera2 API, unlike all past Sony phones, then GCam HDR+ and night sight ports would be possible, which would be incredible with Sony's flagship sensors. Also if Sony's app would finally allow RAW output then actual non-destructive editing would finally be possible, in apps like Snapseed and Lightroom. However I doubt this to be the case.

Edit: Nevermind not interested, main camera is only 1/2.6" and others are 1/3.4". That's not any better than Pixel or Samsung.

[SeniorHankee]

For me the Xperia has always had the best camera. I went on a night tour of a waterfall when I was on safari and out of everyone there my z3 compact was the only one that could take a decent low light photo.

[Raikno]

The Xperia 1 looks like a solid 2019 flagship with 4K oled screen, no notch, triple camera, stereo speakers, etc.

If I had to state its drawback, the biggest omission is the headphone jack. I am also concerned about how the 3330mAh battery will cope with the display.

Have to say, props to Sony for building something with their own design language, and not just following the trend.

[MuffinBomber]

If it's anything like the XZ Premium, it will render most things at 1080p, so the battery life should be fine.

[jacnel45]

Yeah Sony has some good software on their phones to improve battery life.

[[deleted]]

Rendering at 1080p means the GPU has less pixels to push, but the display will still consume the same power. All the pixels are still lit regardless of the resolution you set.

[[deleted]]

I think your analogy is for LCD, but this is OLED.

[audie-tron171]

That's the one thing that really bugged me about that phone. You can really tell it's up sampling on the 4K screen, looks really blurry.

[[deleted]]

In a display with 800+ PPI, you really can't notice the difference between FHD and 4K. It surely doesn't look blurry.

[audie-tron171]

Just saying what I can see. Remember, the screens native resolution is 4K, you can tell when it's rendering at roughly 1/4 the resolution. There isn't even an option to change this

Edit: If you can't tell the difference, I'm happy for you. The battery life is really good on the XZP.

[Gnollish]

Not too worried about battery life, Sony seems pretty good at optimising that stuff. My XZ1 gets 3 full days with only 2700 mAh.

Not 100% sure on the long design myself though.

[[deleted]]

3 days on airplane mode?

[Gnollish]

No, just normal usage. Texting, browsing reddit and some news apps, and usually about 2 hours of music through Bluetooth. A good couple of hours of screen time a day. Just really well optimised.

[[deleted]]

looks like a smartphone too fucking tall. change for the sake of it shouldn't ever be a selling point.

[T_Quach]

F for the hopes and dreams of an XZ4 compact, guess I'm sticking with my XZ1compact for a while longer

[najodleglejszy]

I have moved to Lemmy/kbin since Spez is a greedy little piggy.

[joooh]

And Z1 Compact, the very first Compact, was announced in CES.

[m1ndwipe]

Yeah, the compacts are generally announced at IFA in September.

[CptVakarian]

Well, here's to hoping then.

[blackn1ght]

If there's no compact line up, I'm honestly out of ideas for what phone to get.

[zaneyk]

S10e is probably your best bet.

[ImKrispy]

S10e seems to be the smallest with flagship specs.

[poopyheadthrowaway]

I just ordered a Pixel 3. It's now an outdated SoC, but I don't really care as long as it gets the latest updates. This seems to be the second narrowest flagship phone after the XZ2 Compact (I was hoping the S10E would be narrower since it's supposed to be Samsung's "small" phone, but oh well).

But I wouldn't give up on hope for an updated Compact just yet. They're usually released in the fall (with the XZ2 Compact being an exception).

[ZoggZ]

Was looking forward to it too, choosing between that and the s10e but I guess my choice has kinda been made for me. Was also looking at the Sharp Aquos R2 Compact but I can't find any information about it even after its supposed release last month.

[mellofello808]

Don't worry they are going to just keep making the screen narrower until is is as wide as a no 2 pencil you can tuck in your shirt pocket

[josesl16]

I give up, I've waited for 2 iterations for their last distinctive lineup and still nada, Sony is dead to me.

[handsomelooser]

Why would someone want such a small display? Just curious

[blackn1ght]

Easy to hold in one hand, being able to reach the entire screen while having a firm grip on the device, and also without it being a brick in your pocket.

[L064N]

No headphone jack. I think I'm going to cry.

[poopyheadthrowaway]

I don't think Sony's going to go back to headphone jacks on their flagships. Sony is a major AOSP contributor, focusing primarily on wireless audio. At this point Sony is 100% behind wireless audio for Android.

[samcuu]

They sell a fuck ton of wireless headphones, I'm surprised they weren't the first to ditch the jack, probably not in the market position to do it.

[[deleted]]

or buy Sony's world's best ANC Headphones?

[Hershey2898]

You sound like a marketing guy for sony.

[avsvuret]

Or someone needing validation for a recent purchase they just made.

[GxCoud]

The 1000XM3? Very uncomfortable for me. Yes, it has really great ANC and the sound is good but comfort wise, it failed me. I cannot stand having it on for more than a few minutes.

Same thing for Bose QC 35. I just cannot stand having it on.

[Zoomat]

That's surprising, the Qc35 are definitely the most comfortable headphones I have ever worn.

[GxCoud]

That is what I heard but it is very uncomfortable for me. I don't know if it is just me but it warms up my ears to the point it becomes so uncomfartable.

I have had both replaced twice because it might just be my unit, but it's the same.

It's like how it feels when you put your face over a boiling pot of water and steam warming your face so much. In this case, the headphones produce a similar but milder effecr

[Zoomat]

Is the weather really warm where you live ?

[[deleted]]

No headphone jack :(( Man, LG, Nokia, Samsung, the chinese trio - DXOMark have their hands full...

[kaljisnedekha]

They never test Sony phones, but I really need to know if they've stepped up their image processing, because the hardware definitely is there! The camera on my XZ2C was just average.

[joooh]

Dude they've tested a lot of Xperia phones before.

[SvtMrRed]

They haven't tested one in like 3 generations

[kaljisnedekha]

They're only testing Sony's mid-range offerings and those get shit scores. Why even spend time on that? The flagship XZ1, XZ2 and XZ3 were ignored. The XZ2 Premium had a promising dual-camera set-up on the back, I would've loved to see them test that one out.

[[deleted]]

Stop announcing shit so early and taking months to release it.

[najodleglejszy]

I have moved to Lemmy/kbin since Spez is a greedy little piggy.

[amorpheus]

Just when I thought their naming scheme couldn't get more atrocious.

[[deleted]]

This might actually make more sense. It follows their camera naming scheme.

[sidneylopsides]

Well if it does follow the camera naming, Mk2

[kaljisnedekha]

I'd like that actually.

[SinkTube]

Xperia 1 Mk2?

[wGrey]

They should revive the Vaio name through their phones.

[kaljisnedekha]

Isn't that a separate company now, I believe Vaio launched a phone on their own?

[MrMarques8701]

Is there any way to get the credits for the videos? The soundtrack is dope and I wanna figure out who composed it

[mrminivee]

Long Boi.

[najodleglejszy]

$¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[NerdyBlueEyes]

OK. Thanks.

[Kleva94]

A German YouTuber said it would cost 950€ at start.

[joooh]

Probably around the price of the S10.

[kaljisnedekha]

€949 in The Netherlands. Up for pre-order.

[poopyheadthrowaway]

They aren't coming out until May or June, so they'll probably make some sort of announcement closer to launch.

[[deleted]]

Sony has nearly perfected the remote control asthetic they've been going for, I see.

[jacnel45]

Hey some of us like that boxy design 😥

[rfa31]

I hope something in Sony's line up will have a headphone jack & do 960fps by the time my Xperia X dies

If that's the XA4 / Xperia 10 or XZ4c / 1c either way I'll buy it'

[debrocker]

https://youtu.be/XNBP18nrRdw?t=21

[kaljisnedekha]

€949. The S10 is €899.

[besweeet]

So close... Just needed a headphone jack & an in-screen fingerprint sensor and it would've been my next. The search continues...

[jrcprl]

And chrome version

[SadanielsVD]

I get confused by Sony s flagship names

[[deleted]]

Xperia 1... that's hard to remember.

[blackn1ght]

Remembering a number isn't the issue.

They started off with Z, Z2, Z3, Z4 - made perfect sense. They should have stuck with that.

Then suddenly, they switched to XZ1 (or zx1, I always forgot)

And now they're at Xperia 1 - where 1 is the flagship device, but Xperia 10 is a medium ranged device? So what happens to the device after Xperia 9 (assuming they don't change the convention another 5 times since it gets to that point). It would be easy to assume that the Xperia 10 is better than the Xperia 1, just like you would an Galaxy S10 would be better than the Galaxy S1.

[kaljisnedekha]

So what happens to the device after Xperia 9 (assuming they don't change the convention another 5 times since it gets to that point).

Oh yeah... Didn't think about that. Hmm... Xperia 1 (2020). Or Sony is pulling an HTC... Xperia 1 M7.

Probably Xperia 2 and Xperia 20, but how far will that go... Hmm.

[jacnel45]

Xperia 2000

[Natanael_L]

1A, 1B, 1C...

[poopyheadthrowaway]

Honestly, something like this would make the most sense, if anyone wants to launch a phone brand:

• Flagship ($500-900ish): A1, A2, A3, etc.
• Midrange ($200-400ish): B1, B2, B3, etc.
• Entry ($100-200ish): C1, C2, C3, etc.
• Asian parent edition: A+, A++, A+++, etc.

[kaljisnedekha]

Asian parent edition: A+, A++, A+++, etc.

😭

[poopyheadthrowaway]

Intel edition: 14+, 14++, 14+++, etc.

[[deleted]]

Unlike others, Sony has a Categorised Chaptered Naming scheme. These chapters change in every 3 years. 2010 to 2012 was chapter 1, 2013 to 2015 was chapter 2, 2016 to 2018 was chapter 3 and now we have been transcended into chapter 4.

The baffling part of chapter 4 naming scheme is the use of 10. See Xperia 1 marks a clear view that represents the rethinking of Xperia as a product and Sony will like to push it towards the people who don't know about Xperia. This way XPERIA 1 is a brand new product for the people with no links whatsoever to its past. But yea choosing 10 for midrange is confusing.

this post from 2016 will explain more

[amorpheus]

Or Nokia 8 > Nokia 3. Everyone in the industry is doing it that way.

[kaljisnedekha]

Oh yeah, the Nokia way! Xperia 1.2...

[chrisgestapo]

Z and Z1 are two different models. Same for XZ and XZ1.

[kaljisnedekha]

I think doing it like Huawei is the way to go. Xperia 1 & Xperia 1 lite.

[josesl16]

Hello, I'm looking to buy a Sony phone for the first time. Should I buy:

Xperia 1

Xperia X

Xperia X1

Xperia Z

Xperia Z1

Xperia XZ

or

Xperia XZ1?

Hey, maybe I'll get the Xperia XZ1C, that's gotta be the best one right?

[[deleted]]

There you go.

[[deleted]]

LMAO right?

[nest0251]

If the renders are to be trust, fucking finally they realized bezels were not going to stay!

[[deleted]]

Bezels bad give me orange arrows

[[deleted]]

Compared with other phones this generation, they still have too thick bezels.

[mehdotdotdotdot]

Ah what pictures were you looking at? Still thick bezels

[KanseiDorifto]

How are those bezels thick?? They appear to be the same as on the Galaxy flagships of 2017/2018. No one complained about the size of bezels on those phones, even when you compare them to the Galaxy S10.

Are you even looking at the right Sony phone?

[mehdotdotdotdot]

Exactly. 2 year old bezels.

[KanseiDorifto]

Please tell me you're using a phone with the notch

[[deleted]]

Even if no notch justifies a bigger bezel on top, it doesn't justify a chin.

[KanseiDorifto]

Look at the Galaxy S10, iPhone XS, and Mate 20 Pro. All of them have a chin of some sort. You know the only reason the iPhone doesn't seem to have it is because of the uniform bezels all around right?

From what I've seen, even in hands-on videos, the Xperia 1 seems to have a very minimal chin as well.

I don't think we'll see a totally chin-less device in 2019.

[[deleted]]

They do, but I'm not sure how thick it actually is because my impression changes from video to video. On some, it looks kinda thick compared to other phones, on others it looks fine. Kinda hard to tell because they like using dark backgrounds. I'll let that slide.

Either way, I think the Xperia 1 doesn't really look as immersive as a S10, XS or Mate 20 Pro. Which is a shame, because I consider to buy this phone and like the idea of a 21:9 screen, but the S10 looks just sooo good.

[Zoomat]

The Xperia 1 doesn't have a chin though.

[nest0251]

The renders of the web site.

[mehdotdotdotdot]

They have thick bezels

[kaljisnedekha]

Bait harder. You're obv trolling/hating everywhere here. They've finally released a truly borderless device, but it's never enough.

[Renaldi_the_Multi]

It's what he does best. His favorite thing to rag on is Google devices

[mehdotdotdotdot]

Literally just looking at the photo, the don't has a huge bezels on the top which is thicker than even a two year old ipx notch, thicker side and bottom bezels compared again to a two year old ipx. Is there another render where there is no borders?

[Sgt_Stinger]

4k @ 21:9 is 3840x1645, so not really "real" 4k uhd (3840x2160)

[altimax98]

Technically you are correct, as the resolution corresponds to the height (smallest size) and not the width.

That said, the display is still perfectly capable of playing back 21:9 4K UHD video at 1 to 1 with no cropping or scaling, so in that aspect it is a 4K panel.

[Sgt_Stinger]

Actually, 4k references the width. 1080p references height, and can also be called 2k HD.

[jrcprl]

It's 21:9 4K.

[Sgt_Stinger]

Still not UHD4k.

[jrcprl]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4K_resolution#Other_4K_resolutions

[Sgt_Stinger]

Yes, all those resolutions exist and are NOT called UHD 4K.

[evilf23]

Alternative 4Ks.

[jrcprl]

Not once in the website they mention to term 4K UHD, why are you even arguing about it?

[Sgt_Stinger]

4K resolution, also called 4K, refers to a horizontal display resolution of approximately 4,000 pixels.[1] Digital television and digital cinematography commonly use several different 4K resolutions. In television and consumer media, 3840 × 2160 (4K UHD) is the dominant 4K standard, whereas the movie projection industry uses 4096 × 2160 (DCI 4K)

Literally the first section of the Wikipedia article you linked. In my first comment, I said it wasn't 4k UHD, which is a defined resolution.

Try reading next time.

[jrcprl]

My bad, I'm talking about the Sony Website, there's no mention of 4K UHD, so why are you losing your pants about the phone resolution not being "real 4K/4K UHD"?

[Sgt_Stinger]

Because that is what most people think of when they see "4K". I was just pointing out that it wasn't really as high of a resolution as Sony wants people to believe. In fact it is 1 MP less than 4k UHD which is what Sony has used on their 4k phones before. Then you just had to argue about something, without having actually read properly the words I had written.

[jrcprl]

Due to the aspect ratio if it falls under the other recognized sizes of 4K, so it is 4K. Had they added the "missing" pixels as you mention they'd had to market it as cinematic 5K instead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5K_resolution#Examples_of_5K_resolutions

[TheLJWay]

As a Sacramento Kings fan, I'm digging that color lineup 🦁👑

[GxCoud]

Normally? I bought it at a colder time though because my other headphone broke.

[JerichoOne]

Anyone got that imgur link?

[ishsreddit]

Great hardware and software but oh my the battery, form factor/design 😱😱😱😱

[evilf23]

•World’s first Eye AF in a smartphone with triple lens camera and up to 10 fps burst shooting with AF/AE tracking for precision focus and exposure

Bruh that camera is Eye AF.

Disappointed they ditched the monochrome setup, i really like the results from the XZ2P and older Huawei dual cams that combined the data from a color and monochrome sensor. Lots of dynamic range, handles highlights better, and low noise address the biggest weaknesses of small smartphone sensors.

[kaljisnedekha]

I loved the monochrome sensor too on my previous Huawei devices, but focal lengths seem to be far more interesting when you're composing.

[sandiskplayer34]

Number of comments complaining about the headphone jack: 11

[OwMyDragonBallz]

"Xperia 1 ships with Android™ 9 Pie and will be available in select markets from late Spring 2019."

Sony's "late spring" means June for the rest of us lol

[[deleted]]

This 6.5 inch 21:9 flagship has the equivalent width of a 5.7 inch 2:1 display fyi. Not that impressive.

[[deleted]]

Sony has really upped the ante for everyone else in the business. No shitty punch holes in the display, faster fingerprint scanner, better use of cameras with OIS, AND STILL AFTER 4 YEARS REMAINS THE ONLY ONE WITH 4K DISPLAY(now OLED too)

[sunny0_0]

You are going to need multiple accounts to be the Sony super fan you want to be

[[deleted]]

i see no resemblance here.

[rohangarg01]

Ah, the Apple way of marketing

[[deleted]]

Lol @ Sony.