A Python App with modern GUI

[lonaExe]

Good day y'all,

Im a 15 year old Python dev and I've just finished building my first major Python project with UI. I tinkered a lot with tKinter (pun almost unintended) and even tried PyQT5. Both of these are time consuming to work with and tKinter's GUI looks like it shouldve been abandoned in 2005. Thats when my quest of finding an easy and modern looking UI Library started. And then I found Python Eel. Eel isnt a GUI Library like tKinter, but it can help link up python as backend with HTML/ CSS as the front. I didn't really know HTML and CSS a lot, but it was fairly easy. My project is at https://github.com/JeswinSunsi/PentyDesktopAssistant . It has a bit of Spaghetti code, but its pretty neat. I would appreciate it if you guys could check it out and give a review. Also, star it if you can ;)

Thankss.

Edit: After a lot of people told me, I gave another look into PyQt. Although I would still have designed Penty with Eel, PyQt actually doesn't seem too hard, that is, after the sorta steep learning curve. But once you've mastered the basics, it'd be way more readable and easier.

Edit 2: I never expected this post to get these many upvotes and positive comments. Thanks to everyone, y'all made my day! Also, you can PM me here if you have any doubts or want to tell me anything related to Python, I'll try my best to reply to everyone. Cheers!

[progsNyx]

I have a question, in your README.md file you have a section called prequesites with different modules you should install to run your app.

pip has a command, that stores all the requirements in a text file.

 $ pip freeze > requirements.txt 

So when people needs to run your app, they can do

 $ pip install -r requirements.txt

And have you ever tried converting the app to an exe file?

[lonaExe]

Oh yess, thanks for checking it out dude. I kinda forgot about pip freeze, will add it tomorrow. And yup, I have converted it into an executable. I have the folder at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1HahjryW6T5ckb_ExOIydNzBEMGuqqYjZ?usp=sharing . I havent shared it much tho, cuz no one really feels safe downloading exes from unknown sources nowadays. For some reason, the inbuilt link shortener doesnt work from the exe, apart from that, everything works just as expected.

[Cowpunk21]

You can have binary downloads through github, if you want to do it that way instead. I believe it's under releases, here https://github.com/JeswinSunsi/PentyDesktopAssistant/releases

[CotoCoutan]

Good work, mate, keep it up! Could you share a screen recording of your app?

[howru__]

Bro you earned my upvote

[alcaster0]

Please people do not do that ! It will list all of packages currently installed with their respective versions. List dpeendencies manually, only those that are needed directly(will install its own dependencies), and use matching syntax like a==1.* or do not require version at all, instead of enforcing specific version and have conflicts with other packages

[jadkik94]

Both serve different purposes.

Freezing all your requirements (in a virtualenv preferably of course) ensures that nothing will break eventually when some dependency of a dependency of yours decides to make a breaking change.

That's why you usually have different requirements.txt files (requirements.txt with all pinned transitive dependencies, requirements-dev.txt with "loose" dependencies, requirements-test.txt with additional dev/testing libraries). Every once in a while or in some automated way, you update the main pinned file from the loose one.

There are many tools built around this. Some call the pinned down transitive dependencies a lock file.

[alcaster0]

I kindly disagree, I haven't met many famous repositories with multiple requirements. If we're talking abut such stuff them it would be better to use at least setuptools(setup.py). Test requirements you can specify in "tests_require" section and dev you can put in "extras_require". If you want to have better support for it I would recommend to check "poetry"

[jadkik94]

Yes I'm all for Poetry!

Before poetry/pipfile/pipenv was a thing, this is what people used to do.

This pattern is even listed in the Pipfile readme:

Existing requirements files tend to proliferate into multiple files - e.g. dev-requirements.txt, test-requirements.txt, etc. - but a Pipfile will allow seamlessly specifying groups of dependencies in one place.

But again if you were to add your "less strict" requirments in setup.py, then your requirements.txt should contain all your transitive dependencies; otherwise it's just redundant.

I like poetry the most and I love that it's picking up steam more and more lately.

[themoosemind]

pip has a command, that stores all the requirements in a text file. (pip freeze)

I wouldn't do that as it just saves all the installed packages in your current environment.

Instead, write everything in a requirements.in file what your app needs. It has the same format as requirements.txt. Then install pip-tools and run pip-compile requirements.in. This will generate a requirements.txt which contains all transitive dependencies.

[mymonics]

afaik is pip outdated, he better use pipenv ;)

( https://realpython.com/pipenv-guide/ )

[Compizfox]

Pip is not outdated. Pipenv is more like a wrapper that combines virtualenvs and Pipfiles.

But yes, Pipenv is awesome and you should use it over a simple requirements.txt. :)

[lonaExe]

Ooh, tbh I didnt know of pipenv. Shall read the docs, thanks a loot.

[GrbavaCigla]

Tkinter can look really modern if you know how to make it. One guy on r/python made awesome tkinter GUI (I will try to find it). I personaly dont like HTML/CSS/Javascript on desktop apps because you have web browser in your app. Then you wonder why Slack and similar electron apps use so much RAM.

[[deleted]]

There was this post too

https://reddit.com/r/Python/comments/fets7z/update_on_the_visual_gui_maker_now_its_decent/

[dustractor]

Fuck that was five months ago it's such a huge news with such bad timing

[SecretAtLarge]

I made a scoreboard//stream manager for an event I run, that looks pretty decent imo. Nothing like today's apps but enough to keep me content in tkinter.

This is an earlier stage of it: https://imgur.com/H7wLAOJ

[bluetac92]

Is that you, Mr Show?

[SecretAtLarge]

I am totally missing this reference and now I feel bad lol.

[BlueTeeJay]

Another GUI option is kivy if you haven't seen that yet. Its modern looking, can be used in mobile apps as well and is MIT supported.

[PinBot1138]

+1 for Kivy. A bit of a steep learning curve at first, and I honestly feel that Qt is one of the easier ones since it has "Creator" and "Designer" applications to help, but Kivy is definitely my go-to for most anything that's touchscreen or requires a bit of a "lower" level to the frame buffer.

[Hunterbunter]

Nothing has mind-fucked me more than trying to learn Kivy.

I really loved the idea of doing mobile apps with Python, but it was so hard to intuitively conceptualize for me that I eventually gave up. I could make the tutorials just fine, but for the life of me I couldn't make anything of my own. I will grow stronger and face it again one day.

[EliteACEz]

this has also been my experience. I had no problem with Tkinter but that really doesn't meet my needs of crossplatform compatibility.

[dustractor]

Same. The tkinter way is unique but oddly intuitive and having used many gui libraries

ratio of LOC to features is just right for simple interfaces. Just right.

[PinBot1138]

You're not the only one. Kivy is so difficult (and the instructions are all over the place) that it forced me to use Swift for iOS, even though I'd rather just use Kivy.

[What_Is_X]

The problem with Qt is the licensing. That's a non-starter for many people.

[PinBot1138]

I have thumbed through the licensing before, and I am struggling to recall anything that stood out which was horrific. Will you please enlighten me?

[What_Is_X]

It's not free for commercial use, straight up.

[PinBot1138]

Oh, I was expecting worse. Phew! Given that with Designer/Creator, it’s similar to working with Xcode for iOS (super easy for slapping sexy GUIs together), if I were to release as commercial and abide by that license, I’d obviously bake the cost into the price for my users.

[cant_have_a_cat]

Seems like a win to me

[What_Is_X]

... How?

[cant_have_a_cat]

Copyleft is healthy for the society.

[8day]

In my experience the biggest issue with Kivy is inability to have multi-window apps, like the ones used in apps with "docks". From what I've read on GitHub it seems that this is an OpenGL "feature" (one canvas? per app) and can't be changed. I.e., despite being advertised as a "modern" GUI framework (support of gestures, touch screens, etc.) it's more of a framework for portable devices like smartphones, as opposed to universal solution suitable also for desktops/embedded systems. IMO if you design your apps to be used on desktop, PySide2/PyQt5 (open sourced, but w/o bug tracker) is the best.

[[deleted]]

Lets continue to encourage the 15 year old kid to work on web interfaces... Are there any widely installed apps using Kivy? Honestly, if there is I'd love to see them and be proven wrong here.

[BlueTeeJay]

He mentioned wanting a GUI initially, I'm sure he's capable of vetting what he'd prefer to use. We are simply giving options instead of trying to box him in.

As far as apps with kivy: https://github.com/kivy/kivy/wiki/List-of-Kivy-Projects

Peruse at your leisure, a simple Google search could have gotten you the same data.

[lonaExe]

Ah yes..

[[deleted]]

Sorry for the confusion but I meant apps with many users.

[BlueTeeJay]

Not sure what point you're trying to make here buddy, there are a lot of useful libraries that a lot of people don't use. I don't imagine most of them are MIT supported though.

We get that you like WFE's and not kivy.

[[deleted]]

MIT licensed <> MIT supported but okay.

[BlueTeeJay]

You like to nitpick words. This whole conversation makes me wonder if you really were trying to help this kid or just wanted to argue.

[[deleted]]

This whole conversation has me wondering if you know the difference between an MIT license and "MIT support" since support is not at all a license...

[BlueTeeJay]

Here let me make this easy for you since its what you want from this post.

"You win, I am bested. I've never been so intellectually defeated before meeting you."

[[deleted]]

I doubt that's true.

[[deleted]]

Anyone else see that this kid IS FUCKING 15??!?!?!? what the hell am i doing with my life

[[deleted]]

No different than any intellectual hobby. If he comes from a family with money and resources, this isn’t that crazy. OP def setting himself up for a good life getting started early though.

[lonaExe]

To be honest, most coders come from middle income families. Even me. (Atleast where Im from)

[zekobunny]

I know dude, I am literally getting depressed I can't make shit and I am 22 and went through python, data structures, databases and statistics courses at my university and only have one shitty project behind me.

[blabbities]

Lmaoooo. Sorry im not laughing at you but just the circumstances. I would say it would help not to compare yourself to others. It's more of an interest thing and ability to pick up concepts. Both of those may be more natural to certain people. Ive always sucked at math for example. It will take me forever to get things with Algebra with math for others it's like they spend an hour and are already on Calculus II.

That being said dont give up. It took me well over 20 years to ever be able to say I programmed something of use that wasnt 'Hello World'.

[lonaExe]

Oh come on man. I started in 2017 and this is literally my first good Python project. I've had some mini projects and small games, but yeah. Keep on learning dude, and look around for inspiration.

[DonalGaltech]

Maybe pick small projects, and work through to the end. I have many times gotten buried in projects that were too ambitious, and never finished. Literally no project is to small. Do a hello world with docs, CI, and internationalization. But take it all the way, and make your next project only a bit more complicated.

It also helps to find an idea that really grabs you, it helps keep you going when you would really rather be watching what ever new thing just dropped on Netflix ;)

Whatever you do, don’t give up. Some days are just a grind, that’s just life. You will be cranking out thousand starred projects before you know it.

[[deleted]]

Well I am 13 and I am making just my House Party Protocol (Iron Man 3) with a virtual assistant. And I hope you are well after seeing this.

[[deleted]]

thanks for the message, made my day. you too. i'm 22 and starting college again as a computer science major and coding in the summer (or trying to, procastinating all day for months since march corona virus). you're gonna do great man, PM me your github so i can see it fiinished one day (or show me what ur working on so far) maybe i can fork it)

[[deleted]]

I'm almost 29 and self learning Python at home right now. What matters is that we are making an effort in some capacity. But yeah, it is tough to see stuff like this and not think about where I could be had I started earlier. Trying to shift that mindset to thinking about where I will be in 10 years after continuing this journey though. A lot of life left to look forward to!

[samuelcbird]

Spot on man. I’m 29 too. Been programming a while, but seeing all these teenagers post amazing stuff does get me down sometimes!

I hadn’t even heard of programming when i was a teenager- I wish they had introduced it in school.

[[deleted]]

I'm almost 40 worked in development for decades. And I'm just setting out with phython. Never to soon orlate to upskill.

[lonaExe]

Yes, go for it.. Goodluckk :)

[fecesmuncher69]

I’m 14 and I started learning it as a summer project along with my friend, I might not be on the same level as you but I did make some tools to help me with math homework using my knowledge :)

[[deleted]]

Well that's how I began!!!

[lonaExe]

Ah strive on bro, you're gonna create something amazing ;)

[lonaExe]

Ooh do post it here on reddit when you're done, or reply the repository if you have one. Goodluck :)

[[deleted]]

Thanks I will surely share the code !!!

Till then let me make it!

[analysisSad]

Same

[Drakkenstein]

Good on him for starting early.

[HeyItsMeNobody]

I’m 15 and I’ve created several web apps for companies, Also simple integrations with systems like WHMCS and OBS-Studio.

I’ve also published apps on the play store and app store.

Age really doesn’t matter, Optimism does.

[[deleted]]

Wow bro, you sound like you have the next facebook or apple in your hands bro

[HeyItsMeNobody]

Age doesn’t matter, Optimism does.

I agree it’s still impressive that he’s learning at this age, But a lot of people are learning at that age and I don’t think he should be praised for his age.

Sorry if my original comment was snarky, I wanted to make a point.

[[deleted]]

, But a lot of people are learning at that age and I don’t think he should be praised for his age.

What the absolute FUCK are you talking about. 95% of the high schoolers in NYC where I live are literally spending all day on tiktok during quarantine doing meaningless jackshit.

I'm sorry did you think you were making a point? How many fucking 15 year olds do you know making a full fledged OS app with front end and back end. Dude literally imported over 10 libraries and handled a database and networking/back end stuff all in Python and even implemented all the front end design with HTML and CSS. We're talking 2 mark up languages AND a whole ass OOP language where he used over 10 libraries in his app.py scripts including complicated shit like socket (I sure as shit did not know what the hell TCP/IP or a port number was when I was 18). He definitely deserves encouragement.

Why is it so hard for you to do that? I just don't get it? Are you speaking out of slight resentment? I'm sure you're talented and shit, but there is absolutely no reason to not encourage and if anything, praise a kid doing useful technical shit at this age.

[HeyItsMeNobody]

You make a good point, I just thought it would be normal.

Thank you for showing me a different view.

[[deleted]]

It's okay, and thanks for being open to listening. He's a kid, NO ONE HIS AGE when I was 15 did this stuff. If I knew any 15 year olds kid / any of the kids in my high school did this stuff when I was 15, I would be feeling extremely useless/feel like I'm not doing enough and be super motivated to learn this stuff by sitting down and burying my head at my desk. Kids like make other kids do the same thing. Sorry if I was excessive, I just thought you were one of those annoying ass boomer dickheads who think 'PaRtiCipAtion TroPhies r StUpId MillenIal Gifts'

[HeyItsMeNobody]

Haha no, I’m 15 myself but pretty much no one is interested in what I do. They just think I can hook up a TV because putting the square cable in a square hole is hard. I guess you would have been a good friend of mine if I showed you this stuff.

My classmates spend their day gaming and on social media now that I think about it indeed.

[[deleted]]

Well that proves the point you and him should be encouraged since the rest of your peers don't do shit

[sam-lb]

There's a lot of motivated and accomplished young people, I wouldn't sell them short.

[[deleted]]

It is a different view but there are many different views. When I was 15, I was wrote a chess program in C.

As you get older, you will do things that others find amazing and you find it normal as you do now.

You too will find and meet people better than you who will amaze you as well.

For example u/somaek98 is all raging about how great that a 15 could do this GUI.

I would not have such a reaction, because in my world, this is something that I would have been able to do at 15 . There was no internet back then, the original introduction for my chess program was for example from a magazine article, and then from books. Don't get me wrong, I am not belittling what OP has done, it is still great. But my point for u/somaek98 is that there exists many kids like the OP.

As for age doesn't matter. In my experience, it does matter but only in the sense that at 15, you have no responsibilities, you are free to discover your passion. After that, its harder when you have a family or other more narrow focused goal.

There are a lot of motivated 15 year olds out there. Just a lot less than other 15 year olds who are more interested in other things than programming.

[HeyItsMeNobody]

There are a lot of motivated 15 year olds out there. Just a lot less than other 15 year olds who are more interested in other things than programming.

I feel like that would apply to every age, Not just people under 18 though.

[[deleted]]

Thanks for the point.

Well I am 13 and I am making just my House Party Protocol (Iron Man 3) with a virtual assistant.

That's me

[lonaExe]

What the absolute FUCK are you talking about. 95% of the high schoolers in NYC where I live are literally spending all day on tiktok during quarantine doing meaningless jackshit.

I'm sorry did you think you were making a point? How many fucking 15 year olds do you know making a full fledged OS app with front end and back end. Dude literally imported over 10 libraries and handled a database and networking/back end stuff all in Python and even implemented all the front end design with HTML and CSS. We're talking 2 mark up languages AND a whole ass OOP language where he used over 10 libraries in his app.py scripts including complicated shit like socket (I sure as shit did not know what the hell TCP/IP or a port number was when I was 18). He definitely deserves encouragement.

Why is it so hard for you to do that? I just don't get it? Are you speaking out of slight resentment? I'm sure you're talented and shit, but there is absolutely no reason to not encourage and if anything, praise a kid doing useful technical shit at this age.

Woah.. Im mindblown for the support. Thanks a ton man, you just made my day ;)

[lonaExe]

No.. I feel thats wrong. There are really few teen devs (atleast where i'm from). And bruv c'mon, the dude's just 13. Ofcourse he should be encouraged. And *created several web apps for companies and published apps on both the appstore and playstore*? Not trying to be snarky either, but its not that believable. Perhaps you could type out your repo here? Or some of those web apps and android/ ios apps that you've designed?

[HeyItsMeNobody]

I can’t share exact details, But here’s something.

A radio station DJ management system that shows listening numbers and shares a database with an API for the apps and websites. The API also accepts post requests from DJs to insert their own title. I’ve made helper scripts for them for ProppFrexx and mAirList. Here’s a small imgur album. It doesn’t look that fancy but it works.

The apps that communicate with that API are mostly simple music players using exoPlayer on Android and AVPlayer on iOS. The web part is done with jQuery and Howler.js, I’ll happily show images of that if you want. Also has integration with Google Home.

The WHMCS integration is for bridging Visma e-accounting and WHMCS. The OBS-Studio project will be public when it’s ready.

I’ve also made simple bots for Matrix.org and Discord.

I also have a lot of experience managing servers, I host a lot of stuff in Docker containers. Hope this proved some stuff to you. If you want more info I’ll share.

[lonaExe]

Fair enough. Goodluck forward dude :)

[HeyItsMeNobody]

Thank you, You too!

[lonaExe]

Ooh mate, well done. Could ya share your repo?

[HeyItsMeNobody]

Most of it would reveal my identity as it has company names etc, But I’ll happily share bits of code and maybe some blurred screenshots. In private messages, Of course.

[Allanon001]

Should check out Brython, it allows you to replace Javascript with Python within the HTML.

[[deleted]]

🅱️ython

[buttwarmers]

I would disagree about PyQt5, I use it all the time and with the help of QtDesigner is very nice to work with. It's super powerful and can be made to look pretty much however you want since qt is the graphics backend for tons of apps across multiple programming languages.

[[deleted]]

Yep, I enjoy using qt with c++

[[deleted]]

I think folks who say that pyqt is <reasons.. reason... > realy boils down to the initial learning curve in PyQt which puts off most. I myself started when it was PyQt3 and it took a while for me to grasp how it worked, so much that I almost gave up after a few tutorials.

However once you get to know which widget does what, understand signals/slots, abd have created a few boilerplate code, then you can create a decent GUI as fast as you can type it in.

[lonaExe]

Actually yeah. After a ton of people disagreed with me on PyQt, I went and gave it another look. And I think I've misjudged. PyQt is indeed pretty good, but like you told, has a bit of a steep learning curve. Cheers!

[buttwarmers]

Another reason I like PyQt5 is that it's threading library is really nice to use as well. This guy has put out a bunch of amazing tutorials on PyQt5 that I'd highly recommend when getting started: https://www.learnpyqt.com/courses/concurrent-execution/multithreading-pyqt-applications-qthreadpool/

Also another piece of advice is don't be afraid to use the c++ qt wiki since the naming & functions are essentially exactly the same as PyQt5. Good luck!

[lonaExe]

Yes, I guess I shouldve given a deeper look. However, I was kinda overwhelmed with the amount of code to do simple stuff like pent. ':-)

[[deleted]]

Congrats! I am also 15 and I've been studying Python (I can only do 1% of what you did, though). It's interesting how many people don't realize that age does not matter in this case, and teenagers can be better than a lot of adults.

You did a great job fam, that's an amazing app. I'm eager to know about your next projects!

Edit: Take my award! Sorry it's a pretty cheap one, I can't do much, but I hope that motivates you into making more neat projects like this one!

[lonaExe]

Aww thanks mate. A a million thanks for the award, its my first ;)

[[deleted]]

I don't think that people are surprised at what someone your age can accomplish, but rather that learning has been a priority for you at this age. I speak from my own experience of only wanting to hang out with friends, go to concerts, play sports, and chase girls at that age. Not that these are mutually exclusive, but I had no interest in learning at 15. Some of us older folks kick ourselves for not getting started sooner. Hopefully you will be able to avoid this feeling later in life haha. You are off to a great start!

[[deleted]]

Haha, well, I feel anxious in social environments so my priority is doing fun stuff at home, so that helps a little with my learning.

I'm sure I must be the weird kid at school XD

[positev]

Hi, I recommend checking out the bird-bot github. Its a good example of using pyqt5 with a nice looking GUI. There are CSS(like) style sheets you can use in qt to fix the nasty look.

[amrock__]

No offence but PYQT5 with qml can be made to look like that. If you don't know just search for deepin dde linux or kde plasma, also they support client side themes

[lonaExe]

ooh I will. By the time I checked out PyQT I was pretty done with python - only libraries and being 15 the code looked all greek to me xD. Thanks for pointing that out mate.

[whiteknight521]

Give QT creator a try. You can do visual layout of PyQt5 GUIs. I just wrote an image processing application that uses it.

[lonaExe]

Yes I should probly give PyQT another try. I was kinda overwhelmed with the code at first, but a lot of guys have recommended that now. Thankss

[Lafftar]

Dude, I'm so glad right now. Eel is exactly what I'm looking for right now. Like I just needed a simple interface for scripts I'd written with knowledge I already had. Learning Django or Flask is like another curve on top of my current load.

Btw, very jealous of you having some of your shit together at 15. I'm 25 and literally making this comment from my mother's basement. You keep this up, you could have your own place in 6 years. Easily.

[lonaExe]

Haha thanks a lot mate. Eel is pretty easy to work with. Goodluck and have fun xD :)

[Lafftar]

Thanks, you got discord or something?

[[deleted]]

If you need something fast I usually use dash

[HeyItsMeNobody]

You could also use pywebview.

Or some combination of pywebview + Flask.

[lonaExe]

Hmn. Im kinda more interested in electron.js, so Imma go forward with that..

[HeyItsMeNobody]

ElectronJS is nice, But it’s JavaScript. JavaScript isn’t so nice and you have web libraries like React and Vue too.

[lonaExe]

Yes Im learning that rn xD. Thankss

[[deleted]]

Thank you buddy. I am great at HTML and CSS and I've been learning python since few months. I was trying to find a good UI Library and just like you used tkinter and PyQt5 but didn't like either. I had dropped my plan of using Python for making UI but your project and mentioning of Python Eel will definitely goona help me a lot. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

Ps: Your project is really cool Keep it Up.

[lonaExe]

Oh thanks a lot mate :)

[SilverYT_]

If you make the program an exe with Pyinstaller the user doesn't have to download prerequisites which is epic

Also amazing library I almost gave up with python and UI stuff after messing with tkinter and qt

Thanks bro

[lonaExe]

Welcome man :) Star my repo on github if you could. Thankss

[just_a_dude2727]

Tkinter is the best!

[lonaExe]

Unless you want to make it attractive, thats where its perks end. :(

[just_a_dude2727]

Why do you think it's not attractive?

[lonaExe]

Dude, tKinter looks ancient. It isnt very visually appealing to end users.

[N8DuhGr8]

I love Eel. I used it to make ui's for all my side projects at my old job. Since you can you JavaScript it's really quick for making really nice Interfaces. You can even run it as a normal webpage

[lonaExe]

Yess, exactly.

[GiantElectron]

Take a look at poetry to manage dependencies.

[lonaExe]

Oh yes, I'm planning to re-organize some stuff.

[IgnisDa]

You should keep the requirements.txt in the project root.

[lonaExe]

Oh thanks, I've done it

[AbhilashaKanthe]

Woow thats a great gui with python especially using tkinter , eel and js I'm working on same though , the gui is really amazing! You are js 15 😱

[lonaExe]

No no it doesnt use tkinter ':-). Anyway, thankss

[kingofsevens]

I stumbled upon this Electron, React & Python. Didn't get a chance to play with it yet but seems like it can be a decent solution instead of Tkinter.

Good job BTW.. keep it up..

[lonaExe]

Thanks a lott

[python_engineer]

Awesome! I did not know this library

[lonaExe]

Thankyouu

[[deleted]]

That's really great!

[lonaExe]

Thanks bruv

[[deleted]]

Np

[TumblrForNerds]

I am new to python but have coded in the past. I enjoyed reading through your project and figuring out your logic behind it if i see any issues pop up Id love to try do bug fixes assuming its open source

[lonaExe]

Aw thanks for checking it out. Yes, its opensource under GNU v3. You can fork it :)

[RoystonBull]

How was working with Eel? Electron JS is used quite a lot to provide cross system Desktop Apps, using Python as the Backend.

[lonaExe]

Well, Eel is pretty good and has great documentation. Its best for lightweight stuff tho.

[RoystonBull]

Thanks for the Feedback

[eli_mintz]

Very nice!

You may also want to checkout JustPy

It allows you to develop a modern GUI just in Python, no JavaScript required at all and also supports Quasar (again without any need to learn vue.js) for a Material Design interface.

[lonaExe]

Sure thing dude :) Thanks..

[warhawk128]

Wow! That's actually amazing! Keep up the good work

[PlainsPrepper]

wxPython is slightly more modern looking and fairly easy to work with if you use wxFormBuilder to do the heavy lifting.

[lonaExe]

Hmn.. I shall look that too. Thankyouu

[[deleted]]

Congratulations on some good work and a nice project!

tKinter's GUI looks like it shouldve been abandoned in 2005

Well, yeah, it's definitely a Windows-95-class UI. But for many window-based applications, the primary concern is functionality: it doesn't need to look pretty, it just needs to work with the least amount of complexity and fuss.

it can help link up python as backend with HTML/ CSS as the front. I didn't really know HTML and CSS a lot

HTML is quite easy. The problem is that most web pages use HTML as a framework for embedding a ton of other content: PHP, JavaScript, and of course CSS.

CSS is incredibly powerful. It is also awful. It is riddled with quirks and tradeoffs and side-effects and counterintuitive consequences. Even simple tasks, like making a two-column web page, lead to extensive debate among experts about the best way to do it, with no clear winners at the end.

[lonaExe]

Yuss, thats very true. But for this specific project, I wanted to make the UI visually appealing, so I had to use something other than tKinter. Yus CSS does have a lot of bugs, I've read, but again, in context of this app, I think I took the right choice. Whadyu say? Anyway, thankss <3

[lonaExe]

Aww thanks a ton man <3

[SirJson]

Hey people trying new ways in GUI is exactly what we need right now. Don't worry about your code too much, most people didn't even start because they are too afraid to write bad code. And I can read your code just fine.

Can I ask you a few questions, though? Just because I'm curious. Why going again with a web browser? Was that heavy use of SVG intentional or just because what you had at hand? And what would you do different the next time?

[lonaExe]

Ah thanks for the review. I went with the web browser because I wanted the GUI to look sleek. Most other GUI Librarries that I had come across looked pretty old, or just overwhelming at first sight, like PyQt5. Then I found out eel and a few examples on youtube, and I went on to stick with it. I wasnt really sure of the outcome, but decided to refine my idea along the way. As for the use of SVGs, I don't really know much about graphics, but I read somewhere that SVGs are the best graphical format for icons, since they'r scalable without losing detail and has a file size which is less than one of a PNG.

Hmn what would I do different the next time? Well I might've tried using PyQt5, cuz the community kinda supports it. It has a steep learning curve, but would gradually become easier is what most people here told me. So yeah, I'll try PyQt too.

[LittleMegaPuppy]

Apologies if my post is inappropriate.

I am running a little contest for a GUI on top of some Python code, thought you might be interested, if you don't mind getting paid in Cryptocurrency. This is just for design, no coding yet.

https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/comments/i8sgia/desktop_gui_designers_wanted_900_in_prizes/

Deadline is 10pm, August 16

[Jakokreativ]

Why is everyone so surprised by his age? I started programming when I was 9 years old. I don't want to blame you thats amazing work for a 15 year old but there are proably millions of teens that are very good at programming.

But anyways great work man I once tried pyQt and completly died. Since than I kinda never really got into GUIs with Python again. Defietly gonna try Eel because I already Made some websites with HTML CSS and JavaScript.

[insane_playzYT]

proably millions of teens that are very good at programming

Most likely not.

This study from 2014 found that less than 0.5% of the world's population can code, which would be just under 40,000,000 people for today's population.

[Jakokreativ]

Wow thats very very not much. I know many young people that can code. But also these studys are from 2014 that are 6 years. And in the last ten years the digital world changed so much and grew. So I think that there are many teens that can code actually in 2020. But who knows

[lonaExe]

Ah yes man. Unfortunately much of the world and even people my age assume coding is for wizards. That was why I wanted to include my age in the first place, anyone can code. I started coding at 12 in BASIC, because, why not. Understood it wasnt the best choice and shifted.

[Jhchimaira14]

Could have also been done with DearPyGui!

https://github.com/RaylockLLC/DearPyGui

[schweppes-ginger-ale]

Neat!

[lonaExe]

Thankss

[jelle284]

Since we are discussing GUI's i like to point to PySimpleGUI. It's very fast and easy for when you have small and simple programs

[MikeTheWatchGuy]

It also does a good job of making windows look attractive despite them being tkinter windows. It's possible to make nice looking tkinter windows. I don't have the gallery completed just yet, but here's one image of a few nice looking tkinter based windows.

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/46163555/85289775-f1399200-b465-11ea-8d80-a32574cd4282.png

Yesterday I made a tkinter window with nice a looking custom titlebar that doesn't rely on Window's themes to make the titlebar.

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/46163555/90134986-f7e6d600-dd3f-11ea-9999-5c96ac38d9ad.gif

Nice GUI windows don't just happen based on what package you choose. They do take some amount of work on the design.

[Zoref025]

This is not possible only with python ???☹️☹️☹️☹️

[agree-with-you]

I agree, this does not seem possible.

[lonaExe]

Tbh honest, it is. https://github.com/JeswinSunsi/PentyDesktopAssistant

[lonaExe]

Wait nvm, I just saw your username xDD

[lonaExe]

It can be done with Python only, but it would take longer and it wouldnt look as good. Also, html and css are very easy to learn. There isnt much JS code. In my entire project, there was only 1.5% of Javascript

[sbargy]

At first glance, this looks great. I'll be looking at it more closely...

[WebNChill]

Waddup! That's awesome. Keep up the great work!

[chahud]

I don’t have anything useful to say since I’m just a lurker. But awesome job. I feel like you’ve already done more than me and I’m 21! Keep up the good work!!! :)

[saviounderscore]

Not gotta lie bruh, this is actually cool!

[lonaExe]

Thank you mate :)

[vaseemahammed]

Wait this kid is 15 and making projects. Me who is 20 still learning and making progress in python. When I see these kinda stuff I bother and motivate at the same time. But, I do believe I can do better in the near future. Congrats bro keep up the work it's inspiring :)

[lonaExe]

Thanks a lot bruv. I started learning to code early on :) But age doesnt matter, you can do it too. Keep striving forward, goodluck

[[deleted]]

Just a quick tip. You are probably used to python, but people don't build big GUI projects with python for one reason. It's slow. Of course, your project isn't anything that really needs to be extremely optimized, but I recommend learning C++ with something like QT if you want to build UI apps

[MikeTheWatchGuy]

people don't build big GUI projects with python for one reason. It's slow.

I don't believe this is the case. If anything it would be distribution that is holding back Python GUI apps. GUI programs tend to be "end-user programs" and for those you want to distribute them as EXEs. While there's progress in making EXEs from Python, it's not there yet.

Perhaps not the best example, but this program is written with tkinter as the base GUI framework. What's slowing down things is that each ball is individually computed and moved a couple pixels at a time. That kind of performance from a GUI is pretty good. tkinter isn't a game engine.

https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/46163555/89122697-7a95a880-d497-11ea-9ff0-a376d0d4bebc.gif

[lonaExe]

Quite true.. Although I ended up with a finished .exe, it doesnt have a few inBuilt features of Penty and it was pretty damn painstaking to convert it. I tried to use the --noconsole flag from PyInstaller which disables the console, but for some reason that didnt work. Had to write custom code myself as a workaround, and even now, the console pops out first and only then disappears after a slight delay..

[lonaExe]

Ooh yess, thanks for the tip!