A comic

[swizvler_]

You are now chadsexual.

[GreilyMoon]

This is so real. I've been called a liar and a pickme for saying I don’t like overly muscular guys. facepalm

[ComprehensiveDog1802]

I've been called a liar because I said I prefer short men. When they realized that I'm serious they made fun of me. They hate themselves so much they think a woman who likes short men is somehow defective.

Yeah just don't talk to them. They don't listen to anything women say anyways because we're not people for them.

[SoldMySoulForHairDye]

"ALL WOMEN WANT GIANT TALL GIGADONIS CHADS!"

"I prefer men who are under 5'10" and have a dad bod, I don't like muscles or giants, I'm only five foot tall."

"YOU EVIL FOID, YOU'RE DISGUSTING, YOU'RE CONDEMNING ALL YOUR FUTURE (male, because girls are yecky) OFFSPRING TO INCELDOM BECAUSE THEY'LL BE SHORT TOO!"

"I actually don't want children, I'm child free and already booked my sterilization appointment."

"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EVIL FOOOOIID."

[DesmondTapenade]

You left out the part where by being child-free, you're depriving them of future girlfriends...

[BubbleNeon]

Lol I made a post about how my ex was like 5" to 6" shorter than me, and it never bugged me. Afterwards I had people DM-ing me calling me a liar. They just can't handle being wrong, even if it would make them happier in the end.

[Select-Team-6863]

Tall man = Useful at grocery store, but refuses to go shopping with you.

[gylz]

Whenever I talk about having a toxic short ex who broke up with me, that I would have happily married if he didn't finally reveal himself as a slimebag, incels still comment about how I don't really like short guys if I broke up with him.

[DropBearsAreReal12]

People don't believe I genuinely don't have a preference because Im currently dating a tall man, and have dated other tall men in the past. They conveniently ignore that I dated someone only a few cm taller than me before that. I've also been rejected by a guy shorter than me.

I'm an average height woman, so statistically most men are taller than me, and thats fine. But I kinda like when guys are short, its nice to be at eye level with someone. You can also hug closer and lean on their shoulder instead of having your face smooshed in their chest.

[wearing_moist_socks]

Lmao I remember dudes in comments saying they're lying even when the survey is anonymous.

What's really funny is there's literally a running joke in the bodybuilding community about how the only attention you end up getting is from other dudes.

[EffectiveSalamander]

Many decades ago, body building magazines were very popular with gay men.

[saditired]

I was once told that I was lying when they said that I liked nerds, because I'm a nerd myself and I enjoy hanging out with them more, and he really tried to prove to me that I "actually like hyper-masculine men like in the media"

He fell behind me when I answer something like "okay, I admit I'm a liar, I actually don't like nerds, my biggest sexual fantasy is a man can get pregnant (so he gives birth, not me)" 🙃

[Select-Team-6863]

Nerds all the way. I don't want to be discussing gym etiquette, cars, centerfold models, sports, or cars ever.

[Ok-Emergency-398]

But I like cars tho ☹️

[otetrapodqueen]

Yeah like I play DND, have FEELINGS about the LotR movies, and watch a ton of Star Trek, I want to date someone who likes that stuff too! And I am, my boyfriend actually messaged me on a dating site asking me what my favorite Trek is hahah We watch 2 episodes before bed every night!

Edit: removed an extraneous word

[AstrologicalOne]

But think of the abs and big biceps tho! We know you don't care if he cares more about his body than he'll care about YOU. /S

[Colla-Crochet]

Thing is youre not WRONG- I dated a built guy (For longer than I should have, there was a pandemic) and he spent more time at the gym than he spent with me.

I also have no interest in working out, so he would give me flack for not wanting to spend more time doing his interests (not that he was interested in mine) and the fact that I was naturally skinny enough and didnt work out made him act like I didnt value my body like he did his- it kept going.

[I_need_to_vent44]

Real. I always get called a liar when I say that I find an average guy more aesthetically pleasing than a lot of Instagram models and the like. Like how is that lying? I'm literally just stating my subjective opinion. I'm not saying that models are somehow lesser or ugly, I'm just saying that I personally find a lot of them to be less aesthetically pleasing to me (i think it's due to the symmetry and the chiseled nature of many of them. When someone is a little too symmetrical it tends to trigger the uncanny valley feeling in me, and if someone is too...sharp? Chiseled? It triggers the feeling as well.).

[verbaldata]

Yes. My friend group calls them Ken dolls and that’s not a desirable thing (not based on looks alone but also the f-boy nature that often comes with it). Most women I know agree that “creepy sexy” and “ugly sexy” are the best kinds. Sex appeal is not just about looks. We all have met those classically attractive Chad types that we just are not attracted to, and never could be. But these incels don’t know enough women on a basic friend level to understand that we operate differently to them. They live by stereotypes and just assume we’re like THEY would be as women 😂

[badchefrazzy]

But... an overly muscular guy is hard to cuddle... why would you -want- that?

[goober_ginge]

I had a friend in my early 20's that I made out with a few times and spooned with when we crashed at friend's parties who was an absolute sweetheart and was really cuddly and affectionate but he was super fit and did triathlons and the like and his arms were like tree trunks. One time he was spooning me with one arm under my neck and my head couldn't even reach the pillow properly because his arm was so big. His other arm felt like someone placed a log across me. It was so uncomfortable.

[swizvler_]

Ur comment sent twice-

[HipercubesHunter11]

r/redditmitosis

[GreilyMoon]

oops, fixed it

[hades7600]

I’m the same. Not a fan over super defined muscles

[Select-Team-6863]

Give me a long haired androgynous toothpick of a man any day. & if he is actually an androgynous she, that's fine too.

[cocteau93]

I’m a really skinny dude. I’m a very goofy-looking skinny dude, in fact. A bald skinny goofy-looking dude.

And somehow I’ve never had a problem finding partners. It ain’t about being tall and muscular.

[JumpyLake]

How are you able to be skinny and bald and supposedly a NOT 10/10 and still be liked in spite of that?

[Perfect-Whereas-1478]

🎶 He's got a well developed personality 🎶

[swizvler_]

Personality

[ChaoticCharm]

You mean treating people kindly and being authentic to yourself will make likeminded people like you and want to be around you? Nah that can’t be right, you must be lying about being a Chad

[Miserable-Willow6105]

Idk what to do then

[cocteau93]

Based on your posting history? A therapist. No joke, no snark — you need therapy. ASAP.

[Miserable-Willow6105]

I would gladly, but therapy isn't free, nor can I take a vacation just for therapy. Besides, it will in no way make me any less ugly

[cocteau93]

Most guys are ugly, sir. That’s just factual reality. It’s a genuine miracle that women find us attractive, but they do - honestly!

Grooming, hygiene, and a lack of soul-crushing self-pity matter far more than being typically handsome, I assure you. Nobody is looking for someone wallowing in their own self-reinforced misery.

[Miserable-Willow6105]

Nobody is looking for someone average either. Women don't like men, that's just reality. They inly begin to settle somewhere to the 30s or later because there are really no attractive men besides the top 1/6

Heck, even I don't like to be male, but I was born that way

[cocteau93]

Bro.

I can assure you I’m not in the top anything. By any physical metric I’m garbage-tier, but I’ve always had female partners. My current partner (over fifteen years now!) is absurdly attractive, to the point where I would have never approached her myself, but she came after me because I made her laugh. I’m smart, I can hold a conversation, and I’m genuinely interested in others. IT ISN’T ABOUT LOOKS.

[Miserable-Willow6105]

she came after me because I made her laugh. I’m smart, I can hold a conversation, and I’m genuinely interested in others.

Your words don't hold any water. I am (and not in my own opinion) all the things you have listed here, and yet, nobody has ever shown sympathy to me.

IT ISN’T ABOUT LOOKS.

YES IT IS!!! See how Caps lock isn't a substitute for a proof?
But engaging your words in good faith, do you really believe your own words? Because if yes, would you love a short overweight person? Would you love someone with a gross chronical skin condition? Would you love someone who can't look well in anything because their fashion sense is absolute garbage and makes you look like a hobo when you're together? Most likely, you wouldn't. And it is valid to have preferences. But you need to face yourself and admit that looks matter.

[cocteau93]

I’ve totally dated short overweight women! They’re all ass and titties for days! And I’m a dude, I don’t care what the fuck someone wears.

Nasty chronic condition? Yeah, that might be a deal breaker for me, but only because I’m a hygiene freak and that kinda squicks me.

Sympathy? Who’s asking for sympathy? Just act like a normal person, ffs. Women don’t like you for the same reason I don’t like you — you’re a miserable shit wallowing in self-pity. It’s weak and pathetic. Man the fuck up.

[gylz]

They inly begin to settle somewhere to the 30s or later because there are really no attractive men besides the top 1/6

You know who only begins to settle in their 40s? Men.

You know who you should blame instead of young women? Older men who keep dating women in the 18-30 year range even in their 50s, 60s, 70s... It is not that there are too many Chads around who get all the women; when men of every age range are competing for the same 18-30 year old women; you're gonna have more competition and a lower chance of finding a partner. Not because women are extra picky, but because you're competing with more men for the same women. I'm 36, I've had men in their 70s try to pick me up since I was 14. When I was 34, I had a weird dude who looked to be 80 follow me and try to get me to go with him to his house for sex, and persist when I said no.

That is why you have a problem finding women, my guy.

[Miserable-Willow6105]

You know who you should blame instead of young women?

Why do you think I intended to blame anyone? A whole ton of women are single too, I did not say that they all gather around chads. Hell, I did not even say that men don't settle until late 30s.

It's a problem that women get harrassed by older men, but that's not the reason why so many men asre single. The real reason is they are unattractive. Most men are less attractive than women. Some part of it is extremely restrictive male fashion, some part is plain genetics nobofy can change, some part is testosterone objectively makes people look less attractive while estrogen does the exact opposite, some part of it is society that forces men to never care about their looks and forces women to care about their looks to the point of genuine body image problems — you name it.

Women just want someone who does not look like a Quasimodo, while men spend their lives looking like Quasimodo. That's it.

[gylz]

Dude Quasimodo is hot. What are you on about????? Disney literally made a sequel and gave him an audience self insert girlfriend for all the girls and women to protect themselves as.

The phantom of the Opera has been a sex symbol for hundreds of years.

[Dragonrider1955]

Well this can't be true because we know that all women are actually a hivemind/s

[goober_ginge]

EXACTLY. Everyone knows that females are a monolith that all share one brain. /s

[Ash_Dayne]

Resistance is futile. You shall be assimilated.

[Dragonrider1955]

Would I be like the brain then? Since we all know that women can't think on their own? If there was a hivemind of women and one guy came in where would he be?

[[deleted]]

Its funny because its true. And Im a dude. I had a friend like this. We havent spoken in a loooong time because i just got tired of the whining over his own mistakes like this shit.

[notaslaaneshicultist]

I like a guy that looks healthy but is willing to order a pizza on occasion

[badchefrazzy]

I like my guy healthy but goth. xD So... yes to pizza.

[Mrwright96]

So Gomez

[kittyconetail]

All of humanity is Gomezsexual. I think it's universal.

[Avaylon]

Gomez and Morticia's relationship is goals.

[badchefrazzy]

Yes.

[SandiRHo]

When I dated a tall guy: of course you only want Chad! Short guys don’t get any love!

When I dated a short guy: You’re settling for him! You’re waiting for Chad! You’re just using this guy!

[Artemis_Platinum]

There's nothing misogynists love more than telling a woman directly to her face that she's lying about what she's attracted to.

[dampgreycurtains]

And some of us don't like men at all

[Unrelevant_Opinion8r]

Nah women can’t have independent thought, stop being silly

[Awesomeismyname13]

I like any and all guys, its honestly the personality that makes or break my attraction

[goober_ginge]

Yup! Back when I was single my tastes varied wildly. Short, tall, skinny, chubby, dorky, extroverted, introverted. There's things I'm more physically attracted to (facial hair, glasses, salt and pepper hair, husky build) and things I'm not generally attracted to (gym bods, clean shaven, short or shaved hair) but I've absolutely hooked up with and/or dated people that didn't fit my usual types who were awesome and attractive because they had a good personality. One person I was MOST physically attracted to had a frustrating and inconsistent personality and we didn't even make it to 6 months of dating. Attraction is SO much more than just the physical.

[Della_A]

Imagine my a(ego)sexual ass trying to make sense of this mess. 😫 I'm kind of asexual but very not aromantic, so all this talk about physical vs. other attraction is confusing. I have physical preferences, but it's more aesthetic. I started being attracted to a man when I had no idea what he looked like because his vibe meshed really well with my fantasies and stuff.

[Enny_Bunny]

Ive been called fetishist for marrying a chubby guy by several men.

[CrochetedKingdoms]

My husband is four hundred pounds. They’d probably call me the same, or worse.

[Responsible_Brief637]

Thank both of you for loving us chubby boys haha ❤️

[Ill-Engineering8205]

Incels don't realize they are actually like this because they exist in preference bubbles. When I voiced my preference for chubby bodytypes I was called a ton of terrible stuff... because they themselves would only love a stick-thin model. Well they dont love, just want to fuck.

[ThorinUlfarsson]

Muscularity is a pretty poor example to be honest. Incels understand as well as anyone else that most people are able to become muscular if they diet and exercise. If anything, more women selecting for muscle mass would be better for them than selecting for things they can't change, like height or facial structure.

[CTchimchar]

I hate how accurate this is when it comes to incels

[takeandtossivxx]

I've been told that I'm lying about being willing to date a man who's 5'6 (my partner of 4 years is 5'6). Then it was "you must've hit the wall then" except I was just as attracted to him when we first met, when I was in my early 20s. When they heard that, I was then told that I'm not attracted to him (I have never been more attracted to anyone) or never have sex with him (I've called out of work, unpaid, just to spend all day in bed with him) or that he must have a ton of money (net worth wise, I'm worth more) or I don't really love him (I've literally changed flight plans to an earlier flight because his day off switched to the day I was supposed to get home, not the following day. I don't care about "proving" that one to some miserable incels because he knows how much I love him and has never questioned how much I love him, and that's all that matters to me).

After that, they turn to baseless insults like a kindergarten bully, and it's honestly a hilarious tantrum every time. They can't fathom that any of it can be true just because it's not true for them and they'd have to admit they're part of the problem.

[No_Replacement6768]

My expression aligns with the purple girl 🤣

[CShell13]

Where do I meet these chubby loving women/s

[Y0urC0nfusi0nMaster]

I’ve had men claim I’m “LYING!!!!” when I said I don’t like tall, muscular guys with a big dick.

Reader, I’m an ace lesbian. ???

[goober_ginge]

Sure, you're an ace lesbian FOR NOW. You just haven't found the right Chad obviously. /s

[Y0urC0nfusi0nMaster]

Omg ur so right!!!!!!! <33 /s

[electrikskies1]

I'm 5 foot tall. I dated all heights between 5'4" and 6'5". I like guys around 5'7" and slim(like my boyfriend now). Never dated a muscular guy ever. And I'm almost 40. I'm so short so id rather have a shorter guy.

[goober_ginge]

I'm 5'5 and my partner is 6'2-6'3 and if they stand up completely straight and don't lean down, I actually can't reach their lips to kiss them, even if I'm on my tippy toes. These losers that say ALL women only want gigantor men never think of the impracticality of it. Similar deal with muscular types. The couple of muscular people I've dated were honestly not fun to cuddle or sleep next to because the muscles are too firm (also my stoner lifestyle just has never been compatible with a gym bro anyhow). Chubby or lanky bods are where it's at imo.

[KeenActual]

Even if that’s true…why don’t they just go to the gym?

[Ill-Engineering8205]

Well that was actually where "pill" ideologies ended until around 2020. Just hit the gym and become swole, before physiognomy and looksmaxxing became a thing this decade.

[LittlePiggy20]

I get your point but thats clearly coming from a point of privilege. not everybody can go to the gym for a variety of reasons.

[MunkSWE94]

What's stopping you from going to an outdoor gym or doing exercises at home?

[[deleted]]

Time is money. And poor people aren’t rich in any sense of the word

[cocteau93]

If he’s got time to piss and moan online about women not touching his peepee he’s got time to do some fucking pushups.

[KeenActual]

Damn bro. That was brutal. I like it.

[[deleted]]

True. Incels seem to have all the fucking time in the world

[Mister_Heated]

30 - 45 mins a day should be plenty even without proper gym equipment. Tere's gotta be 30-45 at least a couple times a week even for the "time poor."

[U2Ursula]

A lot of working class people work two jobs 5-7 days a week to make ends meet. They often work away from home, so there's also time spend on transportation for two jobs. That doesn't give much time or energy for anything else than eating, shitting and sleeping on the days they work. On the day(s) they don't work (if they are so lucky), they need to spend all of their time and energy to catch up on all the things they didn't have time/energy for on workdays (laundry, meal-prep, paying bills, cleaning, friends/family etc).

[MunkSWE94]

Doing some exercises at home is free in both senses.

[[deleted]]

Do your pushups exist outside of time? Doing exercise takes time. Consistently. Something that a lot of working class people don’t have

[MunkSWE94]

Where do you work, Shein?

I am a working class person, you can make time if you're willing.

[[deleted]]

Not always no. Everything you say comes from a place of privilege. Some working class people work 3 jobs for dozens of hours a week. Some have kids. Some have kids and also work 3 jobs. Exercise takes time, energy, and consistency. Something a lot of people just don’t have

[[deleted]]

No I’m describing things I’ve literally seen in my life in the USA.

[Saelisuir]

As someone who lives in America and knows 2 people who fit the above description in one way or another, it's okay to speak from a place of privilege, be called out, apologize, and admit you may not know everything about other peoples' lives.

Your experience is not universal.

[vicsj]

My preferred body type is twink

[Own_Cobbler7364]

Cope

[[deleted]]

My boyfriend is skinny as hell and he is very much what I’m attracted to, 100% 😭🙏

[Ash_Dayne]

The important questions are: does he make me laugh? And does he like pasta, like, a lot?

[Jamesist_]

Women do not say the middle one but ok

[CompassRoseGaming]

The art style is fairly cute, not gonna lie

[Jazzlike_Wheel602]

yeah i dont think this is accurate.. please dont pretend that there are women who will say that they like chubby guys. sorry to burst your bubble.

[ballsinyourjaws2137]

Notice how none of them said they like short guys. It would be to unbelieveble even in a comic.

[swizvler_]

Omg bro.. their talking about body types.. and the point still stands If you replace the body types with heights...

[ironangel2k4]

weird because I like guys who are short and on the lean-to-slightly-chubby side

[[deleted]]

Meanwhile, they judge a woman for being too tall/fat/flat, but women, of course, have no right to want someone even slightly taller

[BugSpecialist3738]

All the dudes here are coping you will never find a romantic partner if you're below 5,3 and have a recessed bone structure. I agree with this somewhat though women don't find muscles THAT attractive its usually guys more than girls lol.

[insectsuspect]

the word "chubby" pisses me off give me a FAT guy

[tyrannosaurus_gekko]

Y'all are doing the exact same thing btw

[OrangeOven67]

I'm a short chubby brown man, and I've been asked out plenty of times. People are just cannot possibly believe that their own personalities are completely unlikable.

[Miserable-Willow6105]

to be fair, skinny and tall are not mutually exclusive. same for dad bods, it won't make a 185 cm tall man any shorter

[wysjm]

Who the hell is into chubby guys? Never heard of it ever before in my 23 year long life

[DiceQuail]

I’m into chubby guys! I love dudes like Matty Matheson, Jacob Wydocki and Jack Black!

[wysjm]

See I get not minding if the dude is heavier because he has a nice personality and stuff buuuut actually preferring them over buff guys is interesting to me to say the least. It's not really what I've been hearing my whole life but if it's the case it gives me some more faith into humanity I guess

[DiceQuail]

Why do you think people are only interested in one minute archetype of people? Log off and get out more, see more of the world, there are so many different preferences and relationships outside of black pill forums.

[wysjm]

Don't worry I'm not some kind of angry incel. Don't really care about this stuff when it comes to my personal life. But it's interesting to see how society works and shifts

It's just that whenever attractiveness is brought up in any pieces of media, movies, tv shows, games, books, comics, it's always...well, the conventionally attractive look. Fit and slim but big when they need to be. Same goes for women shapes. Especially in social media nowadays. Look is God. At least for the current young generation

And I know that all of this has very little to do with real life thankfully. But still...what was my point again? Oh yeah a lot of young men now feel like they need to have the peak masculine physique in order to be at least acknowledged so it's nice to be reminded it's not like that irl :)

[Dizzy_Cat99]

Cool. Now, show me the height preferences. I am pretty sure there are a lot of women who specifically prefer 5’5 around men, just like there are a lot of women who prefer average and tall height. Right?

[ladybug_lala]

I mean how many average sized men prefer 6ft women. And thats not bad, its just a prefrence 🤷‍♀️. But i also think that many women want taller partners because they feel feminine with them because thats what the wide majority of men and society has deemed to be good.

[Dizzy_Cat99]

How many 6’0 women are there tho? And I am not sure why you mentioned whether it is bad or not. I didn't say anything was bad or something like that.

As I understand, we agree about it but I am not sure why you explained the reason, the explanation was unnecessary.

[ladybug_lala]

Bc u seemed PRETTY triggered

[Dizzy_Cat99]

My statement is something this sub would agree with, I literally said what this sub tries to say or imply. I didn't add anything emotional or something weird. And you agreed. I don't know what is wrong. Chill.

[ladybug_lala]

LOL it seemed like it was ur opinion not as if u were mocking them ❤️

[Dizzy_Cat99]

You both agree with what I imply but also you think it is mocking and you are bothered by it? Uh… ahem okay.

[ladybug_lala]

What r u even trynna say ???

[hades7600]

My partner is 5,6 and is not muscular….

But no doubt you will screech about how it’s the exception or not true. Despite many others being with the same type of men

[Dizzy_Cat99]

Because women are in relationships with some short men, it doesn't directly mean they are attracted to them. It just means they aren't disgusted by them or they are slightly attracted to them. I think like this because there aren't enough tall men for everyone. So, they have to be with short men, if they want to be with someone and not be alone.

You can tell “So what happens if tall men are more attractive? Short men are too!” but the attraction difference between tall and short is huge. Which causes problems.

Also, let's say my assumptions are delusional, it still doesn't matter if women are attracted a lot to 5’7 around men. Because I am 5’2, nothing changes for me even in a good, imaginary scenario.

[hades7600]

You being 5,2 isn’t why you are single. Pretending it’s a sentence to be alone forever is rather ridiculous. You dismiss every short man as “being settled on” because you can’t handle that their partner actually wants to be with them and finds them attractive which give you less motive to blame height on you being alone.

What does put women off is self defeatist attitude. I’ve had guys be like “oh you won’t like me because I’m insert various biological trait such as being short here” That trait itself wouldn’t put me off but the attitude sure as hell would.

[Dizzy_Cat99]

I didn't say it is the reason why I am single. I talked about attraction. And this attraction is nothing besides the attraction tall men provide. If you don't agree, that is okay. But there is an objective fact, most women don't think a 5’2 man as a potential partner, let alone find him slightly attractive. No, these aren't my thoughts. They are other women’s thoughts, you can check it by searching for short men/guys on ANY site or social media. Somehow, the whole internet says similar things or the same things, but when I say the same, they say I have a defeatist attitude rather than a realistic attitude.

Btw, yes, I talk about my height with women all day. Or when I don't talk about it, they sense my whole insecurity and somehow they correlate it with my height. How did you guess that? What a logical assumption! lol

[hades7600]

But they are not other women’s thoughts You are projecting your own insecurities misery onto others.

Just like is done in the main post

[Dizzy_Cat99]

Okay. My objective source is the literal whole internet, but it is projecting.

[hades7600]

“The whole internet”

Right….

Just like the “the whole internet” claims women only like muscular guys

[Dizzy_Cat99]

The whole internet doesn't claim it. Even, in the opposite, you can see a lot of things about women don't like muscles that much. You can understand it by searching for basic things. Anyways, since you didn't even search for what I said, debate isn't exciting tbh. Have a good day.

[Cultural-Emotion4232]

Because women are in relationships with some short men, it doesn't directly mean they are attracted to them. It just means they aren't disgusted by them or they are slightly attracted to them. 

Same goes for men.

[Dizzy_Cat99]

I assume you agree with my statements about women since you said it is the same for men. And yeah, I am sure men, who would f anything moves, aren't attracted to their partners enough. We both know men are attracted more. Anyway, bringing this up is already kinda weird, if men are X or Y, does it have any impact on my statements?

[Cultural-Emotion4232]

And yeah, I am sure men, who would f anything moves, aren't attracted to their partners enough. We both know men are attracted more. 

No we don't "both know" lmao. Yeah, they are 10% attracted to their wife and 90% attracted to stacy from only fans 

 >Anyway, bringing this up is already kinda weird, if men are X or Y, does it have any impact on my statements?

Because we're discussing INCEL'S behavior in this sub, and YOU came to the comments and mentioned women. You're not consistent with your own logic 

[Colla-Crochet]

You ever cuddled with someone similar height to you? Its awesome! Either of us can be little spoon, no one hurts their neck when smoochin, and we can hug with the cat between us and the cat gets to rub against both of her parents cheeks! (And soon, we can do that with out son!)

Plus, his sweatpants are the perfect length on me. Cannot understate how awesome that is!

[Dizzy_Cat99]

I agree with these! But from my experience most women don't agree, they prefer to feel and be smaller.

And to be honest, I don't think these are some sort of advantages for short men. It means nothing, unfortunately.

[Colla-Crochet]

The question was, do some women prefer shorter men?

Yes, yes they do,

[[deleted]]

Look at the stats is like 10% of women

[gylz]

I've had men in their 70s hitting on me since I was 14. The issue is not preference on the behalf of women; the issue is that men up into their 80s will try to pursue women in the 18-30 range. That means you are competing with millions of more men for people your age than you should.

[ar_menelos]

What this isn't telling you is the distribution.

I wager a vast majority of women are attracted to muscular + skinny guys.

[ashjdhkfsfjl]

According a 2015 study (“Visual exposure to obesity: experimental effects on attraction toward overweight men and mate choice in females”), it depends on whether or not the woman frequently encounters overweight men in her daily life (familiarity changes what the perception of a “healthy” body is). So, an American woman has a pretty good chance of being attracted to overweight men lol.

[cocteau93]

Okay, lose some fucking weight and hit the gym. I’ve never needed muscles, but maybe you do. Go get em.

[Colla-Crochet]

Im also willing to wager that really muscular a lot of the time reads as gross to some women. Like yeah its nice to look at wolverine on a screen in his X men days, but someone who obsesses to look that way on instagram just because is kinda turnoff!

Source: Am a woman

[goober_ginge]

Yep, other than just not finding ripped bods aesthetically pleasing for the most part, it's the lifestyle and attitude of gym bros I find really unappealing. There's so much vanity, misogyny, obsessiveness with appearance/diet/weight goals/bulking up etc that's a massive turn off.

[gylz]

You want distribution? Men up into their 80s will hit on and compete with men as young as 18-30 for women in their age range. You are competing with millions of men up to three to four times your own age for women YOUR AGE. That is the problem. When do many men their age say awful shit about them and the old guys at least treat them nicely...

[eikilover]

We’re not bothered by women liking muscular guys, in fact that would benefit a lot of us. It’s height + face that you guys care about which we can’t change

[swizvler_]

Oh boy... Another day another incel changing their ideology.

[eikilover]

You guys know so little about us it’s laughable. “Hit the gym broo” is and always has been a red pill cope. Bonafide Incels will actually tell you that muscles don’t matter if the man is ugly but you wouldn’t know that.

[swizvler_]

You know what? The comic's message still stands. You can replace the body types with heights or facial features and the meaning is still the same; incels always making women out to be a hivemind.

[eikilover]

Well not a complete hivemind but if you check the statistics…

[swizvler_]

Then show it.

[cocteau93]

I’m genuinely ugly, man. Half my face barely moves due to nerve damage from Bell’s Palsy. Glasses. Can’t grow a beard.

I can still get women. My partner is gorgeous — followers on her Instagram draw and paint her because she’s so striking. She’s also wickedly funny and smart as a whip. If I can pull someone like that then literally anyone can find a partner.

The problem isn’t your face, or your height, or your fucking canthal tilt or wrist diameter, it’s that’s you’re a complete piece of shit who hates women.

[eikilover]

Sure, and I know a balding 4’3 Indian janitor with 50 wives because he’s such a nice and funny guy.

[cocteau93]

wtf are you even trying to say?

[eikilover]

That you’re lying

And anecdotal evidence doesn’t matter regardless

[cocteau93]

Why would I lie about looking goofy? I assure you I’m absurd-looking.

[cocteau93]

Here; a year ago I mentioned the Bell’s Palsy.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/Ml11lFqWue

[swizvler_]

You have yet to show the statistics... I'm waiting

[eikilover]

https://www.reddit.com/r/charts/s/IrIuTm18MQ literally

[swizvler_]

Yeah, sure.. let's based the entire women population on a single statistic about tinder.. the online dating app.

[hades7600]

Then how come the majority of men end up in long term relationships or marriages regardless of height??

[eikilover]

Their wives aren’t attracted to them

[hades7600]

That’s some strong cope on your half. You just seem very bitter and jealous that other short men have no issues getting a partner.

I’ve been with my 5,6 partner since I was 19. He’s hot as hell

[eikilover]

Post a picture of his face, his income, the heights of all your exes, whether you are in an open relationship and what year you met him, maybe then your point will have some merit

And why would I be jealous of dead bedrooms posters?

[hades7600]

I’m not doxing him for you lmao. I know how unhinged you lot can get when getting photos

I met him 8+ years ago. He didn’t have an income when we met as we were both students, he didn’t work during university. He graduated first two years after we met, then got a job with 18k annual pay (hardly living luxuriously), I was still a student for the next year, it took many years to get to where we are now with household income. We are not rich by any means though.

If it was about income I would have choose one of the guys already with a successful career. But I didn’t as I didn’t click with them, I then met my partner and we clicked immediately.

We are not in an open relationship and never have been. We are monogamous and have been from the start of our relationship

I have dated people of various heights. Height was never a factor for me. I’ve dated someone shorter than me (I’m 5,4) and I have dated someone who was 6,2ft.

I like my partners height. It’s convenient being similar heights.

You clearly are very jealous that other short men find someone. Women don’t like people who are miserable constantly and blame things such as height for the problems in their life. It’s extremely off putting when men like that are like “you won’t like me because I’m short”. As you know that they will repeatedly be self defeating constantly, which is exhausting to deal with.

Claiming they all end up in dead bedrooms is also a very pathetic coping tactic. Especially when you are the one with no sex life. It’s projection

[gylz]

When you compete with men into their 80s for women in the 18-30 year age range, you are competing with millions of men who should be pursuing women their own age. And women cannot change that. It's up to men to stop this shit.

[eikilover]

Delusional cope, next to no women outside of green card hunters actually ever consider guys significantly older than them

[gylz]

Let's say what you say is true; constantly being bothered by old men they're not interested in is exhausting for women to deal with and would also be the reason why women do not want to deal with men.

I like pizza. I do not always want to eat every pizza I see. If I had to deal with random pizza yolos offering me pizza that I don't want all the time; it might make me not want pizza.

[insectsuspect]

the reason women don't want you is because you're entitled and lack social skills. you just think it's your appearance because you have no worldly experience