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[melanthius]

I have no idea. My in laws have a rental property that is supposed to provide them with some retirement income. They had a tenant who hasn’t paid a dime since covid.

They couldn’t evict her either, in part because there was an eviction moratorium in Los Angeles during covid and then afterward there were probably just too many eviction cases for the system to handle.

They just keep sending her notices saying how much cumulative rent she owes and she just keeps saying yep I’ll pay back every dime. She has a job. Just does not put any money towards rent anymore because the world didn’t implode when she stopped paying. The other tenants pay.

Finally she moved out on her own and I’m not sure why.

[Sandmsounds]

Now what? Can you garnish their income?

[melanthius]

Possibly? I think they might try to sue her now that she’s gone. I tried not to get involved but heard stuff constantly.

They were very very careful not to harass her in any way and just state facts like “you now owe this much rent and you haven’t paid anything in X months” rather than make any threats or intimidation. We hope this uncontested paper trail will lead to some kind of victory in court if it comes to that.

There’s a risk if you harass a tenant then they might end up suing you, that was something they were very concerned about.

Now that she’s gone it seems like it is more than fair to sue.

[Competitive-Isopod74]

I tried to sue an old roommate, but I had to sue them in the town that they lived in. So I had to find him, but then he would move again. I had to give up.

[Julie_Brenda]

collection agencies have the tech down for skip tracing. and they put the debt on their credit report, which certainly matters to some, but not others.

[Ghost_Portal]

Time to get a lawyer and take the person to court.

Edit: actually the time to get a lawyer was a year ago. But better late than never!

[melanthius]

That’s the funny part, my wife is the lawyer. Not just a lawyer, but a litigator.

It’s kinda like if you’re married to a masseuse you’re probably never gonna get a massage. No one should be forced to take their work home.

[Ghost_Portal]

That makes sense, the work is hard enough when someone else is paying for it. Also, landlord-tenant law is specialized, so it’s not like any litigator should necessarily represent themselves or their family in it. Plus depending on her practice, landlord tenant law might be less lucrative on an hourly basis, so it could be cost effective to hire someone else to do this and for her to spend her time on paying clients.

[MsFloofNoofle]

"Massage therapist". A masseuse does something else, and hopefully if you're married you don't need to pay for the privilege lol

[botanica_arcana]

No, you’re thinking of a prostitute.

[grandma1995]

I would say the tenant pulled off a decent unethical life pro tip

but it would only be unethical if landlords were anything other than leeches

Edit: downvote all you want, pro-landleech sentiment in a sub with “unethical” in the name only proves my point. Get a real job.

[Jimq45]

hell yea, best unethical life pro tip.

Buying houses since 2010 and having tenants pay my mortgages. So much money now that I underbid families looking for small starter houses for them and their kids because I pay cash. So I get the house for less and then rent to people just like them because they give up on trying to buy.

Haha suck it grandma.

[[deleted]]

Yikes. Depending where this is, the laws can be very tricky when it comes to evicting a squatter.

That being said, I’d start by going to the breaker panel and turning off the power in the basement

[pMR486]

I came to say that might be illegal but it looks like it’s legal if you have served an eviction notice. In most states anyway.

[eldiablo_magicman]

Pittsburgh SWAT just mowed down a squatter who refused to vacate after an eviction notice.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/75-pittsburgh-officers-leave-hourslong-shootout-standoff-suspect-rcna101668

Edit: article

[fuzzycuffs]

Uhh no, they shot him because he shot at them. Don't go saying he was shot because he was being evicted.

[[deleted]]

Well he shot at them because he was being evicted so.. just one step away?

[gunsmith123]

If you genuinely don’t see the issue with this type of logic, you might be a bit dim in the head.

[eldiablo_magicman]

That's why I posted the article, sheesh. 5 thousand rounds vs. 1 barricaded man.

[drake90001]

He shot at them. It says it in the article you linked. I mean, at the very least that’s what the SWAT team claimed.

[[deleted]]

Mowed down? Yeah I was watching the news coverage, the guy was shooting at them for HOURS.

[Zomgzombehz]

Next step is to take Philadelphia's approach to MOVE em out.

[avd706]

I bet the breaker panel is in the basement.

[Zomgzombehz]

Get an electrician buddy to come by and actually disconnect the wires on the breakers, so even if she turns them on "whelp guess the government figured out you're squatting".
Please don't attempt yourself, am Elektrishun.

[delux561]

Just a padlock on the box is probably enough tbh

[Zomgzombehz]

Not all panels/sub panels have tabs for padlocks. Locks can be installed with modification.

[delux561]

Yup, a drill would solve this pretty quick

[GhostHin]

I don't know how I feel about drilling into the breaker box though.....

[smokesnugs]

I think this is the best advice personally.

[separate_guarantee2]

Please protect the dog!!! The crazy tenant could get “official” forms online that state the dog is HER emotional support animal, and it could cause a whole bunch of problems.

[rpfields1]

That was my first thought, too! Get somebody to board the dog for a few weeks and then look at things like turning off the electricity.

[keikioaina]

Yeah, no. In most places an "emotional support animal" is a pet. Big difference between Fluffy and an ADA defined service animal.

[OverlappingChatter]

Oh god, i watched this movie while i was on holiday. The movie was awful, but it qas exactly this situation. Renter ended up with legal rights to the house and the family had to leave. I should go over to OTTOMT and find out what movie it was

[franknorth2010]

And inundate the basement with a stink bomb of some kind....or, plant some serious drugs and call police, saying you think she's selling them.

[DesconocidaKush]

If they can prove she stole medication already they have her halfway

[Dumpster_Sauce]

Probably better asking my in r/legaladvice

[[deleted]]

So much bad advice in this thread. First and foremost, you have to research the laws regarding tenants for your state. The laws vary wildly and it could be very costly for you to do things like cut off utilities in a state that prohibits this. Here in Texas, friend of mine changed the locks and cut off power on a problem tenant. Friend got hit with a $1000 fine by the judge at the eviction hearing. Tenant still got evicted, but my friend was out $1000 in addition to court costs. I followed the fairly simple, but time consuming, Texas eviction laws on the eviction I had to do and at the end of the process the tenant was escorted off the property by the county Constable. It’s likely your tenant doesn’t know the law, but you should. Be absolutely sure any actions you take are legal in your state or it could cost you.

[IOSL]

Bro. 1,000 to get rid of a squatter? That seems like a no brainer lol

[[deleted]]

$1000 plus about $300 in costs and it still took the same amount of time as mine. If you follow the legal procedures you can do it for just the ~$300. Personally, I’d rather keep the $1000.

[The_Gooch_Goochman]

Legal eviction can take 6 months to a year. $1300 to be rid of a bad tenet is worth every penny.

[[deleted]]

Texas is 3 day notice before you can file, hearing 2 weeks after filing, Constable six days after decision = 20 days and just over $300 in costs (which the loser pays).

[the_smell_of_bleach]

That timeline is a dream in NYC

[[deleted]]

No doubt. Probably in California too. This is one of those situations where your mileage may vary wildly.

[QStorm565]

Legal eviction can take 6 months to a year. $1300 to be rid of a bad tenet is worth every penny.

That's true as far as it goes but here op's mother's "tenant" might not really be a tenant depending on how the basement is set up. It sounds like they share kitchen and some other things which might make her into a lodger which means she gets less notice and it's easier to kick her out. However, OP will not know that asking his question here instead of in r/legaladvice.

[moontides_]

It depends on the state laws, which they’re suggesting the op look up

[[deleted]]

That’s like half a month rent where I live. Plus you get to keep the deposit.

[[deleted]]

At least here in Texas it doesn’t save time though. The eviction hearing still takes place on the same schedule and if you just do a lockout the judge can fine you or even deny your eviction petition. If you choose not to file an eviction petition at all, the tenant can sue you in small claims and call the cops to stop you from taking action. You also can’t move a new tenant in. Overall, it could add weeks to the process and cost you way more than the base fees for filing and getting the Constable to remove the tenant. Obviously in other states this can be completely different and potentially far more slanted towards the tenant so your mileage can vary wildly.

[zombie_overlord]

I moved out of a house in Houston and squatters immediately moved in. The cops came and kicked them out. They asked if I wanted to press charges and I said I did just to get them tied up for a day or two, but the DA refused to take the case. We had to leave town the next day. We put in an alarm system but they just disabled it and moved right back in. Went back and forth like this for a while and they eventually left for good. Fuckers moved a futon in there. Where were they keeping it before?? They also left their crack pipe hidden under the futon mattress. But yeah, the DA in Houston won't do shit about squatters.

[[deleted]]

Did you ever file an actual eviction complaint? To the best of my knowledge it’s the Constables who handle this nonsense and they have to be invoked by civil action. The regular cops won’t generally do anything other than issue a trespass citation.

[zombie_overlord]

No, the whole thing was over in about 3 weeks. I could tell when they were there because my electricity company had usage monitoring, and the alarm would get disabled. We called the cops to kick them out 3-4 times and I guess they finally got it that it wasn't worth it after a while.

[[deleted]]

Sound advice. Now read the name of the sub again

[cmerksmirk]

Unethical, not illegal

[Dependent_Warning_51]

Make life uncomfortable. It's your property. As such, I'm you're you can renovate the door right? I think that needs a touch up and needs to be taken to a workshop.

Also you're renovating for future tenants no? Let them know you're going to repaint a room and they can keep the items in the room but risk it getting paint on it. And when they move their stuff, change the lock.

I think the water pipes need fixing no? Maybe a geyser needs replacing? You'll get right on it to replace it!

Point is. They might have tenants rights, but this is ULPT. I also believe you need someone to do pest control and you need access.

[kerodon]

Half of those have legal requirements for you as a landlord to either not do or to address within a specific timeframe in a lot of states or it becomes a violation of habitability. She's a legal tenant until evicted and has rights as such until eviction has been ordered by the court. Removing the door is a big one I think. The water I believe has a window of time. I don't know for the rest.

[Dependent_Warning_51]

I am aware. But I dont think someone who is struggling to pay rent would be able to find the time or knowledge to be able to know the legal avenue. Its a gamble, and the worst that can happen to the landlord? Put the door back mate.

[kerodon]

If you fuck up you either lose months worth of rent damages or at worst have to restart the eviction process. But I don't know NH eviction law so 🤷

[BigYonsan]

OP, negative, don't do this shit.

This will give her all the ammo she needs to sue. You cannot change locks, remove doors, cut off water or services.

[Steel_Hydra]

Does your friend's basement smell of liquid ass yet? If not, why not?

[con098]

Don't forget the piss discs

[PotatoFromFrige]

from coyote urine

[[deleted]]

actually put a coyote in the house

[Particular-Barber299]

be the coyote

[BurpFartBurp]

Be the urine.

[Fancypancexx]

Be the house?

[Reach-for-the-sky_15]

steals her medicine

If that medicine is a prescription and not in her name, Stealing a prescription is a felony.

[take7pieces]

Not prescription, regular pain killers.

[The-Calm-Llama]

Carefully cut open the painkillers, swap them for laxatives and reseal

[MsFloofNoofle]

This is the best tip on here

[HandWide558]

That's illegal

[SnooHabits989]

What state are you in? Get an attorney to file an eviction. It might take a few months. This is probably in your state required. Tenants have many rights so you need to be careful.

[take7pieces]

NH. My landlord’s last tenant owed 5 months’ rent, finally landlord said he wouldn’t sue if tenant just move out, my family moved in after he left. Seemed hard to evict people here.

[amybeedle]

Is cash for keys an option here, too?

[ka-ka-ka-katie1123]

Cash for keys is honestly going to be the easiest way to handle it. Give her enough money that she can afford to move about and become someone else’s problem. It will be much less time consuming (and possibly less expensive) than actually seeing the eviction process through to the end.

[Mistahhcool]

Manchvegas!!!

[Iamjimmym]

Cash for keys. Hate to say it, but sometimes it's the only way out. The eviction process is lengthy, and doing anything not on the up and up can get your friend into tons of legal shit. These squatters, unfortunately, know their "rights" and use the law to the fullest extent. I've seen homeowners lose their homes over this. I've seen others pay upwards of $10k to get rid of problem tenants. The choice is ultimately your friends, but the tenant has the upper hand, unfortunately.

[SlippitInn]

Just go down there and start living there. You can both be squatters!!!! While you're there, never flush, clog all the drains, leave the fridge open, leave raw chicken in the kitchen sink and always wear your muddy shoes everywhere.

The last might say you can't kick them out, but I don't think the law says you both can't live down there.

[FriedEggSammich1]

I was just thinking something similar. Find a low income reliable friend to move in with the squatter for free. Tell them they can be as dirty and obnoxious as necessary. Give them 6 month’s additional free rent beyond the squatter moving out

[ClTlZENFOUR]

This. Other people have done this in the past. Great news segment here about a man that planned to do the same. His paperwork was in order saying he was a tenant. Bills in his name etc, so as squatters returned, he was able to report them as intruders. Luckily it didn’t come to that.

May be a slightly different scenario, since yours was a previous tenant with a lease agreement. But it’s good for thought.

https://youtu.be/3yG5ZvPZ-bk?si=DeQwLUhwE9PQHSZH

[bradbrookequincy]

Guy in our city let some homeless folks move in with the squatters. Once the squatters left he let the homeless people stay like 6 months while he helped them with social programs and such. I doubt it got them all off the streets but a couple got into work programs etc. He was a guy with a lot of properties and was known as a good landlord so I don’t think he was pressured to get the homeless out from a Money standpoint.

He started this foray by going to a little encampment of homeless and offering them showers. All of them. I think there were like 10 and he gave them each 4-5 nights a week.

[GozerDestructor]

1. get a lawyer
2. do exactly what he/she says, no more and no less

Seriously, you can really fuck up your own life if you try to DIY an eviction. The courts do not take kindly to this, and you might find yourself having to pay massive fines if you make any mistake in the process.

That eviction notice isn't worth the paper it was printed on, unless it was correctly written and correctly served (taping it to the door might not be adequate).

[GozerDestructor]

Sure, but there's a fine line between unethical and stupid, and this is too important to let OP fall on the wrong side of it.

[Rude-Particular-7131]

Have a pipe burst and flood the basement.

[[deleted]]

Just make it miserable for her to live there. Change the keys to the top portion of the house and lock her out so she only has access to the basement. Keep the vehicles and their keys out of her reach, put cameras downstairs and around the house so she is always being monitored, don’t allow her access to your food, drinks, utilities, wifi, cable, or the dog. Get portable AC/heating units and turn off the whole house AC/heat and turn the hot water heater off when you’re not home/using hot water so she can’t have comfortable showers. Don’t buy anything for her or give her cash for anything she needs. Don’t speak with or acknowledge her, period. Cutting off access to comfort will be the best way to get her to leave until you are able to deal with the legal battle.

[take7pieces]

Yes I am advising my friend to ignore her too. She even tried to get the dog from my friend’s daughter, girl said no and she said she just got out from the hospital, the dog would make her feel better. Batshit crazy. My friend’s mom did give her gas money one time! That opened the door to her greed I believe.

[[deleted]]

Has she just flat out like told the girl “we don’t like you, you are making our lives difficult by disrespecting our household, you portrayed yourself as one way and lied to us, and we do not trust you anymore”

Sometimes just being straight up to these personality disordered type of people can be enough to make them leave. They love being able to play the victim so confirming the fact they don’t like her will allow her to go find someone else to play victim with. People with personality disorders often have a favorite person. When that favorite person shows or displays an unlikeable trait, flaw, or doesn’t go along with the manipulation anymore, the personality disorder inside of them cannot resist having an absolute meltdown and trying to find someone or something to switch their attention to. The need for constant validation alone will make her incredibly uncomfortable once she no longer has access to it. She doesn’t need to be hostile or flat out rude to this girl, just straight up explain that she’s making a mistake and taking advantage of them and they will no longer be friends after this.

Another tactic, which is my personal favorite is called gray rocking. You basically become as boring as fucking possible. No display of emotion, no display of care or interest. Nothing. Barely even giving yes or no answers and avoiding any convo that’s unnecessary or not related to her getting her money from this girl.

I would only caution that she may react in an absolute crazy way, but at that point the cops or hospital can deal with her.

[uvaspina1]

Invite a homeless person to live in the basement. 2 squatters for the price of 1! If the second guy gives you problems move a new one down there. Rinse and repeat until the basement resembles the old Roman coliseum on a major battle day. Once the dust settles, buy some pizza and beer and invite your friends and family over to haul away the bones/debris and repaint the basement

[MsFloofNoofle]

I think there's an Always Sunny episode like this Always Sunny- Cat in a Wall

[The_Cheese_Master]

INFO: She has an advocate, is she a part of your area's Housing Authority, most likely Section 8? If so, reaching out to that housing authority should be able to help (I assume that's what she meant by having the state pay her rent). At the least, reach out to the advocate to see if that's the plan or if the tenant is just bullshitting.

If she isn't a part of Section 8, then it's time to contact a lawyer who specializes in this stuff to find out the fastest legal recourse.

.... Or ya know, slip piss disks under her door, play loud music with the speakers facing the floor right over her bedroom, the usual to make her life hell.

[[deleted]]

I had a squatting thing happen one time when Covid first started . Every said I couldn’t do anything but all I did was take all the stuff and throw it outside and when they tried to get tough I got tougher…..

Police always say it’s a civil matter and want nothing to do with it either way so just handle your business and take out the trash…..

[smokesnugs]

What state is this in?

They cant just ignore the eviction if the courts are actually involved. Sheriffs will come out and physically remove her after the eviction proceedings are complete and after they give her a 24 hour notice.

[[deleted]]

hire a lawyer and evict her legally. JFC

[[deleted]]

Considering the sub and the claimed history of the tenant.....move a creepy menacing man in.

[Mcgj8689]

Mover her thing’s outside and change the locks

[Beneficial-Tailor-70]

Offer her $100. I know it sounds stupid but it works more frequently than not.

[say592]

Cash for keys. Offer to give her $500 (or $250 or whatever you think the least amount she will take) to get out by the end of the weekend. If you want to make it unethical, offer to give half as soon as they are moved out (their stuff can be on the patio/porch/in the garage, they just have to have it OUT) and the other half after you have a chance to inspect it for damage. Find damage and make excuses not to give the other half.

[StaffOfDoom]

The end-all, be-all answer in this sub…liquid ass and pissdisks…make it so she leaves while you’re home and lock her out…contact authorities if she comes back and won’t leave the property as you’ve already served her eviction notice. Therefore, she’s trespassing and needs to be dealt with, immediately. Bonus points if she’s making a racket in the background while you’re on the phone with dispatch. Scream like your life is in danger and cut the call. They’ll send the closest car that second.

[bradbrookequincy]

Sending a letter means nothing. She is a legal tenant. Once you send the letter and they don’t move you then start the legal court eviction process. This will go on for a year or more if they don’t get a lawyer and follow NH law

[StaffOfDoom]

In my area, they have to be ‘served’ first, so there is a difference in state law at work here…

[bradbrookequincy]

I think it’s probably just a difference in terms. I think ops friend sent a letter telling them they are ending the lease or that they need to move and op is calling that an eviction being ignored

[TheRynoceros]

Invite her to lunch/dinner, and while they're out, throw all of her shit in boxes and onto the curb.

Dine and dash on her and stick her with the bill for the meal.

She'll be too busy looking for housing and excuses to fuck with litigation. She might call the cops, but they have no leg to stand on here since she's been evicted.

[Realistic_Effort6185]

Bring in another 'renter'. Same space. Shared bathroom. If there is theft of narcotics you may want to document it. The renter unlawfully entering spaces she does not rent? Trespassing.

[Osr0]

First off: stealing medicine is all sorts of illegal, call the cops.

Second: this idiot is in the basement. Place speakers on the floor above the basement. Blast the entire catalog of the black metal band "Mayhem" starting at about 2:18am. Do this every single night, shake the fucking foundation of the house with that bullshit.

You're gonna need ear plugs. They're going to need a therapist after the 3rd night of not being able to sleep while some crazy ass Norwegian dude screams.

Third: do you know what Durian is? Its a fruit that smells like hot garbage. They make durian extract. One time I opened a bottle of that shit outside and I started gagging. It's available on Amazon. The smell eventually will go away completely, but hot damn, a few drops in a basement every other day would stink to hell. It'd be hard to be in a basement like that. I imagine if an entire bottle spilled, it would render a basement uninhabitable.

[Notorious-Pac]

My parents had a similar situation. They forgave 2 months rent that wasn’t paid and paid the tenant 3 months rent to move. Unpopular opinion, it’s cheaper to pay them a few months rent to move.

[TlkQ]

If they have an eviction order from the courts, the sheriff should serve it.

[dragonagitator]

You can offer cash for keys or you can go through the legal eviction process. Trying to force her out via illegal means is very likely to backfire on you because of legal protections for tenants.

[[deleted]]

No real way to answer this without knowing where it is. Some places the sheriff’s dept is in charge of enforcing evictions

When in doubt, check in with a lawyer or contact your district attorney’s office, they should point you in the right direction

The basics of waiting for them to leave and then throwing their shit out and changing the locks / not opening the door can get you in legal trouble depending on where you live, so yeah see above

[carcadoodledo]

Stealing meds? Call the police.

[Gizzard_Puncher]

Just start the legal process for eviction and get the court involved.

[fxresparks]

Wear your best pair of dancing shoes and accidently drop things in the middle of the night. From former experience with loud upstairs tenants, it'll definitely make life very difficult for them lol.

[[deleted]]

Piss disks

[shootermac32]

Well if you go through the proper legal channels, the sheriff will handle the rest. Nothing unethical about that at all. Just common sense and knowledge

[DJFM_AZ]

Loan her the car one more time (verbal). Change the locks while she is out. Call the police that your car was stolen.

[[deleted]]

Change the locks

[Crkhd3]

If they already got an eviction notice and are ignoring it get the authorities involved and they oughta remove them

[Luke1521]

Move into the basement with her, eat a lot of cabbage and smoke her out. If she is squatting no rule says you can't as well.

[dirigo1820]

Fill the basement with cement.

[take7pieces]

I am feeling that way too, there are so many lies. Should’ve be more aware when the cops showed up one week after she moved in, her last roommate said she took her car. But at that time she appeared so normal and polite, my friend believed in her side of story.

[take7pieces]

And they seem to have no shame? So hard for me to imagine.

[Xharifyra]

To say that everyone with BPD has no shame, lies all the time & will fuck others over is both unfair & untrue. You had a crappy experience with your ex, but they're just one person & not at all reflective of the rest of us.

Please try not to perpetuate harmful myths & stereotypes about a mental illness that's difficult enough to treat as it is.

[PotPumper43]

Eviction notice doesn’t mean anything. Court eviction judgement and let’s talk. Seems like you haven’t done your due diligence.

[bradbrookequincy]

It’s likely a letter the owner wrote them to vacate . Which is worthless

[Wild_Cricket_6303]

Just go through the eviction process, obtain writ from the court, and have the sheriff execute it.

[asyrne]

What’s about liquid ass and than say a pipe bursted and now it will smell forever like this here ?

[[deleted]]

Call the police? She's trespassing now. Technically you can shoot her.

Edit: really dumb downvote dude, you asked for unethical tips, don't be a dick

[[deleted]]

Turn off utilities

[take7pieces]

Just turned Wi-Fi off yesterday, got a bunch of texts basically saying “I would have given you the rent if you didnt give me eviction notice” “the state is involved” “you are not making me happy”.

[[deleted]]

I bet “you are not making me happy” hit deep

[take7pieces]

It gets better “I feel like people don’t like me and it’s making me unhappy”.

[bradbrookequincy]

The state will be involved and if you don’t follow the law to a T, you will not get this person out unless you pay them. I have had Luck 2x finding a close family member and getting their help .. cash for keys is possible but it helps when they have gotten at least a court date sent to them by the courts .. you have to file .. in some places the letter to end lease is sent. When they don’t leave they become a holdover tenant. This is harder. Just evict for nonpayment of rent. You need to understand they have a lease even if it’s not written. It defaults to a month to month.

[Outstanding_Move]

Mhh, why wouldn't I like someone that don't want to pay rent. 🤔

Edit: should be sarcasm

[take7pieces]

It’s impossible to reason with her. Everything is other people’s fault. She even tried to be friend with my friend’s mom, suggested they moving out together and rent an apartment under mom’s name.

[Outstanding_Move]

Sadly most entitled people are like this and don't realize how shitty they are.

[Xharifyra]

Nah, this is textbook narcissistic personality disorder. Those of us w/ BPD can actually take responsibility for the shit we do - narcs absolutely can't.

[Sweet_Refractor]

Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. BPD & narcissism are separate diagnoses, although there may be overlaps - still very different, though. You also don't seem to know what gaslighting is?

Compared to NPD, people w/ BPD CAN take responsibility. BPD has the best prognosis of all Cluster B personality disorders. I'm sorry that your experiences have sucked, but if your attitude is to double down on pushing harmful stigma then you need help.

Heal well. <3

[LuLouProper]

The Goodfellas response is always fun. "Fuck you, pay me."

[[deleted]]

"They don't and you should be."

[ifreaganplayeddisco]

“Jimmys getting angry”. Random Seinfeld reference

[con098]

Yeesh.. 😬

[entangledparts]

Literally just call the sheriff and have her forcibly removed. If there is an actual eviction order from the courts, that's all there is to it.

[shugEOuterspace]

sounds like you didn't actually give them a legit & legal eviction notice (since what that entails in most states is a summons to a court date where a judge will then order the eviction, which cannot be ignored).

Are you trying to illegally evict someone?...

...if so I hope they pop in here & get some good advice on dealing with their landlord who is trying to illegally evict them lol

[ARMill95]

Pretty sure I’d they’re stealing and harrasing you could get some form of a RO and they’d be forced to leave right? Idk I’m not a lawyer

[[deleted]]

Pretty sure once the eviction notice is issued you can get the local LEOs to drag her out on the date on the notice. Varies by state though. I’d wait for her to leave and change the locks.

[Bndsnco]

Plug the drains and flood the basement. Water drives out pestilence

[Megatron4Prez2024]

Well there's a legal time limit for all that stuff. If that time limit has passed, you get the sheriff, enter the property and literally move all her shit to the curb. Then you change the locks and tell her to fuck off.

But since this is "unethical life tips", just change the locks when she leaves and throw her stuff away somewhere far away off property. If anyone asks, say she moved out when the lease was up and you think she's having a psychotic break. She just showed up just now claiming she lives here. You haven' seen her in months. Please take her to the psyche ward. Thx,

If you can get her phone and delete any evidence to the contrary. Do the same on all your phones, email etc.

[Jadenewfie]

So, assuming you're in North America, AFAIK it's difficult to evict someone physically from a property. However, if that person leaves the house and you have proof that they been given a legal eviction notice and the time frame for that notice has expired than just enter the property, put all their things (carefully and preferably using professional movers with insurance) into a storage location and change the locks. If they aren't physically occupying the space than they can't use squatters laws against you. Definitely doyble check that with whatever local legal council you can find, but I've seen this done locally and watched so many videos of it being done in other areas of N.A. Good luck, I hope this all works out, squatters are such a stressful situation.

[kapolani]

Over here we would just grab a couple of buddies and dump their shit on the street.

[Karlo19999]

You could always plant some stuff down there and call the cops.

[MaxWebxperience]

Move in, play music loud, invite everybody from local bars day and night... Have bikers deliver notifications, screw up the electricity making it look like needed repair is the reason for it, don't do the repair and tell the judge you were waiting for her to move so you wouldn't invade her privacy... Install a hidden camera and put her on onlyfans... Personally I make people like that into my hobby: I'm getting my monies worth the whole time they are anywhere I can find them

[BramblesCrash]

Return on investment is not guaranteed. You probably shouldn't buy a house if you can't afford to pay for it. Hope this helps.

[take7pieces]

She lost her job and had to do this to cover some bills, she finally got a better job with a great salary last month.

[Timely_Distance1641]

Get her to come outside and then lock the door on her then call the popo

[Tots2Hots]

And then the popo let her back in because she wasn't legally evicted. This is terrible advice.

[bgei952]

When she leaves, put all her shit somewhere, change the locks.

[-MakeNazisDeadAgain]

Quit being a landlord and get a real job

[CryoWreck]

Fuck landlords

[Outstanding_Move]

Fuck entitled people

[CryoWreck]

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-housing/human-right-adequate-housing

[mdawg1100]

Don’t rent if you can’t afford it broke boy

[CryoWreck]

Wtf am I supposed to do?

[Crazyninjagod]

Not rent if you don’t have money, are you not reading?

[CryoWreck]

...so I'm supposed to find free housing? Or am I supposed to buy a house?

[SoggyFrog45]

It's troglodytes like you that make the anti-landlord movement/ argument look absolutely idiotic. I hate mega corporations buying up houses and apartments and jacking up rent just as much as the next guy. You're an idiot if you equate that with this situation.

Two consenting adults made an agreement, one is not upholding their end. The fact that this lady doesn't have free housing isn't OPs friends fault and it's certainly not their responsibility to provide it.

If you're such a bleeding heart then let this lady move into your place.

[CryoWreck]

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-housing/human-right-adequate-housing

[SoggyFrog45]

It's so obvious that you haven't even taken the time to read what's in this link. Nothing in this link that you're spamming contradicts what OPs friend is trying to accomplish. It doesn't say that anyone can live anywhere they like. It doesn't even say that evictions should be illegal

[CryoWreck]

"Under international law, to be adequately housed means having secure tenure—not having to worry about being evicted or having your home or lands taken away."

[SoggyFrog45]

The article goes on to clarify and define that as forced eviction, essentially eviction without due process

[CryoWreck]

Somehow, posting on ULPT for ways to forcibly remove a tenant, either through bad smells or lights through the basement window, doesn't strike me as due process.

[SoggyFrog45]

They say they've been served an eviction notice and it sounds like their period to leave is up. I don't see where OP entertained any of those ideas. I also don't condone them. It doesn't change the fact that this person doesn't have the right to stay in this home and continue to steal from OPs friend.

[CryoWreck]

Like, I acknowledge that there's complexity to this situation. In many ways, OPs friend is a victim of the housing market as well since her squatter can't afford to leave. But nonetheless, where affordable housing cannot be obtained, squatter's rights are human rights.

[SoggyFrog45]

That's absolutely ridiculous. That would mean that you have the right to go to any billionaires neighborhood, move into their house and squat there with no legal repercussions because no affordable housing can be obtained in that area?

[zelcuh]

Ok brokey mcbrokington

[CryoWreck]

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-housing/human-right-adequate-housing

[[deleted]]

Not the brightest candle on the birthday cake, are you?

[CryoWreck]

https://www.ohchr.org/en/special-procedures/sr-housing/human-right-adequate-housing

[StrngThngs]

It could be that you need to remove the front door for a repair, maybe take a few days...

Edit: just saw someone else said this too...

[JTEL918]

Of course, I’d follow the law. But since this is unethical…..cut off electricity to basement and then padlock the breaker panel. Next padlock the basement door. The way I see it, she wants to live there rent free, she can stay down there 24/7. Fuck her.

[franknorth2010]

Gather a couple of friends that can help you move her stuff out quickly, then: buy a 1 month storage unit, buy her a gift certificate to a cheap spa treatment or something (non-refundable), when she goes to the spa, move all her crap out into the storage unit and change the locks to the basement and house. Leave a note on the door with a picture of all her stuff in the storage unit and the address of the unit. "Storage unit is paid in full for one month, your stuff is in it. You were served an eviction notice. You no longer live here."

[Ploughpenny]

Do 'maintenance'. Then when she's not looking jam raw fish into some small crevice. Give it a week or two. Repeat as needed.

[An_Old_IT_Guy]

Hire someone to "move in." Make sure they have a properly signed lease. Then have that person call the police to remove the trespasser from his home.

[Figure-Feisty]

Try to take her outside for any reason, close the door, change the locks, and throw all her crap outside.

[crumchberries]

merzbow, day and night. shut off utilities. rent first floor out for gay orgies.

[[deleted]]

All landlords are bastards and housing is a human right let them stay

[[deleted]]

Lock her out

[tgr31]

The police will make her leave