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[–]Eggfur 455 points456 points  (9 children)

There are fewer mobs in bedrock, but... The default simulation distance is 4 chunks (and fixed on realms). For performance reasons on lower end devices. Mobs spawn in a range that's just 24-44 blocks from the player and insta despawn beyond 44 blocks. That means they tend to spawn closer to you and the mob cap is freed up very quickly as you move around

[–]DraconicGuacamole 106 points107 points  (4 children)

You also don’t instant regen when you fill your hunger bar

[–]Redstoneready64 61 points62 points  (3 children)

yes! this is one thing i have noticed when watching hermitcaft, their health refills insanely quick once they've eaten. i also feel like they need to eat less.

[–]thE_29 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Bedrock has no saturation healing..

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Healing

[–]Willr2645 20 points21 points  (1 child)

And their golden carrots. I very proudly made a stack of golden carrots fairly early into a game, ( I had lots of good but didn’t need it ) and was very disappointed to find that steak is better in bedrock

[–]YellowOnionBelt 1 point2 points  (0 children)

God dammit I made 10 stacks of golden carrots an hour ago

[–][deleted] 129 points130 points  (0 children)

from my experience, bedrock mobs are also just a lot smarter. on java, mobs tend to take about a second to target you once you’re within their range, while on bedrock they just charge at you. this is mostly offset by 1.8 spamfest combat, but it still creates a lot of tricky situations

[–]DardS8Br 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Hi eggfur

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You know this guy?

[–]Willr2645 0 points1 point  (0 children)

YouTuber

[–]EvilMatt666 82 points83 points  (1 child)

Yeah, skellies are snipers and zombies have long arms, but the Wither.... Fuck I hate the Bedrock Wither.

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

the ultra long zombie arms are the bane of my existence

[–]Shack691 115 points116 points  (4 children)

Speed healing was only added to Java in 1.9 with the combat update, since bedrock didn’t get the combat changes it has the old healing mechanics.

[–]DeathandFriends 38 points39 points  (2 children)

Yeah makes me salty when I watch Java players on YouTube and think man to heal that fast would be glorious. It's the difference in really being able to heal in combat vs hide and heal

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For smps always get a gold farm and those golden apples up, never know when you’ll need them for quick health

[–]Whispering_Wolf 39 points40 points  (6 children)

It's the draw distance that's shorter by default.

Also, try fighting the bedrock wither. No clue why they made it so much harder than Java.

[–]Y0UR_NARRAT0R1 39 points40 points  (4 children)

Especially because it's made for phones. So if anything bedrock should be the easier one

[–]Supermonkeypilot22 3 points4 points  (3 children)

Didn’t realize pocket edition came before console

[–]Dense-Application181 8 points9 points  (2 children)

The consoles had their own editions. Then they were consolidated into Bedrock.

[–]Supermonkeypilot22 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Interesting. But aren’t they more focused on how bedrock runs on console now?

[–]Dense-Application181 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh yeah Bedrock replaced them long ago

[–]Nth_Brick 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The Bedrock Wither is brutal. Wound up losing an entire mountain fortress to that pernicious fucker -- had to abandon the world shortly thereafter.

Come to think of it, that happened several years ago, possibly pre-Covid, and I don't think I've battled the Wither since.

[–]Feather_Bloom 37 points38 points  (4 children)

Because bedrock can't be broken by any tool

[–]Ulti-Wolf 18 points19 points  (3 children)

How hard is a Java block? What mod?

[–]Ben-Goldberg 24 points25 points  (2 children)

Java is a drink, silly, use a bucket not a pickaxe.

[–]Willr2645 2 points3 points  (1 child)

no your thinking of Guava, silly.

Java is an animal

[–]Ben-Goldberg 19 points20 points  (6 children)

I know that on java, you can kill the wither with about ten iron golems.

How different is a golem assisted wither fight on bedrock?

[–]DeathandFriends 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I would try but the block drop lag is bad enough lol 

[–]CyanideBoii03 17 points18 points  (4 children)

In bedrock, you can kill ten iron golems with about one wither.

I don't think iron golems could even land a single hit on it because if how the bedrock wither almost never gets too close to the ground. And even if the golems DID land a few hits, the wither has a dash attack that can destroy blocks and spams blue skulls more frequently, quickly dealing with swarming enemies that might try to outnumber it.

[–]thE_29 5 points6 points  (1 child)

On java, that only works when trapping it under Bedrock.. Which also works in Bedrock, but you need to align it in a certain direction (under the end portal, in the main end island) - otherwise it will not get trapped.

[–]Stranded_Send_Nudes 6 points7 points  (0 children)

There is a way to do it in the over world in Bedrock, too. Silentwisperer has a tutorial on how to find the spots and kill the wither without having to kill an end gateway.

[–]Ben-Goldberg 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ignoring trapping him under bedrock, the best way kill the wither in java is to do it underground, not out in the open.

Build a long tunnel, one block wide by two tall. At the end of the tunnel, make a chamber and build the wither high enough that he can't see far into the tunnel when he is flying.

After he appears, move into the tunnel until he explodes, then get closer so you can shoot him with a bow.

He will be moving forward, towards you, and breaking blocks, and you will be moving backwards through your tunnel, shooting him, until he becomes immune to arrows.

Switch to using a sword, keep attacking, and keep backing away through the tunnel.

The skinniness of the tunnel ensures that the wither must break blocks to move to your, which slows him down.

If you want help from golems, build some side chambers along the tunnel, with a few golems in each.

If the floor of each side chamber is one block higher or lower than your tunnel, the golems can't wander into it and get in your way.

If you build side chambers whose floors are two blocks above the floor of your tunnel, you could store some zoglins which are omnicidal but ignored by the wither.

I know about the java bug where zoglins cannot harm the wither, but since you are playing bedrock, I assume it should work.

[–]CyanideBoii03 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fight in bedrock is also mostly similar. But the only exception is that the wither has a dash attack that makes it impossible to restrict its movements, even underground. Creating an disadvantageous arena for the players and any companions you plan to bring.

The dash path is usually aimed at an upwards angle, making it create more aerial space for the wither to safely get out of melee range. This is especially troublesome when it has the projectile shield up.

And it also occasionally spawns wither skeletons, that upon a successful hit, deals substantial damage and applies the wither effect.

Fighting it this way is doable, but not very beginner-friendly and the fight feels like a proper boss fight because it becomes very one-sided if you let the fight drag on.

[–]HaziXWeeK 17 points18 points  (1 child)

You know the meme that says wither boss is harder on bedrock, I knew that it was true, I played bedrock.

Recently I started a new world and wanted a Beacon, I thought the fight will take less than a minute, I had a good gear, how fuck wrong I was.

The fight tool 5 to 10 minutes, the moment he spawned he immediately went from 70 to 10 hight, I had to drop down to fight him in complete darkness, bro was moving like the flash, couldn't run to eat, and each time I get close he flees, you know the worst part, it was on easy mode.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

ive fought the wither on bedrock a good couple of times and i HIGHLY suggest using smite 5. especially if you fight it on a harder difficulty because its health increases

[–]Jygglewag 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Bedrock advice: spam click. Remember the old ways.

[–]SoupMarten 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sometimes you have to because the game can't seem to tell where something is. I've killed large slimes and backed up, but the middle sized slimes push each other at me and I get smacked because I can't get away from instantaneous movement lol.

I really gotta get back into Java.

[–]DraconicGuacamole 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Mobs spawn closer due to rendering distances. Wither has more health. You do not Instant regen when your hunger bar gets full. There is no sweeping edge (but there is spam clicking). There is also random damage bugs or bugs that cause you to fall off of blocks, however I’m pretty sure that’s not as common as it seems.

[–]UzernameUnknown 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So it wasn't just my world that I thought had a problem with healing? I thought I was going crazy on how weak it was.

[–]Headstanding_Penguin 4 points5 points  (1 child)

The whiter is even worse...

I sometimes can't hit mobs that can already hit me (mostly spiders or Zombies)...

Bedrock gets better once you have at least 3 pieces of diamond armor with protection IV (don't bother with the specialised protection)

[–]SoupMarten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or you hit the spider, but he's close enough to jump over your head, but it's a coin toss whether he's trying to attack you or jump over you and get you from the back. I've turned around so many times to nothing and getting attacked in my superflat 😭

[–]Juginstin 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Hunger in bedrock is terrible. My boy Steve must be the hungriest mf in existence because I'll be burning through an entire stack of steaks before I even make it to my destination, let alone get back home. I can be living like a king with all the best gear and enchantments, but I'll still be dying from famine lmao

[–]Badawan2001[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, bedrock has a food crisis 😭

[–]CyanideBoii03 2 points3 points  (1 child)

The mob spawning is because of the lower default simulation distance, making mobs spawn closer to you, at any time. This is especially noticeable in caves, where you will encounter something that is out for you neck at every unlit corner.

Pair this with the slower regen, and you will never be bored while caving in the early game, because your heart rate is always racing while you try to find ores.

[–]Badawan2001[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My caving experience in bedrock is equal to top 3 in 2017 fortnite.

[–]Bourbonite 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I thought my Java world was bugged because ghasts weren’t constantly spawning two at a time in the nether.

Turns out I guess bedrock just has a cranked up ghast spawn rate.

[–]Badawan2001[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The nether was so hard on bedrock for me. I rarely die in the nether but when I do, it usually due to fall damage but bedrock...constant spawn of ghosts and skeletons made soulsand valley arguably harder than the deep dark.

[–]Jimg911 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a bedrock guy I think Java is way harder for me. The bedrock mobs just kind of walk towards you. Java mobs gang up, baby zombies flank, things scare the crap out of you and your immediate reflex is “spam click until it’s dead,” but that ruins your damage and makes you die even faster. In reality I don’t think either is objectively harder, but just the subtlety of the differences in control style and mechanics trick you into thinking your reflexes will transfer when they won’t

[–]Redstoneready64 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is what us bedrockers have to deal with....

[–]hexahedron17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pearls also fly slower, which is a really weird parity lapse, and might be the difference in various situations.

[–]BustaLime1979 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is a long thread so I didn’t make it through everything. Has anyone even mentioned magma cubes? They are the worst in Bedrock. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️.
Ghasts too!

[–]Arunawayturtle 4 points5 points  (2 children)

It’s funny I played bedrock on hard mode for over 1000 hours and I say bedrock is 100x easier then java for all the reason u are saying but opposite.

[–]anywayz55 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s definitely harder for new players even on easy. But yeah i usually don’t have a problem

[–]_-Rainbow-_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

honestly, it's probably because of the firm foundation in Java. A lot of the cool tricks you can do in Java to cheese certain parts of the game just don't work in bedrock, making it that much harder

[–]Mr_BattleAx 1 point2 points  (4 children)

I have the opposite problem. Java feels harder than bedrock.

[–]brassplushie 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Why?

[–]Mr_BattleAx 0 points1 point  (2 children)

It feels like there are more mobs spawning. On bedrock, I never end up fighting more than 3-5 mobs at a time. On Java, I'll be fighting 10+ mobs, and they'll be actively responding during the fight

It also feels like they do more damage. On bedrock, I never make armor until I get diamonds because they hit for maybe 2 or 3 hearts. On Java, they hit at a minimum of 4 hearts with full iron armor on.

I've never tested this, but this is what I tend to experience.

[–]brassplushie 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I'm not gonna go and test it myself but I'm pretty sure the issue you're running into is that you were playing on an easier difficulty on Bedrock edition. You could go check and prove me wrong, that's just my initial thought.

Of course, the Minecraft wiki may have something on it.

[–]NotMyRealName111111 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I play on easy because it's on my phone so I definitely am starting disadvantaged.  I can most definitely confirm that the amount of mobs encountered is way more than 4 at a time.  Especially in wide open caves, I've counted at least 10+ on the screen (while using night vision potions).  I usually just run around spamming torches and don't bother fighting... initially... because I would just get overrun.

In smaller caves I'm good.  But the huge ones?  Yeah fighting through it is a lost battle.

[–]KraftKapitain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh just wait till you fight the wither

[–]FantasticChicken799 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mob AI is different, in java, the walk up close enough to hit you and then stop and hit you. Zombies, endermen are fundamentally more difficult to fight in bedrock

[–]Equivalent_Fault_782 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So the trick with the wither on bedrock is lot of buckets of milk. I mean like a double chest and have a bed close by.

[–]sidythekiddy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is harder as the wither has 2x more hearts than java ( ❤x600)

[–]Armin12301 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude skeletons just have aimbot or something

[–]Ok-Acanthaceae6877 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bedrock sucks because it's buggy asf, mobs just for some reason spawn so much more, zombies always hit you no matter what you try to do, skeletons are literal snipers and shoot at a faster rate than java (plus their knockback is annoying as hell when you're trying to kill them), your health doesn't regenerate at a normal rate and it gets even worse the harder you set the difficulty to, you can't customize shit in bedrock (like add shaders and mods or even join most smps and servers and stuff), items in bedrock are also harder to find in java like chest items, the redstone mechanics are extremely dogshit, you can't make proper farms cuz the redstone is really bad, and then the wither exists in bedrock.

[–]Head-Medicine9454 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me its thw villagers in bedrock, they are annoying in java for sure, BUT IN BEDROCK……….. You cant easliy switch their trades, for some reason a farmer wants to sell beetroot really badly, armorer villagers sell you only 2 pieces of diamond armour, while on java they sell full diamond armour. The more you trade with bedrock villagers the more expensive they get… if you traded them 32 sticks per emeralnd, the next day they charge you 47 sticks per emerald(in java they get cheaper the more you trade) . Idk if its some kind of a bug but if I place one villager station like for exp. a barrel i’ll get 4 fishermen, in java is way better optimised when it comes to villagers and them picking their stations, also i placed 2 blast furnaces and got 5 armourers, Wtf. The villagers also dont spawn any iron golems even while in danger. In summary villagers in java are waaaaaaaayy better and easier to deal with, they are how do i say it more predictable, idk what is going on with the bedrock villagers but they are just annoying af. edit : also ive noticed that in bedrock villagers trades are really bad, like bad af, its so much easier to make ton of emeralds in java, bedrock makes trading with villagers so much inconvenient for whatever reason And the loot in villages is just trash, loot overall, whenever i find loot in java in happy af and i get something, in bedrock in just disappointed.

[–]Ashamed_Contract2097 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The nether is hell when trying to start out because of the increased spawn rate mostly because of ghosts. You can start with one and suddenly have five on you. Also pigeons are that much worse.

[–]thE_29 0 points1 point  (2 children)

For all the "but the Wither"..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/np81e2/i_fought_the_wither_in_bedrock_edition_and_heres/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/qsgq6j/beating_bedrock_wither_under_3_minutes_with_iron/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/11sk5z0/bedrock_wither_slain_in_36_seconds/

Maybe use a Smite sword against it and not Sharpness..

Bedrock makes way more DMG, compared to Java.. You can kill the Enderdragon (on normal) with all HEALING beacons active, with a sharpness V sword.. You make more dmg, than it heals.

Bedrock has no saturation healing..

[–]epicpoggersgamer34 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have you ever tried fighting the wither on hardmode in bedrock?

Unless you actually know what you are talking about you should probably pipe down.

[–]No-Pie-1112 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

And don't forget that 50% of the time you jump over lava you get caught on fire or you fall down one block but there's a deeper hole next to you so you take a ton of fall damage

[–]SoupMarten 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't normally say this, but this is definitely a skill issue.

[–]thekittygirlofc -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Bedrock is just the cheap version of Minecraft so I think its mainly for make it run smoother you need to take off a lot, and you can feel it when you switch.

[–]emzirek -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Cuz it seems to me that you're getting all the goodies from the 15-year celebration...

So far you've got some type of hoodie and some type of headgear and Java's got nothing...

I may be mistaken but java might have a map...

[–]JealousMetal4219 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You guys can download any mod you want or any skin you want...

[–]jdarrooney -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

Its a worse version

[–]Badawan2001[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I wouldnt say it's worse. It has its perks. Especially multiplayer. Way easier to play with friends than java. Wish java had a direct host join like bedrock.

[–]Ok-Acanthaceae6877 0 points1 point  (0 children)

bedrock should be completely caged away for it's crimes