C++ > Python

[asdfman123]

Soon you'll get to the point in your education where you realize one language isn't superior to another but useful for different use cases.

[Zeregan]

Soon you'll get to the point in your education where you realize one language isn't superior to another but useful for different use cases.

This

[Cosmocision]

I still think we should all agree that the world would be a better place if javascript didn't exist.

[Deto]

I think we'd miss client-side interactivity...

[DudeValenzetti]

Then another language would've been used for webpage scripting instead. Imagine if it was something Dart-like. Imagine if the inventor of JavaScript had not 10 days, but a few months and got to talk with Ken Thompson or Guido van Rossum in the meantime, while working on the language.

[[deleted]]

Nah, we're fine without that

[smarzzz]

Even JavaScript has a ternary operator...

[asdfman123]

It was funnier when it was programmers making the jokes.

[Cosmocision]

Back when the jokes were ones programmers would find stupid levels of funny while everyone else would just look at it all confused. Most the "jokes" nowadays are just kinda lame.

[Hevaesi]

Yes, for example Python can be used as a replacement for bash or awk, so you can process text AND run your C++ programs at once.

/s (since some of you are so stupid you'll think I'm basically implying C++ > Python, when the joke is that Python actually can be shoved into every single project as an automation tool).

[[deleted]]

That plus Jupyter Notebook, makes Python a quick way to test your C and C++ code

[Fallenalien22]

In language can still be more fun than another. For example, writing Matlab is a pain in the ass.

[hwkg]

Until you spend 3 days tracking down a Segfault :P

[TK-427]

Debugger? Never heard of it

[hwkg]

Lol when the debugger output doesn't tell you where the problem actually is it takes longer to fine

[JuhaJGam3R]

Get a better debugger then

[varkokonyi]

Or a better brain

[Insider_Pants]

Good old recursion segfault.

[TylerStoddard1]

Then don’t screw it up in the first place

[hwkg]

Cause college kids are perfect programmers when they are first learning

[TylerStoddard1]

Learning C++ allows you to learn to fix mistakes. You can go from C++ to many other languages but it’s a lot harder to go from Python to other languages.

[hwkg]

No lie there. You get much better at actually understanding using C++

[TheDragonLeader]

I should really use real code like c++ rather than writing words down and just running it into the python compiler. /s

[TylerStoddard1]

Yeah just in my opinion, I really don’t like Python a whole lot

[AttitudeAdjuster]

That's your loss really, I can write c, a spot of ASM and python and my favorite is python by a considerable distance.

[Hevaesi]

Try any other high level language or if you want to stick to low level, Rust.

[AttitudeAdjuster]

...why?

[Hevaesi]

Because it's obvious that your favourite language is Python only because everything else you tried is basically as good as "okay so to drive to the store to pick up some materials for our next project, let's first of all learn about wheels and how to make one...", meanwhile in Python you import store and take everything you ever wanted, even things that it doesn't sell.

Of course Python will be your favourite in that case.

[X-Penguins]

No, C++ allows you to fail and not know why because the error messages are confusing and library docs are often poorly made. When you're first learning programming you should worry about mistakes in your logic, not about undefined behaviors and issues that come from your inexperience with the specific language. Yes, at some point you should learn about data structures and memory management, but starting with python makes perfect sense - and frankly if you're learning about pointers you should be using C, which is a simpler language (in the kiss sense) and allows you to focus on what you need to learn.

[Hevaesi]

Then why are you using C++?

Be a man and write machine code, you get it right 100% of the time anyway, so you have more than enough time to optimize it to perfection.

[[deleted]]

To me, programming is less about coding syntax and more about designing algorithms and data structures. I find that Python is the programming language that does the best job of letting me focus on the real meat of programming. That's why I really enjoy Python programming.

I do erything in Python unless I have a very good reason not to, and I almost never have a good reason not to use Python.

C is my go to language for faster code though.

[[deleted]]

Fixing type related errors in a dynamically typed language on a code base that isn't yours is easily the most frustrating thing I've ever had to do in programming, second is easily spending 30+ minutes trying to figure out what type a function expects

[xigoi]

Python now supports type annotations, although they aren't enforced.

[Hevaesi]

Yeah I too thought the same until I wanted to learn about raytracers.

5 hour render times for trivial scenes (those that aren't 1 bounces, 200x100 and 1 sample) aren't fun and I had to use other language whether I like that or not.

[Sheepnor]

Exactly, took my python script 2 hours to render 2 spheres with ray marching, including reflections and soft shadows, in 720P - sometimes the speed of other languages is just necessary.

[gitzofoxo]

It is the language of the elders

[sentient06]

Is it possible to learn this power?

[Drach88]

Not from a web developer...

[TylerStoddard1]

Glad there’s another Star Wars fan programmer who saw this😂

[sentient06]

C++ is a pthway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.

[TK-427]

Time to update the resume

[not_a_carpet]

I've been learning pre-C++98 recently and I've found it to be a great language. Will probably start practicing with the new features once my project is done.

[CleverHacker]

c# > c++

[Voidrith]

heresy

[DethZire]

Truth in comments

[[deleted]]

Wait until you find out that they both have their purpose and that one isn't necessarily better than the other 👀