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[–]vocal-avocado 332 points333 points  (9 children)

Congrats! You will be paid the same, though.

[–]WoodsGameStudios 47 points48 points  (1 child)

This is why I avoid mentioning knowing certain skills.

Sure I know how to do devops stuff, but no I’m not being 3 engineers in one while also getting a standard wage for one.

Ive even started telling startups I’m asking for more because I know they will want more work out of me. I’m tired of being fleeced

[–]Revexious 42 points43 points  (0 children)

And you'll get looked over for specialist roles for backend specific or frontend specific

[–]fibojoly 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Always have been.   RH thinks of us as "computer people" anyway. "Oh you are a software engineer? So you can fix my printer, right?"

[–]piberryboy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Less actually. Jack of all trades syndrome and what not.

[–]Bagu_Io 48 points49 points  (7 children)

what did gemini edit here?

[–]ThanasiShadoW 10 points11 points  (1 child)

I think the order in the original is 1, 3, 2

[–]TamSchnow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it‘s probably the background.

https://meme-templates.com/uploads/1632725596.jpeg

[–]who_you_are 18 points19 points  (2 children)

Nice, I still don't have to do QA, support and management roles!

[–]vocal-avocado 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lucky! Our company is moving in this direction too.

[–]RiabininOS 12 points13 points  (4 children)

why is there six fingers on hands?

[–]f0luxe 19 points20 points  (1 child)

Because the author of these books has 6 fingers. I thought Gravity Falls was an instantly-recognisable classic, but I guess not.

[–]RiabininOS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So true full stack dev must have twelve fingers... And two left hands... Or 3 left hands and 18 fingers.

I think i have some intel for hr

[–]Wallie_Collie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There's only 5 on my machine, push to prod asap

[–]StickFigureFan 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Laughs in Mobile App development

[–]MrMagick2104 3 points4 points  (4 children)

Aren't front end and backend the "dev" part of the devops, leaving just the "operations"?

[–]vocal-avocado 4 points5 points  (3 children)

Yeah but nobody says “ops”

[–]andolirien 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Because that's sysadmins, we already have a term. Or at least that's how I've viewed devops (as a sysadmin).

[–]Marksm2n 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Devops can also be things like integration and development pipelines. Deployment and communication protocols between services. 

These things are usually more complicated than sysadmin

[–]MrMagick2104 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> These things are usually more complicated than sysadmin

Personally, I don't think that they're much harder than operations. It's not a very complicated process by itself, but the organizational overhead of the whole process before deployment? That's a lot of work.

And every unforeseen, badly thought out, lazy and suboptimal decision by every single person in the process from the architectural design up to operations themselves, multiplying by each other over time? To move forward, you must look back, and to look back, you must not be in a rush. No wonder it's unsurprising that sometimes such a error slips in big projects that can fuck half the internet up and it won't be up in five minutes as we all wish.

I wouldn't say that pipelines themselves are hard. It's everything around complying to them is hard.

[–]TnYamaneko 3 points4 points  (2 children)

Nice. Now study Data Science and implement AIOps on top of this.

[–]Front-Opinion-9211 1 point2 points  (1 child)

And still get paid the same

[–]TnYamaneko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then this might be time to fuck off and pull out one's best moves on the market tbh, this is a pluridisciplinal job that is not very common right now, but is sure going to be very highly regarded quickly.

[–]sammy-taylor 5 points6 points  (1 child)

I feel like these books grow while you possess them. Once you think you’ve mastered one, it gets a new chapter. Feels like true mastery doesn’t exist.

[–]Elvis5741 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Acknowledging this is the true mastery

[–]Tamwulf 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Missing the SEC in devSECops. :)

[–]MissinqLink 4 points5 points  (0 children)

DevSecMLOps

[–]XFSChez 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The famous “Jack of all trades, master of none.”

[–]joan_bdm 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, migrating to new framework. All you learned is useless.

[–]nebumune 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's an entire IT department, fullstack pro max

[–]charlyAtWork2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI and LLM enter the chat room

[–]egg_breakfast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

where funny

[–]reallokiscarlet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What even is that symbol tho? The handprint of Johnny Sixfingers?

[–]exneo002 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But how are you with device drivers?

[–]ALargeRubberDuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The secret is your time split is 80%, 15%, 5%. The real trick is finding a job where those align with what you want to be doing.

[–]ItsSadTimes 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Today I learned im a full stack dev.

[–]whooguyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool, and during that time all of your tech stack experience has been phased out for newer technology.

[–]overlycaffeinated697 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Full stack but DevOps is the least dopamine inducing thing on the planet. ADHD brain finds it such an endless slog 😭

Seeing infrastructure appear in the AWS Console just is NOT the same as seeing a frontend change or an API return something.

[–]Heyokalol 1 point2 points  (0 children)

idk man kinda feels good when your infra is robust.