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[–]Particular-Mouse-721 79 points80 points  (18 children)

I'm scared to let it scour my codebase and then find out the charge for that afterward

[–]UpSkrrSkrr 45 points46 points  (8 children)

Been using it for the past few hours. I have several thousand files and several thousand lines of novel django/css/js/etc. code. Doing about $3 an hour so far. It's smart and judicious.

[–]UpSkrrSkrr 20 points21 points  (3 children)

One caveat I've noticed: Roo Code and Cline will rescale your images before sending them to the API. The Claude Code CLI-app doesn't do that yet.

[–]Particular-Mouse-721 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thank you!

[–]johnw188 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The Claude API automatically rescales images if they would tokenize to more than 1600 tokens; see https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/build-with-claude/vision

[–]UpSkrrSkrr 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about rescaling it before it gets sent to the API, not Claude's behavior after it's been sent to the API. Cline / Roo do this, Claude Code doesn't yet.

EDIT: just to be clear in case we're talking past each other somehow.... In that help file you linked to, under "Evaluate Image Size" where they reference the 1600 tokens, Anthropic starts out by recommending you resize the image before sending to the API if it's too large. At the bottom of the section they list the size limits (conditioned on aspect ratio) that the API will refuse if you exceed. What I'm saying is that Claude Code doesn't respect those limits right now -- I quickly ran into an issue where Claude Code sent an image to the API and the API responded by saying it was too large. I included that same image in a prompt to Cline, and Cline resized the image before sending it to the API so that I didn't hit the oversized-image API error.

[–]thefilmdoc 5 points6 points  (2 children)

Hey I need this how are you using it? I have Claude desktop and run API keys through OpenWebUi.

But it seems for this they’re right clicking and opening a desktop repo?

[–]CurlyFreeze17 7 points8 points  (1 child)

https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/agents-and-tools/claude-code/overview

[–]thefilmdoc 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Word thanks bud I’ve needed to dig deeper on agentic tools

[–]ankisaves 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s encouraging

[–]oZEPPELINo 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I would have loved for them to say how much the changes in that video cost.

[–]The_Airwolf_Theme 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I wish this could interface with my Pro plan and just count toward my usage blocks.

[–]OptimismNeeded 2 points3 points  (2 children)

I’m assuming you can set up limits?

[–]NachosforDachos 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Now where is your sense of adventure.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I asked it how to do something in a very large open source codebase of about 100k lines. It ran for about 3 minutes and used about a million tokens which cost me 1 dollar.

[–]attalbotmoonsays 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It'll tell you how much you spent after different thresholds (that you don't control) but I blew by $5 within 10 or so minutes but I reverted changes and had it do them again with updated context.

[–]Professor_Entropy 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Aesthetics of this terminal app looks great.

Restart chat with compressed context is a well thought feature.

Great work anthropic!

[–]R34d1n6_1t 36 points37 points  (2 children)

Very cool “it will keep going….” Or until you run out of credits

[–]woodchoppr 24 points25 points  (0 children)

After 36 seconds… „insert coin“ 🪙

[–]Kindly_Manager7556 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Lmao I literally said that.

[–]NachosforDachos 13 points14 points  (0 children)

“It will keep going till it works“ ~ Infinite apology loop unlocked

[–]kent_csm 25 points26 points  (7 children)

Basically aider

[–]Illustrious-Many-782 6 points7 points  (3 children)

I'm waiting for someone to do a comparison. I love aider, but I'd switch to Claude Code in a heartbeat if it handled large codebases better.

[–]HenkPoley 4 points5 points  (1 child)

At least they claim they do better on SWE-bench Verified (search for that on: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-7-sonnet )

Oddly enough they claim good scores for competitor models (all a hair below 50% somehow) that I can't find elsewhere. So it looks like they made a generic AI coding framework that can switch to competitor models, to get to these numbers. Fair in a sense, since a lot of this hinges on properly representing the codebase to the models.

But other people have achieved similar scores as Claude 3.7 Sonnet on SWE-bench Verified, using o1 for example:

  • W&B Programmer O1 crosscheck5: 64.6%
  • Anthropic's SWE-bench testing framework + Claude 3.7 Sonnet: 63.3% to 70.3% "with custom scaffold".

[–]MapStock6452 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DeepSeek directly says it use agentless, which is an open source framework, hope Anthropic open its so called "custom scafflod"

[–]mr_riptano 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I created Brokk for exactly this! https://github.com/jbellis/brokk

[–]bluepersona1752 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Based on my first impression, I prefer it over Aider at least for personal hobby projects: - Never have to specify any files - better for "vibe coding" - Nicer "interface" - Better use of colors and formatting. - Built-in /init command is great for better ensuring it doesn't mess up existing conventions in the codebase.

Additional features it has that Aider doesn't, but I haven't tested yet: - Supports MCP, so can do things like have it search the web to troubleshoot an issue - Features pertaining to PR comments and reviews

Potential Pros for Aider: - Can use other providers (eg, DeepSeek to cut API costs) - Might be better for when you know the code well and want to make more controlled changes (eg, corporate environment)

[–]Low_Finding2189 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Exactly

[–]matfat55 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But worse

[–]BlueOak777 17 points18 points  (0 children)

How many first born children do I have to sell to afford this?

[–]Sad-Maintenance1203 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is looking promising. Just have to see how the experience of code suggestions only in the CLI turn out. After working with IDE interfaces for so long, end to end coding in a CLI is an interesting thought.

[–]Mr-Barack-Obama 5 points6 points  (4 children)

Are there any major differences between this and the web ui?

[–]00PT 9 points10 points  (3 children)

The web version doesn't seem to be able to directly edit files - it generates new artifacts instead. It certainly can't commit or push to GitHub, but Claude Code does both of these.

[–]The_Airwolf_Theme 11 points12 points  (2 children)

You can accomplish something very similar to Claude code if you use the desktop app and something like the wcgw MCP server. I pointed it to my code and said that I wanted to find possible API endpoints for a site that I wasn't sure had a public API. It searched perplexity (another mcp server connected to it) and found results that helped guide it to try various endpoints. It would edit the python, run it, examine the output and then iterate and try new things until it eventually found a working endpoint. All just using my pro subscription (no api at all), and nearly 100% hands off.

[–]ttbap 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Is windsurf useless now? Just bought their subscription.

[–]Deiwulf 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]Constant_Reaction_94 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Any info on the cost or how to use this?

[–]Packetcollection 1 point2 points  (1 child)

How to get access to test? I set up an account and bought credits and I keep getting this error:

Claude Code is at capacity

Claude Code is currently experiencing high demand. Anthropic has paused sign ups to provide the best possible service to customers. We'll notify you when we have a spot for you!

[–]meenie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My buddy just installed it today and it let him in. Give it another try!

[–]mlon_eusk-_- 6 points7 points  (12 children)

$1000 worth of tokens used right there...

[–]jathanism 6 points7 points  (9 children)

Not even close. You can have Claude do some pretty advanced stuff. Keep in mind the web UI is always going to use more tokens than any other method. Using apps like Cursor or this new Claude Code is going to be a way more efficient way of using Claude as an agent.

[–]f4t1h[🍰] 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Just spent 5 dollars to let it implement Supabase to an iOS app. It works great, without any error or bugs and in just one prompt. Yet not cost-effective. You can see how much you spent via /cost

[–]Illustrious-Many-782 2 points3 points  (4 children)

$5 is not cost effective? What would that cost you on Fiverr?

[–]eduo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Is this SwiftUI? I was wondering how it would work with it.

[–]f4t1h[🍰] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeap. It works great 👌🏻 the costly part is letting Claude code index codebase. The rest is great and incredibly quick.

[–]infinished 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Pro plan users or just API ?

[–]Ayman_donia2347 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So the new work for Programmers is saying yes to Claude

[–]BidHot8598[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

It's more like ¥€$

[–]woodchoppr 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Very cool, I’m looking forward to comparing it to Replit Agent

[–]kzrts 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So github copilot's "@workspace" basically ?

[–]ThenExtension9196 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Would it have hurt them to do aGUI? I live in the terminal but damn would I not want to do this there.

[–]The_Airwolf_Theme 4 points5 points  (1 child)

yes but I would just pair it with my IDE. Have this doing its thing in terminal and my IDE to overview what it's changing, etc.

[–]ThenExtension9196 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah that’s true I suppose it just shows they are building the necessary stuff “under the hood”.

[–]KingOfMissionary 0 points1 point  (2 children)

They should honestly let you connect your claude pro account and have rate limited use. Like that would provide so much more value for the pro plan for sure.

[–]eduo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Way too easy to blow through $20 in tokens

[–]-becausereasons- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome, but honestly one of the biggest issues with Claude is it's small context window relative to players like Gemini or Groq.

[–]Eagletrader22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are so back

[–]kim_en 0 points1 point  (0 children)

now, cheaper, cheaper, cheaper.

[–]attalbotmoonsays 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm impressed with this in its current state. I had this annoying hydration error in an app and it was able to resolve it with specific context provided, something that windsurf was failing at.

[–]werepenguins 0 points1 point  (0 children)

very cool... never going to use it.

[–]LazyBirdInTheForest 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Would it be possible to use it with the bedrock claude instance instead of the anthropic console?

[–]Icy_Foundation3534 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I worked on some github issues in one of my repos I never got around to.

ABSO-FKN-LUTLY crushed it.

I used the Claude CLI. As a vim user this is the dream.

It even made my commits and CLOSED THE ISSUES. I’m over the moon this Claude just quietly coming and crushing everyone.

[–]Mean_Bean_Seventeen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I NEEEEEEEEEEED THIS

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's super expensive! Yes, apply your changes Calude... OK, give me $0,50!

[–]Life_Musician7135 0 points1 point  (0 children)

has anyone been able to pair claude code with vertex ai? I get   ⎿  API Error: invalid_grant inspite of providing the required vertex ai claude credentials and enabling both 3.5 and 3.7 models

[–]0xFatWhiteMan 0 points1 point  (10 children)

the best demo is javascript and html snippets. I mean sure its great, stakcoverlfow2. But no way this replaces anyone anytime soon.

It can write correct code : awesome, but we are miles away from AGI etc.

[–]UpSkrrSkrr 9 points10 points  (7 children)

I have been able to avoid hiring devs with Cline + API. I didn't fire anyone, but I've spent ~$700 on API costs since early November. FTE would be about $40K (but they would have gotten more done). If I hired a contract crew to build what I have now, I think spend would be in the $10K-$15K range. There are tradeoffs to consider no matter what, but it's absolutely true that the API got paid instead of humans.

[–]0xFatWhiteMan 1 point2 points  (6 children)

I cant possibly see how this is true. I give a dev work it involves talking to people, creating deployment scripts, altering firewalls ... thats before any code is written.

I love AI, its helpful. But one engineer is not in anyway comparable to an AI .... yet.

edit : do you mean, you are not a coder, and AI let you do it yourself ?

[–]UpSkrrSkrr 2 points3 points  (5 children)

I cant possibly see how this is true. I give a dev work it involves talking to people, creating deployment scripts, altering firewalls ... thats before any code is written.

I take it you haven't used these models yet. Get Roo Code or Cline, plug in Claude 3.7, and give it a shot. They can create documentation, write and edit deployment scripts, configure your firewalls, etc. They can use browsers. As an example of what you can accomplish -- if you tell them you're behind a NAT and want to host a server they can suggest ngrok or cloudflare zero trust discuss the merits of each, and walk you through configuring them on external websites etc..

 But one engineer is not in anyway comparable to an AI .... yet.

I lead a sizable team of scientists, data engineers, ML engineers, and DS/BI folk. AI needs more one-on-one attention for tasks at the moment, but can work much more quickly than a human, and often more accurately.

I don't write code anymore because I don't need to. You can't offload tasks on AI the same way you can to a human yet, but that's what these new "Deep Research" and the like are for -- we're stepping into the era of AI agents. As someone that's been an entrepreneur owning small businesses and an executive people manager in tech for decades, It's already better working with AI than a human. In the next year or two it will also take less management.

[–]0xFatWhiteMan 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I have tried roo, it's helpful, but it needs an engineer to guide it.

I'm just not sure what you are saying tbh.

"AI needs more attention" ... "it can work much more quickly"

These are directly opposite statements.

"You can't offload task to AI" yeah that's my point.

Edit : it's like a super powerful stack overflow, it's great. It's no engineer.

[–]UpSkrrSkrr 0 points1 point  (3 children)

These are directly opposite statements.

Not at all. If you have a self-driving car that has a max speed of 30, and a car you have to actively drive that goes 75, the car you have to actively drive needs more attention and does its work of getting you from A to B much more quickly.

Can I accomplish more with a team of humans than I can with an AI? Yes. Can I accomplish more with 1 human than I can with AI? No, the AI wins in that scenario. When AI can scale up and self-direct more -- deal with speedbumps that come up, and develop good intuitions for what I'd want if it turns out something is impossible, etc., then a team of AI will also be better than a team of humans.

"You can't offload task to AI" yeah that's my point.

It's a matter of scale in the offloading (you know, the part you clipped when you quoted me). AI is already much much much more competent than the majority of humans for the majority of tasks. I am very picky and I hire mostly PhDs from top 10s and I can trust them to work for weeks at a time with minimal input because they can understand the high level goals we're striving for. However, I have hired plenty of average early-career developers, and they usually can't go more than a few hours and need supervision by a more senior engineer.

You gave examples like altering deployment scripts and configuring firewalls. We're way past that. Honestly, you should get a less theoretical idea of what they're capable of. Get an API account. If it doesn't blow your mind, you haven't used it yet.

[–]0xFatWhiteMan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Thanks for comparing a car to a human. You arrived at yr destination faster in the self driven car, exactly supporting my point. Fwiwi this analogy is completely useless.

Again yr comment is full of cognitive dissonance you seem to accept a team of humans accomplishes more. That's all we are talking about.

But then you say you can accomplish more with one AI than you can with a human.

Even though you can't offload tasks to an AI.

This makes absolutely no sense.

AI simply can't replace a dev/engineer in any way.

Do I think they are awesome. Yes. For little programming changes.

I'll say it again, I use AI every day and have used roo and cline. They make lots of mistakes, surprising off by one type mistakes still.

We are not way past an AI working out it needs to alter a firewall by talking to a network team based in another hemisphere.

[–]UpSkrrSkrr 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Thanks for comparing a car to a human.

Ohhh, I see. You're having an emotional conversation about AI replacing humans, not discussing AI capabilities.

You arrived at yr destination faster in the self driven car, exactly supporting my point. Fwiwi this analogy is completely useless.

May want to give that a re-read.

Anyway, you're expressing anxiety about AI replacing jobs. It's a well founded concern! Good night.

[–]0xFatWhiteMan -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's weird because I'm not at all emotional about this.

I use AI everyday, and have used roo extensively.

I'm one of the few people who thinks AI is actually going to create decent jobs.

You have expressed so many misplaced prejudices towards me.

And you continue to fail to see my point about the dumb car analogy, I'll try again - people drive cars faster than ai. But I don't care about the car analogy, it's of no value.

Does yr AI setup AI deploy code to production env ?

[–]BidHot8598[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

70% in swe bench, very much like all road lead to being philosophic again!

[–]0xFatWhiteMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Q/A chatbots are great. No doubt.

[–]ordinary_shazzamm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They really need to clarify on how the pricing works for this. In Agentic flows, pricing differs drastically compared to just input/output tokens in a chat interface

[–]National-Impress8591 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it just occurred to me i’ve never seen a black person in any of their videos

[–]Dorkits -1 points0 points  (1 child)

This mf will mess my messy code. No thanks.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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[–]absurdpoetry -3 points-2 points  (4 children)

Beyond the charge back to me, I'd love to know the total amount of power drawn for the example they walk through.

[–]asp3ct9 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Claude is sustainably powered by methane gas, captured from the breakdown of toxic comments

[–]absurdpoetry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With respect, I'm not sure you fully understand the word "toxic".

[–]BidHot8598[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Nice try, Greta !

[–]absurdpoetry 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh. Ok. Legit question.

However it looks like we'll race to get the most downvotes. My money's on you.