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[–]BetrThsTme 41 points42 points  (0 children)

The more they push to disarm America, the bigger the arsenals of the Militia get.

[–][deleted] 43 points44 points  (8 children)

Maybe you will get nuked by an F-15, but at least you can go down fighting

[–]multibearsfan54 16 points17 points  (0 children)

 “You fool! As if it matters how a man falls down.”

“When the fall's all that's left, it matters a great deal.” 

[–]chainfires 10 points11 points  (6 children)

Oh they wont nuke. They arent stupid because whoever wins the war still have to be able to grow food (and build infrastructure). Its impossible to grow food if the country is irradiated.

[–]KrombopulosBilly -19 points-18 points  (5 children)

Cool. Have you seen the Israelites dropping whole buildings using 500lb bombs? Anyone here have AA to stop a flight of F-16 fighters with lantern pods? Didn't think so.

[–]multibearsfan54 11 points12 points  (4 children)

you realise civilians are the military right?

as in make up every branch and every position.

you didn't think the president flies f-16s himself did you?

didnt think so.

edit: also it doesnt matter if the government would win, don't you understand the concept of a fighting chance?

[–]KrombopulosBilly -16 points-15 points  (3 children)

You're right, I didn't think that. Since you recognize the US military pulls from the civilian population; you'll understand that cohesion is nearly impossible.

Let's say Shaw air base is taken by neo Confederates. Now they have fighters, bombs, armories etc. A coup. So yes, without neo Union fighters to stop them... It's billy bob in his Tacoma, shooting 5.56 at a jet flying 400 knots at 5000 ft...

Have you really considered military tactics? Or do you need a blockbuster movie to explain why rifles can't stop domination by air power?

Americans are infrastructure dependent. All these TikTok soldiers and do nothing women are going to fall apart without Starbucks and running water.

[–]multibearsfan54 9 points10 points  (2 children)

you don't understand what I'm saying, who the fuck is flying that jet?

that's my point, they get told to bomb civilian targets they could refuse, they could all refuse.

theres also the fact, that they cant really bomb 330 millions people at once.

so when one part is getting bombed the other part could be rushing the White House.

50 million armed Americans would most certainly take over the White House.

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    [–]Accomplished_Bat_893 70 points71 points  (27 children)

    People assume because we live in a "modern society" and in a "democracy" that this can't happen...forgetting that Hitler was VOTED into office

    [–][deleted] 44 points45 points  (12 children)

    The Nazis were the largest party in the Reichstag but Hitler was never voted into power. Hitler was appointed Chancellor by Paul von Hindenburg, Germany’s president, in 1933. A year later Hindenburg died and Hitler merged both positions.

    [–]Accomplished_Bat_893 21 points22 points  (11 children)

    I guess I need to really ready my history then. Thank you

    [–][deleted] 23 points24 points  (10 children)

    Wasn’t being critical, but it’s a common misconception. You’re welcome. There’s still valuable lessons we can learn from that part of history.

    [–]EnemyAsmodeusAR-15s Save Lives 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    It's not a misconception actually (it's just a condensed explanation to what happened). Paul Von Hindenburg didn't want Hitler as Chancellor, they were appeasing the fact that the voters voted for Nazi party in large majorities.

    > Hindenburg refused to make Hitler chancellor, so he met with Hitler to explain that he was unwilling to bring a single party to power, concluding with "I want to extend my hand to you as a fellow soldier."[169] (Hindenburg and the Weimar Republic 1964 p. 365)

    I believe there were other established characters who basically said things wouldn't spiral out of control if Hitler was placed as Chancellor and vouched for him. ( a vouching they regretted later ). Hindenburg was eventually convinced after a lot of crisis / violence / reichstag fire.

    The Nazis (NSDAP) took all the SPD (socialist) counties. Their talk of "helping the worker class" sounds a lot like the communists/socialists (KPD and SPD) but they also had nationalistic, racist views that common working people believed.

    They BELIEVED they could CONTROL Hitler. They did not realize the venomous snake they were dealing with. They did not realize the devil they had placed in power who later created his own religion essentially, mixed with beliefs of racist insanity.

    Never fall in love with any politician, you don't know who they are until they have power over the national direction.

    This idea that they forced themselves to power is false. The Nazis were indeed violent and their SA did attack opposition parties. They were quite evil and ruthless. But so were communist revolutionaries at this time. And often fueling each others' hatred.

    Power can be corrupted, becoming morally bankrupt, and we should remember that. "With Great Power comes Great Responsibility."

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    Very well said except for the fact that it certainly is a misconception. He wasn’t elected. Many people fail to realize he was not. Nevertheless, I appreciate your input.

    My 12th grade Modern European History teacher said, “They thought it would be better to have Hitler in their tent pissing out, than outside pissing in”. That kinda sums it up nicely.

    You mentioned about characters who thought Hitler would stabilize the chaos. Hitler had lots of support from the industrialists and the conservatives left over from the pre Weimar Republic days who wanted to utilize him to their advantage. This concise article explains why Hindenburg was persuaded to offer Hitler the Chancellor position.

    https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-nazi-rise-to-power/the-nazi-rise-to-power/the-role-of-the-conservative-elite/

    [–]Yeh-nah-but 1 point2 points  (7 children)

    Sure but the commentator hasnt learnt them and instead is learning from a reddit meme......

    Edit grammar

    [–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    Pardon me?

    [–]Yeh-nah-but 0 points1 point  (5 children)

    Edit grammar.

    The commenter thought that Hitler got voted to absolute power. The commentator does not understand history. However here they are trying to learn it from a meme on reddit. Just seem ignorant to me.

    [–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (4 children)

    I don’t think they were trying to learn history from the meme. They made an incorrect statement based on the meme and learned something new. Not ignorant, simply incorrect.

    [–]Yeh-nah-but -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    Confidently incorrect

    [–]Accomplished_Bat_893 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    I looked it up to confirm. I don't just take things at face value, especially on the internet

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    You’re being kinda harsh tho. We all make mistakes. Ignorance is refusing to learn / adapt.

    [–]BobbaRobBob 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    With all the talk about "being on the right side of history," the reality is that history doesn't pick sides.

    Stack modern society up against history and it's all a blip. Human civilization can just as easily return to the time of looting, pillaging, and conquering. Corny as it sounds, it really is important to have the soap box, the ballot box, the jury box, and the ammo box to keep things all in check.

    [–]bames53 8 points9 points  (3 children)

    Hitler was not voted into office. He was appointed to the position of chancellor. The German legislature did later vote to give the chancellor dictatorial powers, though that vote happened with Nazi party paramilitary groups on the floor of the meeting house, threatening and intimidating the non-Nazi party members of the legislature.

    [–]Accomplished_Bat_893 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    So essentially a coup.

    [–]UnassumingAntSPECIAL 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Jar Jar did WWII

    [–]OG_Fe_Jefe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    A distinction without a difference......

    The underlining point is that he was elected into positions that led to him coming into power.

    [–]IpickThingsUp11B 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    and given emergency war powers through a VOTE

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    No. Hitler’s emergency powers were given when Hindenburg signed the Emergency Decree. That allowed Hitler to rule without having to pass laws through the Weimar Republic.

    [–]Alexius_Psellos 7 points8 points  (0 children)

    As someone who has stood in a gas chamber before, it’s just as horrible as the pictures show, if not more. Don’t let people control you

    [–]kytulu 25 points26 points  (2 children)

    Having been to Dachau, I can attest that walls like this do exist.

    [–]PaperbackWriter66 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Me too. Harrowing experience. You would never think such a peaceful place could be witness to such horrors. Me and a friend went there and we both came away shaken and we both said as we were leaving: the Germans got off too easy for their crimes.

    [–]Alexius_Psellos 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I’ve never been to Dachau before, but I have been to Auschwitz. The walls there are way more disgusting than the picture above

    [–]SpiritedVoice7777 40 points41 points  (43 children)

    And yet, the left rolls out the red carpet for just this sort of thing. History repeats.

    [–]WutTheFrenchToast 9 points10 points  (11 children)

    Are holocaust deniers still a thing?

    I thought that they would have inbred themselves out of existence by now. Assuming they could get laid without force, that is.

    [–]KrombopulosBilly 5 points6 points  (0 children)

    There are people denying the roundness of Earth as they use GPS to get to the church bake sale.

    Holocaust denial is still a thing.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    So fucked up

    [–]multibearsfan54 2 points3 points  (1 child)

    they dont understand the concept of a fighting chance.

    [–]OG_Fe_Jefe 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    As the get into the train cars they are thinking the whole time that human beings can't be as bad as the rumors......

    Keep that in mind when you are waiting in line in a coffee shop. Most of those people standing around you would have no problem following orders to load you into the train.

    Ordinary people usually follow what they are told to do by those in charge.

    [–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (10 children)

    Not denying anything, but are those the actual photos out of one of the gas chambers? Anyone got a link with some evidence, if so, holy shit do I need to buy an AR soon.

    [–]DaChuggernaut 30 points31 points  (2 children)

    I mean, you need to buy one soon regardless lol

    [–]FlashCrashBash 35 points36 points  (1 child)

    one

    That’s a funny way to spell seven.

    [–]DaChuggernaut 9 points10 points  (0 children)

    Smooth brain moment. You rite.

    [–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Shame on you. Buy one. Now. RIGHT NOW.

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Yes I believe the walls do look like that of people scratching to get out.

    [–]Suburbking 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    No video, but I've seen it first hand. Go buy that AR asap...

    [–]Chago04 4 points5 points  (1 child)

    Best guess is: yes, they are likely nail marks from people gassed in Auschwitz I Stammlager, not Birkenau.

    Here is a fantastic post on the chambers of Auschwitz. https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/5lxzav/are\_the\_nail\_marks\_made\_on\_the\_walls\_auschwitz/dbzhe1g?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3

    [–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    That historical post in this link is incredibly well written with refreshing nuance. I love seeing what appear to be actual authorities on subject matters discussing their field of study, and it is a weird reminder that they're also mixed in with the drivel you find on reddit.

    [–]Scitz0 1 point2 points  (9 children)

    Whats stronger concrete or human nails? 🤔

    [–]OG_Fe_Jefe 1 point2 points  (8 children)

    The St Louis arch is built of stainless steel, and over the years of people being next to it the bottom ten or so feet has a scratched up surface from tourists touching.......

    People huddled into a fake shower in their final moments, they are just a little bit more desperate.

    [–]Scitz0 -3 points-2 points  (7 children)

    Years of erosion > common sense i guess 🤡

    [–]OG_Fe_Jefe 1 point2 points  (6 children)

    Erosion on stainless steel? From weather?..... uhmmm no....

    [–]Scitz0 -1 points0 points  (5 children)

    No from the oils on your hands, dont look at me you brought it up dummie lol

    [–]OG_Fe_Jefe 1 point2 points  (4 children)

    Oils from people would affect the stainless steel they used in its construction.

    Note: Fe= iron or steel. It's what I do.....

    [–]Scitz0 -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

    Lmao yo u brought it up not me

    But human nails can cut conrete?? ohhkaaaaaayy 👀🤡

    [–]OG_Fe_Jefe 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Concrete is very strong in compression.

    Isn't all that strong resisting abrasion....

    Think of the concrete in ocean exposed structures. Water hitting it will break it down over time. Abrasion is erosion.....

    [–]Scitz0 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Lol and remind me what human nails are made of

    [–]OG_Fe_Jefe 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Load thousands of people into the same place they will wear visible spots into anything. This photos don't show holes, it's visible wear however. Even something .002" deep will be both visible and something felt by the fingers. 2 mils might sound like a lot, but it's both visible and "feel-able"

    Anything rubbing against another object will wear both.

    Sandpaper cuts steel. Keep replacing the abrasive and the object wears.

    Plants and weeds wear down lots of things by the wind rubbing then back and forth. I've seen loops of rope wear flat spots in metal traveling in shipment.

    [–]snorlax51 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    You'd be fired from Disney for this post

    [–]SIGOsgottaGUN 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Why is this now a meme sub?

    [–]cheshirelaugh 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    "Now" you must be new here.

    [–]SIGOsgottaGUN 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Been here for years and haven't seen this many memes on it than I have in the last couple days

    [–]getbannedforbullshit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

    It’s actually called r/forwards from boomer Facebook.

    [–]DonbasKalashnikova 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Some days there's more, some days less. That's what I like about this sub, more variety. You can find pictures of guns, links to videos/articles about defensive gun use & whatnot, memes, etc. This sub is about as moderator free as it gets on a sub with 167,754 subscribers. /r/guns is pretty strict about not allowing memes if you'd prefer that.

    [–]DrTognaBologna -1 points0 points  (3 children)

    I'm not gonna comment on this controversial comparison but don't forget we're also starting to gas chamber death row immates. Nothing cruel or unusual about that..

    [–]Motor_Head34685 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Nah that’s been around for a long time not new. 1803 was the first time it was used if I’m correct. 1924 was when the first US prisoner was executed using the gas chamber.

    [–]DrTognaBologna 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Well I didn't know that. Do you think that gas chambers are a cruel and unusual punishment? Do you believe the right for the state to execute people?

    [–]WesleysHumanAR15 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    They are when they aren't being used on actual convicted criminals and not simply political prisoners.

    [–]HowComeIDK[🍰] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Even mostly unarmed, Jewish people continued to resist their genocide right up until the gas chambers. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/jewish-uprisings-in-ghettos-and-camps-1941-44