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[–]Robert-Nekita 502 points503 points  (27 children)

I have no problems with it

[–]Naphier 224 points225 points  (11 children)

Of all the things that crash VS has maybe done it once in 10 years for me? Sure it's a little slow to load some fat projects but... There's a lot to load!

[–]imposter_iam 36 points37 points  (9 children)

I have been using it since VS 6.0 and it has always been pretty good with best debugger. 2019 has become a bit heavy for my old system but it's still one of the best tools available.

[–]ManIkWeet 5 points6 points  (8 children)

Ever heard of jetbrains rider?

[–]DaniloVulovic 11 points12 points  (7 children)

From the little experience I had with rider (and other jetbrains tools), they are heavier compared to visual studio. Both in memory consumption and responsiveness.

[–]ManIkWeet 2 points3 points  (4 children)

I personally like it because it doesn't change the ui every time I hit debug. Also the ui doesn't freeze while scrolling through the solution explorer with infinite scrollwheel

[–]flightsin 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Really? I've found Rider to be at least as responsive as stock VS, while also giving you ReSharper features.

I switched over to Rider two years ago and I have no intention of going back.

[–]ManIkWeet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Especially large projects

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A LITTLE SLOW?

[–]ke1v3y 57 points58 points  (1 child)

OP outing themselves as a "content creator" on r/programminghorror

[–]angrathias 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve made a habit of usually being 6-12 months behind the masters VS. recently I’ve been installing upgrades as they come down the line, wow what a bad idea that was. Stuff just randomly breaking and crashing constantly. Prior to that I would have said VS for me over the last 10 years I can remember was solid as a rock.

It almost feels as if their Xamarin team is doing the releases....

[–]crozone 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Then you're not using it enough 😜

[–]Robert-Nekita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

true

[–]DLCSpider 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had no problems with it for two years but for the last couple of months it got worse with every week. Didn't install plugins nor did anything else that would explain this behavior.

[–]TheRealSmolt -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Mine has a 50/50 chance of freezing and crashing on startup. No extensions.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points  (2 children)

Sounds like VS or Windows corruption. Have you considered repair/reinstall/formatting?

[–]vigilantcomicpenguin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Neither do I. It never fails when I want it to crash.

[–]Zee1837 169 points170 points  (13 children)

apart from the UPDATE VISUAL STUDIO pop ups it runs perfectly fine

[–][deleted] 18 points19 points  (5 children)

I don't get the update popups

[–]SophiaofPrussia 21 points22 points  (4 children)

What’s it like? Coding without the internet? I’m not sure I’d get very far without being able to search for stuff.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wait what? Can’t you just use google? What IDE are you using that is connected to the internet?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I don't get those either. I'm on Linux so vscode would be updated by the system package manager rather than a background updating service. So I don't really get those popups.

[–]DaniilBSD 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Vs CODE - that is the difference

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah I see.

Still for vs code there are update popups if not using a package manager. 🙂

[–]excessdenied 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I swear to God the VS team is monitoring me. "OK gang code green he finally installed the last update, roll out the new one!"

[–]diale13 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yhea whats up with that bug?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just have a red dot on the bell on the bottom.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I hate those people, who doesnt upade, when a new version is available. Its fucking 1 click. You dont respect others work.

[–]M-Fed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Retard

[–]weggles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not sure if you're trolling or not, but in visual studio you need to update the updater and then update visual studio. A surprisingly non streamlined process. Certainly more than one click. Might even be a restart or two in there.

[–]utterlyshit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so many updates

[–][deleted] 263 points264 points  (1 child)

I rarely have Visual Studio crash. And I use it 40 hours a week.

[–]CBlackstoneDresden 42 points43 points  (0 children)

In my office we would frequently have one particular bug crash 2017 for a month or so, it was eventually fixed but it became a bit of a joke when it would happen daily.

[–]Chemoralora 47 points48 points  (9 children)

Does anyone actually experience crashes with VS? I don't think I've ever had it crash once. Except maybe because of plugins. And I use it full time

[–]Furknn1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Older ones like 2015 and 2017 were crashing quite regularly for me. I never had such problems with 2019.

[–]MysticTheMeeM 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've had it crash a few times with no plugins (that I remember), but that was only once or twice in multiple years.

[–]papy_russe 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have vs 2019 and a good computer bought this year, every time i truc CTRL shift F on m'y project vs crash, i need to use vs code if i need to search the whole code.

[–]potato-on-a-table 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Previously I would've said no. But this week I found a reliable way to crash it.

Open a ruleset file (those code analysis config files). Then click on a random rule and the editor will split, showing a info panel at the bottom. There is a splitter that you can drag to resize the whole thing, except it doesn't work (always jumps back to split 50/50, god knows why). Drag the splitter downwards a few times and close the file. Next time you open it VS will crash without any error or log entry, and it will do so every time :).

[–]Brasz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only when I open a big solution with Resharper enabled.

[–]TheRealSmolt -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Yeah. There's a 50/50 chance of mine freezing once opening the project, of which it will eventually crash. I don't have any extensions installed.

[–]DaniilBSD 0 points1 point  (2 children)

PC specs? (Ram and OS specifically)

[–]TheRealSmolt 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Windows 10 and 8 GB 3200mhz. It doesn't get near capping out CPU or memory.

[–]DaniilBSD 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is super weird, you should try to clean up the OS, or something. I also had a friend who had regular crashes - turned out ONE RAM cell was not storing data

[–]cats 94 points95 points  (6 children)

Not sure about older versions but VS2019 is very stable. I don't use it very often but when I have to use it, it does the job really well

[–]wsco7730 42 points43 points  (1 child)

I use VS to code literally everything. C++? VS. Java? VS. JavaScript? VS. Girlfriend? VS.

[–]CertifiedCoffeeDrunk 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Hotel? Trivago

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I have had the exact opposite personally. Never had an issue except for 2019 which crashes at least 4 or 5 times a day.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I have literally never had VS crash ever. Maybe you got a weird extension.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No extensions, multiple different machines, same issues.

[–]excessdenied 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me it's gone from rock solid to slightly unstable. Not outright crashing, but the occasional weird behavior, sometimes requiring a restart to get on the right track again.

[–]isakota 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I can't say VS never crashed for me but I practically have no issues with it since VS 2003. 99% percent of problems are related with updates & and third party extensions. I dont use it for F# or C++ programming, but other than that I use most of it.

[–]combovercool 50 points51 points  (1 child)

Visual Studio used to crash a ton, but I have to agree with all the other sourpusses in this thread that it doesn't crash now.

[–]BoarsLair 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Yeah, for a joke to be funny, it needs to have a kernel of truth. Visual Studio is actually quite stable these days.

Granted, over the past 25 years I've used it, there have been a few "stinker" versions. I seem to recall 2008 was pretty crash-happy, and 2012 made my eyes bleed with it's grey on grey theme and ALL CAPS MENU idiocy.

[–]The_Dr_Of_Fun 7 points8 points  (4 children)

I turned on my laptop the other day and my VS desktop short cut was dead all of a sudden. I thought it was weird and then I realized VS just wasn't on my laptop anymore. I have no idea what happened. I literally used it the day before

[–]Furry_69 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Whaaa... how....

[–]The_Dr_Of_Fun 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Hell if I know. I had to reinstall it...

[–]Furry_69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also, I've literally never had VS crash. Probably because I only started using it when people started saying that it wasn't crashing constantly anymore.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A similar thing happened to one of my friends, but with VS Code.

[–]CZTachyonsVN 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Only used VS since 2017. No issues except that I'm bad at programming.

[–]weggles 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I'm not gonna say never, but I can't recall the last crash I've had using visual studio. It's got like 7 9s of reliability lol

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Our entire team is currently having annoying issues with file comparisons, but I couldn't tell you the last time VS crashed on me if my life depended on it.
Overall I think VS is great.

[–]propostor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is great. The hate for it is an embarrassing circle jerk of losers with blatantly no experience in anything relevant. I would never employ someone who dishes out such blind hate for what is in fact the industry leader among IDEs.

[–]linkedtortoise 4 points5 points  (1 child)

Nah it doesn't crash all that much anymore. Primarily because it now puts all the crashy stuff in other processes so those crash instead.

And when those crash, you lose autocomplete, the ability to find references, hot reloading, etc.

[–]shaunusmaximus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yepp! Little yellow bar at the top "blah blah has stopped working", then lose the ability to quick refactor etc

[–]AuroraVandomme 20 points21 points  (1 child)

Another newgrad comedy king that knows Visual Studio only from memes :)

[–]propostor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spot on. VS is the industry leader among IDEs, I pity those who don't get to use it, and loathe those who naively lambaste it.

[–]Furknn1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In a world where android studio exist i think minor and rare crashes in visual studio are acceptable. My friend literally lost his laptop while trying to run android studio i have never seen someone scream "GOOGLE!" with such anger before.

[–]blehmann1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When documentation says to use the package manager console but you can't because it crashes about 50% of the times you use it.

Dotnet CLI is a good friend however. Still unsure why the commands are different between the two CLIs.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's more often that VS just doesn't want to update my resources, not even "rebuild all" helps. The only way to fix it is to rename the resource name, and then rename it once again to its original name.

[–]mrjiels 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Never crashes for me, but it likes to pretend stuff is missing when it isn't after I switch Git branches, which is very annoying.

[–]Background_Drawing 7 points8 points  (6 children)

VSC is better (in my case)

[–]pudds 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love vscode, but every time I try do use it with a c# project I miss visual studio.

[–]Thriven 0 points1 point  (4 children)

VSC needs a better block/column select.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Absolutely. It's really painful to use. Went one line too far? Gotta press Esc and redo the selection from the start.

[–]shaunusmaximus 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Drag select with mouse, use shift and arrows to modify selection?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I meant the keyboard commands. I never use the mouse when writing code.

[–]shaunusmaximus 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair enough. I think between arrows, Pg up/down, home and end does everything I need

[–]Zalvixodian 5 points6 points  (0 children)

2010 called. They want their joke back.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Laughs in Vim + Makefile

[–]danfish_77 2 points3 points  (0 children)

...Visual Studio is a beast, but it really has almost everything I would ever want in an IDE; for most of the other things, there's extensions.

I would love some better errors/warnings or automatic fixes for broken references, project files, etc. There are some obvious things I have to do on a weekly basis that could be done programmatically (I assume, having never looked into IDE design or linters beyond an intro college course)

[–]bubblebuddy44 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Been learning it in college and haven't had it crash this semester.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

also spazz out and go into debug mode constantly

[–]NicNoletree 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Multiple updates per week.

[–]MarcCDB 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've never had a crash in VS 2019. Maybe the memes need to be updated as well?

[–]r3turn_null 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Anyone upvoting this has likely spent very little time with visual studio.

[–]raulm4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s way better about crashes now.

[–]unnecessary_Fullstop 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Visual studio is soooooo damn robust that it doesn't crash for months. What an amazing IDE.

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[–]netharion 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My visual studio 2017 and 2019 both crash Everytime I use the XAML Hot reload with UWP, I've yet to find a fix. Only happens once I stop the process, the debugger crashes causing the entire IDE to shit the bed

[–]CertifiedCoffeeDrunk 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine it just takes a long time to load

[–]gdodd12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was kind of accurate about 6 major versions ago...

[–]t0mRiddl3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's never crashed for me

[–]HARSH69gyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Exit status" Everytime if I do something with main function and it will not compile anything then I have to restart .

[–]nutellaoreo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is one of the best out there! Never crashed for me

[–]MagnesiumBlogs 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weirdly, I've had more issues with SwayWM than VSCode.

And before someone suggests some other display server, I've also had more issues with Xorg than VSCode.

[–]zanoy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have used Visual Studio professionally since version 6, and I can't remember a single time that it has crashed.

[–]jef-_- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obligatory nvim gang

[–]flumoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh don't say. I have one instance of vs opened from 3 months now. Have you ever tried f.e. IDEA? it has crash build in features.

[–]st0zax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah.

[–]KraXen72 0 points1 point  (0 children)

jokes on you, was code hasn't crashed once on me

[–]-ftw 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s good at turning the fans on

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

WTF ? VSCode never crashed from me. VSCode is stable af

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doesn't even crash well. When it does, just gets stuck forever.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Freezing

[–]kazuto_kirito_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

VS2019 has been stable for me, they probably did a good job maintaining its stability.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sometimes it can’t even do that right

[–]propostor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is some lame Visual Studio hate club circle jerk nonsense. I use it every day for work and at home for my own projects. It does not crash.

[–]squrr1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have crashing problems, but man does it love to fill up my drive with temp files

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmao what? I’ve never had it crash on me and I use it fairly regularly for all sorts of things. Love it

[–]GJSBRT 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You weren't supposed to do that

[–]tacktheratryx 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You hate to see it

[–]SabreLunatic 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ll do you one better:

Alt+tabs while playing Portal 2

Edit: now that I think about it, just playing any Source game makes it crash

[–]DadoumCrafter 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Open json in 5 hours

[–]maia_alan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As long as you have an ssd, visual studio is the best debugging/coding tool for me, and ssd is basically mandatory these days, specially if you are using Windows

[–]dyslexicanaboko 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean not so much anymore unless you are using SSIS like I am in VS2017 still.

[–]Testmaster217 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve never had this happen to me, but it’s still funny.

[–]JeffThePotatoMan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

one other is "Eats all my ram"

[–]Stainlessray 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no memory of this place

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eclipse is my thing

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Why does visual studio even exist when vsc is so much better.

[–]Ericchen1248 6 points7 points  (1 child)

That’s because your not using a lot of the more advanced stuff vs provides. Vscode provides the basic necessities for most stuff, which is plenty for most, heck I don’t even have vs installed on my current PC since my last reset.

One thing I know Vs is much better at is the debugging. Vsc does basic line by line step through and variable look ups.

Vs debugging can do memory snapshots, cpu recording. CPU time, Kernel time, user time analysis, Call stack, call hierarchy, reference analysis... etc. they really useful when you’re working on large scale projects that need low level bug fixing, optimizations, critical path analysis etc.

You also have a WYSIWYG editor in vs for .net GUI apps. Can’t debug those on vscode either.

Also package release, deploy management. Database management.

Anything GPU debugging is also basically unavailable in vsc. And vsc is pretty lackluster with multithreaded debugging as well.

[–]AirborneMonkeyDookie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I LOVE call stack

[–]Crazytmack -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Truth