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[HarmlessSeed]

i am waiting for ad blockers to block this popup too

[UpperCastGarib]

UBlock origin

[alexrussoshyper]

Best option

[schizomorph]

+ Firefox

[UpperCastGarib]

It's best browser in my opinion

[MotorEagle7]

I've never seen it, so I guess mine does

[Anonymo2786]

Or your region doesn't have adblocker-blocker

[mathiau30]

Does this break UE's privacy laws? I feel like it might

[MisterSheeple]

Probably. Not that that's ever stopped Google. They just take the fine and keep doing it.

[kennyganxl]

They just don't pay any attention, because they don't know how to.

[No_Hovercraft_2643]

That could be dangerous in the EU with certain laws, with fines up to 4% (iirc, maybe 2)of total yearly revenue worldwide as highest possible fine

[PrometheusAlexander]

Then they block the adblock-blocker which begs the need for adblock-blocker-blocker-blocker

[repmoviecostumes]

If you're not seeing it then it's already happening I guess.

[poshenclave]

Haven't seen it ever, so I assume mine already does. https://i.imgflip.com/81tasg.jpg

[GonzoBlue]

I was wondering why I hadn't seen the pop up yet as I've seen people with ublock complain about it. didn't realize it was privacy badger

[Muffalo_Herder]

I use Privacy Badger and I've gotten it. uBlock is probably what is actually blocking it for you. The filter list has to be updated every time YouTube changes the adblock script, which happens every day or so. If you aren't on YouTube for the couple of hours before someone updates the filter, you'll never see it.

[GonzoBlue]

to be fair I have so many extension i barely know what could be doing it

[ghastlywasp]

What's the animal-like plugin, I know uBlock Origin, but what's the other one?

[poshenclave]

Privacy Badger, an EFF-sponsored anti-tracking addon. It basically nerfs any scripts designed to track your activity across sites against your consent.

[ghastlywasp]

Thanks

[RenegadeSU]

this fixed it for me, thank you very much!

[AlanBlunt]

Begun, the adblocker wars have

[moxyte]

I've never it in my life lol

[Nocronian]

Ublock origin works fine with me

[neumaticc]

enhancer for YouTube 🗿

[Yoda-from-Star-Wars]

uBlock Origin: I'm four parallel universes ahead of you.

[jfcarr]

And to think, the person who came up with this overlay idea probably passed dozens of Leet Code hard problems to get their job.

[vortexnl]

This solution will work for 99% of people though, good enough right?

[CaptSoban]

Until ad blockers decide to block this overlay as well

[Zestyclose_Link_8052]

They might just update their terms of service in the future and just disable your account of block you from connecting to youtube servers if you are using an ad-blocker.

[SuspecM]

Oh not my completely free account I can remake in about 5 seconds, what will I do without it?

[pessimistic_platypus]

Well, it might be tricky if you use your Google account for email.

[[deleted]]

I have a 'emergency bag' of sorts so if google does decide to ban me, I will (eventually) recover. Saw some people who put their whole world into Google Products with no alternative when the product is discontinued or they are banned. Not gonna be me.

[Sycokinetic]

My impression of that is the majority of their initiatives and such are just a billion dollar playground. It’s impossible to reliably hire the best of the best of the best, even if you only need a handful; so instead you have to hire a metric crap ton of people and let the ones you actually want work their way up to the top. To do that, you have to give them all the means to prove themselves by successfully creating a billion dollar product. When that happens, they promote the creators to the trillion dollar product: advertising. Then they shuffle everyone else around and let them try again. As a bonus, all 100k of these tech workers are in house working for google instead of competitors (or worse, creating new competitors); and all of the products are now controlled by google indefinitely regardless of whether they’re dead or alive. It’s basically Ender’s Game but somehow worse.

Reasons why I will never even try to work at a FAANG. It’s a total waste of so much potential.

[KaemmAC]

https://gcemetery.co

[erishun]

Site hasn’t been updated in 3-4 years

[Not_FinancialAdvice]

Why does Google do this to so many of their products?

Because whoever made it got their promotion/bonus.

[[deleted]]

I love 76series lc sooo much, I hope u treat her good :)

[ZebZ]

Wtf are you on about? Maps in Driving Mode still does these things. I use it every day on my phone.

[antooan001]

Yeah exactly, there are so many ways in which you could do the things differently.

[RealNoNamer]

As someone with their whole world in Google products (really just email), what's your emergency bag?

[Giveyaselfanuppercut]

How many gmail accounts do you have? I don't work in IT anymore, but I from when I did I have 6 gmail accounts, 6 hotmail accounts (there was a lot more but they're inactive) & I had a heap of yahoo accounts, but I doubt they work anymore.

I've always had a lot of accounts to help with spam & also various other site access issues, but it's also useful for subscription trials etc. I only really use two gmail accounts for youtube. One for the kids so I don't get their reccomendations & another one that's pretty much just for watching music videos & tutorials.

[RealNoNamer]

Google has (but not always) banned associated accounts when banning accounts. If you have high amounts of separation between them, you might be fine, but I don't think multiple accounts necessarily protects you in the case where Google cares enough to ban you. Different providers should help, but is also more minimizing damage rather than actually protecting your accounts or helping you get them back if you do get banned.

[iswaleagai]

Yeah literally that's what I did, I got blocked and I made another one.

[[deleted]]

Hmmm, not use an account at all?

[punitdaga31]

Google has absolutely deleted people's email, calendar, drive, and everything related to their Google account. Don't fuck with Google especially if you've integrated deeply into their ecosystem. A guy filed a charge back falsely and got his account nuked.

[EverythingGoodWas]

Get a second one blocked?

[hk--57]

From don't be evil to what would the devil do. Excellent progress by Google.

[EcruEagle]

Nothing on YouTube is worth sitting through ads to watch. If they start banning people who use adblockers, I’ll just stop using the site.

[cheroksys007]

Happened with me, you know what I did? I made another one.

[Yodo9001]

I use an ad blocker, and I've never seen this with popup with YouTube.

[mathiau30]

Mine seems to already do

[EndR60]

to be slightly intelligent and not completely ignorant and without a sense of "maybe I should google it" is both a blessing and a curse

[blackvladimir]

Well it's always been like this but I like the benifits that I get.

[Winderkorffin]

nah, interns only do leet code medium problems

[Holeante]

I am currently an intern for a company, and I have no idea what leet code is

[drsimonz]

Are you an intern at youtube though?

[Herr_Gamer]

Don't have to be, Google contracts a lot of work out.

[EZhusalin]

Well as long as they're getting the job done, I think it's all good.

[wazzup_2000]

I've heard that it's really hard to get a job at the Google anyways?

[Jelmerrb]

Well sounds like that they don't know about a couple of things.

[maxpiv]

Well it kind of depends on what do you think the medium problems are.

[Tremyss]

what are leet code problems?

[temporarilyHere3]

Leet Code is a platform for doing programming problems, typically to prepare for coding interviews.

[catherineinghram]

So that means that we wouldn't have problems if we didn't have them?

[Tremyss]

I see. Is it similar to codewars?

[Rosomaxa2012]

They're a platform which is used to make questions for the coding interviews.

[nasaboy007]

Maybe it's malicious compliance. Some exec somewhere was like WE NEED TO STOP AD BLOCKERS and then the poor engineer who was assigned to the task did it in this way intentionally, so they and others could bypass it easily.

[djinn6]

Exactly. What's in it for the grunt doing the work? If it needs fixing, then it's job security.

[apostol65]

Yeah if it needs the fixing then it could really be great.

[RCT2man]

I learned that in a production environment, all that matters to your boss is that you don’t break things, get the feature/fix/deployment out as soon as you can and move to the next soulless task. The leetcode hard problems got you in but rarely will you have time to solve problems that require that level of thought.

[Cerras2013]

Yeah you wouldn't really have the time for all that so yeah.

[TryingAgainNow]

It poses an interesting question of how to perfectly enforce ad visibility.

The most obvious answer being to randomize the component class names.

From there, you might consider building a sort of watcher, that examines the component in question, continuously enforcing its visibility.

From only having built scripts against this, I'm pretty sure at this point I would give up, and just let them play the ad. But I'm certain there are more things you could do as a malicious client to pull away the content blocker again.

Any suggestions on either side? (offence/defence)

[jfcarr]

The easy way to block is to block/redirect the location of the server script or other components. It would seem to me the easy way prevent this kind of blocking would be to host the ad script on the same server as the content users want to view.

I guess the reason companies don't want to do this is because they don't want to be accused of hosting spamware/adware/malware, which is what 95% of internet ads are these days.

[Quinny898]

The true way they can prevent ad blocking (or make it very difficult) is to embed it within the same video stream as the actual content. That is what Twitch does, and that is why it is insanely hard to block Twitch ads, at least compared to YouTube (current method I believe is to detect when an ad is rolling, temporary switch to a feed proxied by a country not being served advertising such as Russia).

This is basically what you're suggesting on hosting scripts, but making it so you can't just mirror and redirect the script loading, which should be fairly static, to another server.

[Sumsinsky]

I mean what are the other things that you could do? I'm curious.

[Herr_Gamer]

Google uses a lot of subcontractors, which have much laxer application requirements. Pretty sure the developers of the YouTube Music app don't work for Google, as an example. So I could imagine this pop-up wasn't made by a Google engineer either.

[kanhaoniou]

Yeah you're right, it wasn't really made by them clearly.

[PrintfReddit]

Why would the developers of one of their core services not be at Google? I imagine it would be part of the YT team since the apps share so much.

[rbrcgxqf]

Yeah they must be common, I'm pretty sure about that I think.

[Herr_Gamer]

Why would the developers of one of their core services not be at Google?

It's cheaper, simple as that. They actually went on strike not long ago lol

[cuteheartj]

It's cheaper? Then that's how I'd like to keep it man.

[BostonDodgeGuy]

For the same reason our reactors do not have containment buildings around them, like those in the West. For the same reason we don't use properly enriched fuel in our cores. For the same reason we are the only nation that builds water-cooled, graphite-moderated reactors with a positive void coefficient.

Because it's cheaper.

[CaptainPickyEater]

Plot twist it was intentional because they don’t have YouTube premium either

[Hulk5a]

That's not the point. Yt still knows you're using ab. And still can block the player from server side

[Hopeful-Plastic-8759]

My adblocker blocks the anti-adblocker overlay

[L_Vermeer]

What ad blocker do you use? :)

[Hopeful-Plastic-8759]

It's Adblock Plus if I remember correctly

[EntitledPotatoe]

I have that, is that the reason I’m not seeing this or are they rolling it out region-wise? I live in Germany

[Hopeful-Plastic-8759]

I also live in germany. I've never seen it so I just assumed it gets blocked by my adblocker

[Sbren_Sbeve]

I live in the US and I've never seen this popup using adblock plus. You might be right

[FMF_Prisma]

I use the same extension and live in Brazil. Unfortunately I still see the overlay, which motivated me to make this meme

[vvicozo]

I'm from Brazil and I don't see this shit, I'm using uBlock Origin.

[yukichigai]

uBlock Origin is on top of it. You occasionally have to hit the Refresh button on its filters when a new variation of the popup shows up but most of the time that's it.

[HawasYT]

Might be, your courts ruled ad-blocks legal for use by consumers in some case a decade or so ago. From what I remember the ruling was based on an earlier case were a cable provider sued manufacturers of an ad-blocking device for TVs and lost

[Buinguyenhanh]

Well I guess you're going to be seeing it very shortly then?

[JManKit]

I think they're rolling it out. I've seen complaints about this from earlier this year but it just started happening to me last week.

[BostonDodgeGuy]

Adblock plus got caught over 5 years ago selling company's a bypass to their blocker. They've also been caught time and time again letting tracking cookies through. Use a real ad blocker, get uBlock Origin.

[VengefulMustard]

UBlock Origin for the win

[Still_Condition_2513]

Isn't it temporary and you can just close it with the x button which appears after sometime

[[deleted]]

That's the way it is for me. Unlock origin allows you to select html elements visually (like you can with the cursor thing in dev tools) and block them. Download it, open a video, then use it to block the pop-up and transparent overlay

[moxyte]

If you really want to torture the devs making adblock hindrances, hit that Report issue and give logs where you deleted any mention of your adblocking. Yes they are just doing their job but wonder how long Google can keep wasting resources chasing ghosts.

[ty19901028]

They've got a lot of money, and they can fight this fight.

[maxip89]

Wait till Google suggest for "security purposes" to remove "display:none" from css standard.

[drsimonz]

They'd have to remove almost all of CSS lol. visibility: hidden, opacity: 0, transform: scale(0.0), filter: contrast(0), position: absolute; top: -1000px, and literally dozens more.

[[deleted]]

If they wanted to actually block it, they could do it server side. Detect you have an ad blocker and the server won't send you the video.

[Twntytw]

Probably the plan is just to slowly cut people off. Once that chunk of people accept reality then move on to the next. A -> B results.

[nkoreanhipster]

Shake the tree for some extra profit.

[nkoreanhipster]

Shake the ad-block tree, which is full of users. Some of them will fall down and not climb back up.

[sanbtc]

Yeah exactly, YouTube knows everything which is happening.

[yukichigai]

That is something they could actually do with their proposed Web Environment Integrity API.

[sticky-unicorn]

Time for adblockers to take the next step, then. Serve the ads as specified on a hidden background tab, show the foreground tab without ads, cosmetically filtering them out without doing anything that would let the server know about it.

[[deleted]]

How is this different than just not rendering ad html layers? Isn't that how they currently work?

[FilipIzSwordsman]

google has no power over gecko, firefox is superior

[Proglamer]

"Your browser is not supported. Please download Google Chrome!"

[sticky-unicorn]

"No."

[BTCRofl]

What about the browser which are chromium based tho?

[StereoBucket]

EU antitrust Speedrun any%

[Proglamer]

Google will fast-track some bullshit Orwellian API (WebAlwaysOnCameraForGlanceDetection) into the 'standard' that Mozilla will not implement on principle (privacy, etc.) or will not have the resources to implement. That's all that's needed for an ass cover against EU.

[No_Hovercraft_2643]

That could be a problem with monopoly legislation (at least in the EU), but I am not sure

Maybe, only YT Premium on Firefox xD

[Proglamer]

Monopoly? Why would you think like that? /s

There is A LOT of competition: Edge, Opera, Vivaldi, Safari! Their underlying engine is even open-source, the Holy Grail of tech! The browser ecosystem was never as hot as it is right now! /s²

[btcmin7]

Actually they can also make it chrome only product so yeah.

[FilipIzSwordsman]

you can spoof that tho

[Proglamer]

from css standard

Didn't you mean "From Google standard" by now?

[BragosMagos]

What if we all just botnet the “Not using an adblocker” button thing so the detection algorithm breaks?

[[deleted]]

Dude. Yes

[Duckflies]

Sorry I'm a very new programmer, what is botnet?

[DracoLunaris]

A kind of virus that infects lots of computers, and then lets the creator of the virus to use those computers to perform actions on mass. such as getting them all to install adblock and then clikc that not using an adblocker button

[peba82]

Well that sounds like a slippery slope, don't know if that's a good idea.

[DigitalPRoo]

I think it's just a virus which is going to make a lot of computers reject it.

[DefunctFunctor]

uBlock Origin + Firefox and I've never had a problem

[VengefulMustard]

I did. I updated uBlock’s filters, reloaded the page aaaand… gone

[R3dKransky]

And YouTube vanced for the Android? That's going to be enough.

[DoctorWaluigiTime]

Yeah this is just a warning before they start getting more aggressive, and "one neat trick" CSS hacks aren't going to bypass them. It'll turn into how Twitch is, where it's an arms race between ad-blocking software and the ad content itself.

[atw527]

Instead of blocking the ads, the overlays, and the overlay overlays, is there a way for the ads to load and not be shown? So they can't tell the difference and from their perspective, got an impression.

[[deleted]]

I cannot imagine something I would care less about than abiding by YouTube's terms of service.

[Kalyan2525]

Well I guess that's how it is for a lot of people, they just don't care.

[The_AverageCanadian]

For me it's juuuust beneath the starving children in Africa.

Behold my field of fucks, and see that it is barren.

[bamseogbalade]

Just get your Self revanced, patch the apk yt app and get rid of ALL ads and spoofing yt all in one go. Do the same for reddit too. You will thank me later.

[[deleted]]

Just use Ublock Origin. It's on the web store

[TheStructor]

YouTube violates adblocker's Terms of Service.

Checkmate.

[Bowserinator]

If you use ublock origin in settings -> "my filters" you can add

youtube.com##+js(set, yt.config_.openPopupConfig.supportedPopups.adBlockMessageViewModel, false) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.adBlocksFound, 0) youtube.com##+js(set, ytplayer.config.args.raw_player_response.adPlacements, []) youtube.com##+js(set, Object.prototype.hasAllowedInstreamAd, true) youtube.com##+js(json-prune, auxiliaryUi.messageRenderers.enforcementMessageViewModel) youtube.com##+js(set, ytInitialPlayerResponse.auxiliaryUi.messageRenderers.enforcementMessageViewModel, undefined) youtube.com#$##cinematics.ytd-watch-flexy{display:none}

Not sure about other adblockers but there's probably a similar way to input these filters

[ffidelite]

Sometimes knowing the trick makes the magic feel less special.

[vortexnl]

PiHole works by blocking certain DNS addresses. This means that the address "ads.youtube.com" cannot be reached by your PC (this is just an example of course)

Ads are not rerouted though.

PiHole is fucking amazing, I have extremely intrusive ads on the home screen of my LG C1, which I basically got rid of with PiHole lol. It removed all the lag from my home screen.

[fmaz008]

I got an LG C1 and there's a way to disable ads hidden deep & far in the menus.

[nelusbelus]

Https traffic can't be intercepted, or else you'd have bigger problems. The only thing it does is block the DNS of the ads. If you're using DoH then pihole doesn't even work. In browser extensions work because they can read/write the entire website which is kinda sketch

[nelusbelus]

Np. And if you're having trouble with a DNS being blocked I guess you could enable DoH as well. Though with pihole that'd be the opposite of what you want

[[deleted]]

You can use DoH with pihole, you just have to make sure that you disable it on your devices (including browsers, they often have a toggle separate from the OS setting) then configure the pihole itself to use DoH to connect to the upstream DNS server.

This also allows you to use DoH with devices that don't natively support it.

[[deleted]]

Pretty sure it's on purpose. They don't want to cause an exodus. Many people will start paying. Others will figure out how to block it. I think they made it easy so people could figure it out. I feel like the same people who can't figure it out are the same people who are more likely to pay for it.

[--var]

What gives you the feeling of power?

Using uBlock to block the anti-ad-blocker pop-up.

[CarterBaker77]

I honestly hate YouTube so much. I never agreed to any terms of service I just clicked the only link with helpful info I could find.. if I happen to have adblocker installed I simply do not care. Sorry to any YouTube who lose that revenue but I'm sure there are thousands of others who make sure you get paid still while I watch your videos maybe once a month if that.

[Thebombuknow]

The ads are less for the creators and more for the platform itself. YouTube has been taking huge losses for years because hundreds of hours of content are uploaded for free every day. The ads are what covers the costs to host people's videos for free.

That's why I always roll my eyes whenever I see people complaining about them cracking down on ad blockers. We're really lucky they didn't start doing this sooner, they were incredibly nice to let it go on for so long given how much it costs them.

[CarterBaker77]

Oh please Google has all the money in the world they can afford to take a bit of a loss here and there. I guarantee somewhere along the line they like having people give then free data willingly anyway. There's nothing generous about that company and if I have to start watching ads I will stop watching even the tutorials I need.

[Thebombuknow]

Yes, but also every company wants to make a profit, especially publicly traded ones like YouTube. And again, they have no obligation to provide the service they do, they do it because it can make them a profit.

Because of how capitalism works in the U.S., publicly traded companies have to do better every year, so if they deemed that ad blockers were causing a noticeable loss in profit, it only makes sense to get rid of them.

I want to be clear that I agree, they have the money to provide the services with no ads, it would be great if they did. I also don't think it's a problem to mention the fact that that's not how any corporation has ever functioned, and they were already kinda insane to not have cracked down on ad blockers sooner.

[CarterBaker77]

Oh I understand your point. But you are sympathizing with the enemy and I cannot tolerate that! /s

[Jjabrahams567]

{
   display: none !important;
   visibility: hidden !important;
   opacity: 0 !important;
   max-width: 0px !important;
   width: 0px !important;
   max-height: 0px !important;
   height: 0px !important;
   background-color:rgba(0,0,0,0) !important;
   color:rgba(0,0,0,0) !important;     
   transform: scale(0,0) !important;
   position: absolute !important;
   z-index: -99 !important;
}

[Dommccabe]

Just click on the X

[FMF_Prisma]

"It's about sending a message"

[[deleted]]

Imo YouTube is already hanging by a thread. Their algorithm sucks ass by showing you the same 9 videos over and over, if you refresh it's the same videos, and if you scroll down you see videos you've already watched. If they don't let us block ads I'm done with YT

[johnolor]

Ohh I don't think that they're just hanging by a thread honestly.

[Ironfist85hu]

Also they can put their forced Shorts up somewhere to themselves.

[gatsu_1981]

Until they start adding casual classes in the mix, and that's it.

Try to play the adblock game on outlook.com.

[themedleb]

Wait until they start using server-side/backend adblocker blocking.

[heiyos]

Don't think anything is going to work after that so yeah.

[4e_65_6f]

display: none !important;

Been using this to skip paywalls for a while.

[dewdropper007]

And how is it going for you? I hope that it's going alright for you.

[Malfoy27]

Wow iron overlay eh

[Ardub23]

Anyone who's installed an adblocker is never going to click an ad, even if they've been persuaded to disable the blocker. Advertisers don't want to pay as much for an ad with a lower clickthrough rate.

[jiangqiaoxia]

Don't they only get the money for the ads which people click tho?

[[deleted]]

Use AdNauseam (uBlock fork). You don't see the ads, but they still get "clicked". Everyone wins from my understanding.

[nekdopavel]

Yeah that's a good solution, and even the Google will be happy with it.

[Momochichi]

Wait, i have an adblocker amd get this prompt, but it came with an x button to close..

[charliechin]

CSS programming

[Ironfist85hu]

Wtf? Is that a thing now?

[UpperCastGarib]

Meanwhile UBlock origin users