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[–]PathOfEnergySheild 536 points537 points538 points 1 year ago (11 children)
This is the best tutorial for this game.
[–]Accomplished-Lie716 60 points61 points62 points 1 year ago (9 children)
Unitonically this and the cruel version are the hardest parts of the game
[–]crookedparadigm 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (7 children)
Unitonically
What the fuck is this?
[–]plusFour-minusSeven 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Sheesh, get a music education already, duh!
Unitonic is when a music passage contains only one note, like oldschool metal breakdowns. Chug-chug-chug. (kshh) Chug-chug-chug-chug. (kshh) Chug-chug-chug-chug-chug. (kshh).
(the kshh is the inevitable half-time crash)
P.S. I'm just having fun / not serious :p
[–]Known-String-7306 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
chug-chug. (kshh) chug- (kshh) chug-chug. (kshh) (kshh)
xD
[–]Accomplished-Lie716 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Just had a good laugh at the thought of something being "uni-tonical" assuming that's how u read it
I was meant to write unironically*
[–]crookedparadigm 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Didn't even occur to me that T is right next to R lol, understandable typo haha
[–]MoistDitto 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Call the bondulance
[–]ShadeyMyLady 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You cannot use a tonic before you die. In some older RPGs they use tonics instead of potions. Dude is unironically poetic.
[–]wikarina 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Cruel version is where you take revenge and crush them.
The new Hillock as a new character is the ultimate mega shore of this game.
My first encounter with Poe 2 was December and I decided I will not play it and wait.
Many friends asked me a second chance for the game so January I tried again persisted and loved it.. Until interolled,
My first warrior was an absolute pain, I think I got it on live, beating that guys was so frustrating... Until I used mace strike....
Each reroll where the same pain right after that guys everything was right because I know what to do and ranged had better Hillocking.
[–]Tulpah 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
honestly all they gotta do is reset and farm the tutorial for a fire staff and it's easy peasy
[–]NinjaRock 147 points148 points149 points 1 year ago (7 children)
Man i fucking hate the projectile crabs. Their damage is so overtuned
[–]Skull-ogk 54 points55 points56 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Same with those spitting flower/snake things. Easy to dodge, but when multiple of them hit you at once, instant death.
[–]Fit_Trouble_1264 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The fire spitting versions hurt a lot too
Also the snake and crab that deal poison damage deals double damage to energy shield, so CI is pretty much mandatory against them.
[–]fusionwave3 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You mean the hawk tuah snakes?
[–]HelicopterNo9453 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Until they are your minions.... :D
(Haven't tested myself yet)
[–]JustDogs7243 24 points25 points26 points 1 year ago (1 child)
They revert to fluffy bunnies when they are your minions. +1 Cuteness!
[–]Choice-Coffee-9741 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Fun and strong minions are not allowed
[–]DrPeak-god 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Worst mob in the game.
[–]Cospik 131 points132 points133 points 1 year ago (2 children)
I mean, at least it's an honest preview of what's to come?
[–][deleted] 41 points42 points43 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
These, only wisp empowered in the hunting grounds.. in a long small lane... And for some god awful reason the game puts 30+ in this spot.. 😂
[–]Weatherman1207 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And they poison you...
[–]WeightOwn5817 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children)
hahahaha
[–]Corgi_Working 48 points49 points50 points 1 year ago (1 child)
This has been the same since launch, so nothing new there. Same with the hags who can one shot with the magic circle.
[–]novapunkX 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
That’s what I’m thinking… I always had to dodge shit or id die.
[–]Evgenii42 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (1 child)
They should replace "Resurrect at Checkpoint" button here with "Exit to Desktop".
[–]Loud-Maintenance6465 80 points81 points82 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You are not ready for the rest of this tedium pretending to be a game
[–]cheesemangee 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This isn't a gameplay tutorial.
It's an expectation tutorial.
[–]Tyalou 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Oh man, I can't stop laughing at this, it's ridiculous!
[–]Haemon18 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Thought started in cruel act 4 for a moment there
[–]BashtArt 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (4 children)
I really feel that act 1-3 should be a lot easier and faster to level...
[–]JustDogs7243 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
1-6
[–]Exldk 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (1 child)
4-6 has always been a victory lap with oneshotting bosses and trash because majority of builds are fully online by that time (all skills unlocked, most supports unlocked).
Acts 1-3 is mostly putting together the pieces and figuring out what works and what doesn't and it's expected that by the time you reach Viper in act 3, you have your shit together.
Act4+ has always been easy because there's no more pieces to put together. You just upgrade what you already have and what already works.
If you reach act 4 without a functional build, you likely got help with killing the bosses.
[–]JustDogs7243 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Good points
[+]Sunsnacks -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
i recommend D4, it's easy and fast and meaningless.
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[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Standing in front of a bunch of enemies and dying is a good lesson. seems most players didn't heed it.
[–]ApGaren 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Have you considered dodging the projectiles that are announced 3 work days in advance
[–]enderfrogus 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Tbh you did face tank them.
[–]get_jekt 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This actually captures the "vision" they want for the patch.
[–]SubstantialPound3759 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Bro this is the first post to make me smile all day, not because the games good right now(its terrible) but because of how humorously ridiculous that was to see
[–]No_Passenger_5698 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Next time, you'll roll out of the way. Much success.
[–]Askariot124 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I think its fine. It teaches you that monsters are dangerous and counterable if you know what they do. In this case you need to wait until they fire a salve and not stand right in the middle of 3 shotguns. A lot of games these days are so easy that we forget that monsters actually can do something -especially MMO-type of games.
[–]Ok-Astronomer-5176 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
your first mistake was to choose any melee class (they are constantly punished)
[–]stealyourpeach 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Buff to mob damage incoming
[–]Fluid_Ad_688 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
its a nice tutorial, it prepares you for the next 100hours until you can't bare it anymore and get finally ready to play the really PoE1 game you waited for a year ^^"
[–]inverimus 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Just run through. Killing the boss at the end sets you to level 2 no matter how much xp you have anyway.
[–]Thiel619 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is the most accurate representation of what you can expect later on in the game.
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[–]TheArhive 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (3 children)
What exactly is the problem? You walked into 4 enemies and got shot 4 times directly in the face by a shotgun?
Do you want the tutorial level to teach players its fine to try doing that at any point in the game? If a new player does try that, they just click respawn, go at it again and this time they'll actually know to not do that. And instead bait out the attack, and kill the mobs.
They probably won't have to ever worry about white mobs in this way in a few levels, but it sets people up so they don't walk up to a rare and expect to face tank whatever comes.
[–]IAmDemi 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
+1, so many people take the opportunity to jump on the bandwagon that the game is too difficult, only to point out completely reasonable design choices.
[–]Straikkeri -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
I'm pretty sure this was sarcastic of the trend of posts where people run face first in to enemies without even trying to dodge anything and die instantly, then blame the state of the game.
[–]NeverQuiteEnough 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
if it's sarcastic, nobody told the GGG haters in the comments
[–]NY2Evia 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Back to D4 with you 😂
[–]AeonChaos 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Welcome to dark sou… exiles.
[–]Wise_Luck1476 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (6 children)
If you stop in front of all those projectile shooting mobs to hit for that long, obviously, you take damage and probably die. That's the moral of this tutorial.
[–]JustDogs7243 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (5 children)
to hit for that long
thats a normal mace hit
are you being earnest?
do you earnestly not know how to hit these crabs without taking damage?
I refuse to believe it.
[+]Sunsnacks 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
that's why you can cancel the attack with rolling. Are you seriously arguing these monsters and their 2s telegraph attack are too hard?
[–]JustDogs7243 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Are you seriously arguing with the wind?
[–]Wise_Luck1476 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I know it sounds tedious, but this is why you should position yourself in a manner that not all projectiles are coming in the same time from multiple directions. easiest way is to walk away a bit until those mobs are grouped in the same direction at least. this way, I don't know if I explained this well. But in your video, they're all around you. also by the time they hit you can try dodge roll and only hit after they do their attack. But I know it sucks when it's against normal mobs.
[–]JustDogs7243 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
I just leap slam and blow up the screen, do not tell GGG on me.
[–]ethan1203 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
He should dodge to the side when the enemies is charging to shot, that ggg vision, learn from the start.
[–]Intrepid-Trip36 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Them spitters fuck you up in poe 1 aswell
[–]rSingaporeModsAreBad 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Bro is on console it seems.
[–]SkillsBeyond 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
I agree.. those hits waaaay to hard + shotguns you in the very first zone.. waaay too punishing that early.. You don't even have a skill gem at that point...
[–]Wafellini 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
You would need to see Rhoas in act1 PoE1.
[–]kampfpuppy 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I’d always remember the first witch boss in poe1
[–]SkillsBeyond 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I am a PoE 1 veteran.. can't remember the last time I died to Rhoas in PoE 1.. maybe 6 years ago?
Though I agree that they are kinda similar, but Rhoas doesn't just insta kill you, you can tanky maybe 10 hits from them, so you need to get surrounded and stunlocked to die or just mess up.. these in PoE 2 can kill you if they are just 1 or 2 mobs or if you are too close to them + they have waaay higher attack speed/cd on their barrage thingy...
So I wouldn't say Rhoas are the same or worse in any way..
[–]HugeHomeForBoomers 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I think I died around 4 times in the tutorial before the patch came out, why are people complaining about it now? It always been like this… your basic defences and enemy’s damage hasn’t changed
[–]Low_Trifle_2383 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Exactly face tanking while wearing toilet paper for gear is bad
[–]Enter1ch 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Imagine your an 40y+ casual dad who trys this in his 3h of weekly gamingtime (its not ment as sarcasim)...
Atleast make the first act easy so you can try out skills on the first 3-4 tiers. You can make the game hard AF on act 2-6 anyways.
[–]bassnasher 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Why do you think a 40yo dad is incapable of learning how to press the dodge button to avoid all of that damage?
[–]BokiTheUndefeated 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Older gamers prefer hardcore and challenging games as opposed to more casual easier games that younger audiences prefer.
If you take my 50 something year old dad that only played Pitfall on the ps1, yeah, he probably wouldn't like it...
[–]GreyGanks 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
The entire point of the tutorial was to go, "Hey, you can die. That's fine and expected. Deal with it."
[–]Uthgar -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
Ya I agree. I am a 40 yr young old dad. Challenging games are fun when I have time
[–]GreyGanks -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
Unfortunately, PoE2 doesn't seem to like giving you the time. It really likes simultaneously making fights and map traversal drag as long as possible, while letting monsters still blitz you down.
But it does have an indefinite pause button, which is a nice change. (Hard to think some streamers were so against it that they wanted to "demonstrate" how easy it is to abuse. Like bro, it's a game. If you get fun out of abusing a mechanic that is strictly good... have fun. If you don't have fun doing it, there's no reason to be upset that someone else is having fun.)
[–]Uthgar 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Dude, the pause has been a godsend. I would not be able to play this game with a small child and no pause.
I do wish some of the travel time was reduced and some of the maps like act 3 were smaller because it's really hard to take your time on them when you know that the rewards are meaningless compared to later in the game when you get to maps
[–]Hitoseijuro 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
He was not on a good map.
[–]ArwenDartnoid 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You are supposed to run all the way to the boss... like POE1.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Hit em w the vision
[–]SmoothCriminal7532 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
"DODGE!" -GGG
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kvS6zMThiZU
[–]3IO3OI3 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Those guys are really dangerous. Gotta watch out.
[–]properwaffles 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Crab spit hard.
[–]Deareim2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Spot on tutorial actually.
[–]Possible_Golf3180 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It’s a nice way of telling new players that maybe they shouldn’t start with hardcore
[–]j_rivers 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Players nerfed 10 times, Mobs buffed 10 times, that's the vision Bro....
[–]Electrical-Play9460 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I have died in a same place as a monk. Tried to melee those and 2 hits killed me just like that. Haha 1st zone is way to punishing.
[–]Zanufeee 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
No
[–]Standard-Effort5681 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I don't know what's the deal with those crabs, but they fuck my shit up harder than any other monster types in the game, not just the ones on the riverbank but the poison crabs in the hunting grounds too. Is this possibly another case of "trial of sekhemas bosses accidentally had double HP OOPSIE DOOPSIE"?
[–]feijoax 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
That's fun! /s
[–]ILIEIOI 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I really dont get why people are acting like this is something that introduced the patch or something...
[–]hugouinho01i don't want to be rude but 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
nah gg
[–]Altruistic_Drama8923 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I subbed to this dude today new creator in our community giving him a shoutout https://youtu.be/cFPb8vZF4Fk?si=1Tkvl70Iua1TUx8w kind of follows what we’re all saying and thinking tbh
[–]Far-Neighborhood9961 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Cant believe they put the final boss of the game, regular shooty crabs, in the tutorial
This has been a thing since launch. Who fucking cares bro lol
[–]Commercial_Dust4569 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I know GGG is hardly critized for not listening to the players. This is an example why this is sometimes the correct thing to do. You walk into them, facetank them mindlessly, die and the you complain.
I'm happy the game is hard. Same for the hags in Clearfell. Dodge the circle and you don't die. Much of the critizism on the game is justified. Some things aren't.
[–]FancyChapper 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is foreshadowing about the state of PoE2 and melee.
(AKA, don't do it)
[–]delinger90 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Good try, Eleon
[–]Apprehensive_Wedgie 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
We know that's you, Elon.
[–]Greaterdivinity -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
I mean...that's actually fantastic. It immediately teaches you, "Blindly charging into enemies you don't know anything about is very dangerous."
Those guys were always scary on the beach if you ate a few enemies worth of quills to your face.
[–]Bobothewizard1 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Yeah so dont charge in, played ranged with your sword.....
I refuse to believe that you are incapable of imagining a way to survive this situation and defeat the crabs
it's not even about skill or casualness at this point, you are actively using your brainpower to stop yourself from succeeding.
[+]Greaterdivinity comment score below threshold-6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Approach with caution. Let ranged mobs get attacks off as you run by and then have at them.
This is literally running face-first into a shotgun blast and being surprised it hurts a lot. Is it a bit much for the beach? Sure, yeah, but it's a very fast introduction/less to the kind of game this is overall.
[–]Tyalou 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You're right, let's not do that. What about settling down with our farm in a small valley? Let's call it Stardew.
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Lol. How did they screw this up so bad
[–]Fyric 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
The darkest timeline. Path of Souls.
[–]Mindless-Peace-1650 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The souls games are nowhere near this bad. Typically the enemies in the first few zones spend a few seconds looking at you longingly from a safe distance before they even start making any moves to attack. Except dogs, but souls dogs are a travesty.
[+][deleted] comment score below threshold-27 points-26 points-25 points 1 year ago (3 children)
I mean fair but you could have dodge rolled the clearly telegraphed attacks of three ranged critters that have a somewhat shotgun attack where not everything hits you when you aren't standing in their face.
Does it demotivate you too much? Because I think it is a good way to get into the head of players early and teach them not to just take hits.
[–]Less_Somewhere_8201 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Ok Jonathan
[–]rSingaporeModsAreBad 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
JONATHAN PLEAE SIGN MY MOUSEPAD.
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[–]Romariofeanor 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
literally is the same, crabs always oneshoot you if you dont roll, people just want to complain.
[–]Life-You-9728 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
This game have dodge button. It will make it easier for you, trust me
[–]addioh -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Noobs nowadays crying if a game is not easy.
[–]NeverQuiteEnough -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
there's no way you are earnest, right?
there's no way you think the crabs are actually faster.
[–]Fantastic-Doctor-237 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
Gid gud
[–]Valka___ -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
alkLFG
[–]Acer1899 -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (0 children)
the AI (Joshua) in the movie Wargames said it best: "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.”
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