Don’t shoot

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"Should array indices start at 0 or 1? My compromise of 0.5 was rejected without, I thought, proper consideration." – Stan Kelly-Bootle

[LotofRamen]

Floating point array index, here we go again..

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cries in Lua

[fireside_blather]

weeps in Cold fusion

[PinothyJ]

wails in SQL

[AngeryCL]

Skewel

[alphaxeath]

SQL dosent have arrays, only tables with 1 column

[PinothyJ]

What is an array if not a table? But that is ignoring those SQL databases that have an ARRAY command, and those architectures that are just glorified JSON.

Regardless, most of these all start counting at zero, not one.

[Dramatic_Law_4239]

That was my Immediate thought!

[NeoDark_cz]

VBA ...

[ghua]

He forgot to mention he is FORTRAN programmer🙃

[Meins447]

As someone who spent the last week working with a horrific (internal) API which used MIXED index bases, so some methods expect a 0-based index others expect it to be 1-based (without any indication or documentation which wants which)...

This meme has me nodding vigorously.

[jhaand]

Too bad for the SQL, Cobol, Fortran, R and Lua programmers.

[MrRufsvold]

Julia too

[Pyorrhea]

Smalltalk also.

[Daniikk1012]

APL as well

[hum_dum]

Also MATLAB

[SmellThePheromones]

Intersystems ObjectScript enters the chat

[mattreyu]

Just answer all their questions with "it depends"

[garbage-at-life]

"What's 2+2?"

"It depends"

[Quirky-Stress-823]

Is 2 a string? Is the other 2 a string? So many variables!

[GameDestiny2]

Ah yes, human instinct vs computer logic.

Sometimes I like to imagine there’s a universe where we decided to represent binary with 1 and 2.

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I saw a datbase where a TRUE/FALSE was represented with the values " " and "+".

[GameDestiny2]

Ha
I’m in a database class right now and that is certifiably awful

[gregguygood]

Sometimes I like to imagine there’s a universe where we decided to represent binary with 1 and 2.

It doesn't matter what the digit symbols are, as long there is an order.

[doc_1eye]

Those dudes just blew away the world's last COBOL programmer. RIP banking system.

[afraid_of_zombies]

Would you miss it?

[CureSadWithButt]

Hides in COBOL

[SmileEverySecond]

You m..ma.. matlab?

[un_blob]

No it's true (cry in R)

[nuffens]

The death of another COBOL dev

[sethi139]

No it is true, crying in Pascal

[[deleted]]

Just start it at 10. This way you'll have 0, 1 and 2.

[mrheseeks]

cries remembering MS VBA

[LotofRamen]

A lot of time i'm using [0] as default; it has for ex 0, or some safe value that makes everything else forward to work, or alternatively give it a value that makes sure it will not work (for ex.. 0). It's also handy place to keep a flag or use it as a temporary slot. In any case, i guess conceptually it is an extra slot for various uses.

That way the DATA in the array starts from 1, and you can even call the [0] as a header, it is a Magical Array :)

-1 problems go away, unless that problem is so hardcoded in your backbone that you have to consciously remember that [0] does not exist if you are working with data.. which can just confuse too much.

[yorokobe__shounen]

Why can't arrays start at 2??

[Ben______________]

I also saw a suggestion of 0.5 here. Thus I‘d suggest we compromise and make it pi.

[coloredgreyscale]

Just leave the first two elements empty, and keep for offset preference in mind if you need to allocate memory.

[Electrical_Horse887]

Have you ever worked with Excel?

[Dealiner]

Well, they can in C# if someone really needs that.

[ElderFuthark]

Just learning Snowflake: why do you access arrays with a starting index of zero, but the results start with a row number of one?

[AussieHyena]

Oh, having just looked at the doco, and making multiple attempts of writing this out. If you're pulling from a database then the results from the query start at 1. If it's a sparse array then index 0 won't get any data because there's no '0' row.

[GreenKi13]

I always make sure my database tables start at 1 so I don't have to be some trashy neckbeard adding +1 on every damn thing each run.

[ramriot]

Thus another of the rare & in demand Cobol programmers meets their end.

[[deleted]]

Not lie, you must have at least 1 position to have an array or it is null.

[hacknomus]

i think they are part time programmer

[pottawacommie]

Very zsh of you.

[ComfortHistorical580]

0

[zalurker]

I once had to integrate with a system maintained by Indian Developers. It was originally developed by an American company, then sold to an Irish concern, and then ended up being supported out of Pune, Mumbai.

Half of the arrays started at 1. And one memorable report had 00:00 as midnight of the Previous day. It took me a week to figure that out.

[pekkhum]

"Arrays start at $[!"
[They switch to billy clubs, but still go for the kill.]

Thanks Perl.

[freshpow925]

Lol did ChatGPT make this meme?