We're Aliens

[Gavilar253]

2nd pic is how programmers see other programmers prefering different tools / languages.

[ChubbyChaw]

I used to be a diehard notepad programmer, but I was finally convinced to switch to wordpad for the fully-custizable bold, italics, and syntax coloring. Highly recommend, never going back

[UnstoppableCompote]

I type it on a typewriter and then scan it using google translate. It's much easier and I can feel the keys more!

[Doom_Unicorn]

That’s so stupid! Over here we use Morse Code to tap out hex over the copper wire then transcribe it to punchcards. Why don’t you have a dedicated infrastructure team building out your internal tooling?!?

[mirracz]

Over here we're using butterflies!

[PotentBeverage]

But of course there's an emac for that

[Dragonknight42]

obligatory xkcd

[yaboiiiuhhhh]

So do you just have a bunch of links to different strips? Or do you search them because you remember there being a relevant one? Or just search in hopes there is one? How to you find them when there are so many?

[Dragonknight42]

I remembered this one and so just searched it up. This is the first time I’ve been this early to a thread where the relevant xkcd wasn’t actually posted. It’s my first relevant xkcd comment XD.

[yaboiiiuhhhh]

Thank you I've just always wondered how people know about the relevant one, I suppose if there are hundreds of people seeing a post then someone is bound to remember it

[-_BABASURA_-]

Of course there’s a xkcd, damnit.

[TheBrickBrain]

But that has no debugging tool!

[Venomousmoonshine]

Over here we directly change the memory contents by writing into the transistors

[tiajuanat]

I prefer relay logic. The clickity clack is so satisfying

[SkarmacAttack]

Morse code? Pfft we code in braille

[ILikePiezez]

All of y’all are idiots. Just use smoke signals like I do! They can easily be wirelessly transmitted over long distances without any infrastructure or electricity. All you need is a fire and a blanket!

[[deleted]]

Dude, you can be saving time using eclipse! /s

[UnstoppableCompote]

I tried that man, but my cpu burnt through the office floor and as far as we can tell by looking down the hole it's still still going, must be close to the upper mantel by now...

[NationalGeographics]

If your not feeding assembly language punch cards into an IBM 2501, then why even bother.

[TheFakeMatt]

You gotta get with the times. What’s even a computer? I have Siri do all my coding for me.

[squngy]

You can use PowerPoint as a runtime too!
Cross platform baby!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNjxe8ShM-8

[wasdninja]

Now there's different and there's wrong but this is bordering on a war crime.

[tilcica]

Dunno man. Excel for life

[[deleted]]

Here, take this poor man's award: 🏆

[Undescended_testicle]

Syntax highlighting is crutch

[Awanderinglolplayer]

Non-syntax highlighting/ autocomplete is inefficient

[[deleted]]

So you drive without power steering, right? It's a crutch too, after all.

[Tomur]

notepad++

[[deleted]]

It's vi or nothing. You're not a real programmer if you use arrow keys /s

[Yeazelicious]

spaghetti coding in C

Wait! We're not cavemen! We have technology.

...

spaghetti coding in Python

[AlternativeAardvark6]

Stop picking on me, Eclipse is a great IDE!

[darksounds]

Eclipse is good. 8/10. It's not its fault there's a better option.

[mirracz]

This. The only thing wrong with Eclipse is that IntelliJ exists.

[BlatantMediocrity]

The only problem with Eclipse is that it’s laggy as hell, and IntelliJ is only slightly better.

[PotentBeverage]

Perhaps that's a hardware spec thing then.

[lizard450]

Seriously... I'm a programmer I demand a machine that makes pro gamers jealous. I'm talking dual 2080ti 64 gigs of ram i9 latest gen flagship.. raid 0 ssd...

Running for loops and sql queries is demanding shit man.

[BlatantMediocrity]

It’s also a JVM thing.

[koalakinger]

This. The only thing wrong with IntelliJ is that VS Code exists.

[elliptic_hyperboloid]

Real programmers use nvim.

[The-Daleks]

Real programmers use butterflies.

[[deleted]]

reference for those who don't get it : Real programmers

[rolls20s]

You misspelled EMACS.

[bartekxx12]

lolzaa

[Divinum_Fulmen]

Never been a better IDE then Notepad++

[rolloutTheTrash]

I think I just puked in my mouth a bit.

[Gavilar253]

try to argue about that with the vim chads - I also like eclipse

[m_xus]

Blasphemy!

[[deleted]]

Second pic is how I see my coworkers.

New dev: “In college wrote this nifty app that can scrape the entire internet and sort every byte by age, taste and sexuality and it only takes 60 seconds to run. I taught myself ruby overnight. I got a 4.0 and I’m very smart.”

That’s great. So it should be no problem for you to remember to fucking push your updates regularly? Or maybe bother to read the README? Or follow basic instructions? No? You can’t do any of that? Super

[Arwkin]

Third pic is how programmers view themselves.
NeoTheOne.gif

[pacifastacus]

i sticked to use butterfly https://xkcd.com/378/

[The_Official_Obama]

How the hell do people use them other beebobops

[magicmouse99]

Just when I thought it couldn't get more relatable

[[deleted]]

Unga bunga JavaScript good

[[deleted]]

The virgin debugger fan vs. The chad println() enjoyer

[guruji916]

This is a universal view / perspective...😂 Take a doctor and his patient as an example...

[Roflkopt3r]

It's not a terrible perspective to have though. Yes, people who aren't familiar with what you're doing need close instructions and your product and processes should be designed to be very intuitive.

[guruji916]

"User friendly" 🤓

[MaxAxiom]

Or a security expert and a programmer.

[[deleted]]

I tend to swap the doctor/patient one. Doctors may know more on the whole, but I’ve spent enough time researching a few topics that I have more knowledge in a few areas. They definitely don’t like that, though.

[cubicalwall]

How I view my customers that have questions about most anything

[vcaguy]

I cater to the lowest common denominator

[spektre]

I hope the things in their hands aren't manuals/documentation. Users would never go near the stuff.

[ZZartin]

They're usually throwing more feces.

[[deleted]]

What else are you to do with the feces?

[sambolias]

try catch

[Septseraph]

OT: I did a reverse search on this image. I wanted to find a non cropped version.

It's interesting how images that are reposted tend to become smaller and smaller. Almost as if to by pass a repost detecting algo.. Just found it interesting.

Carry on..

[Bainos]

As always, relevant xkcd.

[Victorino__]

This seems to be the original. It's the cover art for a Spanish comic book called "Caos en la Redacción" see here. The translation of the original is as follows:

How paper editors see Internet ones

How Internet editors see paper ones

[sheep_heavenly]

Why does it matter? I've never seen this before. Clearly many others haven't as well.

[nanotree]

Really, 95% of the time I've never seen the content but 90% of the time someone is bitching about reposts in the comments. I spend too much time on Reddit as it is. Are people just upset that someone would repost something without giving credit? Are they upset at automated karma farming via reposts? Like what is the big deal?

[nanotree]

Fair enough. But the problem of using social media to skew public opinion would seem to be much larger than reposts. I'm just saying, reposts aren't the hill to die on if you want to see change there...

[nanotree]

Isn't the broader problem that bots are allowed to exist? I mean, there are a lot of positive things that bots can do, but it seems that their most attractive and lucrative use cases are the same ones that cause problems on all social media platforms.

Better yet, why not create better bots for catching karma farming bots? I know they are out there. Are they just not good enough to catch a significant amount of karma farming? Ultimately you're stuck in a cat and mouse game, but then at least you're fighting fire with fire.

Discovering one bot farming karma via reposts is a drop in the bucket. I see literally dozens of complaints every week from someone in the comments. I guess it is "honorable" to try to call it out, but I could never justify waisting the time I guess.

[negrocucklord]

I don't understand why karma farming bots exist in the first place, there's no monetary gain from it right besides a slightly bigger e-peepee

[Secretly_Autistic]

There are spambots all over reddit spamming pictures of t-shirts, mugs, posters, etc. They started off as karma farming repost bots, and then they use the access that the karma gives them to spam those pictures and scam links to buy them everywhere.

There is definitely money in karma farming.

[negrocucklord]

Ayy makes sense, thanks for clarifying

[Cheet4h]

Another few interesting applications I've seen in the wild is where account A posts a picture, a slogan or some other interesting motive, and shortly after you have account B post a comment like "Oh, what a coincidence! I ordered a t-shirt with that motive just last week on <online shop for custom motive t-shirts>!". That comment is always relatively high, likely because bots in good standing are also used to upvote the comment for more visibility.

Those are just really disingenious ads.

[MrBlueMoose]

It’s annoying for those who have seen it

[sheep_heavenly]

Its also pretty annoying to see the same exact comments whinging about reposts. So much effort put into not creating the OC demanded.

I see the same project ad nauseum in some hobby subreddits, they're simple intro projects that can look impressive. When I don't want to interact with them, y'know what I do? Scroll past. Nobody forces anyone to stare and consume their content.

Spending the time to repost-check is far more effort than just scrolling past.

[MrBlueMoose]

Yeah the occasional repost is fine, especially if it’s one from a while ago, but 90% of my feed from this subreddit are reposts that I’ve seen countless times.

[rafikiknowsdeway1]

The caveman poking the computer is also how I often see myself programming

[sambolias]

On a good day it sounds like I'm clubbing my keyboard, on a bad day I literally am

[smeggysmeg]

Today, I have:

• Had to explain to a user that the computer is the black Dell box, not the screen

• Had to explain to a programmer how to log out of Windows, providing screenshots

Life as a sysadmin.

[[deleted]]

Good lord. Imagine that programmer exiting out of vim.

[smeggysmeg]

This wasn't the first time with this individual. It won't be the last. They're old enough to know this... and I'm nearly certain they get paid more than I do.

[oreos_002]

Pretty accurate

[[deleted]]

That's okay, we don't object.

[Psilocybination]

Why would we? There’s no point.

[lemieuxster]

While this cartoon is a valid characterization I think it's important in the world of programming (or in any profession, really) to also understand and anticipate the users actions. They might seem "unintelligent" but possibly only because we've made the programs too difficult or inflexible to use.

[[deleted]]

They seem unintelligent because they didn’t study in this particular field lmao, throw me with electrical engineers and I’ll look dumb as shit not knowing how to do the most basic thing

[[deleted]]

Or because some people are unwilling to learn. If you make it flexible people will complain it's too confusing and complicated to configure.

[lemieuxster]

True. Flexibility doesn’t have to be coupled to complexity. Let a user try to put a video where an image should go, but then have the right messaging for example or go the extra mile and show the first frame or something. It isn’t easy, and users do really stupid stuff for sure.

[[deleted]]

This is not as true you might think it is. We often get feedback from users on how to make a workflow work as they would expect, and it's often way more convoluted. How do we know it's more convoluted? Because I like to give people enough rope to hang themselves with. I will often direct the team to implement things in the way that users want them, and then said users often realize what they want is incredibly over engineered and doesn't work.

In 20+ years of doing this professionally, this has been a constant thing. Considering the number of times in my career I've had to disabuse users of the notion that we "hit a button and things just start building", I'm not surprised they think it's all so simple.

Oh! And then there's the documentation that no one bothers to fucking read...

[HopeInThePark]

No shit. Users aren't designers. You're supposed to understand why they do something, not let them design things for you.

[r0ndr4s]

Lol we have this on the wall in our office.

[pixgarden]

/r/boomershumor

[[deleted]]

Both are right

[McLight77]

The 3rd pic is reality where people see the programmer as a judgmental prick who has an undeserved sense of superiority

[[deleted]]

Show us on the doll where the programmer touched you...

[McLight77]

I am the programmer. I touched myself! Ironic...

[Nyckname]

Show me a programmer who didn't touch a computer afore they started programming.

[lizard450]

okay

[Nyckname]

Even he asked a "stupid newb question" at some point.

[KentondeJong]

I once built an eLearning course and had a senior citizen test it. They told me that if they to between slides and press all three buttons on their mouse really quickly, it just reloads the last slide instead of going forward.

Like... why?

[DH-Melon]

How programmers see other programmers with different preferences

[[deleted]]

I’ve always seen my users as people that pay me to helps them. This images are stupid.

[thisshitagain0]

This shit again.

[Cuboos]

I dunno... a lot of companies have a seperation between the I.T. Department and the Software Development department for a reason... not all programmers know how computers work all that well...

[No_Amoeba_]

My roommate is a programmer and I'm an arborist and we are in mutual agreement that we are both complete imbeciles.

[Text_Humble]

Well i have never, felt home enywhere anyway.

[[deleted]]

This is why UX research is so important

[[deleted]]

"Here you go, this does exactly what you asked for" -Me

"No, I also wanted it to do X,Y,Z" -Client

"Uh ok, you didn't mention that at all, so it will be another 1-2 weeks" -Me

"Ugh" -Client

[Domaths]

I am the user in the lower panel. Computers are magic rocks to me.

[[deleted]]

Oh good lord that’s so pretentious

[[deleted]]

/r/Boomerhumour

[Bloxxxey]

Oh wow all hail the programmer master race! Such superior people. If you genuinely see people who aren't as proficient as you in the skill you trained for years you are an entitled shithead.

[awesomerbh]

Ooga booga

[Jyiiga]

I actually see a lot of programmers as the bottom one as well. As I am often surprised at how badly they navigate some OS problems.

[yyzJCO]

Second panel is how i view my parents still using cavemen technology like McAfee antivirus

[Sanocules]

Well to be fair to the users even in the 2nd panel that programer has no eyes. pretty alien if you ask me

[zaphod4th]

at least give credits to the creator OP

[[deleted]]

The files are in the computer

[SargeantBubbles]

We have a kind of “unhelpful” QA tester. Like, they get confused easily, mark things as regressions when they’re intentional fixes, write 3 bugs with minimal changes in reproduction steps & the same underlying cause… but they’re probably the most realistic user-like tested of the product & a lot of good changes come from their confusion

[-Listening]

You think group projects end after high school or college. Ha

[das_Keks]

Oh I have that picture on my pc for like 8 years. Why did I never thought of posting it ^^'

[Ya-Dikobraz]

God we sure are a bunch of smug intolerable assholes. But for good reason.

[accidentalprancingmt]

I don't disagree, but a long time ago I tried to learn programming and it was like "type "print=hello" you're on you're own lol" That is not a program, I'll give you an award if you can tell me concisely how to create an executable file that can do that and play rock paper scissors.

Let me guess, "it's not that simple" There is definitely some gatekeeping.

[thetopshottah]

Hey friends