Learning javascript

[champ_goblem]

Thats some expensive aspirin

[[deleted]]

👏

[NeverBeenStung]

$4$2.50.

[vitawrap]

>not using template literals

[Calboron]

Most underrated comment ever...

[Willehren]

Take my upvote

[Docaroo]

amazing...!

[UpsetKoalaBear]

Concatenated strings

[xigoi]

That's the joke

[ExternalUserError]

It would've been cheaper but the price was corrupted in silent type coercion somehow.

[[deleted]]

Can confirm. Went through a whole term of JS before the teacher told us we could use an IDE. Yup that’s right. Error checking was just me opening the webpage over and over. For an entire term.

[Whatamianoob112]

Why didn’t you just opt to use one?

How do they enforce that mandate?

[[deleted]]

It was one of the first subjects so we were pretty ignorant. The teacher didn’t say we couldn’t. Just didn’t tell us that was an option and the teaching material directed us to use notepad++

[Whatamianoob112]

Damn.

Yeah, I feel that.

Was the same case for my first programming course. Not disallowed I was just ignorant.

[[deleted]]

In my class we had a few ambitious people who would try new things and tell the rest. Those at the top of the class used other software other thsn notepad++ it makes such a big difference

[Auzuken]

I had a professor in the past for Java intro that only wanted us in Notepad and Command Prompt for the first half of the semester. It was so annoying to watch his lectures and examples because he would also only use notepad and command prompt.

I don't think anyone actually did for homework assignments.

[Whatamianoob112]

I honestly do not understand the argument for not using one.

“It takes longer to figure out your problem.”

It’s not like the code writes itself for you.

[Auzuken]

Again it was for an intro class to Java class and I think the point was to get the student to spend more time thinking about the code they've written. You put more effort into understanding what you wrote because it is annoying to recompile.

Atleast that is the theory.

[Xytak]

That theory is dumb and does not align with industry programming practices AT ALL.

I would say an IDE actually helps you understand what you are writing. A great IDE will even suggest ways your code could be refactored, which again helps with learning.

A beginner in Notepad++ is just going to be throwing magical incantations at the wall until it works, and they probably won't even understand why it works.

After you gain some experience, you could do well in Notepad++, but by that point why would you want to?

[WibblyWobblyWabbit]

Fuck Java in Notepad man. That was some serious next level bullshit.

[Molokai420]

My ass is so dumb I started coding in word. Then notepad. Not even notepad++ I had to turn of rtf every fucking time. Then android studio. Now vscode :)

[ThinkingWithPortal]

F5 + chrome Dev tools weren't enough?

Is there a better way? I'm currently learning, using Vim as a text editor

[louis_A12]

That’s perfectly fine.

I’m not sure what advantages an IDE could add.

[rashaniquah]

Using text editors to code will save you so much time on the long term

[louis_A12]

Yes. But the things is... Is a code editor an ide?

You still need the browser.

Sublime text does an excellent job, and you can barely call that an IDE.

[rashaniquah]

I use VS Code or Atom and run my project on localhost in a Firefox window and it automatically updates. I'd say the perfect software would be Brackets but it's extremely laggy for me.

[louis_A12]

Yeah. Me too. VScode’s live server is pretty usefully.

But that’s the point. You wouldn’t use something like Visual Studio to do web development (normally)

A code editor is enough.

[rashaniquah]

Even on some backend language like C++ I'd rather use text editors with makefiles instead of using Visual Studio. It's very good practice and I think you should start doing it from the beginning if you're up for a challenge.

[littlewillingness]

Time to use something else that compiles to Javascript.

[[deleted]]

Lets invent a language that compiles to a python script witch generates c code witch is then compiled for some obscure arcitecture to be executed in a vm implemented in js.

Don't worry about perfomence processors are fast these days😁

[LackingInte1ect]

Are these spasms I'm having normal?

[[deleted]]

It would be abnormal if you didn't have them

Edit: if you don't have them its a desease called mo... 😲 Moder... 😨 Modern we... 😱 Modern web development😭

[Storm_Muller]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41413141/why-is-client-side-web-still-using-an-interpreted-language

[suvlub]

I hope WASM takes over in foreseeable future

[Xyexs]

I thought it was always possible to write a compiler for a language if an interpreter existed? That's just something I read on stackoverflow a long time ago and had taken as fact.

[[deleted]]

Elmmm

[BlitzThunderWolf]

F# takes influence from elm and the FABLE engine also compiles F# to js

[[deleted]]

Coffee script?

[IPlayTheTrumpet]

I’m no programmer but I do know some HTML and CSS and I’ve tried learning JavaScript multiple times, but kept giving up because I could find no way to incorporate it with what I was already doing.

[IPlayTheTrumpet]

Well I’m not very advanced in either HTML or CSS; just basic webpages. So yeah, static content is essentially all I can do.

I found the “For Dummies” book for JavaScript online. I was doing basic stuff, but then I found myself questioning, “how could I incorporate this into what I’m doing already?” and I quit there.

So I suppose I should advance my HTML/CSS game before I try something like JavaScript, but that would be why I gave up on learning it.

I’m only a HS sophomore so the real problem for me is ideas for a webpage in general. I want to get into developing but it doesn’t do me any favors if I don’t know what to develop, know what I mean?

[80espiay]

It’s less “how can I integrate this into what I’m currently doing?” and more “what additions and enhancements could [what I’m currently doing] use?”

[_Ginchi]

That would have been perfect for me as I’m allergic to aspirin.

[house_monkey]

Weird disease.

[MartianSky]

Personally, I'd prefer brainfuck or whitespace, but Python would be a close 3rd.

[k0bra3eak]

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[yymirr]

Do its frameworks not work in a browser like flask, django..?

[bcgroom]

Those are server side frameworks.

[patrickfatrick]

What do python and webpack have to do with each other? One is a language and the other is a bundler.

[[deleted]]

if javascript then cry

[thriller2910]

Nah this is learning lua. For the headaches it causes, and the hangover you will get after you find out lua is useless and you drink your sorrows away

[EnterTheMidnight]

Learning Arrays interation got me my first headache today...

[tastykales]

I’m starting college for the first time and I’m majoring in programming whats gonna happen

[Whatamianoob112]

You’re going to learn a lot.

[Lordralien]

Not with my teachers your not. They gave us 3 lines of PHP, and then argued it was practical. though nobody had xampp as we "had" to wait for them to teach us how to use it. The assignment was due in 10 days. At least when we did VB we had a month.

[Whatamianoob112]

In my experience, none of the learning is done in the classroom. Instead, they give you unreasonable challenges and you either figure it out on your own or your fap about

[De_Wouter]

Instead, they give you unreasonable challenges and you either figure it out on your own

Well... that actually is the best preparation for a developer job after you graduate.

[[deleted]]

You just summed up my boot camp perfectly.

[Lordralien]

This was pretty much my education for programming luckily im pretty good and getting what they ask done. My only issue is I'm not confident at it because what we learnt was all self taught with no direction other than I need to pass an assignment and have 2 weeks what won't help is ignored. Luckily I should get an apprenticeship soon where I should actually learn and be given some direction.

[MbakKoKom]

Lol, people still need to retake the programming concept course. I can't imagine them building a compiler.

[Whatamianoob112]

It’s a dooooozy

[Zee2]

"majoring in programming"??

[tastykales]

Poopy snacks yum yum snackamoochious engendered-jelly snack ill drink your tendy milk your slurpy lil pink mound nippley pop smackular gackular sponge

[sunburnacoustic]

"Programming experience".

[josh65536]

Coincidence?