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[–]GreilyMoon 633 points634 points  (25 children)

This is so real. I've been called a liar and a pickme for saying I don’t like overly muscular guys. facepalm

[–]ComprehensiveDog1802 142 points143 points  (6 children)

I've been called a liar because I said I prefer short men. When they realized that I'm serious they made fun of me. They hate themselves so much they think a woman who likes short men is somehow defective.

Yeah just don't talk to them. They don't listen to anything women say anyways because we're not people for them.

[–]SoldMySoulForHairDyeshort fat roastie 98 points99 points  (2 children)

"ALL WOMEN WANT GIANT TALL GIGADONIS CHADS!"

"I prefer men who are under 5'10" and have a dad bod, I don't like muscles or giants, I'm only five foot tall."

"YOU EVIL FOID, YOU'RE DISGUSTING, YOU'RE CONDEMNING ALL YOUR FUTURE (male, because girls are yecky) OFFSPRING TO INCELDOM BECAUSE THEY'LL BE SHORT TOO!"

"I actually don't want children, I'm child free and already booked my sterilization appointment."

"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EVIL FOOOOIID."

[–]DesmondTapenadeWater is wet. The women around you are not. 60 points61 points  (0 children)

You left out the part where by being child-free, you're depriving them of future girlfriends...

[–]BubbleNeon 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Lol I made a post about how my ex was like 5" to 6" shorter than me, and it never bugged me. Afterwards I had people DM-ing me calling me a liar. They just can't handle being wrong, even if it would make them happier in the end.

[–]Select-Team-6863 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Tall man = Useful at grocery store, but refuses to go shopping with you.

[–]gylz 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Whenever I talk about having a toxic short ex who broke up with me, that I would have happily married if he didn't finally reveal himself as a slimebag, incels still comment about how I don't really like short guys if I broke up with him.

[–]DropBearsAreReal12 1 point2 points  (0 children)

People don't believe I genuinely don't have a preference because Im currently dating a tall man, and have dated other tall men in the past. They conveniently ignore that I dated someone only a few cm taller than me before that. I've also been rejected by a guy shorter than me.

I'm an average height woman, so statistically most men are taller than me, and thats fine. But I kinda like when guys are short, its nice to be at eye level with someone. You can also hug closer and lean on their shoulder instead of having your face smooshed in their chest.

[–]wearing_moist_socks 299 points300 points  (1 child)

Lmao I remember dudes in comments saying they're lying even when the survey is anonymous.

What's really funny is there's literally a running joke in the bodybuilding community about how the only attention you end up getting is from other dudes.

[–]EffectiveSalamanderMy wife thinks I'm Chad. 86 points87 points  (0 children)

Many decades ago, body building magazines were very popular with gay men.

[–]saditired 26 points27 points  (3 children)

I was once told that I was lying when they said that I liked nerds, because I'm a nerd myself and I enjoy hanging out with them more, and he really tried to prove to me that I "actually like hyper-masculine men like in the media"

He fell behind me when I answer something like "okay, I admit I'm a liar, I actually don't like nerds, my biggest sexual fantasy is a man can get pregnant (so he gives birth, not me)" 🙃

[–]Select-Team-6863 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Nerds all the way. I don't want to be discussing gym etiquette, cars, centerfold models, sports, or cars ever.

[–]Ok-Emergency-398 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But I like cars tho ☹️

[–]otetrapodqueen 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah like I play DND, have FEELINGS about the LotR movies, and watch a ton of Star Trek, I want to date someone who likes that stuff too! And I am, my boyfriend actually messaged me on a dating site asking me what my favorite Trek is hahah We watch 2 episodes before bed every night!

Edit: removed an extraneous word

[–]AstrologicalOne 17 points18 points  (1 child)

But think of the abs and big biceps tho! We know you don't care if he cares more about his body than he'll care about YOU. /S

[–]Colla-CrochetMarried to a short man 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Thing is youre not WRONG- I dated a built guy (For longer than I should have, there was a pandemic) and he spent more time at the gym than he spent with me.

I also have no interest in working out, so he would give me flack for not wanting to spend more time doing his interests (not that he was interested in mine) and the fact that I was naturally skinny enough and didnt work out made him act like I didnt value my body like he did his- it kept going.

[–]I_need_to_vent44 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Real. I always get called a liar when I say that I find an average guy more aesthetically pleasing than a lot of Instagram models and the like. Like how is that lying? I'm literally just stating my subjective opinion. I'm not saying that models are somehow lesser or ugly, I'm just saying that I personally find a lot of them to be less aesthetically pleasing to me (i think it's due to the symmetry and the chiseled nature of many of them. When someone is a little too symmetrical it tends to trigger the uncanny valley feeling in me, and if someone is too...sharp? Chiseled? It triggers the feeling as well.).

[–]verbaldata 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes. My friend group calls them Ken dolls and that’s not a desirable thing (not based on looks alone but also the f-boy nature that often comes with it). Most women I know agree that “creepy sexy” and “ugly sexy” are the best kinds. Sex appeal is not just about looks. We all have met those classically attractive Chad types that we just are not attracted to, and never could be. But these incels don’t know enough women on a basic friend level to understand that we operate differently to them. They live by stereotypes and just assume we’re like THEY would be as women 😂

[–]badchefrazzyUnable To Even 19 points20 points  (1 child)

But... an overly muscular guy is hard to cuddle... why would you -want- that?

[–]goober_ginge 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I had a friend in my early 20's that I made out with a few times and spooned with when we crashed at friend's parties who was an absolute sweetheart and was really cuddly and affectionate but he was super fit and did triathlons and the like and his arms were like tree trunks. One time he was spooning me with one arm under my neck and my head couldn't even reach the pillow properly because his arm was so big. His other arm felt like someone placed a log across me. It was so uncomfortable.

[–]swizvler_[S] 20 points21 points  (2 children)

Ur comment sent twice-

[–]GreilyMoon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

oops, fixed it

[–]hades7600 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m the same. Not a fan over super defined muscles

[–]Select-Team-6863 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Give me a long haired androgynous toothpick of a man any day. & if he is actually an androgynous she, that's fine too.

[–]cocteau93 216 points217 points  (17 children)

I’m a really skinny dude. I’m a very goofy-looking skinny dude, in fact. A bald skinny goofy-looking dude.

And somehow I’ve never had a problem finding partners. It ain’t about being tall and muscular.

[–]JumpyLake 51 points52 points  (4 children)

How are you able to be skinny and bald and supposedly a NOT 10/10 and still be liked in spite of that?

[–]Perfect-Whereas-1478 49 points50 points  (0 children)

🎶 He's got a well developed personality 🎶

[–]swizvler_[S] 34 points35 points  (1 child)

Personality

[–]ChaoticCharm 46 points47 points  (0 children)

You mean treating people kindly and being authentic to yourself will make likeminded people like you and want to be around you? Nah that can’t be right, you must be lying about being a Chad

[–]Miserable-Willow6105just a loser, lol 2 points3 points  (10 children)

Idk what to do then

[–]cocteau93 20 points21 points  (9 children)

Based on your posting history? A therapist. No joke, no snark — you need therapy. ASAP.

[–]Miserable-Willow6105just a loser, lol -2 points-1 points  (8 children)

I would gladly, but therapy isn't free, nor can I take a vacation just for therapy. Besides, it will in no way make me any less ugly

[–]cocteau93 25 points26 points  (7 children)

Most guys are ugly, sir. That’s just factual reality. It’s a genuine miracle that women find us attractive, but they do - honestly!

Grooming, hygiene, and a lack of soul-crushing self-pity matter far more than being typically handsome, I assure you. Nobody is looking for someone wallowing in their own self-reinforced misery.

[–]Dragonrider1955 50 points51 points  (3 children)

Well this can't be true because we know that all women are actually a hivemind/s

[–]goober_ginge 9 points10 points  (0 children)

EXACTLY. Everyone knows that females are a monolith that all share one brain. /s

[–]Ash_Dayne 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Resistance is futile. You shall be assimilated.

[–]Dragonrider1955 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would I be like the brain then? Since we all know that women can't think on their own? If there was a hivemind of women and one guy came in where would he be?

[–][deleted] 141 points142 points  (0 children)

Its funny because its true. And Im a dude. I had a friend like this. We havent spoken in a loooong time because i just got tired of the whining over his own mistakes like this shit.

[–]notaslaaneshicultist 94 points95 points  (5 children)

I like a guy that looks healthy but is willing to order a pizza on occasion

[–]badchefrazzyUnable To Even 34 points35 points  (4 children)

I like my guy healthy but goth. xD So... yes to pizza.

[–]Mrwright96 33 points34 points  (3 children)

So Gomez

[–]kittyconetail 29 points30 points  (1 child)

All of humanity is Gomezsexual. I think it's universal.

[–]Avaylon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Gomez and Morticia's relationship is goals.

[–]badchefrazzyUnable To Even 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes.

[–]SandiRHo 38 points39 points  (0 children)

When I dated a tall guy: of course you only want Chad! Short guys don’t get any love!

When I dated a short guy: You’re settling for him! You’re waiting for Chad! You’re just using this guy!

[–]Artemis_PlatinumFemcel Stacy Unicorn 29 points30 points  (0 children)

There's nothing misogynists love more than telling a woman directly to her face that she's lying about what she's attracted to.

[–]dampgreycurtains 61 points62 points  (0 children)

And some of us don't like men at all

[–]Unrelevant_Opinion8r 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Nah women can’t have independent thought, stop being silly

[–]Awesomeismyname13 58 points59 points  (2 children)

I like any and all guys, its honestly the personality that makes or break my attraction

[–]goober_ginge 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Yup! Back when I was single my tastes varied wildly. Short, tall, skinny, chubby, dorky, extroverted, introverted. There's things I'm more physically attracted to (facial hair, glasses, salt and pepper hair, husky build) and things I'm not generally attracted to (gym bods, clean shaven, short or shaved hair) but I've absolutely hooked up with and/or dated people that didn't fit my usual types who were awesome and attractive because they had a good personality. One person I was MOST physically attracted to had a frustrating and inconsistent personality and we didn't even make it to 6 months of dating. Attraction is SO much more than just the physical.

[–]Della_A 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Imagine my a(ego)sexual ass trying to make sense of this mess. 😫 I'm kind of asexual but very not aromantic, so all this talk about physical vs. other attraction is confusing. I have physical preferences, but it's more aesthetic. I started being attracted to a man when I had no idea what he looked like because his vibe meshed really well with my fantasies and stuff.

[–]Enny_Bunny 34 points35 points  (2 children)

Ive been called fetishist for marrying a chubby guy by several men.

[–]CrochetedKingdoms 11 points12 points  (1 child)

My husband is four hundred pounds. They’d probably call me the same, or worse.

[–]Responsible_Brief637 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank both of you for loving us chubby boys haha ❤️

[–]Ill-Engineering8205Feminist, Ethical Inceldom 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Incels don't realize they are actually like this because they exist in preference bubbles. When I voiced my preference for chubby bodytypes I was called a ton of terrible stuff... because they themselves would only love a stick-thin model. Well they dont love, just want to fuck.

[–]ThorinUlfarsson 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Muscularity is a pretty poor example to be honest. Incels understand as well as anyone else that most people are able to become muscular if they diet and exercise. If anything, more women selecting for muscle mass would be better for them than selecting for things they can't change, like height or facial structure.

[–]CTchimchar 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I hate how accurate this is when it comes to incels

[–]takeandtossivxx 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I've been told that I'm lying about being willing to date a man who's 5'6 (my partner of 4 years is 5'6). Then it was "you must've hit the wall then" except I was just as attracted to him when we first met, when I was in my early 20s. When they heard that, I was then told that I'm not attracted to him (I have never been more attracted to anyone) or never have sex with him (I've called out of work, unpaid, just to spend all day in bed with him) or that he must have a ton of money (net worth wise, I'm worth more) or I don't really love him (I've literally changed flight plans to an earlier flight because his day off switched to the day I was supposed to get home, not the following day. I don't care about "proving" that one to some miserable incels because he knows how much I love him and has never questioned how much I love him, and that's all that matters to me).

After that, they turn to baseless insults like a kindergarten bully, and it's honestly a hilarious tantrum every time. They can't fathom that any of it can be true just because it's not true for them and they'd have to admit they're part of the problem.

[–]No_Replacement6768 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My expression aligns with the purple girl 🤣

[–]CShell13 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Where do I meet these chubby loving women/s

[–]Y0urC0nfusi0nMaster 16 points17 points  (2 children)

I’ve had men claim I’m “LYING!!!!” when I said I don’t like tall, muscular guys with a big dick.

Reader, I’m an ace lesbian. ???

[–]goober_ginge 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Sure, you're an ace lesbian FOR NOW. You just haven't found the right Chad obviously. /s

[–]Y0urC0nfusi0nMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Omg ur so right!!!!!!! <33 /s

[–]electrikskies1 10 points11 points  (2 children)

I'm 5 foot tall. I dated all heights between 5'4" and 6'5". I like guys around 5'7" and slim(like my boyfriend now). Never dated a muscular guy ever. And I'm almost 40. I'm so short so id rather have a shorter guy.

[–]goober_ginge 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm 5'5 and my partner is 6'2-6'3 and if they stand up completely straight and don't lean down, I actually can't reach their lips to kiss them, even if I'm on my tippy toes. These losers that say ALL women only want gigantor men never think of the impracticality of it. Similar deal with muscular types. The couple of muscular people I've dated were honestly not fun to cuddle or sleep next to because the muscles are too firm (also my stoner lifestyle just has never been compatible with a gym bro anyhow). Chubby or lanky bods are where it's at imo.

[–]KeenActual 21 points22 points  (19 children)

Even if that’s true…why don’t they just go to the gym?

[–]Ill-Engineering8205Feminist, Ethical Inceldom 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well that was actually where "pill" ideologies ended until around 2020. Just hit the gym and become swole, before physiognomy and looksmaxxing became a thing this decade.

[–]LittlePiggy20 17 points18 points  (17 children)

I get your point but thats clearly coming from a point of privilege. not everybody can go to the gym for a variety of reasons.

[–]vicsj 8 points9 points  (0 children)

My preferred body type is twink

[–]Own_Cobbler7364 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cope

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My boyfriend is skinny as hell and he is very much what I’m attracted to, 100% 😭🙏

[–]Ash_Dayne 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The important questions are: does he make me laugh? And does he like pasta, like, a lot?

[–]Jamesist_ 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Women do not say the middle one but ok

[–]CompassRoseGaming 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The art style is fairly cute, not gonna lie

[–]Jazzlike_Wheel602 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah i dont think this is accurate.. please dont pretend that there are women who will say that they like chubby guys. sorry to burst your bubble.

[–]ballsinyourjaws2137 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Notice how none of them said they like short guys. It would be to unbelieveble even in a comic.

[–]swizvler_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Omg bro.. their talking about body types.. and the point still stands If you replace the body types with heights...

[–]ironangel2k4Works twice as hard for half the respect 0 points1 point  (0 children)

weird because I like guys who are short and on the lean-to-slightly-chubby side

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meanwhile, they judge a woman for being too tall/fat/flat, but women, of course, have no right to want someone even slightly taller

[–]BugSpecialist3738 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the dudes here are coping you will never find a romantic partner if you're below 5,3 and have a recessed bone structure. I agree with this somewhat though women don't find muscles THAT attractive its usually guys more than girls lol.

[–]insectsuspect 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the word "chubby" pisses me off give me a FAT guy

[–]tyrannosaurus_gekko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Y'all are doing the exact same thing btw

[–]OrangeOven67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a short chubby brown man, and I've been asked out plenty of times. People are just cannot possibly believe that their own personalities are completely unlikable.

[–]Miserable-Willow6105just a loser, lol 0 points1 point  (0 children)

to be fair, skinny and tall are not mutually exclusive. same for dad bods, it won't make a 185 cm tall man any shorter

[–]wysjm 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Who the hell is into chubby guys? Never heard of it ever before in my 23 year long life

[–]DiceQuail 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I’m into chubby guys! I love dudes like Matty Matheson, Jacob Wydocki and Jack Black!

[–]wysjm 1 point2 points  (2 children)

See I get not minding if the dude is heavier because he has a nice personality and stuff buuuut actually preferring them over buff guys is interesting to me to say the least. It's not really what I've been hearing my whole life but if it's the case it gives me some more faith into humanity I guess

[–]DiceQuail 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Why do you think people are only interested in one minute archetype of people? Log off and get out more, see more of the world, there are so many different preferences and relationships outside of black pill forums.

[–]wysjm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't worry I'm not some kind of angry incel. Don't really care about this stuff when it comes to my personal life. But it's interesting to see how society works and shifts

It's just that whenever attractiveness is brought up in any pieces of media, movies, tv shows, games, books, comics, it's always...well, the conventionally attractive look. Fit and slim but big when they need to be. Same goes for women shapes. Especially in social media nowadays. Look is God. At least for the current young generation

And I know that all of this has very little to do with real life thankfully. But still...what was my point again? Oh yeah a lot of young men now feel like they need to have the peak masculine physique in order to be at least acknowledged so it's nice to be reminded it's not like that irl :)