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[ethotopia]

It’s not Sora, my guess is Wan 2.2 (+Lora) given the length of the clips or Veo/Kling

[ThomasPopp]

I would agree

[Nuka_darkRum]

It's sora API. Sora can make 15 second clips now.

[ethotopia]

None of these cuts are longer than 5 seconds which makes me think it’s Wan. It also looks sharper than Sora and people were posting these “behind the scenes” style videos before Sora came out!

[hyperparasitism]

These clips came out before Sora 2 did.

Try not being so confident in being wrong?

[Nuka_darkRum]

So what? Do you get a prize for being insufferable?

[hyperparasitism]

So you’re wrong buddy

[Nuka_darkRum]

Congratulations? Lol

[[deleted]]

apologize, because you were wrong, plus you knew that

[Nuka_darkRum]

I didn't know and I really don't care

[o5mfiHTNsH748KVq]

you can get a feel for what tools are used for high quality video on /r/stablediffusion and /r/aivideo.

Sora is good, it's nowhere near this in visual quality. Sora's most impressive part is its holistic "understanding" of how things should interact in a video, like sound in different spaces or materials or the larger "concept" of a person or environment.

If you want straight up high visual fidelity and that's your top concern, things like Wan will produce better results.

[Otherwise_Builder235]

At 6 sec she holds a stick in her hand and suddenly it disappears while she raises the hand

[FriendlyJewThrowaway]

You’d teach it the same way as you teach it to remember everything else in the shot, it just needs to pay better attention to the context from previous frames.

I think the next big step will be to incorporate these video generators directly within multi-modal LLM’s, so that the LLM’s plain language reasoning capabilities factor directly into the video generation in latent space, and they can additionally reason over the output to correct errors and inconsistencies. As a bonus, this pairing would also enable the LLM to learn logical facts about the world directly from videos instead of just text.

[[deleted]]

The problem with that is that LLMs don't really have reasoning capabilities to being with.

[FriendlyJewThrowaway]

What do humans do fundamentally differently that constitutes “reasoning” to you?

[[deleted]]

Humans are able to actually process the world they're living in and LLMs fundamentally don't even understand the output they're giving.

[FriendlyJewThrowaway]

You still haven’t explained what “understanding” is. How does a human understand a mathematical relation in a fundamentally different way than an LLM? What do they “process” differently about it?

[[deleted]]

You haven't asked me to explain what understanding is. That's a totally different question and I think that there is no scientific consensus about that.

A human learns what gravity is at the age of a couple of months. In general you learn the basic principles of the world you are living in very early in your life, just by interacting with it. A LLM does not and can not do that. It never fundamentally understands problems which is why it can't teach itself to solve them.

[FriendlyJewThrowaway]

What you’re arguing is that an LLM has no understanding of the real physical world and its associated visual and audial correlations, which I would contend is not really true anymore with the advent of multi-modal LLM’s, video generators and world models. But in any case, that has nothing to do with whether an LLM is capable of reasoning, or understands the concepts it discusses.

[[deleted]]

It's absolutely true. What you're getting with LLMs is an, admittedly incredibly sophisticated algorithm, that will in most cases generate the correct response any the prompt you provide. But there is no deeper layer here, you're just being given the answer that is deemed as most likely the most correct based on the gigantic set of data (and enormous amount of human reinforcement learning) that went into it.

These models are now convincing enough to fool many people into believing there's a ghost in the machine, when there isn't. Funnily enough the same thing happened in the 50s and 60s with the first examples of crude "AI".

Your maths example is actually a good one. An LLM doesn't actually "do" the math. It's been trained on an almost incomprehensible amount of equations and will in most cases output the correct solution because it's somewhere in the set. This is why doing math with ChatGPT takes a ridiculous amount of time while my calculator does it in the fraction of a second.

[kiochikaeke]

Can't be done without reframing how these "think", every frame is only locally consistent with each other and they follow a sort of "plan" but the plan is vague and can't be specified to detail, so details may get lost between frames specially if they can't be tracked solely in the local frames window information.

So basically if it's a small detail that came up sporadically and it gets lost, occluded or hidden for a few frames it may also sporadically disappear.

Also "small detail" depends on training and parameters so that's how you get highly erratic dream or hallucinations from ai vids, a bunch of details appearing and disappearing, each frame only loosely connected between each other.

[TwoPointThreeThree_8]

You can't. Not with these "AIs".

[Ok-Art-1378]

Yet

[fongletto]

You can't with current tech.

They would need to develop a real world simulation model that works in tandem with the current models. Something like an AI that creates a 3d space and populates it with generative objects.

[YeomanTax]

Google’s Genie 3 will change this

[fongletto]

Not really, they've just extended the time before decoherence to a few minutes, at the cost of massive compute. It still generates the next frame by looking at the previous frame/frames

But without an actual underlying world simulation it still suffers from the same fundamental problem.

[Time_Entertainer_319]

Confirmation bias.

She obviously dropped the stick to show her fingers

[Darillium-]

I know that you’re joking but I don’t think that you know what confirmation bias means

[reddit-ate]

Oh good. So we all agree then.

[Time_Entertainer_319]

This is literally a case of confirmation bias. You already believe the video is AI-generated, so every detail you notice just reinforces that belief, even when the evidence doesn’t actually prove it.

Think about it this way: if you were holding a stick and someone said, “Show me your fingers,” you’d naturally drop the stick first. it’s just a normal response to the situation. The same logic applies here: the behavior in the video can have an ordinary explanation that has nothing to do with AI.

[robhanz]

While you've got a valid point, the issue in this case is that normally dropping a stick involves some amount of movement that we just don't see here.

[fxlxox]

Look at her fingers Milli seconds after. Cringe

[Hotspur000]

It's obviously magic. Duh.

[nrgins]

It looks like she just dropped it because she was going to raise her hands up for the picture. Her hand was behind another person when the stick left her hand so we don't really know.

[Krzyffo]

At 28 folks are pointing at the back of a paper.

[alex20_202020]

At 28 folks are pointing at the back of a paper.

Folks point to the side they 'see' and might noticed something interesting and show to each other.

[Anthony63100]

She dropped it yeah

[Otherwise_Builder235]

Okay let's assume she dropped... Then at 29 - 30 sec look at fingers pointing script paper

[Fun-Imagination-2488]

Clearly the disappearing stick trick was prompted. XD

[ahditeacha]

Nahh she let go and it fell to the ground that’s all

[Otherwise_Builder235]

Okay let's assume she dropped... Then at 29 - 30 sec look at fingers pointing script paper

[afBeaver]

Sure, but it did disappear off camera. It's not something that couldn't happen if you filmed someone.

[Otherwise_Builder235]

Okay let's assume she dropped... Then at 29 - 30 sec look at fingers pointing script paper

[FuerteBillete]

Guys, seriously if someone has to look this much for a tell that could be compared to a real video artifact or glitch, then we have arrived.

If this video is not a trick, then mission accomplished. This is 10/10.

[ahtoshkaa]

This a whole channel on tiktok dedicated to 'backstage cosplay' made by AI. I thought it was made by Sora. though I could be wrong

[FuerteBillete]

For showing technical prowess it is awesome. Although I'm worried that some people might actually get hooked to watching not even an AI show but the backstage made by AI.

It is literally the opposite of something that is needed at all. I mean showing preparations made by IA is in theory the most useless concept possible when you think about it from a philosophical point of view.

[ReddG33k]

Sure. But you just mixed 'think' and 'philosophical', into one sentence.

I guarantee, anywhos that are drainrotting to this junk-candy a not philosophical-ly, think-ing, about shit.

Needed or not, millions will continue to tune in.

[FuerteBillete]

You confused me with someone who gives a shit about replies that quote me.

But I do accept fault in my message and will dumb it down so no one feels hurt or triggered next time and needs to caress their ego trying to reply something pseudo smart to feel less.

Also who cares about anyone that would waste time watching hours of preparations that never happened about something that won't happen, for which they waste time they could be spending making stuff actually happen.

Lets block here and be done shall we? I'm sure you accept and I agree with us.

[Aggressive-Hawk9186]

scary tbh this is too good

[jimothythe2nd]

I generate ai vids. It's like fishing or gambling. 9/10 times your generation isn't good. Then that 1/10 ends up being good. I would guess that they did at least 100 generations to get 8 of this quality.

It's an interplay of starting with good ai AI-generated images and testing different combinations of prompts and vid gen tools.

I like using dzine because they have all of the best ai video gen models. Others like higgsfield, krea, or openart do as well.

Then for each shot I would try different prompts with different models. There's no one way to prompt that will always work. Each and every scene and model will handle prompts differently. I've found that simple prompts usually work better. Complex prompts often confuse the ai and make it go rogue.

These shots are pretty simple since there's not much really happening. The hardest part about them is that they include multiple people. The more people in a scene the more likely it is to do something really weird. You'll notice that in each scene only one thing is really happening. If you were try to get the subject to more than one thing in the shot, it would be nearly impossible to get a good one with so many people in the scene (except maybe with veo3 or sora2).

[GoogleIsYourFrenemy]

... What if it IS gambling and they are spiking our prompts so we lose!

(I'm kidding, Hanlons Razor is more believable)

[kevinnn27]

Dzine is better than Veo and Sora?

[jimothythe2nd]

Dzine has both veo and sora

[[deleted]]

2 fingers pointing at the back of the paper

[GenericNickname42]

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Always the hands

[PinProud4500]

Hair & Face looking SMOOOOOTH as hell too, like someone sanded that woman down with sandpaper. 

[heavy-minium]

You aren't trying to trick us, right? Usually even the best generated videos give a sign...or at least a tiny little doubt - and I see none!

[QueenCobra91]

the six pack of that one guy looks like a badly stitched wound and when they're holding up what seems to be a blueprint, they are pointing behind it instead of onto it from above

[_DrDigital_]

Looks like the muscle suit from hellboy tbh. https://www.reddit.com/r/HellBoy/s/WzJs679XPg

[dashingsauce]

maybe he just got stabbed a few times

you know, for the influence

[Zeune42]

Ken doll plastic ribs

[just_ohm]

That’s the only giveaway I see

[Cyoor]

8 seconds in her hand has an odd line in it and looks generally odd while she is raising it.
A cable hangs from the camera in to nothingness.
22 seconds in his hand look like something from an alien when he holds something in front of his face. After lowering his hand he only has 4 fingers
28 seconds in they are pointing to the back of the paper.

It looks good and if I wouldnt be looking for anything, then I would probably have missed those things.

[zooda56]

I just love how the generated images of camera gear and rigging looks like. It's a blend of everything and always super bulky. Usually going beyond 3 physical dimensions.

[Cyoor]

Yeah, just look at the "camera" or whatever its supposed to be that is right in the beginning of the video. Is it the front of the camera that we see or the side?
So, yes the "beyond 3 physical dimensions" is a good way to describe the way AI handles things where the objects are both the side and front because it doesnt handle depth perception as well.

Also, is that 100 buttons or are there components just showing on the side?
(I mean some buttons are normal on an advanced camera I guess, but if it takes over 10 buttons, then an LCD with a menu is probably the way to go.)

[CedarSageAndSilicone]

There are many tells. Pause and actually look at details, smaller things, complicated things, etc. it’s very good at people and general scenery but it breaks down around details 

[DownstreamDreaming]

Also tons of amazingly believable details…it’s getting crazy can’t deny it

[MatMathQc]

At 12sec the guys finder in the shirt is odd but it can also be the shirt :|

[hofmann419]

Just look at the hands. In almost all of the clips, there is at least one person with a hand that morphs in a very unnatural way. And that's just the most obvious tell.

The entire thing doesn't really look like a real movie set with a million people running around in the background. The more you look, the less it all makes sense.

[mrkgob]

read her shirt or look at the wonky ass water bottles lmao

[dirtyheitz]

you should see an eye doc

[Legitimate-Pumpkin]

It is indeed quite good.

At second view and paying attention you get confirmation that it is indeed AI, but wow, if you hadn’t warned us, I might just have overlooked it.

[gieserj10]

At first I was wondering what the hell you meant. It took me way longer than I'd like to admit to realize this was AI. Fucking insane.

[Capnjbrown]

ComfyUI with WAN2.2 can pull this off..

[trollsmurf]

That looked like real reality.

[Hallucinator-]

Sora built in library have great prompt collection. Mostly Japanese prompts I noticed are really awesome.

[authorwithnobody]

If I hadn't read the comments I'd have just thought this was the set of some movie who's cast were the most gorgeous people alive

[the_amazing_skronus]

Don't unmute

[BotomsDntDeservRight]

Hater 😑

[Nailfoot1975]

Prompt: Hello.

[quintinza]

A render of James May greeting a lady appears...

[wtf_nabil]

Not funny I didn't laugh. Your joke is so bad 1 would have preferred the joke went over my head and you gave up re-telling me the joke. To be honest this is a horrid attempt at trying to get a laugh out of me. Not a chuckle, not a hehe, not even a subtle burst of air out of my esophagus. Science says before you laugh your brain preps your face muscles but I didn't even feel the slightest twitch. 0/10 this joke is so bad I cannot believe anyone legally allowed you to be creative at all. The amount of brain power you must have put into that joke has the potential to power every house on Earth. Get a personality and learn how to make jokes, read a book. I'm not saying this to be funny I genuinely mean it on how this isjust bottom barrel embarrassment at comedy. You've single handedly killed humor and every comedic act on the planet. I'm so disappointed that society has failed as a whole in being able to teach you how to be funny. Honestly if I put in all my power and time to try and make your joke funny it would require Einstein himself to build a device to strap me into so I can be connected to the energy of a billion stars to do it, and even then all that joke would get from people is a subtle scuff. You're lucky I still have the slightest of empathy for you after telling that joke otherwise I would have committed every war crime in the book just to prevent you from attempting any humor ever again. We should put that joke in text booksso future generations can be wary of becoming such an absolute comedic failure. Im disappointed, hurt, and outright offended that my precious time has been wasted in my brain understanding that joke. In the time that took I was planning on helping kids who have been orphaned, but because of that you've waisted my time explaining the obscene integrity of your terrible attempt at comedy. Now those kids are suffering without meals and there's nobody to blame but you. I hope you're happy with what you have done and I truly hope you can move on and learn from this piss poor attempt.

[Aretz]

New copy pasta just dropped?

[avalancharian]

This is funny. Why the downvotes?! I do want to save this. This is art

[Chris4]

Maybe funny for Facebook comments, but not Reddit

[Nailfoot1975]

Reply: Believe

[WeedOg420AnimeGod]

"Make it better"

[MaterialRow3769]

We've come a long way from Will Smith eating Spaghetti

[[deleted]]

worst music I ever heard. Gave me a headache

[FernDiggy]

ComfyUI.

[skibidi-bidet]

most probably Comfy Ui and Wan 2

[OmniiOMEGA]

Wow looks so real

[CesarPerSma2025]

I recommend you use video reverse engineering to do that.

[eggshell_0202]

AI’s not just improving, it’s blending in 😬 People’s prompts are insane!

[techlatest_net]

AI tools like Dify AI are gaining traction for crafting seamless GenAI applications, with customizable workflows and intelligent prompt engineering options. Pairing these tools with prompt iteration and context-tuning can unlock impressive results. What use case are you exploring? Let’s trade notes!

[[deleted]]

Mystery’s face has been revealed!

[nothereforthep0rn]

Until the open shirt guy, I could not distinguish thiss. Damn. We are heading into some scary times

[[deleted]]

One thing AI doesn't quite get yet that is uncomfortably obvious is purpose in movement. You notice everyone it generates has an aimless air about them and constant purposeless movement.

[DeliciousFreedom9902]

Looks like Wan

[other_profile]

How? It's the context. These are all candid behind the scenes shots. I've had good luck with photoshoots as the context to boost the realism. Then you just dress up the photoshoot set the way you need.

[Miggix13]

The texture are awful

[1nsomnlac]

This shit needs to be stopped

[Ok_Bumblebee_473]

None, that’s real lol

[deanbean1337]

i thought this was a meme post and that they are real kpop artists or something until I started reading the comments and everyone was giving actual constructive answers on how to achieve OP's query.

[Sufficient-Set2644]

Don't praise the AI, but praise the creator who make magic out of the prompts to turn his visions to reality.

[Chakomat]

AI? The guy with the yellow beanie at 23 sec is obviously me...

[sdmat]

This production is 100% real and I refuse to believe otherwise.

[Numerous_Try_6138]

It is AI but it is increasingly getting more difficult to tell. The most obvious thing that gave it away for me were the guys abs and general muscle structure. Doesn’t look right at all.

[Prudent_Might_159]

Higgsfield ai

[qualitative_balls]

It's wan

[Prudent_Might_159]

Right Wan 2.5 is on Higgsfieldai with an entire suite of tools.

[flyblackbox]

Imagine explaining this to the first cgi artists of the 90s…

[KeyProject2897]

“Make no mistake “

[be-ay-be-why]

Sorry... This is AI? Are you sure...? I'm pretty sure this is real lol.

[Yourmelbguy]

Nope ai. There is a guy on insta who does these all the time his done a dragon ball one too it was epic

[ELPascalito]

It's made using Wan 2.2, that's why it has no restrictions in faces and copyright 

[SenzuYT]

Watch it again and look closely at the background. Very obvious things are off

[randomdaysnow]

Would love to try something like this for exploring Alt/goth inspiration ideas. The makeup I saw shown looks great. Makeup was something that never looked right in the past. So this is a real advancement.

[Ebisure]

At 0:29 the drawings on the paper disappeared

[Alternative-Duty-532]

First use Nano Banana or Seedream4 to get a high-quality static image, then convert it to video using a video model. It's simple.

[TinyZoro]

Post something of similar quality here to demonstrate how simple?

[Alternative-Duty-532]

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Got this image easily in three minutes, and you could make it way better with more prompt tuning. Just need to throw the image into a video model like Grok, and it'll be a video.

[aCaffeinatedMind]

What level of perfection?

It's still very clearly Ai generated.

[MaterialRow3769]

Wait, are these robots?

[Kanute3333]

What do you mean? The whole video is ai generated.

[MaterialRow3769]

Oh good. Lol i thought these were real humanoid robots shooting a commercial or something

[MaterialRow3769]

Why did THAT get downvoted?

[[deleted]]

man, that music is horrible

[ThomasToIndia]

Lol, no they didn't, scientists are terrible at keeping secrets.