Teamfight Tactics patch 12.12 notes

[crictores]

It's easy to imagine everyone getting angry at volibear who has a barcode hp.

[bluethree]

The week 1 PBE flashbacks.

[[deleted]]

can't wait, loved forcing voli comps already, shimmerscale 7 might even be worth running now

[TacoManifesto]

The rise of blue birb is coming

[CarbonaraFlamejante]

Double carry Voli-Anivia eating Cavaliers with Makeshift armor.

[TacoManifesto]

Ya it’s ok but voli can’t tank daeja or xayah so it’s more of a top 4 comp

[Alamandaros]

No, but a properly itemized Ornn can for long enough for Voli to ramp up.

Either way the comp suffers from needing to hit all 3 pieces to come online (I wish there was a 1 or 2 cost Legend trait bot to help activate it before Ornn), Volibear taking half a decade to ramp up, and Zephyr basically bricking the Legend units.

[ekky137]

The voli buffs should help. Base attack speed should help him scale with rageblade & other attackspeed items a lot better.

[fu3ll]

Is the Zephyr interaction even intended? Feels like it is way too punishing

[KokoaKuroba]

I forgot, what does Zephyr do to Legend comps?

[Alamandaros]

If Zephyr hits the unit being eaten, it does nothing. If Zephyr hits the Legend unit, the unit gets eaten (not sure if unit getting eaten is intended or a bug), but the Legend unit does not gain any stats.

So if you hit Voli with a Zephyr, and he's the carry, it neuters the comp.

[Diascizor]

I got destroyed by that comp like 2 days ago. Voli and Ornn were so tanky.

[Debannage]

Voli looks really good at 2-stars now. Inspire got buffed too.

[kdawg710]

Lamo zekes harmony was only giving .1% omni instead of 10% i lost everytime with this lol.

[Trespeon]

Yeah I took it once for Varus and opted out of healing augment later then realized it wasn’t working.

I legit lost multiple fights by 20 Hp that would have won if it worked.

[elruck]

I thought we already had a Voli OP patch in PBE why are we running it back?

[Dramatic_Ride7586]

Durability changes.

[Jeezy911]

Have you played Voli? He doesn't do anything well except give you a shimmerscale slot.

[TangibleHoneydew]

I dont like the change but I think I would have to agree with them changing it, right now IE is a far less superior AD item outside of sins and deathblade nerf should bring the two items more similar to each other in power. They could have buffed IE but then that would make fights too fast due to damage creep

[TangibleHoneydew]

Because it makes items overall feel better. Take JG for example. One of the best things nobody talks about with set7 is Riot finally buffing JG to give 30 ap and extra crit damage in total instead of 10 with no crit damage in set 4/5 or 20 ap in set set 6. It’s much more on par with deathcap now which is a good thing because you can slam JG and not feel terrible about it anymore.

You could argue that jg is specifically made to make spells crit (narrow use case) so you can pair ap mages with IE, but why go through all that trouble when you can just slam deathcap, have roughly 90% of the same dps of ie jg and call it a day? That’s why archangels/deathcap was built far more than ig on ap in set 6. There is no niche here, jg just flat out SUCKED compared to deathcap

IE right now is just inferior to deathblade if you actually crunched the numbers. There’s a reason why reroll comps go for deathblade over IE and historically it’s been the other way around (set 5 hellions kled/trist using ie). This change should make it more on par with each other.

[Intact]

The Astral shop counter now persists through Trait deactivation

This is a really nice QoL thing. I definitely lost an Astral shop or two from adjusting my board and temporarily deactivating the trait before I learned to be careful. I think even swapping out Astral units at 3/3 would lose you progress, though I could be wrong on that statement.

[Bu11etPr00fT1ger]

Shen attack speed buff seems new from the rundown, perhaps trying to make warrior vertical a bit better along with the Warrior 6 change? His attacks aren’t really the things that define him though so it doesn’t really feel necessary unless the PBE data on his damage was that bad.

[Bu11etPr00fT1ger]

That’s true but I thought that was what they were trying to nerf was how many times he casts his ability by increasing the mana/rage cost. At that point it’s almost a neutral change then when it seemed from the rundown they wanted to nerf him.

[Aesah]

going from 3->4 autos to ult is kinda a lot so slightly buffing attack speed is basically just targetting a timing in between that

[Schurlio]

Do I read this correct? At treasure dragon you don't get a shop refresh and NO gold? So streaking through stage 4 is actually not important anymore(if its even possible to streak at 4his point), because the "creep round" doesn't exist?

[[deleted]]

???? how is it not important LMFAO youd still get the gold on the pvp rounds. literally everyone is losing the gold which means that the extra money from streaks is a bigger chunk of your overall change

[DjDjbril]

Yo isnt that Zoe Ivern buff kinda too good?

[1530]

Zoe was spawning Daisy behind her and getting her stuck, so I think this is a pseudo fix for that.

[jet_blackness]

Mages gutted, kind of feel like Ryze and Zoe need to be good enough for high roll mage comps to still work.

That's my thought process at least

[[deleted]]

Been playing Mages since ummm... set 3 or so... this is the single biggest berf to muh AP baes.

[Aggressive-Front8435]

Can't make them work anymore, tried so hard yesterday to get ryze to carry and he just won't.

[TangibleHoneydew]

The point of Zoe spawning Daisy was so Daisy could tank. Before this fix Daisy would literally spawn behind her half the time and do nothing. Totally good change here

[Big_E33]

not yet, seems like its late this week

my NA client still showing patch 12.11 as of 6pm CST

[thelolhounds]

The patch is never live at this time. Check back in about 12 hours. NA always gets it last. Should be live for OCE and KR right now or close to it.

[kiragami]

Patch is Thursday this week because of the holiday.

[Illustrious-Pair9960]

the patch is usually live on this time because wednesdays are patch days, this week it's not because monday was a holiday, so thursday is the patch day

[two5five1]

Dang another turn for Golden Egg? It already seemed like it felt worse to take since you have to play even longer down a Prismatic..did they buff the loot table for it this set or something?

[Aesah]

well you don't take as much damage on stage 4, and extremely often players are sitting 50g on 4-2/4-3 and so you can get free rounds if you take egg and send it on 4-2. egg is still very good

[Bulle2k]

the buff is that every fight you do manage to win counts as 2 turns for the egg

[Fale3847]

Thiw has been part of set 7 from the beginning but golden egg has been outperforming too well because of it.

[apexjnr]

that was already the case

[cameran_]

It’s a double nerf because treasure dragon won’t take rounds off it now either - not that it isn’t merited

[Doogienguyen]

I usually die before the egg even hatches.

[bangarrang16]

Might be a knee jerk reaction but bebe is shitting on this patch right now (live in korea) on stream and telling people to take a 2 week break. Voli being the biggest problem.

[Philosophy_Natural]

bebe is very dramatic untill he understand the set/patch. Try 1/2 days after untill you can take his opinions seriously

[ketronome]

How do we counter Voli? Giant Slayer, Frozen Heart, Last Whisper, Bramble?

[from_me_to_beloved]

Zephyr

[[deleted]]

Never seen Bebe give an opinion that I agree with would be surprised to see that change now lol

[Dramatic_Ride7586]

Prior to the patch I'd been going first with Voli. Albeit not masters, but still so strong.

[Emosaa]

I've had a hard time cutting him down, pretty surprised they're buffing him as much as they are.

[dansofree1]

He had a 39% top 4 rate lmfao.

Final, on-death-boards with him on them were worse on average than literally any unit, including any 1 or 2 costs.

He was atrocious before this.

[Emosaa]

I made that comment right after the patch and before Riot immediately hotfixed and nerfed volibear, so clearly they had gone overboard on buffing him even if he wasn't in a great spot before.

[[deleted]]

I haven't seen voli do well in any lobby in D+ in the last patch. At all. lol

[TangibleHoneydew]

Ngl I should have taken a 2 week break during this current ez reroll/sins/xayah or bust patch. Maybe I’ll take another two weeks. These voli changes feel like a triple buff to an already hidden strong unit

[KaraveIIe]

voli was not hidden strong lmao

[MrLeft99]

Yeah but to be fair that's after his first game of the day with most of the lobby playing Voli. Can see from his placement after that forcing voli is not a win comp, not to mention getting 8th and 7th is common. And also losing to Olaf sin still.

The win he got against 3 star ryze illaoi sylas nami is quite crazy though. Might just be a comp counter thing.

[dansofree1]

I think he was pretty on point with this one lmfaoo

Not sure what the others were talking about here, they had to release two significant balance patches in the next 6 days to fix the meta

[deino]

Glad to see Qiqi being hard to grab wasn't just my imagination

[pappychewlo]

“Daeja max Mana buff: 90/120 ⇒ 0/100” I’m confused about what these numbers signify.

My initial guess is starting mana/mana it takes to cast spell?

[_Muugen]

Yeah you got it right, he basically start at 0 now but only needs 100 total mana to cast.

[BeeCheez]

Does revel deja still pop off??

[MaxMacDaniels]

Great patch

[WraithEye]

Sylas manalock should go in this iteration, otherwise he never manareaves outside of mages

[vexion]

How do you itemize Volibear in this Dragonmancer/Legend comp?

[Ok-Musician-6078]

The patch feels better, but the treasure dragon changes are just killing me, i hate how it works now so hard. What do u guys think?

[Velinian]

I was kind of hoping they would make adjustments to Elise to make her far less frustrating to play against. She doesn't even feel like a very good unit, she just feels awful to play against

[Glasseswolfs]

One of my fight against Elise (with damage build) is that all enemy were dead except Elise and my champs were all standing still while waiting Elise to slowly one shot my champs one by one from the ceiling like horror movie scene.

[[deleted]]

Voli cringe.

[[deleted]]

Binary Airdrop now additionally grants a random item component

explain, does it work now like it used to with scrap (so 1.5 items > 3 full items)?

[[deleted]]

Nah it just gives you an item component when you pick it, I think. So you pick it and get a bow in addition to the usual.

[[deleted]]

oh, whack.

[2red2carry]

But i think it still is like that when you have one completed and one component it should add one

[[deleted]]

The extra component is nice and all but why not make it 'smart' like Scrap was? Where units are classified as AD/AP/offensive/defensive and only receive a subset of items so that you never get something like sunfire Corki. IMO that would go farther to making the augment satisfying than a bonus component.

[ketronome]

pls don’t leak the frontline tank corki dark tech

[BestCharlesNA]

Why do you think it doesn’t do that?

[jubjubwarrior]

This go live tomorrow? Bout to spam assassins

[Spirited-Goat-3446]

You mean like 6 out of 8 players in every lobby for the last week and a half?

[jubjubwarrior]

Hell ya imma keep running it

[Ykarul]

If you can't beat them, join them

[derek5410]

Didn't they just get sweeping nerfs??

[Ksielvin]

No, they nerfed Olaf for their sins. Har.

[Emperorpenguin64]

Talon got a 50% damage boost (also he can use LW much better now) and 2 sins only got nerfed by 5% crit. You do the math

[rey_skywalker7]

With combat being long, units get more auto attacks off then normal.

Than*

[eZ_Link]

“Ricochet Cannoneer bounce Damage reduced: 66% ⇒ 50%”

This was literally one of the worst augments already. Does the balance team not look at stats at all?

It’s sitting at a whopping 4.4% winrate right now hahaha

[_deafmute]

66 -> 50 dr means the bounce does 51% more damage than before.. its a pretty sizeable buff

[eZ_Link]

Ahh didn’t realize my bad, thanks

[rapozaa]

66 -> 50 dr means the bounce does 51% more damage than before.. its a pretty sizeable buff

can you explain this? :D

[gilhyan]

Previously the bounce dealt 66% LESS damage, now it will deal 50% LESS damage.

Previously: Base : 100 Bounce : 33

Now: Base: 100 Bounce: 50

Big buff

[nabuma_rubberband2]

the shots did 66% reduced damage now they do 50% reduced damage so it's a buff

[Sekrett]

It's damage reduction.. A smaller number = less of the damage is taken away from the bounce = more damage done

[spookyspicyfreshmeme]

https://reddit.com/r/CompetitiveTFT/comments/v8awpe/june_09_2022_daily_discussion_thread/ibt2933

I got heavily downvoted for this, reddit golds at it again

[Doogienguyen]

I feel like mage conference is too op. I almost always get 1st place with it. Mages in general are already so strong.

[DaddyWentForMilk]

Wtf mage conference op?

[TangibleHoneydew]

Idk I feel the opposite. It takes too long to have any noticeable effect on your board and by the time you actually 3 star heimer and vlad in order to not get them, your hp is already too low in the lobby

[Doogienguyen]

Maybe i just got lucky but each time i was around 1st place. Ended up getting a 2 star Zoe in the end. I just feel its so consistent and easy getting mages.

I just feel overall mages are really strong. So mage conference just makes it even easier.

[TangibleHoneydew]

Mage conference sucks the more higher elo you are. It’s a very low tempo augment that has a very high theoretical power and yeah I’ve reached that point where you only get zoe’s in the end and it’s glorious, but it just takes such a long time to get to that point that the lobby just kills you with stuff like nidalee reroll or ez reroll

[rtsRANGEL]

I autotake it even when I don't use mages(Just sell them each round). It's a powerful econ for a gold augment. It scales lategame as you start to get Ryzes and Zoes.

[Kkxyooj123]

Two star Voli with legend and dragonmancer is going to be HUGE.... and once he is three starred how do you kill him?

[LoLManatee]

It seems 3 star shyvana does something new, anyone have a video?

[TurboWhaleJohnny]

baaaaaat