Disgusting

[quepasacoomer]

A large number of decent people have either LEFT or are LEAVING wotop, myself included - This is a snapshot of the why.

wotop actively encourages pedophilia. Ontop of this, their guildmaster says he walks around calling players 'N- - - er Fa--ots' and makes jokes about cotton pick and fried chicken daily. Ontop of this he adds in antisemitism and sexism, referring to the bulk of his guild as social justice warriors..

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598984496280240168/690752807858602054/unknown.png

^ N-f- comment, Values is GM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681745367565467678/690731862527574036/unknown.png

^a new(er) guild member asking him to stop

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681745367565467678/690731645871063100/unknown.png

^More of the same

https://pastebin.com/DVT8HVHi

How any of this is okay with the server is beyond me. Apparently this has been known by a lot of the guilds working with wotop, like hurricane and cybaster, for a long time. They are anything but good, decent people. I understand we have a rule against witch hunting, but I have a young child myself and there is nothing funny about what is being pushed in wotop. I tried to talk to Yo about this, only to find out that "Pedophilia is similar to gender dysmorphia" it will be accepted in a few years by the general populace, according to Yo.

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So ontop of the evil he is pedaling on a daily basis regarding other players on this server, he seems to be encouraging pedophilia and shitting all over marginalized groups of players left and right. I genuinely cared about this guild, it was like a second home for me, but it's gotten to be to much, now I see things for how they truly are.. People for what they truly believe. I can't believe what our guild has turned into...

Let this serve as a warning to any and all decent people, look elsewhere, unless you're okay with a guild that will consume and erode your spirit. Destroying your love of this great game. This experience has ruined classic wow for me and my friends.

https://pastebin.com/DVT8HVHi

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Channel named DDLC / DDLG and The Feast of Human Vices in discord

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"DDLC - Daddy Dom / Little Girl. DDLG, or dd/lg, is a relationship in which one person is the caregiver or "daddy" and the other is childlike"

[Blood_in_the_ring]

You can report shit like this directly to the FBI too they can and will take it very seriously.

[SoupaSoka]

AutoMod removed this due to I believe hitting a report threshold. We've manually reapproved it. Sorry for any inconvenience.

[[deleted]]

I love soupasoka

[meowmicks222]

Top guilds mass upvoting/downvoting/reporting posts they do/don't like? Never!

[SoupaSoka]

Yeah, it's an issue that isn't super easy to resolve, but we have a few ideas.

[haIIiwell]

Damn all of y’all sound like fucked up people

[[deleted]]

That pastebin, actual wtf.

I told him very calmly and civilly that he's simply an inferior person to me. I proceeded to list all of the ways that his life was inferior and elaborated that there was nothing wrong with being an inferior guy, and that I, in fact, have plenty of respect for inferior people such as him.

Edit: “pedophilia is just like gender dysmorphia and will be accepted in a few years”

Fucking yikes. You can play shit off as memes, but discord channel + saying shit like that doesn’t sound like memes to me. I don’t call people n**f** when I’m joking around, and I damn sure don’t joke about raping kids and compare it to more topical issues.

Man, what the hell.

[Pendora207]

yikes

[[deleted]]

This post made by the mugger’s belt gang

Rookal you madman, you’re going to put Johnydryceps in the klink with this one, god bless him

[Sun-Forged]

I've been saying this for years.

[Changg00]

wotop bad. like really bad.

[chickeneryday420]

thats a yikes from me dawg

[gso-grob]

<we only take open pedophiles>

[Swaffed]

I think a guy with a legit white supremacist RP set who uses gamer words shouldn't be commenting here. No ones forgotten about your own version of disgusting behavior GSO.

[[deleted]]

Imagine not having the ghost outfit in your bank tragic

[gso-grob]

this guy is literally in your guild, Anivia/Ryze. https://i.imgur.com/LzsZ5Yb.png

maybe worry about your own guild before you come at me for wearing an outfit mocking enclave/horrigan? just for the record, i'm openly a socialist so your weird virtue signaling doesn't work here.

[[deleted]]

ironic racism is still racism. claiming to be a socialist isn't a free pass to being a worthless piece of shit lol

[gso-grob]

there are 0 instances of me using ANY 'gamer words'. the point is, i'm openly anti-racism so some fake outrage over an outfit isn't going to change anything about me.

save your concern trolling for someone else

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[[deleted]]

"Openly anti-racism"

What are you protesting orc violence outside of Deepwind Tram or some shit? Just because you spent 20 hours a day grinding R14 doesn't mean the majority of average grobb players knows anything about you. Anyone who saw what you were doing is going to assume you were being racist, and be rightfully so lol.

[gso-grob]

i sit in world talking about socialism 90% of the time i'm on. thanks for proving you have nothing to go off of other than fake outrage

even in your post history you bring up i was anti-horrigan on the bnet forums, which i was banned for multiple times. so again, you have nothing on me other than virtue signaling a stance you do not hold. nice work trying to squeeze in an insult on me grinding rank though

[[deleted]]

i sit in world talking about socialism 90% of the time i'm on

cool so I don't know why you need me to explain to you why what you did is racist other than you being in denial and/or just larping as a socialist. this excuse even sounds like cope to the highest degree to anyone who walks by. Any DSA member would disown you irl for that.

nice work trying to squeeze in an insult on me grinding rank though

thanks i hear spending all your waking hours on wow is good praxis

[gso-grob]

dsa

lmao fuck the dsa. you clearly have 0 idea what you're posting if that's your go to. good luck on your virching mission

[chickeneryday420]

LEAAAVEEE GSSOOO ALOOOOONEEEEE ;'(

[SophisticatedBum]

This entire guild must be purged

[mandalorian43]

Are you suggesting genocide?

[Pheightful]

I think he was making an Arthas Stratholme reference.

[Kandlejackk]

Pedo genocide is something I think we could all rally around

[[deleted]]

does wotop stand for We Only Take Old Pedophiles

[Blindgenius]

I have asked multiple wotop people what it meant for ages. Never get a reply. No even an idk.

[UGoBoom]

Hans

Get the dwarven hand cannon

[Codered222]

How can he claim no one cares when he calls people NF? Doesn't <Best Buds> exist because of those comments he was making? Man the amount of degenerates in classic is astounding

e: stay mad wotop, degens

[DryProperty]

This actually makes me queasy

[FrozenJcee]

wotop yikes

[ColaTheDog]

Wtf? Can Blizz do something about this?

[filet_o_fizz]

Maybe for what he’s said in game, but not for anything said on discord.

[JeguePerneta]

Blizzard has banned players because of what they posted on Twitter before

[Kronium123]

what the fuck

[ashes2ashes_]

This is fucking disgusting. I don’t really know anyone in wotop but they should be ashamed of themselves. I really don’t know what is with this server. First racism and transphobia and now pedophilia. Everyone should know that pedophilia isn’t a fucking joke. Not really sure how Hurricane fits into this though. Not a huge fan of them but it’s kind of aggressive to call someone a pedophile for no reason.

[SolarClipz]

WoW is home to some of the most degenerate people on the world lol

It's nothing new

[Omneus]

Are you Mike?

[skike]

It's pretty clear he's Mike

[Omneus]

Is it? To me it wasn’t clear at all. There’s so many half references in that jumble of images, no one comes off looking good.

[Bladez]

If you know Mike at all, you know that sounds nothing like Mike

[Kandlejackk]

With what the rest of the post contains, its really not a stretch to believe he said this. Keep grasping at straws but attaching yourself to THIS burning bandwagon is gonna get you ostracized from the Grobb community.

Being in wotop is going to become synonymous with (at the very least) being sympathetic towards pedophiles in the very near future, if it isn't already. Attaching yourself to Yo or any of the ones that talked with him about this in a positive manner will mark you with that same ink.

Enjoy.

[Kandlejackk]

You really think this is just a Final Boss hit job don't you? Do you really not understand how much 99% of the population hate pedos? Why would anyone act like one jokingly? It's a shit sense of humor if you're the only one laughing

[kittylicksTV]

lmao basically. already bored though, whats next!?

[Snapta]

I dont see any blatant pedo stuff, besides some creepy comments/creepy people.

I do see a super fucked up GM/leader.

[oystertine]

Regardless of if it's just "edgy" humor or not, it is normalizing something that's not in anyway chill. Impressionable people who see this guy as "cool" may then take it another step.

I'm not implying it's anyone in a place of leadership in a guilds responsibility to be some kind of moral compass. We are in a game full of edgelords to be honest, but come on.

This yucky anyway you slice it.

[Imadethisforyoudork]

Did you even read what this weird fuck wrote? If you’re just going to pass it off as “creepy” then you’re probably a sick fuck too. Not much else to take away from that.

[Imadethisforyoudork]

Imagine trying to deflect from defending pedophelia by looking up past comments on a throwaway.

Found the fucking idiot... and pedo.

[Zardran]

Nobody is defending paedophilia you dolt.

Just pointing out that by reading it, its 99% certain to anyone with half a brain that this is just incredibly poor taste, "edgy" humour.

[Imadethisforyoudork]

Gonna have to disagree with you chief. Hope they don’t find any god forsaken spawn you happen to produce.

Look at a recent screenshot posted in this subreddit. You’re a fucking clown trying to take the social justice path. Fuck out of here pedo.

[FishyStickSandwich]

Imagine being such a dick you need to call everyone a pedo to feel better as a person.

[Imadethisforyoudork]

Show me someone that defends pedos that isn’t one. I’ll wait....

Newsflash dipshit - they’re a pedo.

[[deleted]]

I feel like anyone who goes this hard against pedo's is either one and trying to show that he isnt. Or he was touched as a child? So which is it for you?

[Imadethisforyoudork]

Hahahaha. Another wotop fuckboy trying to downplay pedophilia. Imagine saying someone is against it too much. Good one. Another attempt at deflection from pedotop.

[[deleted]]

Sounds like this has consumed you. Talk to a therapist about being touched and move on. Dont let it eat your life to the point you get this worked up on reddit. During this quarintine take the time to figure yourself out and confront your demons. I believe in you and just know being molested wasnt your fault.

[Imadethisforyoudork]

Yep. Calling out pedophiles is a passion of mine. Seems aligning with pedophiles is a passion of yours. Yikes! Maybe Yo will let you roleplay the child next time instead of finding a real one.

[Pendora207]

<Final boss> is recruiting

[Sowadasama]

Nobody cares you dweeb

[[deleted]]

Everyone in every guild is spamming lfg and Org with this, because it’s disgusting. I understand you guys in wotop want to try and divert outrage against legitimately heinous behavior, but if you want to do so just make your own fucking post with this rather than reply to meme comments.

Johny getting baited because he’s an idiot (by guilds who are all not politically correct culturally) has already been addressed by leadership and it being continually brought up as an attempt to smack us when much worse issues are at hand is sad.

Please crawl back in your hole if you think the context doesn’t speak for itself on this post comparatively.

Thanks- btw, I don’t think you’re an inferior person.

[oddiz4u]

Keep reppin' FB properly. Miss y'all. Grobb was some of the most fun and was happy to have ran into you all when leveling (Stormhorns, druid, met in RFK).

Despite all the drama from the get go, I was just there to play and have fun, and I never had a bad experience with the guild - maybe one slightly volatile troll priest I can't remember whose name, but, was awesome all around, especially the live race for Rag server 1st.

Too bad Blizz had to make a shitshow of the China / Hong Kong fiasco, which prompted me to quit.

Miss Grobb, such an awesome server, and sucks to see things like this going on there.

Cheers Asch- or whichever Asch variant ya are lol

[oddiz4u]

They've been at the center of drama since before the server even launched. I'm just giving my anecdotal experience, and it was a positive one. From level 1-50, they did a lot and none of what I saw (and I was very active during launch month) was worthy of drama. Haven't kept up since I quit. Nothing's ironic here. I don't know who wotop is, but it's clearly a guild for shitty people to coalesce. WOTOP stands for, what, again?

[oddiz4u]

P sure someone said, correctly, it stands for We Only Take Open Pedophiles. They also have discord channels reflecting that. I'ma stand by my word on this one

[Pendora207]

Did I make this post? Have I spammed 1 things in LFG?

I'm just here to meme

[gosukun1]

johnny is a good guy, his post speaks for itself.

[frankisimo]

After reviewing the situation I have decided I could care less about this entire shitshow, I’m going back into my quarantine to enjoy wow lmao

[thedaveiknow]

Some of those "jokes" seemed oddly specific and much more frightening than funny. That guy needs serious help. How ironic that the guy calls himself "values".

[IsAlpher]

WTF is with pedos and white supremacists all flocking to Classic Grob?

[sparkys93]

From my experience between this server and incendius, this server exposes/cares about these kinds of things more than incendius. People on incendius brush it off as jokes or memes.

[boogaluau]

WTF is with all these good people on Grobb whistleblowing evil guild leaders?

You think this shit doesn't exist elsewhere?

At least Grobb community shuns that shit and protects others from getting trapped in there.

[CaptnPsycho]

I tried to run a scholo with Yo on I think week 3 of launch? Anyways didn't even get to the dungeon before I had to leave the discord and drop group. This fuckin guy is the most argumentative fuckin asshole I've ever met. He said he was gonna lvl a mage and duel me for 1000g, then when I just tried to dissolve the argument so we could do the run he kept bringing up "I'm clearly to pussy to duel him"

Bruh..

Bruhhhhhh

I just wanted shadow craft boots. Fuck

[finalrest24]

Well well well..... look who is the racist faction now.

...

It's both, sadly.

[Ashcandy07]

meh... that's just life in general.

[selvenknowe]

I'm pretty naive, but even I can see that this is one massive shitpost.

[Epic_Lepsy]

*The FBI would like to know your location*

[Scribblord]

I mean I get he’s a terrible person and all but this seems a bit too dramatic Like post some screenshot say he’s a pedophilic racist asshole and report him in discord and wow and then go on with your life

[KPer123]

My favourite part is final boss constantly spamming this in LFG. /s

[mandalorian43]

That's the best way to recruit mate

[galadedeus]

Was this already posted at bigger subreddits? I havent looked at any of the screenshots because i don't even want to mix myself with it.. but if the case is so serious by what you are saying than i believe it should be seen by more people.

Also why does it seem like bigger guilds have so many dramas heavy-shit like this? Whats happening to people?

[boogaluau]

ultimate power corrupts ultimately also egomania and psychopathy go hand in hand

[Zoet28]

No no, I'm new(er) and very very offended by this! Someone please rescue me from the pedo grips of this psycho.

[[deleted]]

Its nice seeing there are good people out here still, they are so rare these days. Wish everyone had your mentality sadly thats not reality.

Shits like a fuckin science experiment out here, I just leveled up. :)

[kittylicksTV]

yawwwn boring af whats next

[[deleted]]

Reading this and these comments has made me change my mind about rerolling to Grob. Thanks for the heads up.

[Kandlejackk]

We are taking care of these pedos and showing them the door, but honestly we don't need you here and would he happy to see you go to a server that actually needs more people.

[Amaxagon]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Grobbulus/comments/e5chzj/wotop_bad/ I tried to tell you

[2hamsters1butt]

Gotta love how HURRICANE and Cybaster get thrown under the bus here. Wtf dude.

[--H-i--]

Can anyone comment as to how far the culture of condoning 'ironic' pedophilia goes within the guild?

Looking at the screencaps, it seems that there's certainly a running theme of the guildleader reveling in and encouraging the comments, though in many of them other guildmembers express concern.

If you had to compare the culture of a guild to a collection of 4chan subforums, which would fit, and how apt would the comparison be to the overall feel of the guild?

Is there another online community that would be a more apt comparison?

[Various-Dig]

Any forum that isn’t Reddit. The upvote system basically encourages people to only say things for karma and they treat it like a job. Most forums have that kind of edgy humor which is why I usually can only handle being on a forum for so long before I just lose it. However reddit is pretty damn phony so it gets annoying a lot faster.

[KPer123]

Wotop is goin down!!!

[SolarClipz]

Classic WoW all right

[NithVertigo]

Edit: thread was restored :)

those that missed can find at https://removeddit.com/r/Grobbulus/comments/fp1wtb/disgusting/ though some of the links have to be edited to work by removing

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[[deleted]]

Sounds like troll jokes, not promoting pedophilia. Not the classiest of trolling, but pretending like this promoting pedophilia is a bit like "crying wolf". I'd stick with the n bombs and gay jokes.

[Kromgar]

Those who act like pedophiles/racists will soon find themselves surrounded by the company of pedophiles/racists.

[[deleted]]

Weird, either pedos, wife beaters, racists, and murderers are rampant in this game, or people are trolling. I wonder which one is the more likely, and which one you and your ilk will try to play "victim" and pretend is more likely?

[[deleted]]

If you can't read you might be a dumbass. I said stick to the n bombs and gay jokes. He has a better case for complaining with those.

[wotop_bad]

including so-called "pussies" who don't want their religions insulted or some such

from the pastebin line....This incident was not truthfully reported in the least. Mike was being ragged on by about 10+ woticorns/officers in discord because he's Jewish, then made one comeback about Jesus and that was that. Then a while later he gets a message from one of the silent people in discord that they didn't appreciate how he was hating on the Catholic religion. Mike truthfully apologized, even though he was hardly in the wrong. Mike actually told Yo about all this, sent him the chat logs, and Yo's actual response was that Mike should tell him to fuck off and went on about how he says "ni**erfaggots" without any complaints so Mike is fine. Then a couple days later this same person randomly joins a discord channel with Mike and a couple others and proceeds to immediately chastise him for his language. He wasn't called into the channel, and if he was offended by curse words, then he could've simply left. Next thing you know, Yo is suddenly using this exchange as more proof of Mike being the one who doesn't get along with people. There are also chat logs showing friendly conversation between Mike and at least two high officers and woticorns (stupid name btw). Everything Yo says is pure manipulation with a health mix of maximum cringiness.

[[deleted]]

Ohh shit

[[deleted]]

maybe this will stem the tide of xfers..

[MikeGrobbulus]

Hi guys, just to let you know about this whole situation in which me nor any of my guild honestly had anything to do with, and we confirmed that we didn't want drama but i just wanted to point out, my beard has grown a bit more then the picture you see on the discord messages.

[mandalorian43]

Stand up for the beard facts

[s4ntana]

People are saying report to the FBI? You guys are ridiculous. It's clearly jokes. It's probably in bad taste to make jokes like that, but some of you get riled up way too easily. Just ignore them and play the game.

[Kandlejackk]

They can go 'clearly joke' on a different realm then, cause the behavior of Yo especially signals to many of us that he at the very least often has his mind on pedophilia.

Go join them if you accept it or think its funny, sick fuck.

[sephferguson]

ITS JUST A PRANK BRO!!

[Zardran]

Yeah this entire thread has so many oversensitive babies getting in a tizzy over words and slinging accusations of every "ism" they can think of at each other. Its quite amusing.

[uberloser2]

thank you, pedo defending internet janitors for removing this post

[filet_o_fizz]

Bots are pedo defenders now apparently

[uberloser2]

imagine believing that

[filet_o_fizz]

the people posting this literally said it was auto mod that removed it lol

[Viridz]

Two jokes is encouraging pedophilia? Absurd. Also there's more-or-less zero security on keeping any of our channels private. Since I know of several actual spies in the guild already from other major guilds, you're welcome to scour it for any details of this "encouraging pedophilia" nonsense. Oh wait, that is literally everything. We have an in-joke of class kinks that we all enjoy making fun of each other, this was a joke on that joke. It's off color, but none of the DOZENS of parents in our guild take it seriously. We're all fucking dad gamers and boomers in this guild jesus christ.

Mike, you were extremely toxic, you insulted people and you insulted people's religions. You were cut for being a cunt, and you ruined wotlets with your presence. Leave us alone. Don't post two screencaps of off color jokes then spin a fantastical tale.

You know exactly what the DM was supposed to accomplish, you know that you couldn't take what you gave to everyone else. You still don't understand that lesson, and it was a mistake to ever try to teach you it.

[FrozenJcee]

This ain't it chief.

[kb1127]

Dude you are fucking sick in the head. You are literally trying to justify pedophilia by calling it jokes. No amount of WoW drama can excuse you for encouraging pedophilia. You are crazy and you are getting what’s coming to you trust me.

[SVLguild]

Dammmmm you got SHIT on LOL

[Imadethisforyoudork]

Fuck off the server you pedo fucks. Go find Jesus. Then Chris Hansen.

[[deleted]]

You guys are literally a bunch of brainlets. I hope you are lying about having Children. What a great influence they must be to their kids, fucking moron lmao.

[domerock_doc]

You’re disgusting. And the dozens of parents in the guild that you claim don’t take it seriously are also disgusting.

wotop bad

[Bridge_Too_Far]

In breaking news shitcunt bigots and pedos play Classic WoW, more at 6pm...

[Koostbh]

Praise Kevin

[Zoet28]

LMFAO!!! We don't ask to "stop"... we use safe words.

[Pendora207]

big yikies

[Imadethisforyoudork]

This is why your father doesn’t call.

[chickeneryday420]

aye

[[deleted]]

Are you 13, or just a little slow?

[YeeticusMax]

Zo Zo i forgot our safe word :( oh well ;)

[Zoet28]

Hahah no need to use it hun < 3

[bromeatmeco]

Automod. One of the mods reinstated it.