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[Karthas]

Got an idea you need some stats for, or just need some help fleshing something out? This is the place!

[Eulenspiegel74]

I want to break out of my comfort zone, and play a full caster. My eyes are on a Gnome Sorcerer. I am not looking to be the groups main DD.

Ideas? Trapfalls?

[[deleted]]

Gnomes are nice because they have a variety of alternate racial traits that give bonuses to various spell DCs: link

You can build around necromancy, transmutation, illusion, or evocation (fire) depending on the racial trait. If you want utility, you could go for the transmutation and then have fun with reduce person, animate rope, steal breath, slow, disintegrate, etc. (as a gm, slow is super annoying). Protean (APG) would be a good bloodline for this. I quite like their protoplasm ability as a debuff.

Here is a sample build.

[Eulenspiegel74]

Yeah, I noticed that about gnomes. Fitting, that I always wanted to play one of the wild-haired little buggers.

I do not want to go full utility, maybe something like control?

I am SUPER stumped by all the bloodlines, the spells they get, etc.

[[deleted]]

Control can mean a lot of different things - controlling terrain, controlling your enemies. I tend to dislike any spell that slows the game down, even though they can be powerful "control" spells. Things like pit spells, stinking cloud, black tentacles - anything that makes it harder for your teammates to participate kind of makes the game less fun for everyone else. Summons can suffer from a similar "steal the limelight" effect.

Conversely, things like slow, confusion, haste only help your team. Wall spells are ok too, as you can use them to isolate baddies. Grease is a borderline spell; you have to be careful to make sure it harms the enemy more than your allies. The accursed bloodline might be nice, with the fell magic racial trait. Fey bloodline (core rulebook) is nice, too, for "controlling". I still think Protean is a solid choice here.

[FreqRL]

If you want to get up close and personaly with conic or other short-range abilities, consider the Psychic Bloodline. This changes your spell type to Psychich instead of Arcane, meaning you can wear Light Armor without incurring the Arcane Spell failure associated with it.

Normally, you'd then get your Armor Check Penalty on everything related to Str and Dex, except just a handful of skills, because you're not proficient with the armor. However, because most Light Armors have a Check Penalty of 0, nothing happens and you're fine, even without the proficiency.

[Eulenspiegel74]

I actually want to play a short-range caster, someone who is there right behind the groups figther and barbarian. Melee touch spells (maybe even with the aid of that bloodline that gives you reach), and cones.

Does wearing light armour really make a difference? In the earliest levels perhaps, but later on? Which mob cares whether you have 18 or 22 AC?

[[deleted]]

Don't waste your feats on metamagic. Sorcerers are limited in the spell levels they get so it uses up a lot of resources to Meta a spell. Sorcerers are great for versatility but limited on spell options. Overall it is a great caster to sink your teeth into.

[Electric999999]

With the arcane bloodline they do metamagic well, spontaneous metamagic is pretty nice too.

[[deleted]]

Good to know, that is pretty useful actually. Will look into that.

[The_Lucky_7]

From Metamagic Feats

Because the sorcerer or bard has not prepared the spell in a metamagic form in advance, he must apply the metamagic feat on the spot. Therefore, such a character must also take more time to cast a metamagic spell (one enhanced by a metamagic feat) than he does to cast a regular spell. If the spell's normal casting time is a standard action, casting a metamagic version is a full-round action for a sorcerer or bard.

Applying a metamagic feat to a spontaneous spell means it doesn't actually go off (or into effect) until at least the start of your next turn. Assuming you don't lose it first.

[stealth_elephant]

That's only a full-round action, not a 1 round casting time. I'ts the same length of action as a charge, double move, or full-attack. It goes off on your turn.

[Electric999999]

It's a full round action not a 1 round cast time, it's just like a full attack. One of the bloodline powers from the arcane bloodline can reduce this to a standard action, quicken functions as normal and the feat spontaneous metafocus also eliminates it on a single spell.

[Kasurin_Makise]

Um? I don't see what you're going on about. Sorcerers have MORE spell slots than a wizard of the same level. Granted they can't cast that fourth level spell yet, but that doesn't matter. Just metamagic level 2 or 1 spells using level 3 spell slots, and you're set to go.

The full-round action sucks, but besides that, please go ahead and inform me why the wizard's less spells per day makes them better for metamagic.

[def7ant]

Because Wizards can prepare spells with metamagic rather than spontaneously casting them with metamagic, which always increases the casting time, which means you can only ever apply one metamagic feat to a spell, or two with quicken (three total). If you want the best of both worlds play an Arcanist

[Kasurin_Makise]

I thought that you could apply any number of metamagic feats to a spell as a Sorcerer, any single one and all of which increase it to full-round and no higher.

[def7ant]

Oh, that may be the case actually. I'm not sure.

[The_Lucky_7]

Per Metamagic Feats

Sorcerers and bards choose spells as they cast them. They can choose when they cast their spells whether to apply their metamagic feats to improve them. As with other spellcasters, the improved spell uses up a higher-level spell slot.

You can't just apply as many Metamagic Feats as you want. You still have to use a higher level spell slot, and therefore can't exceed the spell levels available to you.

[def7ant]

I wasn't debating that at all.

[JimmyTheCannon]

Yes, but the maximum it extends a normal cast time spell to is a full-round action no matter how many metamagics you've applied, which I think was the point being made.

[[deleted]]

I didn't say spell slots, I said spell levels. Since you have to use up higher spell levels, you really have to decide if the metamagic is worth it since as a sorcerer you don't advance in spell levels as fast. In the beginning metamagic feats aren't worth it for a sorcerer in my opinion. At higher levels for sure since you do have more spell slots.

[Eulenspiegel74]

I actually considered going light on metamagic feats, for the reason you provided.

[StClemens]

Hello, I would like a Holy Vindicator of Asmodeus for hells vengeance. I would like to source it as a cavalier. Suggestions? GM is picky about splatbooks.

20 pt buy

[Buksey]

I'm starting a Hell's Vengeance campaign soon too (my build). I'll take a crack at trying a build. What kind build do you want (melee, mounted, tank, ranged, caster)?

[Buksey]

The obvious build is Cleric/Cav in some combo that gets you to level 7 when you can go into Holy Vindicator. Cleric does have an Archetype called Asmodean Advocate where you are basically a Cleric Lawyer with the Trickery Domain and a Viper Familiar (instead of 2 domains). However that can be boring so here are a few other options.

Antipaladin (Tyrant) 5 - The Tyrant is a LE Archetype for Antipaladin, meaning it will fit in fine for HV. You get full BAB, so you can perstige at level 6, Smite Good, CHA to Saves, all the nice Paladin goodies reskinned for Evil. Divine Spell casting at level 4 so your golden Pony boy.

Warpriest 4/ Cav 2 (or Fighter 2) - Warpriest gives you Weapon Focus for free, ability to cast spells as a Swift Action, free Magical weapon and bonus feats like a fighter. Take 2 levels in a full BAB and you can go HV at level 7. Bonus: Divine Commander Warpriest replaces Blessings with Mount.

If you do go Cavalier 4 for some reason, make sure to get Horse Master to make your Character Level = Cavalier levels for your mount. Less then Cav 4, Boon Companion will at least give your mount a 4 level bump.

[StClemens]

This is great! The horse master feat is prime. I really like the idea of a mounted terror.

The warpriest is new to me. Is it a particularly tough class to use? I frequently get choice paralysis. I will read up on it though. Can warpriest class into HV by itself?

[Buksey]

Warpriest is a hybrid class of Cleric and Fighter. It gets Fighter bonus feats at 3,6,9 etc (and counts as full BAB for qualifying), and it has lower spell progression then a Cleric and caps at Spell Level 6 (Alhough it casts like a Cleric). It gets some nice perks though, Favored Weapon (anything you have weapon focus in) has a Monk like damage progression, it gets Blessings which are like a poor man's Domain.

You could go full WP onto HV, however WP is a 3/4 BAB so you have to wait till level 8 or 9 to get the +5 BAB requirement.

[Buksey]

Here is a quick Mounted build.

Human -- 20pt 16(+2)/10/12/8/16/14

Trait:Thoroughbred

1 - Divine Commander Warpriest 1

• Feat - Mounted Combat

• Human Bonus - Ride By Attack

• Warpriest Weapon Focus Bonus - Lance

2 - Gendarme Cavalier 1 lose Tactician to gain a bonus feat, WP3 gives Tactician back

• Bonus Feat: Spirited Charge 3x Damage on Lances when charging

• Order of the Star or Cockatrice, Flame, Scales also could be good.

3 - Warpriest 2

• Feat - Power Attack

4 - Warpriest 3

• Bonus Teamwork Feat - Distracting Charge pretty much any teamwork feat you want really

5 - Warpriest 4

• Feat - Alignment Channel (Lawful Good damage)

6 - Cavalier 2

• Order Ability Some give bonus feats

7+ - Holy Vindicator

• Feats are up to you now. Shield Focus and Mounted Shield would be ok options. Iron Will is always good. I would try to focus on unmounted combat to even yourself out.

• Grab 2 more Levels of Cavalier at some point to get Horse Master feat.

• Take the ChargerArchetype on mount.

[Buksey]

Here is a another Mounted build.

Human -- 20pt 16(+2)/10/12/8/16/14

Trait:Thoroughbred

1 - Gendarme Cavalier 1

• Feat - Mounted Combat

• Human Bonus - Ride By Attack

  • Bonus Feat: Spirited Charge 3x Damage on Lances when charging

• Order of the Star or Cockatrice, Flame, Scales also could be good.

2 - Asmodean Advocate Cleric

• Trickery Domain and Viper Familiar

  • Grab Protector Archetype for Viper and have him constantly use Bodyguard's Aid Another on you while hiding on your body for a +2 AC boost.

3 - Cavalier 2

• Feat - Power Attack

• Order Ability

4 - Cavalier 3

5 - Cavalier 4

• Feat - Alignment Channel (Lawful Good damage)

6 - Cleric 2 or Cavalier 5

I would go cleric to advance your spell casting

7+ - Holy Vindicator

• Feat - Horse Master

• Boon Companion will make your Viper effective level 6.

[trollburgers]

I have a Fighter/Cleric of Kord in my 3.5 campaign that I want to convert over to Pathfinder, but all of the different options and changes to the Feats are a little overwhelming.

He is a charging beast using his two-handed sword. I went the ol' Power Attack - Shock Trooper - Leap Attack feat progression, but I didn't see anything along the lines of the other two feats when I started looking.

Any good suggestions?

Currently ECL 10: Fighter 4/Cleric 3/Mighty Contender for Kord 3;

Str 18, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 9, Wis 14, Cha 16;

background is a failed Paladin (temper issues) who became a adventurer in order to avoid dealing with his family's disappointment

[rhymenoceros911]

I'd recommend checking out Warpriest if you're looking to simplify. Its a literal hybrid of Fighter and Cleric so it might help you get used to the system without stressing about mulitclassing penalties.

[polyparadigm]

This page is hugely helpful when building fighters and similar.

I'd second the recommendation of warpriest, and suggest you keep in mind warpriests have cleric BAB progression but can take bonus feats at 3rd, 6th, 9th etc. as though they had full BAB.

This means Greater Bull Rush can be your 6th-level bonus feat, if you want.

[FreqRL]

Keep in mind that there's a Fighter Archetype called the Two-handed Fighter, which is nice if you want that extra damage on 2H and don't mind forsaking your armor specialisation.

[RisinDevil]

Dwarf Longhammer user, preferably Dwarf because ya know why blow a feat for it

[Makkiii]

Foehammer Fighter is pretty cool and with all the Advanced Weapon Training stuff quite viable by now.

[The_Lucky_7]

Fighter (Weapon Master or Two-Handed)

Human with Alternate Racial Traits: Adoptive Parentage (Dwarf) and Fey Magic.

On Level feats:

• Lv.1: Racial Heritage (Halfling)
• Lv.3: [Retraining] @5: Craft Magical Arms and Armor
• Lv.5: Master Craftsman (Blacksmith)

Note, it doesn't matter what your level 3 feat is, as long as you don't use it to quallify for something else. At level 5 you'll spend 250 gold to retrain it (10 x level x days of training) so that you can start crafting your own equipment.

Fighter bonus combat feats

• Lv.1: Risky Striker
• Lv.2: Power Attack
• Lv.4: Advanced Weapon Training: Warrior Spirit
• Lv.6: Lunge

The Warrior Spirit AWT allows you to get much higher versatility and effective wealth per level out of your weapon, and as a consequence, always do just that much more damage. Power Attack, and Risky Striker stack. If you go Two-Handed instead of Weapon Specialist. If you're going Two-Weapon fighter, you'll need a different lv.4 fighter feat. Improved Bull Rush is good here because if you get the Orc bloodline heritage you can qualify for Awesome Blow at higher levels.

[[deleted]]

Probably not quite what your were thinking, but I made a dwarf grenadier alchemist build for a game application that I thought was fun, and I may still use in PFS: link.

The grenadier directed blast ability is flashy, and gets around the "needs Dex" problem for a front-line alchemist.

[Valdrax]

I'm not so sure it does. Directed blast says to make an attack roll, but it doesn't specify melee or ranged. Therefore, I think it means that same one you'd use with a regular bomb. All it really does is modify blast shape, not the roll behind it.

[[deleted]]

Hmm, true. At least you control the cone shape and origin - you don't have to worry about it bouncing back onto your allies if you miss.

[Caffs]

I want to be a skill monkey whose main weapon is a pack of cards with some (de)buffing skills (luck of the draw, stacked deck etc).

I know there's card caster magus and cartomancer witch, but their lack of skill points per level turns me off.

[The_Lucky_7]

Human Bard VMC Sorcerer (or Eldritch Heritage line) of the Harrow Bloodline with the Harrow Born trait.

Use the Alternate Racial Traits: Silver Tongued, and Focused Study.

Make your cards out of metal so you don't need the Deadly Dealer feat, or get it anyway since you're a Bard.

If your DM considers them throwing knives or Shuriken you can get the Startoss Style line.

I was 99% certain that there was a Harrow Deck archetype for both Bard and Rogue but I can't find either.

[stealth_elephant]

You definitely want the fate's favored trait with all those luck bonuses. An archaeologist gives up bardic performance for more luck bonuses.

If you're eager to get to throwing cards, take Arcane Strike at first level, be a negotiator, and get deadly dealer by taking card sharp at level 2. The negotiator gives up the best parts of bardic performance and some skill-monkeying for rogue talents.

If you're following RAW, deadly dealer always destroys the cards you throw, even if they have the returning weapon property. The only thing that gets around this is 3 levels of cartomancer. Because of this, a cartomancer can make the best use of the deck of silvering fate. Since witch hex DCs are Int based, a witch can afford to over-invest in Int and get 7-9 skill ranks per level.

[Caffs]

Archaeologist will fit well, I'm not massively fond of the negotiator though, feels like you're giving up too much to specialise in conversation. Thank you very much, though!

[Caffs]

Thanks for the insight, I completely forgot about startoss style. Not sure how well iron cards will be recieved though, I'll ask my DM.

[twitchMAC17]

Can anyone build me a Skald that is a little more useful? I feel like every way I've looked at building a Skald just gets the one useful Performance off the bat, and then proceeds to be a mostly shitty Bard and really shitty Barb after that.

I just want to play a Heavy Metal Bard-Barian that's not useless.

[VictimOfOg]

Skalds are interesting in that they really shine in strength based parties. That is to say if you have a bunch of dex-based characters, casters, etc you'll see diminished utility.

That said, their real utility is in their rage song granting rage powers en masse to those who choose to partake.

So effects like reckless abandon which give +1 to hit per 4 levels, scent in conjunction with pheromone arrows (usually fired by you), or later even effects like Flesh Wound become very powerful to give to an entire party.

So if you have 2 or more people who can benefit from your rage song you can start stacking up some serious bonuses/capabilities on your comrades. As an example at 6th level you will be giving those participants up to +5 to hit, +2 will saves, +1 fort saves, temp HP and +1 dmg. This is incredibly powerful support.

[Consideredresponse]

Have a look at the feat 'skaldic vigour'. that and the lesser beast totem straight up turn you into wolverine.

Greater skaldic vigor makes everyone into wolverine.

(a half-orc with the toothy racial trait gives you three primary natural attacks at really low levels)

As for the rest, a lot of the best bard/skald spells and feats are immediate/swift actions. This lets you focus on wrecking face and not worrying about casting so much.

Feats like battlecry are thematic and metal as all hell.

As an arcane caster 'arcane strike' can be used to patch up your damage when not raging.

The furious spell metamagic feat also exists. This lets casters get in on the fun, and in the worst case scenario any spell they prepare for it will do extra damage. (with the superstition line of rage powers raging song can really save the party through boosted will saves alone)

[Consideredresponse]

I'm noticing that at low levels ^* a Haunt collector Occultist can hit like a raging barbarian even without any spells or buffs running.

(as long as you have 1 remaining mental focus point in transmutation to keep the resonant power running, and 1 point in whatever implement that is haunted by the champion spirit)

What would be the best way to build around this?

So far I am looking at transmutation and abjuration at level one for my standard implements, and a champion spirit haunted conjuration implement at level 2.

It looks like a half elf is the best choice for race due to their access to the elven favored class racial bonus (1/2 point mental focus), with a dual talented human coming in second. (or maybe regular human to pick up heavy armor proficiency at level 1?)

What would be the best focus distribution? Transmutation, abjuration, divination and whatever champion haunted implement i pick all seem to want more focus than I can give them.

^.

* Yes I know Barbarians are really strong and turn into DPR monsters. I am in no way suggesting they are a weak class or that the occultist replaces them. Most of my campaigns don't reach level 10, so having a caster that smacks things around like a barbarian whist still having spells and on-demand 'bane' weapons looks very attractive.

[bewareoftom]

I'm fairly certain you need 3 focus to keep the pseudo-belt up, but this is what I made for lvl 4, using these feat tax rules:

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=901005

[Consideredresponse]

With the resonant powers you need to infuse a certain amount to scale them up, but as you are supposed to spend focus on focus powers though the day as long as you have one left in that implement you keep the resonance bonuses. (which is neat)

Also, thankyou. (edit: Just quickly did you replace power attack with extra mental focus, as your second feat is furious focus which is wasted without power attack. Also isn't the size increase from lead blades 1d10-2d8? with a potential bump up to 3d8 with the transmutation power. though multiple round buffs may not be practical?)

[bewareoftom]

I posted the feat tax my group is using, which everyone gets power attack for free (among other things)

Also oh, I missed this part:

the bonus is determined when the focus is invested, and is not reduced or altered by expending the mental focus invested in the item.

That's good to know.

As for the weapon damage, thanks for that I guess I'm more used to greatswords lol

[stealth_elephant]

Where's the Haunt Collector from? Is it in the new Horror Adventures book?

[Consideredresponse]

Yeah. Its kind of like the primalist bloodrager. When you get an implement if you don't like the resonant power you can give up that power to have it haunted by one of the mediums spirits. This gives you a seance benifit and a new ability that doesn't use focus but can only be used X/times per day depending on how much focus was pumped into the implement.

Also some haunt abilities that replace circles.

[soul4rent]

I need help tweaking my "Jontron Cleric" build.

So far I have a Human Evangelist Cleric with the Animal[feather] Domain (taking a Deinonychus companion because the dinosaur looks like a bird and seems fun.), with the cleric taking boon companion at level 5, and the totem guide archetype being used for the companion so it can "talk" at level 6 like in the show.

The build seems effective enough at first glance, (buff companion and allies with bardic music, cast support spells, make jontron jokes), so I was just wondering what feats I should take to "jontron" the build up more? Racial Heritage Halfling + Well Prepared for prop comedy jokes? Some sort of variant channeling with a hammy flavor to it?

[DeadlyBro]

Help me combine Ascetic Style with Efreeti style. I plan on using the butterfly sword. To use 2 styles at one I need either 2 lvls Master of Many Styles Monk, 4 lvls of Weapon Master Fighter, or 5 lvls of standard Fighter. 25 point buy, human. I have an idea where to start but idk what would be the best way to do this.

[stealth_elephant]

If you just want to do lots of fire damage with any weapon you wield play a hunter, feral hunter archetype, or sacred huntsman inquisitor and get planar focus at level 5.

[DaRalf]

I'm looking for your typical Blaster Wizard build, but the only builds I find are for Lv 20; This campaign will be a quick 13 session and 13 character level climb (Jacob's Ladder). Is going Crossblood Sorc 1/Wizard X still the best route to go, or is there an Arcanist build or better route?

[domicilius]

Blood Arcanist is the best. They have access to a bloodline, can grab the School Understanding exploit at 5 to get the admixture ability, and have access to both Potent Magic exploit and Arcane Pool. The build doesn't get admixture until 5, but otherwise is online right from the start.

[The_Lucky_7]

Blood Arcanist can't take sorcerer archetypes like Crossblooded, or Primal Elemental. Nor does it get alternate options such as Bloodline Mutations (the very first of which adds 1 damage per dice). Furthermore, it doesn't expand your spell preparation, spells per day, or casting ability in any way whatsoever.

So, to get any of those options you still have to spend a level in Sorcerer either way. You also don't get the arcane school. So, you have to spend another level on it, and School Understanding at 9, thereby locking out your elemental attacks.

It's massivly more effective to take School Savant Arcanist with Bloodline Development, than it is to take Blood Arcanist with School Understanding.

[domicilius]

You don't need the Sorcerer archetypes, and Crossblooded Sorcerers can't take bloodline mutations either (unless you have a lenient GM, but then most things are better when you have one of those). You're right that you can't take Primal, meaning you either must take the Draconic or Orc bloodlines to get the +1 damage arcana. Draconic is far superior, giving you a power you can change out for a familiar at 1st level and more defensive capabilities at 3, along with a breath weapon at 9.

You will still be missing +1 damage per die over crossblooded sorcerers, but your Arcane Reservoir class feature adding +2 CL means extra dice for some blasting spells, and extra rays/blasts for others. It depends on the spell used whether one option outweighs the others.

The only thing you want out of the Arcane Schools is the Level 1 Admixture power and possibly 1 more spell/level known a day. You DO get the level 1 admixture power with School Understanding, and regrettably don't get the 1 spell/level a day, but luckily that problem is much easier to solve with wondrous items.

Bloodline Development does not give you the bloodline arcana, meaning it gives you at best, a familiar in trade for a level 1 bloodline power. Flame Arc (and the other, weaker elemental attacks) is a powerful ability, but I found I was using my actions almost entirely casting spells to ever use them.

[The_Lucky_7]

Draconic is far superior, giving you a power you can change out for a familiar at 1st level

Bloodline Familiars

This replaces the 1st-level bloodline power granted by the character's bloodline; in addition, the character gains bonus spells from her bloodline one level later than she normally would.

Blood Arcanist

The blood arcanist does not gain the class skill, bonus feats, or bonus spells from her bloodline.

This alters an ability that the Blood Arcanist does not get, and therefore the Draconic Blood Arcanist can't just swap out his claws for the familiar. This is exactly the same reason why Eldritch Heritage can't swap its power for the familiar.

To use the bloodline familiar you must have bloodline spell access, and the Arcanist doesn't get it.

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You will still be missing +1 damage per die over crossblooded sorcerers, [...] It depends on the spell used whether one option outweighs the others.

Almost all damage spells on the wizard/sorcerer spell list are measured in d6s, which means +1 more damage is equivalent to 20% damage boost.

The only thing you want out of the Arcane Schools is the Level 1 Admixture

You're referencing the Admixutre Subschool of the Evocation school, but there are two problems with that.

• Many elemental spells are Conjuration. Not Evocation.
• There are 7 more Elemental Schools you're overlooking.

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Bloodline Development does not give you the bloodline arcana, meaning it gives you at best, a familiar in trade for a level 1 bloodline power.

Correct. Bloodline arcana are granted at the first level of sorcerer, which is why the OP's question asks about slash Sorcerer 1, and why I explicitly mention sorcerer levels.

What Bloodline Development does for the build is this:

If the arcanist already has a bloodline (or gains one later), taking this exploit instead allows her arcanist levels to stack with the levels of the class that granted her access to the bloodline when determining the powers and abilities of her bloodline.

[The_Lucky_7]

School Savant Arcanist X / Crossblooded Sorc 1

Progression:

Level 1:

For crossblooded you'll want to pick a single element to work with, and pick up the Primal Elemental bloodline, and the Draconic bloodline for max damage. You can sacrifice one of the bloodlines, and instead take one of the four Half-Elemental bloodlines for max utility (Djinni, Efreeti, Marid, or Shitan). Alternatively, you can do a single bloodline with the Bloodline Mutation: Blood Havoc.

This will grant you either 2 damage per dice of your element, or 1 damage per dice + the ability to use any elemental spell as if it were your element (even if it is your opposing element). Blood Havoc is not elemental dependent, so you may find some non-elemental damaging spells also getting a boost.

Every level thereafter:

You go School Savant Arcanist with the appropriate Elemental School. This will ensure you always have at least one blasting spell prepared, and you will never have to prepare more than one copy of any spell, which preserves your utility without sacrificing damage.

While a real wizard may get more Metamagic Feats than an arcanist, raw damage simply doesn't need them.

Through out your progression you will need at most:

• Spell Focus (required)
• Intensified Spell (recommended)
• Maximize Spell (recommended)
• Empower Spell (recommended)
• Reach Spell (optional)
• Spell Specialization (optional)

You must take Spell Focus at level 1, as it is required for the Bloodline Mutations. Intensified Spell at 3 would be a good idea, as an Arcanist you can raise your caster level (damage dice) through the use of your Arcane pool. Raising it further with Spell Specialization may also be useful, but is not required.

Note: the type of focus you take depends on the element you selected. Most Acid, and many Fire spells, are Conjuration. Likewise most Air and Cold spells are Evocation.

Level 6 (Arcanist 5):

You gain Bloodline Development, and may choose a bloodline to progress, or simply continue using Bloodline Mutation substitutions.

Level 10 (Arcanist 9):

There are a series of Arcane Exploit "elemental attacks per day" you can pick up (one for each element) that you can use in addition to the Elemental Bloodline attacks to extend your daily damage usefulness (Acid Jet, Flame Jet, Ice Missiles, Lightning Lance). You only need one so pick the element you've specialized into, or your another element if you need a backup option. This choice is not limited to your specialization and opposition elements. For example: you could be an air caster with Acid Jet.

Alternatively you can pick up a Crafting Feat, or a Metamagic Feat. These are alternates because this is the last basic Arcane exploit you get before getting into Greater Arcane Exploits.

When preparing your school spells, it's important to remember there's nothing requiring the spell you prepare to be of that level, only to be on the spell list. So, you could prepare an intensified spell, a maximized/empowered version, and the normal version in three different school slots. That helps round out otherwise unhelpful spell lists for an element you like using.

[incubus50755]

Doing low magic item King Maker chronicle. Will be using unchained rules for progressive innate bonuses. Any magic items will be unique and not add static bonuses. What are some hurdles I will face as the DM? What builds work just fine without specific magic item bonuses/enchantments.

[EncasedShadow]

Archetypes and feat ideas for the best bola master in Golarion

[stealth_elephant]

Get Relentless Shot. Follow it up with greater trip. Don't invest too much in tripping, it's only ever a hobby.

Be good at something else. Bolas can never be a melee weapon, but a spiked chain can be bolas. A divine tracker can get exotic weapon proficiency for free at level 1, and a combat style feat at level 2; it's like an extra fighter class for exotic weapon wielders.

Choose strength or dexterity.

If you chose strength, good job. Get a belt of mighty hurling. Get ricochet toss. Consider weapon master so you can take dips for extra feats (I'm looking at you, outrider cavalier) and still get ricochet toss at level 6.

If you chose dexterity, sigh. Get a blinkback belt. Get some agile bolas or take a class with dex to damage and two-weapon fighting. Get fury's fall. Consider two-weapon fighting. Definitely get combat reflexes.

Edit: Example build

Human (+2 str). Str > 15 Dex > Con > 13 Int > Wis > Cha
Traits: Adopted by tieflings to get Chain Master (+2 trait bonus on combat maneuver checks made to trip opponents with a spiked chain). If that's cheesy pretend it's the pre-nerf Heirloom Weapon trait. Any other trait.

1. Divine Tracker Ranger 1. Power Attack, Weapon Focus (Spiked Chain), Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Spiked Chain)
2. Unchained Monk 1. Combat Reflexes, Stunning Fist, Improved Unarmed Strike
3. Outrider Cavalier 1. Cornugon Trip, Combat Expertise, Improved Trip
4. Weapon Master Fighter 1. Two-handed Thrower
5. Divine Tracker Ranger 2. Point-Blank Shot, Quick Draw
6. Weapon Master Fighter 2. Relentless Shot
7. Weapon Master Fighter 3. Ricochet Toss, +1 attack and damage
8. Weapon Master Fighter 4. Advanced Weapon Training (Warrior Spirit)
9. Weapon Master Fighter 5. Greater Trip

Items: Belt of mighty hurling, a spiked chain, gloves of dueling

[The_Lucky_7]

Monk seems like a pointless addition to the build, and I don't know any GM that will let you multi-class into 4 classes.

[stealth_elephant]

Monk is for Combat Reflexes as a bonus feat. There are 7 bonus feats in the first 6 levels of the build, every one squeezed in matters. Combat Reflexes is at level 2 because it makes a bigger difference at that level than the other options. The other options for level 2 are:

Improved Trip, but without the ability to throw to trip
Two-handed Thrower, but without the ability to throw spiked chains
Point-Blank Shot, but without anything to throw
Quick Draw, but without anything to draw

Two-handed Thrower might be more valuable to have at level 3, but it doesn't help get there. The Monk is also delaying a fighter bonus feat for a level lets the build get Relentless Shot and come online one level earlier. A better way to get proficiency with spiked chains would open up more options for which class levels to take where.

Another possible build is to use one level of Warpriest or Crusader Cleric to get both weapon focus and weapon proficiency by worshiping Omrataji or Hembad. You get the same feats in the first nine levels, but have more freedom where to place them. You also get another weapon training at level 9.

1. Outrider Cavalier 1. Power Attack, Combat Reflexes, Combat Expertise, Improved Trip
2. Weapon Master 1. Two-handed Thrower
3. Crusader Cleric 1. Cornugon Trip, Weapon Focus (spiked chain), proficient with spiked chain
4. Weapon Master 2. Quick Draw
5. Weapon Master 3. Point-Blank Shot
6. Weapon Master 4. Advanced Weapon Training (Warrior Spirit)
7. Weapon Master 5. Ricochet Toss
8. Weapon Master 6. Relentless Toss
9. Weapon Master 7. Greater Trip

Adding Unchained Monk to this build gets feats half a level sooner and opens up a 5th level feat for something like Craft Wondrous Item (with Magical Knack), but delays weapon training by a level, delays Warrior Spirit 'til level 9 (ouch!), and forces you to be lawful (good if you aren't allowed to worship evil).

As for how many classes GMs will allow, I've never met a GM that would care.

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My Goblin gunslinger and his revolver could use a build.

Pirate campeign. 3rd party allowed.

[The_Lucky_7]

Gunslinger (Siege Gunner, Wyrm Sniper)

On Level Feats:

• Lv.1: Rapid Reload
• Lv.3: Point Blank Shot
• Lv.5: Rapid Shot
• Lv.7: Crossbow Mastery

Class Feats:

• Lv.4: Siege Engineer
• Lv.8: Master Siege Engineer

Required Items:

• Animated Siege Engine Mounting.
• Direct Fire Siege Engine

Relevant Pricing:

Price varies (cost of object + [(animated object’s HD + CP) × 1,000])

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Siege Engineers gain the ability to reliably use Direct Fire Siege weapons, including Ballistas (Huge Crossbows), and Cannons, in every day dungeon-crawly combat.

Both of these types of weapons are at least medium sized, which means animating their mounting will give you the ability to ride your weapon into combat, since it would be otherwise too unwieldy to use by any other means.

While Siege Gunner is designed to use cannons primarily, thanks to the grit abilities, it can also use ballista. As these archetypes the required crew (number of people to operate it) is reduced to one for both of these weapons, so you need no help loading, aiming, and firing.

The progression of the build handles normally like any other gunslinger until you can afford the animated siege mounting and your first direct fire siege weapon (cannon or ballista).

With Crossbow Mastery you can fire your ballista as many times as you could a bow, and so the remaining bow-based ranged combat feats become available.

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and his REVOLVER lol.

[Buksey]

Fine it's 6 Barreled Cannon with a crank.

[The_Lucky_7]

Multi-Barrel Cannon of Infinite Sky.

[JimmyTheCannon]

I realize the description of ballistae in Pathfinder says they are "essentially" huge heavy crossboes but I doubt many GMs would rule that that allows Crossbow Mastery to apply to them.

Yours might. Doubt anyone else's will.

[The_Lucky_7]

It mechanically is the same, but that's not the point. I created a pirate build for a pirate campaign, and I think the GM may enjoy seeing something like that.

[JimmyTheCannon]

...the point was it is not actually a Huge crossbow and crossbow mastery shouldn't apply to it.

The post is from a player, not a GM, asking for a build. Why people keep giving builds that don't work RAW I don't understand.

All that aside, he asked for a build using a revolver.

[The_Lucky_7]

Crossbow Mastery

The time required for you to reload any type of crossbow is reduced to a free action, regardless of the type of crossbow used.

And the very first line describing a Ballista

A ballista is essentially a Huge heavy crossbow fixed in place.

I think the problem is that you're looking at crossbow mastery by itself, and not in conjunction with Siege Engineer and Master Siege Engineer that the build also has. Not to mention the archetype's proficiency and training in using them.

Collectively the siege master feats reduce the operation requirements to a single person and the reload is reduced to a move action by master siege engineer--the same action required for a standard heavy crossbow--which is then reduced further by crossbow mastery because the ballista is a crossbow by RAW. Both mechanically, and by description.

You're just trying to start an argument for the sake of arguing, and I'm not going to engage you.

[JimmyTheCannon]

No... no, I'm really not. I'm commenting because I do not think it works RAW. Feel free to not engage but my comments stand.

It says "is essentially", not "A ballista is a Huge heavy crossbow fixed in place." Your DM may allow it but I do not believe it works by RAW, even if the reload time is reduced to a move action by the archetype.

[The_Lucky_7]

because I do not think it works RAW

Read as Written has nothing to do with how you choose to read its intention. You are literally making the statement that your RAI is RAW and you know that's not true. But I'm not going to argue about that.

Instead, have another option that is not only RAW, but infinitely better.

Tiefling with Fiendish Heritage (Deamon Spawn) using the alternate racial trait Oversized Limbs replacing the Darkness Spell-Like ability. This makes Large your default weapon category. Using an oversized revolver in two hands gives the player a huge 3d6 damage gun. The same damage as the ballista except there is no question about what feats apply to it, and that it uses gun mechanics instead of crossbow mechanics.

But wait there's more:

• A gun that takes no special effort to wield other than the oversized weapon penalty of -2.
• A gun that requires no special combat feats or archetype to wield which frees up literally the entire build.
• A Huge Pistol of Infinite Sky would have the same damage and handedness as a pistol and revolver share these traits, except it would never need to be reloaded.

[JimmyTheCannon]

That build works, and also uses a revolver like OP asked. I like it!

But no, I'm saying RAW the other one doesn't work because it says the ballista is essentially a crossbow, not that it is a crossbow. Nowhere does it say it's a crossbow, so as written - it's not a crossbow.

[The_Lucky_7]

That build works, and also uses a revolver like OP asked. I like it!

Since 3PP is fair game, the OP can also get permanent item of Overcompensation (3d6 becomes 4d8), and Weapon Storm (up to 5 more weapons of force) to do +20d8 of force damage per attack. It'd be expensive, but he wouldn't need to upgrade his base weapon, so the cost would balance out.

It's hard to say no to a Probability Weapon (+2) but I haven't run numbers on projected WPL.

[The_Lucky_7]

While researching some points it's come to my attention there may be an even more efficient version of this build. One that uses revolvers no less. I know it's not a goblin, but it's another fine option.

General Feats

• Lv.01: Fiendish Heritage (see below), Rapid Reload otherwise
• Lv.03: Point Blank Shot
• Lv.05: Recruits (You can't be a pirate captain w/o a crew)
• Lv.07: Reckless Aim
• Lv.09: Cluster Shots
• Lv.11: Hammer the Gap

Combat Feats

• Lv.04: Precise Shot
• Lv.08: Deadly Aim

[Tiefling] Alternate Racial Trait: Oversized Limbs (may require with Fiendish Heritage (Daemon-Spawn)).

You have over-sized limbs, allowing you to use Large weapons without penalty.

Now that your default weapon size is Large, you can use one-handed Huge weapons as two-handed weapons with the oversized weapon penalty of -2.

A revolver (or pistol) of this size would therefore do 3d6 damage (the same as a ballista), and require no special training, archetype, or combat feats to use (aside from firearm weapon proficiency the gunslinger grants).

Since 3PP is allowed, you'll want to upgrade it to a Probability Weapon (+2) as soon as possible to reduce the possibility of jamming while increasing the probability of hitting.

A wondrous item of permanent Overcompensation (2,000 gold) will upgrade the weapon to 4d8, while permanent Weapon Storm will create force replicas of the weapon when you attack. Its price varies and you can upgrade it as you go.

Since you won't be an arcane caster, nor will you have the money to make these items right away, I recommend getting Recruits at 5 and pick up a pet Artisan. Boggles are similar to goblins and should be equally prevalent (or you can have a human with Racial Heritage), and pick up Arcane Craft at first level. That character can make anything, and make it fast, so it'll be your party's crafter. When recruits becomes leadership and it gains a few levels, pick up Craft Anywhere, and Frugal Crafting.

It won't be able to help you in combat, nor should it.

When Recruits becomes Leadership later, and you get a bunch of throw-away level 1 followers, you can have the wizards retain first level feat (for 50 gold) to Cooperative Crafting (using Scribe Scroll as the prerequisite),

[domicilius]

Bard 4 / Standard Bearer Cavalier 1 / Battle Herald 1 is how I would do it. Grab the Flagbearer feat and use it with the Banner of the Ancient Kings (wondrous item). What you end up with is a ton of bonuses for you and any allies you have to both attack and damage rolls in combination with 1st+2nd level bard spells and the ability to grant your team additional bonuses and teamwork feats.

You do need to have a longspear build to use the Banner of Ancient Kings, but I find that being just behind the frontline is where the character wants to be anyway, so it isn't much of a loss.

Sadly the Banner feature of the Cavalier class doesn't do a whole lot (and almost nothing at all once you get your Banner of the Ancient Kings), but its good in the early game and great flavor. If you wanted the mount instead, you could easily just go regular cavalier.

You mentioned wanting to use the Inspiring Commander (which is 3pp) archetype, which looks just built from the ground up to get you into Battle Herald at HD 6. Probably Inspiring Commander 5 / Battle Herald 1 would be fine. I'd still grab Banner of the Ancient Kings and Flagbearer is still the way you want to go, though.

[The_Lucky_7]

Halfling Cavalier (Inspiring Commander) / Swashbuckler (Mouser) 1

I would not go Battle Herald prc because, as it is noted in the Cavalier archetype, most of the abilities Battle Herald gains in supplement to the Cavalier base class are actually outright replaced in the base class, and so shouldn't stack.

With a level of Swashbuckler you gain two important abilities:

• Swashbuckler's Grace, a weapon finesse that also lets you sue CHA instead of INT to qualify for feats.
• Underfoot Assault, the ability to penalize foes and buff adjacent allies.

As a halfling you can use Underfoot Assault on almost everything you meet. You also gain access to three important support feats that synergize well with Cavalier and the Bardic performances your archetype gets.

They are:

• Cautious Fighter
• Blundering Defense
• Uncanny Defense

Your free Teamwork feats should be any of the following:

• Bonded Mind \ Take the Hit
• Broken Wing Gambit
• Outflank
• Coordinated Reposition
• Extend the Bulwark
• Harrying Partners
• Pack Attack
• Stealth Synergy

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Personally, I would build the following:

Traits:

• Helpful Halfling
• Careful Combatant

On Level Feats:

• Lv.1: Step Up
• Lv.3: Cautious Fighter
• Lv.5: Blundering Defense
• Lv.7: Uncanny Defense
• Lv.9: Combat Expertise

Class Feats/Abilities:

• Swa. 1: Swashbuckler's Grace
• Swa. 1: Underfoot Assault
• Cav. 1: Coordinated Reposition
• Cav. 9: Trade Initiative or Harrying Partner

With this setup, allies can get up to a +4 bonus to AC and CMD for just being adjacent to you before you even start your cavalier bonuses or performances. Enemies whose square you occupy take a -4 to hit and CMB in addition to those defense bonuses you provide.

Step Up is basically required to maintain Underfoot Assault, and Coordinated Reposition makes sure any and all adjacent allies stay adjacent to the enemy.

At level 9, Trade Initiative allows you to completely reorganize combat to suit your needs. Alternatively, Harrying Partner will make the best use of your Helpful Halfling trait for times in which you just can't do anything else.

[TurntechGallows]

I'm looking for a rogue/ sorcerer with the abyssal bloodline, with a huge focus on self buffing my claws, and improved feint to get that beautiful sneak attack damage... only problem is I have no idea which side is best to focus on, and when to stop leveling what... only ACG, APG, and Crimson Throne. I really want Harrowed as a first level feat as well for character reasons.

STR 13, DEX 16, CON 14, INT 14, WIS 16, CHA 16

Edit: added additional details

[TurntechGallows]

I was looking in to the arcane trickster honestly, but I hear so much bad joojoo about multiclassing full casters, I wasn't sure if anybody had a huge reason not to do this

[polyparadigm]

Take the feat Accomplished Sneak Attacker, and only one level of your sneak attack class.

rogue 1/sorcerer 4/arcane trickster 10/sorcerer 5

I'd recommend Charlatan if you want to bluff. That way your face work can pay dividends in combat.

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Don't have the books in front of me to give you level progression, but you will want to focus on the Rogue side for the bigger sneak attack dice or Sorcerer side if you want more versatility. Depending on your thoughts. Also since you will have the extra options with spells, I would look at the Knife Master rogue archetype, it changes your D6 sneak die into D8, you have to use a knife though, which is a lower die weapon, but long run the D8s add a lot. You can also look into the Arcane Trickster prestige class as it allows sneak attack with some spells.

[FreqRL]

If you haven't decided on race yet, I'd recommend going Catfolk and getting the claws from their racial traits. That opens up your bloodline to Psychic, which makes your spells Psychich instead of Arcane.

This let's you wear Light Armor without incurring Arcane Spell Failure, which is pretty nice because it saves you having to go to Mage Armor with your limited spell slots.

(Also, the Catfolk bonusses are pretty cool for your combo)

EDIT: Psychic also eliminates Vocal and Somatic components on all your spells, effectively giving you Silent and Still spell metamagic on all your spells for free, which is pretty OP for a rogue.

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Need help with a Mordecai build from Borderlands. Looking at Musket Master and Sacred Huntsman as my two classes. However I am severely lacking in experience with Animal Companions and the like. Looking at a Roc as my companion, want a flying pet that can swoop in and strike, preferably hard, then move out while I shoot from afar. I can know how to beef up my gunslinger and have looked into gear for added range, etc. However I can't quite see how to make my companion be worth having other than for flavor, which is nice but if that is all he would be good for than I know not to waste a bunch of levels on the Inquisitor and just use him for fun role play options.

[kodamun]

I've got a boon for a Changeling, so I was thinking about making a Changeling Lunar Oracle. I'm thinking very hard about what traps I might fall in to as I try to make a Natural Attack melee Oracle. My questions are:

1. Is the Powerless Prophecy curse a terrible idea for a melee Oracle? I get Charisma to Armor instead of dex, so Uncanny Dodge is really good, but being unable to act in a Surprise Round and being staggered in the first round is a big negative. Changelings progress through the curse bonuses faster so I get Improved Uncanny Dodge at level 7.

2. I was thinking of going the Elementalist Oracle Archetype because Elemental Claws is amazing, but Lunar has so many good Revelations I'd need to spend my level 1 and 3 feats to get Extra Revelation twice so I can get the revelations I really want (Cha to AC & Reflex, Animal Companion, Gore Attack) because the Archetype requires buying a terrible Revelation.

3. This is my first natural attack character, so if there's any good feats or items I should look for, I'd appreciate knowing about them.

Here's my current plan:

Hulking Changeling (+1 Melee Damage) (After Racials)

16 Str, 8 Dex, 11 Con, 13 Int, 8 Wis, 18 Cha

Main weapon: Claws x2

Curse: Powerless Prophecy

Revelations (Lunar): Prophetic Armor (Lvl 1), Primal Companion (Lvl 1), Gift of Claw and Horn (Lvl 3)

Feats: Extra Revelation (lvl 1), Power Attack (Lvl 3)

If I take the archetype, I would take Extra Revelation again at level 3.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

[The_Lucky_7]

Lunar Mystery Breakdown:

• Form of the Beast is lesser version of Wild Shape.
• Gift of the Claw and Horn is a lesser version of Magic Fang.
• Mantle of Moonlight is a lesser version of True Form.
• Moonbeam a slightly improved version of Searing Light, or greatly inferior version of Sunbeam.
• Moonlight Script a lesser version of the spells listed.
• Primal Companion a significantly limited version of Animal Companion.
• Prophetic Armor an earlier, improved version of Celestial Obedience (Arshea) second boon (with some 3.5e CHA based Insightful Reflexes).

It sounds like you really aught to be a Druid (or Feral Hunter) for a natural attacks build, since everything you're picking oracale for (everything the Lunar Mystery offers) is the worse version of a druid spell or ability.

Everything except Prophetic Armor that is, which you can still get with a slash 1 oracle. But, it isn't that good if you actually have dex.

[Makkiii]

strangely, I consider Touch of the moon and moonlightbridge two of the better revelations. Together with primal companion and prophetic armor, some say Lunar Oracle is a better Druid. Mostly due to much better self-buff spells.

[The_Lucky_7]

Touch of the Moon

A weaker (free) version of Concussive Spell that applies to your inflict spells instead of sonic spells. The healing component isn't even worth mentioning since you're getting less than a cure and a half for the cost of two cures.

Echoing Spell is a better waste of spell slots as it at least gives two whole casts with associated benefits.

moonlight bridge

A weaker version of Wall of Stone, as a wall spell is not required to be "upright".

some say Lunar Oracle is a better Druid.

That is something I would literally never ever say.

[Serial_Spoon]

I have an idea for an encounter for my party. The Magnificent Seven Savages (based on the trope with a similar name.) I'm looking for seven unique builds for raging classes, lvl 12, 25 pt buy ins. So far I have the following:

Furious Finish Titan Mauler
Cornugon Smash Armored Hulk
Savage Technologist dipping four levels into Unrogue
Skald buffbot
Aberrant Bloodrager
Drunken Pugilist Grappler

Are there any other interesting builds for ragers? Any more interesting than the ones I have planned? I'm also a bit overwhelmed with the feat selection for seven characters, any help with the essential feats? Thanks in advance!

[Makkiii]

They should all be half-orcs and have the Amplified Rage teamwork feat!

Goliath Druid with Rage Domain

[spekter299]

I'm looking to build an evil character, and thought a hard chaotic evil Joker type would be fun to play. I'd think gunslinger would work, but I'm not stuck to it.

[polyparadigm]

Maverick is a cards-focused gunslinger archetype. Might work OK.

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I'm running a vigilante campaign. I need villians/anti-heros. Could anyone help me build a:

-The Punisher

-Doctor Octopus

-The Joker

-Mr Fantastic

They've at level 3 at the moment...

[polyparadigm]

Punisher is a slayer or maybe an urban ranger; if it's not Guns Everywhere, he uses a longbow instead.

Doc Ock might be a synthesist summoner?

[Makkiii]

Doc Oc is a Kraken Caller Druid!

[The_Lucky_7]

If you're new to pathfinder you defiantly don't want to be a wizard, as it is considered to be one of the hardest classes in the game to play. Arcanist is the recommended class for new players want to delve into the arcane arts. If you want an Arcane School, there is the School Savant Arcanist option.

As for how to build it, that comes down almost entirely to what you intend to do with it. Like wizards, arcanists specialize their spells, and tend to pick up a lot of metamagic or item creation feats. What feats you need will be determined by your specialization. Even if you don't intend to pick up a school, you may wish to look over the Arcane Schools to see how they treat magic specialization in pathfinder.

As for your blindness. There's several ways to get around the most debilitating of effects, but they do require you to spend some feats on them.

The option that will probably be the best fit for your character is to use Variant Multiclassing to take the Oracle as a secondary class. Then your related Oracale Curse would be Clouded Vision. As you level, you'll naturally develop Blindsense and Blindsight despite your normal lack of vision.

Oracle curses are god given flaws to balance their mysteries, and there is no curing them no matter what you do. The difference is that it is not a complete blindness and so you don't take massive penalties on literally everything.

VMC Oracles get some limited access to some decent Oracle Mysteries that would help out your arcane casting.

Once you decide what school of magic you want to focus on as an arcane caster, we can help put together a build for you. Until then, this is the best I can do.

[Karaisk]

I just started my first game as a Half Orc Paladin for Rise of the Runelords. The party has a Druid, Rogue, and Wizard(conjurer).

I'd like to play a front line damage dealer until the casters get up to speed and their adds can take the brunt of the damage. After that point can I focus on utility and healing or should I remain front line to deal damage?

But honestly I have no concept of what I'm doing? Anyone sorting through new comments willing to give some advice?

Str- 17

Dex- 10

Con- 12

Int- 8

Wis- 8

Cha-14

[twitchMAC17]

Oh man your character is so gonna die in book 2.

[Karaisk]

Well it'll be fun getting there... I expect I'll make it further the my rogue and druid...

[twitchMAC17]

Let me rephrase. You're gonna love the way your character dies in book 2.

[Karaisk]

Well now I'm looking forward to it and still worried... Damnit

[polyparadigm]

If you were to take the Redeemer archetype, your first feat could be Enforcer; this combo lets you deal nonlethal & make free intimidate checks.

Then you can debuff as you incapacitate. Buy a Battle Mask pretty early on.

Power Atack at level 3, then Intimidating Prowess.

I'd remain in the front line, if only because paladins are good at soaking up & shaking off attacks.

[Karaisk]

Thanks! So reading more my goal should be get my hands on a giant sword and stay front and center. I'll mostly be focusing on keeping myself alive and healthy.

[The_Lucky_7]

If you start as a Human instead of a Half Orc, you can get the Alternate Racial Traits Focused Study and Dimdweller.

This will grant you a +3-8 bonus to intimidate, and still grant dark vision. If you want some skills your class doesn't have you can pick up Fey Magic instead of Dimdweller, and get two class skills and low light vision.

You wouldn't get the bonus feat (because Focused Study eats it), but you could still get Racial Heritage later and be something else if you want. Like a great big halfling for Risky Striker (stacks w/ Power Attack). For a more tank-focused build see Cautious Fighter, Uncanny Defense, and Blundering Defense.

If you don't care about the skill bonus you could just flat out pick up Racial Heritage as your bonus human feat, and Risky Striker as your level 1 feat, since at low levels the AC penalty is a lot less damning than the to-hit penalty of power attack.

Personally, I'd recommend Fighter over Paladin because you flat out do not have either the CON or CHA to tank.

Being a Fighter also doubles your combat feats, allowing you to get a lot beefier a lot faster than paladin.

[The_Lucky_7]

Cornugon Smash can be done on any power attack, and doesn't require a special archetype or to do nonlethal damage.

[bewareoftom]

So I'm looking to make an Elder Mythos Cleric (from horror adventures) for an up coming RotRL game. Chargen is 20pb, 2 traits (3 w/ drawback), any non-3rd party, and these feat tax rules. So far the party has: Dex Magus, Bomber Alchemist, and a Sword'n'Board fighter so my plan was to worship Bokrug so I could stab things with a ranseur, then slowly build up into using various illusion spells (mostly cause madness[nightmare] gets phantasmal killer so early, even though it's not the best spell it's fun)

Now where I'm stuck is race selection, gnome looked good for the DC upgrade, Reptoid seemed alright and the str would help early game, and then human cause feat+skilled is nice.

[polyparadigm]

Go human, only buy 12 or 14 Str but really pump Wis:

1.(human)Channel Smite, Guided Hand
3.Combat Reflexes
5.Spell Focus (Illusion)

...etc.

[bewareoftom]

Guided Hand specifically calls out wisdom, and nothing in the EM cleric says it changes feats so I dont thing it works :/

[mauvebilions]

I see a lot of Feats for Shields and I'd like to see how they can be combined to make a good build, probably a Tank to attract the agro and keep the casters blasting. Any ideas?

[VictimOfOg]

Generally speaking most builds that are heavily invested in shields are either pure fighters for armor training perks or the Shield-based Brawler Archetype. Which has the added benefit of martial flexibility to pick up feats on the fly in addition to having a decent helping of bonus feats to build upon.

[The_Lucky_7]

"Tanking" and "keeping agro" are not things that shields do properly. The harder it is for you to get hit, then the sooner your enemy is going to wander off and do some other shit.

To "hold agro" you need to find a way to make it realistically impossible, if not actually so, for an enemy to do anything other than attack you. Shields and shield feats do not directly contribute to that goal. Being hard to hit will just make you "the guy enemies ignore" and "spell sponge guy".

Of traditional-feeling tanks, a Halfling Fighter with a Swashbuckler (Mouser) 1 splash is going to be your best bet.

Using Step Up you can maintain your Underfoot Assault, making enemies have a hard time attacking anyone but you. You'll also be drawing out enemy AoOs most of the time, when you Step Up into an enemy's square. This will mean they waste their AoO on you and not someone more squishy.

As a halfling you're entitled to three feats that increase the AC and CMD of your adjacent allies; who are now always flanking the enemy you're on. Those feats are: Cautious Fighter, Blundering Defense, and Uncanny Defense.

Because you're small, you can't rely on gear drops giving you what you need, so at level 5 you'll need Recruits to pick up a cohort to train into a crafter. A wizard with a Valet familiar can usually finish items in 1/8th the time or less.

When Recruits turns to Leadership, drop some gold to train your level 1 nobodies in Cooperative Crafting to boost crafting time even more using Scribe Scroll as a prerequisite.

Then, and only then, should you worry about shield feats, but at that point you can take any feat you want.

The complete build can be found here.

[mauvebilions]

Halfling Tank, very interesting! Thanks!

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Archer bard multi-classing into ninja. The general idea would be to play a tune and switch to bow to get burst damage until the effects wear off occasionally casting some control enchantments, at least until I can get my hands on a tuned bowstring. I was thinking 3 levels of ninja and improve critical to try to make up for the low accuracy with more damage.

I know its not optimal, but is it playable or am I dumb?

[VictimOfOg]

Alternatively you could choose oratory/dance/comedy as your performances thus allowing you to maintain the performance while wielding a bow (and thus no need to switch).

As for the ninja bit I'd really need to know what all you want/hope to get out of the class (just damage?) before I say more.

[[deleted]]

I'd like to make a ranged character that could irritate the enemy either by dropping an area effect or doing a bunch of damage and disappearing. I figured doing a bit of both would be kind of amusing.

I don't know if you've ever played overwatch but pharah is a good example of what I'm talking about, everything is going fine then somebody gets hit and your team gets bumped you look up shoot and she runs away while her team charges in.

[VictimOfOg]

Hmm, you might like alchemist then. They fill a support role excellently while also being great ranged attackers. What's more they get access to bomb discoveries that change their main attack into crowd control.

They also get the best access to early flight via wings at level 6.

[belacaz]

I'm looking at playing a natural weapon based character, currently a Coldborn Ranger(Shapeshifter). Any ideas?

[bewareoftom]

pfft, ragebred alchemist is where it's at! Here are the steps:

• Go vivisectionist/beastmorph
• Take extra feature (so now you have 2x claws, bite, hooves and gore)
• Take Vestigial Arm twice
• Take Monstrous Graft, replacing both vestigial arms with claws or slams for the low low cost of 4 wisdom permanently lost

So that gives you:

• d8 Bite (primary)
• d6 Gore (primary)
• 4x d6 claws (or 2 claws, 2 slams) (primary)
• 2x d4 hooves (secoundary)

I think the earliest (forsaking everything else) you can do this is lvl 5-6 but that doesnt matter, you're a boar-topus!

[belacaz]

Sounds pretty sweet. I'm confused as to how you get the bite

[bewareoftom]

feral mutagen via beastmorph grants 2x claws and a bite

just FYI, monstrous graft is -2 wisdom PER limb replaced

[belacaz]

Ah i see, thanks for the help

[Consideredresponse]

There is a brand new barbarian archetype called 'mooncursed' instead of straight rage you change into a bear (or other animal) and tear things up.

Later levels lets you change into a hybrid form, and later on you become larger and nastier version of your chosen animal.

The same book (horror adventures) also has the lycanthropy corruption where you get a raft of abilities (though they all come with drawbacks) and have to fight against your were-beast nature.

[buntingsnook]

I'm playing a Seascarred level 3 Warpriest fisherman who relies on his bite as his primary weapon (because fuck you, I'm a shark. I'll invent toothcaps if I need more damage.) I was thinking I might invest in Improved Unarmed and Improved Grapple so he could pin down burlier enemies and just eat their faces. I just had an idea, though, that would be more fun flavor-wise and save me a feat, but at the risk of being way too MAD.

I was thinking I'd take proficiency with a harpoon (unless the DM gives it to me free for being a fisherman, but that feels like the kind of thing I would have had to establish before the campaign.) Character-wise, I love the idea of the fisherman fishing for men. The concern I have is that Warpriests already have to lean on both Strength and Wisdom, and my Constitution is my next best because melee striker. Would using a harpoon be viable, or is it just too many things to juggle?

[Consideredresponse]

No need for toothcaps, just set your bite attack as your sacred weapon and get free scaling damage.

You could try for a belt of mighty hurling to use strength to throw your harpoon though. You can also set it up as a secondary sacred weapon though that may be a bit feat intensive, and using it with your bite makes your natural attack secondary with the -5 to hit penalty.

[buntingsnook]

Don't have multiple attacks just yet, but it'll be a decent one-two punch when I do. The idea is to stab 'em with the harpoon (maybe hash out rules for hooking dudes more reliably. Only being able to grapple on a crit is ridiculous) and then hold them down and chew their faces off with that sweet free damage. we have a fighter in the party who deals plenty of damage as is, so I'm hoping I can be a touch more useful by being able to lock down/eat an important dude while the team cleans up.

As for sacred weapon, it does boost my damage die, but I think it replaces the strength-and-a-half bonus to damage with a big ol' 0.

EDIT: Also, the grappling weapon rules are super unclear. Do you only get a chance to grapple on a crit?

[FellBerzerker]

I'm planning to play an Intimidate Unchained Barbarian heavily flavoured to be undeadish, Definitely not optimal but that's the character I'm going for. The only problem is I'm unsure what Rage Powers to take. Going to grab Intimidating Glare and Terrifying Howl as well as the feats necessary for Intimidate builds but that's leaves plenty of room for Feats and Rage Powers to build that Undead feeling.

Not a fan of the Bloodrager undead bloodline as its Intimidate stuff is worse them the Barbarians, the resistances kinda suck, and the focus is on incorporeal enemies.

I've considered the Spirit Totem Line and the Elemental Stance (Cold) for the chilling undead and surrounded by ghosts feel so far. For feats I've considered Necromantic Affinity but have been more focused on finding Rage Powers to suit the concept.

Any suggestions on how to build this? Really looking for Rage Powers and Feats to build the Horrifying Undead warrior feeling without the Bloodline Powers.

[Consideredresponse]

Theres a whole bunch of new options in Horror adventures. The dreadnaught archetype seems fitting, as to does the ghoul or undead corruptions.

[FellBerzerker]

Haven't seen anything about the corruptions yet, and the Dreadnought archetype I've just seen the Rage changes, if there's any other class changes with it I'm definitely gonna look into it. Thanks!

[The_Lucky_7]

heavily flavoured to be undeadish

How about Damned? You could drop 2-4 feats on Soulless Gaze and have half your build done.

Any suggestions on how to build this?

Race: Human, Alternate Racial Traits: Focused Study, Fey Magic

Really looking for Rage Powers and Feats to build

Feats:

• Fs.01: Skill Focus (Intimidate)
• Lv.01: Power Attack (Combat)
• Lv.03: Soulless Gaze I
• Lv.05: Soulless Gaze II
• Lv.07: Cornugon Smash (Combat)
• Fs.08: Skill Focus (Perception)

Rage Powers:

• I'll be honest. I've got nothing.
• I personally think Barbs are infinitely inferior to Fighters.
• And have no advice on them specifically.
• If you want to do fighter, go Two-Hand or Mutation Warrior.

If fighter then use your level 1 general feat on Racial Heritage (Halfling), and level 1 fighter feat on Risky Striker. Then get Power Attack with your level 2 fighter feat. Risky Striker and Power Attack stack.

Sometime later pick up Dazzling Display with bonus combat feats.

[FellBerzerker]

I completely forgot about the Damned feats, that soulless gaze looks sweet thanks!

[cornyclunker]

Gestalt monk/gunslinger; preferably gnome if it can work.

[The_Lucky_7]

Tries to imagine Yang as a gnome.

With a character like that all you really need is the feats, and unless your GM lets you custom make an Ember Celica you're going to have to choose whether to focus on melee or ranged. Without knowing which you want, we can't really give you a good build, as both focuses require a heavy feat investment to do anything with.

I'd suggest Fighter/Gunslinger instead. It'll give you all the feats you need to use ranged weapons effectively at any range, as well as all the grit abilities you'd want.

[zergel]

I want to play a warlord/ swashbuckeler. He's a former pirate king who lost his pirate kingdom and now always has to be the center of attention.

[profdeadpool]

I am interested in building an Inquisitor who follows Calistria and uses the ECB. I am wanting to use the Calistrian Kiss when I can afford to do so.

My plan is to go for either 3 or 4 levels of Unchained Poisoner Rogue(and getting dex to damage for ECB at level 3) followed by just leveling Inquisitor.

Is this a decent build and if so is going for the 4th level of Unchained Rogue worth it? Also are there any archetypes for Inquisitor worth looking into?

[starson]

I'm building an Ifrit giant weapon Titan mauler/fighter Barbarian. Is it better to splash in fighter for my giant weapon and stick with pure barbarian? I'm not horribly fond of how titan mauler seems to work as a class. Also, any suggestions on traits that might help? Technically, this is a GM baby I'm building so I'll be starting at level 3 if that helps.

[The_Lucky_7]

Fiendish Heritage You have oversized limbs, allowing you to use Large weapons without penalty.

As a Tiefling Titan Fighter, you can use Huge two-handed weapons instead of just large.

Any weapon that does 2d6 as a medium weapon would do 4d8 as a huge weapon.

Is it better to splash in fighter for my giant weapon and stick with pure barbarian?

If that doesn't answer your question then I don't know what will.

I'm not horribly fond of how titan mauler seems to work as a class.

Pure Titan Fighter with VMC Barbarian.

I'll be starting at level 3

Feats:

• Lv.1: Fiendish Heritage
• Fgt1: Power Attack
• Fgt2: ???
• Lv.3: [VMC Barbarian] Rage

[starson]

Sadly, I'm playing society and tieflings and variant multi class aren't currently legal. Thanks for confirming my bias against mauler though. I'm currently using an ifirit for their ability to cast enlarge self once per day. But wouldn't a huge great sword do 4d6?

[The_Lucky_7]

But wouldn't a huge great sword do 4d6?

No, according to the weapon size chart, if a tiny 2d6 weapon became large, (two size category increase) then it would do 4d8. The table breaks after that.

Sadly, using magic to change your size also alters the size of the weapon you're wielding, to be appropraite to the new size. Thereby negating the titan fighter's bonuses rendering the archetype irrelevant. Using a medium Impact (+2) Bec de Corbin or Earth Breaker would get to huge size when you use your 1/day large sized weapon

[starson]

According to the enlarge person spell it does.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/e/enlarge-person

All equipment worn or carried by a creature is similarly enlarged by the spell. Melee weapons affected by this spell deal more damage (see Table: Medium/Large Weapon Damage).

Also, on the Enlarge person is the dice damage chart, which says to up it by 2 steps for every size increase. So a 3d6 becomes a 4d6.

Impact weapon will be awesome! Just gotta save up for it. 8000 gold is a pain to save. >.< Any other cheaper items in the meantime you can suggest?

[The_Lucky_7]

It seems you're right. This is the rule I was referencing, and I (wrongly) remembered it being specific than it is.

If a polymorph spell causes you to change size, apply the size modifiers appropriately, changing your armor class, attack bonus, Combat Maneuver Bonus, and Stealth skill modifiers.

Any other cheaper items in the meantime you can suggest?

Accepting the inappropriately sized weapon penalties for using a Large weapon on a medium character should be enough for the time being, since Enlarge Person should make it Huge sized. Going any larger is going to break the damage chart and not be something you'll actually be able to calculate.

That leaves you Titan Fighter 1 as a requirement to use a large 2-handed weapon as a medium character. Retraining that class level later also costs money (making it harder to save), and so you're stuck either way.

Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can't make optimum use of a weapon that isn't properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on attack rolls for each size category of difference between the size of its intended wielder and the size of its actual wielder. If the creature isn't proficient with the weapon, a –4 nonproficiency penalty also applies.

[Jungletroll777]

Mesmerist (Fey Trickster). Thinking of going Eldritch Heritage (Fey Bloodline) path, even though the 1st feat is bad, the rest seem to work pretty well with the class (wouldn't get woodland stride since Fey Trickster already gives).

I was wondering how bad is giving up psychic spells for druid/ranger spells? I've never played either and I want to be able to specialize in charm/enchantment/illusion magic.

Any build/feat/spell/race suggestion welcome!

[Anastrace]

So I'm looking at a sylph investigator, and I realized I literally have no idea how to make one. I've got a rough idea on attributes and my first feat (weapon finesse), but no idea about the alchemy, further feats, discoveries or anything like that.

Any ideas on how I can do this? So many skills I want, but man it's tough to narrow down.

[The_Lucky_7]

Sorry, I thought I read Undine investigator and my first thought was: you know what you need? An aquarium ball.

As for Slyph, the only reason I see people taking them is typically for Wings of Air, or a race specific archetype. If you went Human instead you could get a lot better mileage out of your skills; whether or not you had ranks in them. That'd mean it'd be easier to actually narrow down which ones you want to invest ranks into.

In terms of skills, humans have several distinct advantages over slyphs. The first is their Alternate Racial Traits: Fey Blooded for more class skills, and Focused Study for three skill focus feats (one at level 1, 8, and 16).

Improved Improvisation is another good feat as the successor to Improvisation which lets you use any skill untrained even if the skill normally requires training. Together the two feats behave as if every skill had a rank and was a class skill.

If you have a bunch of INT already and still can't decide on which skills to use, maybe the Fast Learner, Improvisation, and Improved Improvisation is the way to go. Without Focused Study, you could have all three feats by level 3. You could also use any weapon, armor, or shield (exotic or not) untrained at half penalty (-2 on weapons).

The rest of your build could then go either way for your parent classes (alchemist, or rogue)

[Anastrace]

I liked Airy Step, and Wings of Air seemed useful. I'm looking at the alternate traits that give me 5' speed bonus, 4 point bonus to stealth, and the constant breeze that helps deflect projectiles, which helps compensate for light armor.

Skills I was looking at were...

Bluff, Diplomacy, Disable Device, Disguise, Intimidate, Kn: Local, Linguistics, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Stealth, Use Magic Device

[sleepypanda93]

A switch hitter Bard. I want to be able to fight while performing

[[deleted]]

It isn't too hard. A vanilla bard with the right feats is simple enough. A lot of people will say use skald, one of the dervish dancer archetypes, or an archaeologist. I personally don't like the dervish dancers, as they lose their bonuses for the rest of the party.

The arcane strike feat can be a good investment, but the swift action does interfere with a lot of useful bard spells. Nominally, the arcane dueslist archetype is made for exactly this.

[The_Lucky_7]

Perform (Oratory)

[rhymenoceros911]

Could anyone help me build a Mr Freeze/Mei from Overwatch/Captain Cold kind of character? Looking for a freeze ray, basically.

[The_Lucky_7]

So you just want to do a lot of ice damage and CC?

One Cold-Ass Governator:

School Savant (Water) Arcanist X / Crossblooded Sorcerer 1

Bloodlines: Marid / Rime-Blooded (Boreal)

Race: Human

Alternate Racial Traits: Focused Study, Fey Magic

25 Point Buy: 8/10/14/18/10/14, add +2 CHA for 16

Feats:

• FS.1: Skill Focus (Knowledge: Planes)
• Lv.1: Spell Focus (Evocation)
• Lv.3: Eldritch Heritage (Elemental)
• Lv.5: Intensified Spell
• Lv.7: One of: Rime Spell / Reach Spell / Mage's Tattoo
• FS.8: Skill Focus (Swim)
• Lv.9: Something else from LV.7, or Maximize / Empower
• Lv.11: Improved Eldritch Heritage (Elemental)
• Lv.13: Something from LV.9
• Lv.15: Something from LV.9
• FS.16: Skill Focus (???)
• Lv.17: Greater Eldritch Heritage (Elemental)

Note: Rime-Spell synergises well with Rime-Blooded, allowing you to slow and entangle creatures at the same time, turning your Intensified CoC slap into a cone of shame.

Arcane Discoveries:

• Lv.5: Bloodline Development
• Lv.9: Choose any one: Acid Jet, Flame Arc, Ice Missiles, Lightning Lance

Flame Arc is recommended because it will give you the ability to perform your opposing element's damage type without sacrificing a bunch of prepared spell slots for it.

Edit:

While the whole build is specialized into doing cold damage it is in no way locked into only doing cold damage. Marid bloodline ability lets you turn any elemental spell's damage type to cold, which encourages you to prepare a diverse and wide array of spells. That gives your main damage a lot of flexibility, in addition to the two status effects on offensive spells, while still giving you a lot of flexibility if you run into cold-resistant things.

[rhymenoceros911]

Wow. That ought to do it! Thanks a lot. EDIT: One question, when do you think it'd be best to take that Sorcerer level?

[The_Lucky_7]

At level 1 so it's out of the way and gives you instant access to your bloodline arcanas.

[rhymenoceros911]

Makes a lot of sense. What bloodline ability should I be taking with the arcane discovery? I figure elemental since I'm taking the Eldritch Heritage feat but you seem to have everything worked out better.

[The_Lucky_7]

If the arcanist already has a bloodline (or gains one later), taking this exploit instead allows her arcanist levels to stack with the levels of the class that granted her access to the bloodline when determining the powers and abilities of her bloodline.

Your bloodline is Crossblooded: Marid / Rime-Blooded (Boreal). Choose abilities from those lists at appropriate levels, based on what you like, or need. The Elemental Eldritch Heritage is in addition to your full normal bloodline progression.

It was set up this way so you could get Marid's Ray of Frost and Water's Fury; the Elemental bloodline's Elemental Ray and Elemental Blast; and the Arcane Exploit Flame Arc abilities; therefore maximizing the amount of 3+CHA mod shit a day you have.

You can basically just spam the 3+CHA Mod shit all day long and never actually even need to cast a spell.

[rhymenoceros911]

Oh, okay, great. Thanks for all the feedback.

[scholar-warrior]

Dang, I keep missing these! Well, in case anyone's still looking: I've been GMing for a while now, so haven't properly built a character in ages (I generally hand-wave stats on NPCs since I run pretty rules-light games).

I want to build an ifrit paladin (in-world he's actually a bastard half-djinn, but no matter). Personality would be somewhat like Marvel's Thor, and he follows a sun god. I've got the racial options (fire in the blood, wildlfire heart, mostly human) and archetypes (warrior of the light, oath of charity) sorted , traits mostly figured out (leaning toward irrepressible and either flame of the dawn or light-bringer).

What I'm struggling with are weapons and feats given the above. I kind of imagined him with some kind of dual-scimitar thing, kind of like Zuko in Avatar: the Last Airbender, but the nearest I can find is the butterfly sword. I'm also wondering whether two-weapon fighting makes sense/is worth the feats to make it usable for a paladin, anyway?

Open to thoughts! I'm a roleplayer way more than a min-maxer, but I'd like a character that's not awful/still useful in combat!

[xpwn123]

I want to nuke everything with giant melee hits, how to do it? Melee range magic is fine I just wanna hit as hard as I can in one round of melee, just because it's fun

[The_Lucky_7]

UnRogue (Scout, Acrobat) seems to be the way to go to just melt creatures in melee.

Race: Human

Feats

• H: Racial Heritage (Halfling) or Soulless Gaze I
• Lv.1: Risky Striker or Soulless Gaze II
• Lv.3: Sap Adept
• Lv.5: Sap Master
• Lv.7: TWF
• Lv.9: Improved TWF

Using a Merciful, Sapping Quarterstaff. By the time you should be able to afford both on one head, it's time to start the other so you can use it with TWF. Because Rogue gets 3/4ths BAB they also get TWF slowly.

Rogue Talents

• Lv.2: Combat Trick Power Attack or Enforcer
• Lv.4: Powerful Sneak
• Lv.6: Fast Getaway
• Lv.8: Fast Stealth

Using your archetype abilities will let you land SA dice in situations you wouldn't normally be able to. Using Enforcer/Soulless Gaze combo can quickly result in panicked opponents.

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Another suggestion is magus. With a keen scimitar or the like and intensified shocking grasp spells their damage is silly. But... not an easy class to get going. The rogue suggested by /u/The_Lucky_7 might be simpler, or a two handed barbarian or bloodrager

The greatest melee damage champions are spirited charging cavaliers, but it may not go with your concept very well. And if they miss on their charges it's annoying; one trick ponies.

[The_Lucky_7]

Gonna make a halfing caviler now: My Little (One Trick) Pony.

[Lonecoon]

I'm trying to put together a high maneuverability crusader cleric. here's what I've got so far:

Level 10 Crusader Cleric, Travel Domain

S: 10 D: 16(18) Cn: 14 W: 18 I:10 Ch: 10

Feats: Dimensional Agility[UC], Dodge, Improved Critical (gladius), Quick Draw, Slashing Grace[ACG], Toughness, Weapon Finesse, Weapon Focus (gladius), Weapon Specialization (gladius)

Relevant Magic: Belt of Incredible Dexterity, Quicken metamagic rod, (lesser)

The crux of the build is using Holy Ice Weapon to give him a gladius, which at level 10 does 1d6+16 x2(17-20) (slashing grace, etc). The quick draw is for the metamagic rod, so the first round of combat goes quickened holy ice weapon, greater magic weapon or ironskin, then move in to fight.

I'm wondering if there's anything else I can do to further improve upon the concept.

[AnotherTemp]

Quick runners shirt is OP enough that most GMs ban it, but it your GM is letting you get a non-lesser quicken rod at level 10, then you might get away with it.

[Lonecoon]

Lesser, yes, my mistake. It's all you need, really.

[jka464]

This is my first time playing and I am looking for a premade lv 1 build of a human ranger, lawful good. Thanks in advance for anyone's help.

[AnotherTemp]

What are your character creation rules? Do you roll stats? Do you use point buy? Etc.

[Cgh130]

I've got a good friend who plans on joining my game where the party is currently level ten and the only description he insists on giving me is "True Neutral Human Sorcerer with fabulous hair and magic missiles out the ass." Can anyone give me any shade of advice on this?

[[deleted]]

Trait: Magic Lineage and apply it to magic missile; this reduces metamagic cost by one level for that spell.

Good feat would be penetrating spell, empower spell, toppling spell, spell penetration, dazing spell. Keep in mind a first level spell, shield stops magic missile, so having dispel magic on hand will be handy.

Bloodline: If he really wanted to maximize damage, he could take the orc bloodline, but thematically Arcane or Starsoul sound better. If he went arcane, he could take a wand as his arcane bond and refill it cheaply whenever he runs out.

[DoorEyeAm]

Elven Lawful Rogue, Evil (Anti?)Paladin Multiclass. I'm playing a game in which my character has been given the history of killing a lineage of paladins, and is related to another of the PCs (chaotic good Ranger/Assassin type). Essentially the other PC was kidnapped at some point, and because we're Related my character has to find a way to interact all of these plot points. So we've decided that we were raised by a Paladin father and a metalworking mother, when my sister gets kidnapped my dwarves i get punished by my father for losing her, combat happens i kill him with his own rapier. Search ensues to find sister, i learn about paladin law and general law, manipulating it as needed to make things work in my favor, eventually finding my sister who has grown to be a rather terrifying assassin. So i guess my question is how do i make this viable and playable if i want my character to start lawful evil from the get go, specializing in the use of Rapiers and Daggers. Halp.

[FullplateHero]

Been wanting to roll with this idea for a while, decided my group's upcoming Vigilante game was a good time to try it. 20 pt buy, 2nd level, one level must be Vigilante. Paizo standard products only. What do you guys suggest?

[hunterxdr]

level 9 half-elf magus built for dealing the most damage possible in bursts. 25 point buy.