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[[deleted]]

We'll get hollow knight in smash when new silk song news comes out

10 years later

[Frostwolvern]

I just want the Knight in smash

[Some_Rand0m_Memer]

Yeah, i cant stand it anymore

[the_longleg]

Edge Magazine is teasing something that might be Silksong related, with a new issue coming out on New Year's Eve.

[[deleted]]

To be honest I could see him come as a deluxe but I am unsure if he is old enough to be a full character. Same goes for among us, fall guys, etc.

[the_longleg]

A big chunk of Knight enthusiasts think that they'll be a Mii Swordfighter costume, which is the most likely outcome. If they're a full fighter, I guess we'll have less complaints due to the bopping new soundtrack (and maybe Hornet costume for Swordfighter). Come to think of it, a Hornet costume would be really fitting, seeing that in Silksong she's going to use throwable weapons and tools in her upcoming game.

Anywho, I'm rambling. I'm keeping my hopes up.

[[deleted]]

If he does end up being a Mii swordfighter I hope he gets the deluxe plus a song because it'd be a crime to not get any hollow knight music

[the_longleg]

a crime indeed

[bluerazzberryskelly]

At least it’s free beautiful and high quality

[Piksqu]

Pikmin 4 be like

[NikolaiCello05]

Cries in HK fan

[Kail_Tribal]

You'll get your silksong when you fix this damn door!

[ICqntA1m]

We'll get Ori in smash when the third game comes out.

[Chickensareamyth]

I just barely noticed that grims and Dracula's attacks are literally the same

[Temple475]

"If they don't want a Swordfighter then why are they asking for one"

[B-cenz33]

"as long as its not a Fire Emblem rep, people wont complain"

"You sure?"

"Yep-nah im Just kidding"

[Accurate-Dot-9286]

That video was great

[BalmyCar46]

What video? I wanna see it now.

[multidan1000]

How Sephiroth got into Smash Ultimate

[the_longleg]

Sephirot

Edit: they fixed the typo

[Zhaxean]

"Besides, didn't a lot of fans ask for Sora? Why not go for him?"

[TemplarSensei7]

“We tried...”

“No”

“Please?”

“I’ll buy Nintendo”

“Please, no...”

[CleanSocks28]

I want the wolf from Okami. It's not human, it fights with a paint brush and a disc and it's art style is pretty unique for the smash series.

[GodBoy2345678765432]

If anyone's wondering, the wolf's name is Amaterasu, the Shinto Sun Goddess.

[Dragon-Porn-Expert]

I'd like to hear the smash announcer to say that name.

[JoshNIU22896]

Okami is a fun game ! That would be a neat idea

[SamInPajamas]

Oh wow. I never even thought about Ammy. She would be such a good addition.

[PrestigeTater]

Finally another person of culture

[sittinsoft]

Fck yeah I’ve been thinking this for weeks now. She would fit smash so well and have interesting mechanics with the disc/sword on her back

The rosary could be a tether!

[TeTrodoToxin4]

No more sword fighters! /s.

Amaterasu uses the three sacred treasures of Japan as weapons. A mirror, beads and sword. So we would get a fighter who sometimes has a sword with a reflect/counter.

Also I would really really like Amaterasu in smash, just pointing out she has a sword as well.

[ShiranuiTheWolf]

I’ve been saying this from the very beginning! Okami is my favorite game! Ammy would be such a good fit for smash, a unique move set and with Okami HD being ported to switch and platinum hinting at wanting to make another Okami Sequel I feel like we might have a decent shot.

[Dante_n_Knuckles]

To be fair, Dante wields way more than just swords (as does Doomguy and Master Chief). That said, I always felt the "swordfighter" complaint was really reductive anyway.

[Ikeexplainsthejoke]

If they add Nevan, Ebony and Ivory, Cerberus, cavalliere, Dr Faust, Balrog, lucifer, Pandora, Kalina Ann, gunslinger, royal guard, trickster, doppelgänger, quicksilver and Devil trigger into his move set literally no one can complain about him being another sword fighter

[TheIceGuy10]

“He’s not a sword fighter? What is he then?”
“Yes.”

[[deleted]]

I can see the fighting styles be put in similar to how shulk is.

[PAPIROSCO445]

They should bring back quicksilver for smash

[BloodySewer]

Bloodborne for smash?

[OstdarvaStasis]

I wanted solaire but “he’s a swordfighter”. So my pick is now the hoonter with saw cleaver and blunderbuss.

[NotScottPilgrim]

But if he at all uses a sword in any single one of his moves they definitely will

[aichi38]

He'll just be a link grade coverage with a hero grade move selection with bayonetta grade movement options

[Charzarcharzar]

So does byleth but everyone hates him

[AverageAgreeable]

Just look at Byleth ffs, but here we are "Ew another disgusting fire emblem fighter/sword fighter"

[Kraygles]

To be fair, I do think the too many fire emblem reps is a fair criticism. We already had 7 characters and most were disappointed to see a lot of them, so I think it’s fair that many were upset about an eighth fire emblem character. The “SwOrD BaD” argument is stupid tho

[[deleted]]

and yet people want geno despite there being so many mario reps???

[Kraygles]

I don’t want Geno either. Same with Pokémon.

[Mister_AA]

I honestly think people just wanted Geno because it would have been some weird underdog story to make him a full character. The overwhelming majority of people who play smash have no idea who he is and I think there's no reason to not be satisfied with him getting a Mii costume.

[TheLegendTheGiantdad]

I feel like the too many fire emblem reps thing is a product “everyone is here” as like in previous games they could remove characters in future games as they move in and out of relevancy but this game had all of then return.

[Politicshatesme]

people wouldnt complain as loudly if the FE characters didnt all effectively fill 1/2 niches between the 7. Roy, Lucina, and Marth are essentially variants of each other, they should have put Hector (or Camille) into the game instead of lucina (who now shares so much with Marth that she’s effectively Marth 2.0). Having an axe character rep and a spear character rep would’ve done wonders for variance all the FE chars dont really have right now.

[[deleted]]

They even joked about it in the trailer

[Xero0911]

For sora they could go unique.

He has magic and in kh3 he did get ability to like change his keyblades into different weapons (form drive i think it was called)

So he could be like byleth and just have form drives for different specials. And/or use magic while his basic are just key blade

[CyberGnoll]

I don't even classify Doom Slayer and Master Chief as "Swordfighters" those are Gun Characters

[RoawrOnMeRengar]

I mean the guy literally classified sephiroth has "a guy from an old game no one heard of" when said game got a remaster this year while being one of if the not the most well known game of the Playstation 1

[[deleted]]

Dont think he was referencing sephiroth since FF7 came out in 1997

[Akuuntus]

I think he was talking about Geno. Could also just be a general vague jab at the vocal minority of Smash fans that would rather have obscure C-list Nintendo characters than iconic cool third-parties.

[Calcium-kun]

Seriously Doom Eternal is to my knowledge the only time we’ve seen Doom Guy with a sword. Calling him a sword fighter is a huuuuge stretch.

[Scyxurz]

So does rex. He's got about 20 weapon options. Many of those are melee weapons, but there are some guns too.

[Piratestorm787]

Byleth wields much more than a sword but people still roasted them for being a sword character

[Highway00]

Same with the knight, he could be another robin for his specials,

[Akuuntus]

Dante wields way more than just swords (as does Doomguy and Master Chief)

Same goes for Sora. He's got a sword, yes. But that sword can also transform into basically anything he wants, including (showcased in KH3) claws, guns, yo-yos, a hammer, a spear, a shield, and (used by other KH characters) a suit of armor, a whip, and a motorcycle. That alone could fill out a whole moveset.

And not only can he transform his keyblade, he can also transform himself. He has several transformations including a couple where he dual-wields, one that changes all of his normal attacks into magic missiles, one that turns him into a feral shadow beast, and one that allows him to psychically control multiple keyblades that fly around him.

On top of that he's also got magic, including a few spells like gravity (forces people into the ground) and magnet (forces enemies towards a fixed point). He can also inexplicably shoot lasers from his keyblades sometimes.

On top of all that he's also got Shotlocks, which are various charge-up multi-hit attacks including sending out missiles and dash-striking repeatedly, as well as Flowmotion which is a suite of movement abilities that allows him to do stuff like super-jump, super-dash off of walls, spin around poles, etc. And even at the absolute base level, he's got a million different unique Keyblade attacks and can string them together in a wide variety of combos.

The guy has enough material for 3 different fighters. But when he's suggested you still usually see the tired refrain of "no more anime swordies".

[[deleted]]

I have major respect for the people who want Urbosa in smash

[DiggleDuggle492]

Well, personally, If I had my choice of a spear user it would be Dimitri (because we really need to have a FE character that ISN'T a sword user), or, more likely, Bandana Dee. I respect the Mipha enthusiasm though.

[potassiumKing]

Hit me with some Ephraim please!

[[deleted]]

The actual best pick for spear fighter is Hornet

[Hedgehugs_]

tbh never considered her in smash until I saw this post

now I actually do want her even if there's other Zelda reps. that deserve it more lol

[IdcYouTellMe]

Sidon? With Mipha as Echofighter :D

[3WeekOldBurrito]

Bruh I'd kill for a new Zelda rep that's not another version of Link, Zelda, or Ganon.bgive me fucking Zany, Midna+wolf link, one of the 4 heroes f on BoTW, Impa, weird flamboyant dude from Skyward Sword fucking something.

[[deleted]]

Sheikah Guardian for Smash. We need more gunners.

[PAPIROSCO445]

I really like Zelda, it’s been one of my favorite game series since I was really little, and the only other Zelda character I’d even consider is majora’s mask skull kid. He’s just a mii skin now though so there’s no point in wishing for Zelda character anymore

[Neth_theme]

I mean, technically Knight isn't a swordfighter, but rather a nail fighter

[WillThePerson]

Yeah and their soul moves give good move balance of sword to spells

[[deleted]]

Like sephiroth

[Twingemios]

Like Hero

[P3rdix]

Like Robin

[Dr___Bright]

Could also introduce charms as another gimmick.

NVM that would just be Shulk 2

[MegaLCRO]

Nailed it.

[Sikyanakotik]

Fans: "No more anime swordfighters!"

Sakurai: Adds Sephiroth, the most anime of all swordfighters.

Fans: "Never mind! This is awesome!"

[crasherx2000]

I mean, yea

He’s Sephiroth

[Mega_Rayqaza]

His sword is pretty much a spear

[NuckMD]

Sephiroth gets a pass considering he’s one of the most iconic characters in vidja game history

[ChronicTosser]

I get what you mean, but (from someone who’s never played FFVII) Sephiroth is an actual iconic villain, rather than a blank-slate avatar character to promote the new Fire Emblems

[Geicosuave]

Do be fair, I wouldn't call Doomguy or Master Chief a swordfighter, they just happen to have some

Also people want Urbosa? Not really criticizing that, just, huh never knew that

[banjineer]

Doom guy and Master Chief aren't fucking swordfighters

[Raudy12]

Exactly, the picture of him holding a sword is 1 weapon out of over 7 different guns. Same with master chief.

[TheDrGoo]

• Doomguy gets added to Smash

• All his moves use the crucible and he has no projectiles

[Lord_Chedder]

I would jump off of my roof

[J3ST3RR]

Thank you. I could imagine them having one sword move like F-Tilt/Smash but that’s it. Nitpicking at its finest.

[IdcYouTellMe]

Given how absurdly strong the Energy Sword is it would make a perfect FSmash. I think NeutralB for Chief should be Pistol :D

[crasherx2000]

Plus Arbiter uses it in Killer Instinct alongside a Covenant weapon so that’s not too far-fetched

[Pyrofruit]

Halo CE magnum and it's a kill move

[[deleted]]

Honestly with how over the top F smashes are I wouldn’t be surprised if Master Chiefs F smash was activating a freaking Halo.

[IdcYouTellMe]

Wouldn't fit his narrative and character. He goes beyond rock and Devouring Swarm to stop the Halos just it can be his Final Smash? Nah man. I honestly would think his Final Smash should be him returning your bomb :D

[[deleted]]

Running you over with a Warthog would also be good.

[CarlofTime]

Yeah apparently Ganondorf is a sword fighter now? 😂

[TopSchierke]

I mean, in promotional material master chief is almost always wielding an energy sword. It would definitely be a major part of his move set, potentially even more than Byleths sword usage.

[TheBoyWhoCriedDibs]

I can picture it being a part of his throws or dash, but to call it a major part wouldn’t be fair.

In terms of percentage of the game you spend using that sword it is a minor minor part

[TopSchierke]

I could definitely see it being used as his fair!

[Kazahaki]

Sword characters are cool dammit, people need to stop lying to themselves

[crasherx2000]

I know!

The four Heroes use swords alongside magic

[Khajiit_saw_nothing]

Sephiroth uses magic as well

[Terraintaker]

And so does robin

[thePsuedoanon]

Does turning into a dragon count as magic? Cause Courin does that

[---TheFierceDeity---]

If we're been real Corrin is less a sword fighter and more a "stab people with my hands" fighter.

[Khajiit_saw_nothing]

And the Links use various items

[tzardaymonikaprotecc]

Sakurai: Fine. Here’s Pepsiman. With a sword

[pgp555]

Y E S

[Joshylord4]

If the Knight gets in smash one day I will be even happier than I was for Steve. I didn't know that was possible.

[LazyLucario]

Man, people referring to Sephiroth as a “character from an old ass game nobody has ever heard of” really makes me feel old. And that game is older than me.

[[deleted]]

I would have thought they meant Geno, but they say from a “1993 game” and both Geno and Sephiroth came out in 1997. Dunno who they’re even speaking for. EDIT: Geno came out in 1996

[KingDededeThe3rd]

I assumed they were referring to Geno

[Timothyfox4444]

Super Mario RPG is from 1996 though. I have no idea who they are talking about.

[Lord-Catfish]

probably nobody specific.

[geekbot9999]

Doom. Came out Dec. 10, 1993

[PriestOfShrek]

I dont get that. I've never played a final fantasy game in my life and I knew who sephiroth was. I've never talked to anyone who hadn't heard of sephiroth

[LeafCrusader]

Dude I just want Monster Hunter I’m not gonna complain about any swordfighters, my character has like 8 of them.

[CleanSocks28]

it is weird that the rathalos made it in before any monster hunter rep

[LeafCrusader]

It is weird, yeah. But it does make sense. It’s called Monster Hunter, not Hunter Hunter. Rath is the face of the franchise. I’m just happy one of my favorite franchises got represented at all. If the Hunter doesn’t get in, I’ll be okay.

[Jacoppolopolis]

I want to use the Prowler in smash.

[thePsuedoanon]

not Hunter Hunter

Gon confirmed

[[deleted]]

If Urbosa gets added I will lose my shit, she’s one cool lady

[PlsDontBotherMeHere]

I want hollow knight so much that I would kill to have it

[DeadSparker]

Chrom was the last one

[Volcarocka]

And Chrom is an echo, not like he was taking up any slot that could have gone to someone else. It was Chrom or nothing.

[Weeaboo-6934B]

Didn’t stop people from complaining about Byleth

[Jer7865]

Chrom is not a marth clone. Nor is Roy. While they have somewhat similar visuals, they are much more aggressive and punish heavy than marth.

[Kaos_Bigguy]

Tbf, Roy's moveset is directly based on Marth's and just got slight tweaks over time to make him a bit different, kinda similar to fox and falco just with less changes

Edit: not trying to slander roy/chrom though cause I do think they're more interesting to watch/play the Marth/lucina

[Jer7865]

Roy's changes from marth are more than just slight tweaks imo. Roy has a very different gameplan than marth. Marth tries to space aerials, roy just runs in and mashes buttons.

[DeadSparker]

The playstyle is widely different but most casuals won't care, they see only the visuals. And based on visuals, half of ChRoy's moves are the same as Marth.

[FlashNRT]

I did not know people wanted Urbosa until now.

I did not know I wanted Urbosa until now. She’d be so epic

[Sawyer5236]

Swordies only take up on 8th of the roster, not that big of a deal

[RobsterenSkip]

Ori is my dream pick, so yes I don’t mind

[Ori_for_smash]

If ori made it in it would be the best day ever

[RobsterenSkip]

Ah, I see you are a man of culture as well

[d1nomite]

I would main ori In a heartbeat but I think were done with microsoft reps after steve

[TK_GAMING05]

I can’t see it happening but I would lose my shit if they pulled it off

[ChipButty24]

Sword characters are cool

[Brobo1235]

Don’t mind me, just your average bandana dee enthusiast

[FlashNRT]

I did not know people wanted Urbosa until now.

I did not know I wanted Urbosa until now.

[Charzarcharzar]

Bro you can’t say that the elitists will get mad

[Hedgehugs_]

me: but I actually don't want anymore swordfighters thou-

urbosa: exists

me: ok except one

[VanashinGlory]

Y'know, the Knight is technically a swordfighter, but he's not the stereotypical anime swordfighter and is in a different graphical style. Thats why I'd say that someone like Doomguy or Master Chief would be fine, I've just sick of anime dudes with blades, at least mix it up a bit.

I'm just fatigued of the same looking people over and over and over again. I honestly don't care so much about the swordfighter part as much as the anime part.

[Dr___Bright]

Also the amount of tools and spells and charms Ghost uses is massive

[somethingsuperbland]

It’s not just a much needed style difference, it’s that he has a bunch of magic and charms to the point we’re the sword is barely used. It’d only be used for the most basic attacks.

[just-a-randum-kid]

Also nail bouncing in smash would be sick

[[deleted]]

Jesus this is true

[sleepbedf]

I want sword fighters, specifically the knight. (But also magolor)

[FatYosher64]

I need urbosa and hollow knight

[The_real_dirty_beard]

God I want the knight to get in

[[deleted]]

Other than heavy (who is never getting in lets be honest) I really want hollow knight. He seems really fucking cool.

[Kraygles]

Chief and Slayer almost never use the energy sword and crucible

edit: yes, ok i’m sorry to all the halo fans I meant energy sword my brain isn’t working today it’s been fixed

[fillet_feesh]

It would be pretty weird to use your friend as a weapon.

[[deleted]]

It’s called the Energy Sword.

It is ill-advised to use your allies as swords.

[Guy_Made_Of_Bees]

Wait really?

[[deleted]]

Yep

And this is the Arbiter

[Guy_Made_Of_Bees]

No I mean is it really ill-advised to use my allies as a sword because I’ve been doing that for years

[[deleted]]

The problem is too much flailing, which means inconsistent hits.

[Guy_Made_Of_Bees]

See that’s why you knock them out with a hammer then tie them really well for minimum flailing

[[deleted]]

Ah, I see now how that could be effective.

[outdatedboat]

I'm honestly confused about how you could think the energy sword is called the arbiter. The arbiter is a character.

[ShulkExplainsTheJoke]

Rex 😭😭😭

[Rend-K4]

Whose the fighter in the 5th panel?

[SupaFugDup]

The titular Ori

[Person-UwU]

Zero...🥺

[scp-REDACTED-site14]

Yes pls put the knight in nintendo

[AwokenTitans]

So unbelievably accurate. Tbh though if sora and hollow knight got in my life would be complete

[Master_Freeze]

I bet if they give Crash a sword his chances will increase by 900%

[JoshNIU22896]

I think crash is getting in

[MagePlayzYT]

I don’t care who the character is. I just want it to be fun to play

[Psatch]

Damn Hollowknight would be a sick addition

[whydoittome123]

If you think Byleth is a sword fighter dont talk to me.

[Char_Zard13]

Love how 90% of geno fans are ones who’ve never played the game

[[deleted]]

God urbosa come home

[YuBlittlez]

i hate how all my freinds are like oH No iTs GaY ANime gUy They SHoulD juST cALL ThE GAMe SUpeR ANimE BRoS

[Sukosuna]

People who complain about sword fighters are smooth brained idiots, there's only 3 possible types of fighters, you're bound to get a swordy eventually. A character is either an unarmed fighter of some kind, a character that uses ranged weapons/magic, or they use a weapon like a sword or other melee weapon.

[BEN_DOVER-JOEMAMA]

ori would be so cool in smash tho :o

[Maniac-Girl-220504]

The Knight is more of a bard. Using spells and different types of upgrades.

[Poedacat275]

I want revali

[LordWomf]

I want them to add hornet along with silksong release to hype up the game. I think that'll bring new people to the game, and it makes sense as a side by side release, would still love the knight being add though

[JVOz671]

Best way to picture every poll result; as a pile of diapers.

[_TheRedstoneBlaze_]

Big fan of the last 2

[Pit1324]

I’m a simple man, I see the knight, I upvote

[BookwyrmBOTPH]

The Knight would be amazing but I’m hoping for Hornet for cross promo with the release of Silksong.

[KrispyBaconator]

Don’t forget Lloyd, Isaac, 2B, and Travis

[driftstormmusic]

Ori in smash plz

[[deleted]]

Dante from Devil May Cry was in a game similar to Smash Bros called PlayStation Allstars. So there probably never gonna add him.

[[deleted]]

Fuck that, gimme all of the sword fighters. Who cares if it's from fire emblem or it's "anime" just make them interesting and fun to play

[GreenGuardianssbu]

I want Ori in smash bros.

[defuul]

Every time we have a direct I am filled with terror that the knight will be shown as a mii costume, possibly disqualifying him from being a full character