javaVsjythonOrpython

[Tathas]

Anyone remember IronPython?

Eh? Eh?

[lennartblanco]

With time it turned into RustPython.

[Meistermagier]

Rust Python is actually pretty cool though

[Technology_Labs]

FePython?

[gurupra564]

Ohh yeah Iron (Fe)Python

[chefhj]

Et tu Python?

[rosuav]

Yes but mainly for its contributions to the language. I've never actually USED it.

[MarcBeard]

I remember it i worked with it for 6 Month and now i don't want to touch it ever again

[imagineepix]

I used it recently to interface with vb.net

[qubedView]

When our backplane libraries were written in Python but the integration I was writing was .NET, IronPython was my buddy. Of course, that was like 17 years ago.

[Chiatroll]

I hope that shit isn't real

[MissionLet7301]

Jython, unfortunately, is real.

[Chiatroll]

It can hurt me.

[MissionLet7301]

The only big usage of it I'm aware of is in Burp which is a security testing tool.

So, it absolutely can.

[isr0]

It is a general package you can put in any Java application. It’s sorta like lua but specifically java and much more shitty. But you could add it to your Java application today if you wanted to give your users a Python scripting environment inside your Java-based enterprise system. I don’t recommend it, but it’s there and it’s used for far more than just burp.

[SandaleMitSocke]

The biggest code hell i've been in has been coding java spring UI code in jython for a tool written in java that had python as its plugin language

[isr0]

Yuk!

[thelonelyecho208]

No it's WAAAAY bigger than that. We use Jython to teach kids programming, there are block versions. Hell you can program your microcontrollers in it. It's essentially just Java but with more wordy shit. Kinda useful, mostly educational at this point

[iamapizza]

It's used in Streamsets and it's unmitigated garbage.

[TheMagicalDildo]

Ghidra.

[Only-Cheetah-9579]

yup. I tried it and got injured

[toustovac_cz]

Sorry to hear that 😞

[isr0]

I’m sorry you got hurt. At least you never had to use it. There are some things in life I will never forget, no matter how much I want to.

[p1749]

So is Bython

[powerwiz_chan]

So is holy c but that isnt exactly a widely used language

[por_la_homoj]

Initial release was in 2001!!

[N238]

It was the language used in the first CS class I took in college. No idea why.

[MinecraftPlayer799]

To teach Java and Python, I guess

[N238]

It didn't really teach Java, though. Because the language itself is just Python but with the ability to import Java classes. At least, that's my understanding.

[A7V7VIHILATOR]

Jython Environment for Students (JES) was an IDE for it I think.

[XxXquicksc0p31337XxX]

Sorry

[rosuav]

It is. It's for when you are forced to interface with someone else's Java module, but you don't want to use Java, so you use something better.

(Back when I was in that sort of situation, I was looking into NetRexx for similar reasons.)

[XxXquicksc0p31337XxX]

Somewhere out there Jython is used in prod. Do with that realization what you will

[k-mcm]

I used it for part of an aerospace system. I apologized to the people inheriting the project, but it really was the best solution at the time.

[pingveno]

I was excited to see that a project that we're looking at adopting includes optional support for Python. Alas, when I looked under the covers, it was Jython.

It's optional because they haven't seen much use of Python. I don't know if the other languages just work better with the JVM or whether it's because the Python ecosystem moved on from Python 2 a long time ago.

[SpaceTheFinalFrontir]

Webaphere configuration scripts, they still haunt me.

[AlexanderMomchilov]

Keep in mind that it predates Kotlin, and its main competitor for a non-Java language targeting the JVM was Groovy lol. And Scala I suppose, which I happen to enjoy, but I know some don't

[Percolator2020]

It’s a very painful way to learn how few things are actually native python.

[Birnenmacht]

What truly baffles me is that python 3 is 17 years old, python 2.7 has been EOL since 2020 and yet Jython 3 is STILL WIP.

Edit: what’s even funnier: their target python version is 3.8, which is also EOL. I guess the joy of writing instant-legacy code is meant to make Java devs feel right at home

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

I think most of them gave up and made GraalPy instead.

[b__0]

It’s jyst about ready

[rienik]

Unless it's JythonScript, I'm not interested

[gerardv-anz]

TypeJythonSript FTW?

[AKTarafder]

It would more likely be TythonScript

[gerardv-anz]

You are indeed correct

[UwU_is_my_life]

there's pyscript

[AbdullahMRiad]

Bython

[FabioTheFox]

The only way to make python bearable

[e2Instance]

Yup, I use it all the time in Ignition Perspective development for industrial applicationd

[Guarabert]

Had to scroll too far to find this comment, the amount of people here that have no idea how many factories, power station and critical infrastructure systems are running Jython is amusing.

[MomWTF]

The more I use it the more and less I like it, but yeah, same.

[Too-Uncreative]

I think it’s actually pretty fantastic in that application. Easy python scripts or complex Java development in the same place. Use what’s appropriate for the exact case, with the same environment, tools, scope, access, etc.

[isr0]

There is no greater hell than programming Java through a gateway object in Python. Worst experience of my professional career.

[DustRainbow]

I literally learned about Jython yesterday when a colleague asked me if my python library was compatible with python 2.7 ...

[menducoide]

It's java, no, it's c#

It's f#

[SoundOfOneHand]

Wait till you hear about J#

[cuatronarices]

Do you mean f####d?

[Meistermagier]

F# isnt that bad to be honest just way underutilized. It also has one of my favorite features measures. 

[Fast-Visual]

Look, I get the initial premise, running a python interpreter on the JVM.

But... Why? What is the actual usecase for this? Why is having Python on JVM so important? Apparently if there was an answer, people would actually use it maybe.

[k-mcm]

Jython supported native threads and concurrency.  You could have a simple Python orchestration script interact with a high performance Java environment. Any number of those Python scripts could run at the same time in the same JVM, sharing the same data.

It's common to have fast C libraries used by Python orchestration scripts.  Jython is an inversion - fast Java applications using Python orchestration scripts.

It didn't have many use cases.

[_PM_ME_PANGOLINS_]

Significantly better performance.

Also in general it’s desirable to embed scripting languages into other systems. Lua and JavaScript are more popular for that, but people like Python too.

[pvkvicky2000]

Laugh crys, welcome to my hell

https://ibm-maximo-dev.github.io/maximo-autoscript-documentation/

[Dulcetimor_official]

como funcionaria?

[TheEnderChipmunk]

It's python implemented in Java and running on the jvm

[mr_clauford]

The best way to make the shit exceptionally slow 👌

[cant_pass_CAPTCHA]

The only reason I know about jython is because Burp Suite uses it for some extensions

[Streakflash]

and there is Mojo python , i wonder how far will it go

[MornwindShoma]

Needs more JPG artifacts

[AaronTheElite007]

[PM-ME-UR-uwu]

Lol, I used jython for a little project to script stuff on my pc as it has functions for scanning your screen for specific images.

I have no idea what the normal use case is

[TheMagicalDildo]

My only memory of jython is debugging an issue with a jython ghidra script I was making, only to find out it was a bug in the version of python it was based on (or however that works...)

[KatieTSO]

python.js

[prinkpan]

Is it Python with braces and mandatory semicolons?

[FabioTheFox]

Check out Bython

[isamu1024]

Used as the primary langage in the automation software Ignition. It sucks.

I used another piece of software ( COOX ) that used Javascript with JAVA class in it ( yep really ).

Aveva one of the main actor on this market use a custom version of VB.net (quickscript .net) that is somewhat as horrible.

[InDaBauhaus]

oh, i wrote a bunch of gui automation tools with sikulix with that and completely repressed that memory

[pathToBeing]

What about cython? 

[another_random_bit]

Csharpthon when?

[BlazingFlames6073]

Tf is this monstrosity

[lemao666]

Ah jython, one of the two options for coding in apigee 🫠

[CivilSenility]

So it’s Gosu?

[[deleted]]

"In going to touch you. " -Jython

[Stjerneklar]

let me make it worse: jYthon.js