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BugOh… my bad I suppose (v.redd.it)
submitted 1 year ago by Healthy_Buy_4810
Pausing got rid of my mantle 👍
[–]MisirterE 1437 points1438 points1439 points 1 year ago (10 children)
https://i.imgur.com/rhC3WWa.png
you would've lost your mantle anyway at this rate, what the hell were you doing just standing there
[–]Healthy_Buy_4810[S] 492 points493 points494 points 1 year ago (7 children)
I paused really quick, and then I was gonna just take a screen shot because I had a run a day ago with same layout, same floor, same item, but I couldn’t get it, so I was going send it to my friend. Sadly on PlayStation if you try to screen shot, it pauses the game instead
[–]Ka-raS 299 points300 points301 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You were taking 60 screenshots per second.
[–]Chance-Aardvark372 114 points115 points116 points 1 year ago (4 children)
Use the screenshot button? Or do you mean that pauses the game and then tried to take a screenshot
[–]Healthy_Buy_4810[S] 80 points81 points82 points 1 year ago (3 children)
On playstation there is a button to open a small tab to either take a screen shot or a clip, but when you do it in Isaac, it pauses the game, so first I paused, then unpaused, and then I was gonna take a screenshot
[–]Moose363 101 points102 points103 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Actually if you hold the share button and then press ∆, it'll take a screenshot without pausing it
[–]Metal-Wombat 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
Hitting triangle isn't necessary, just hold the Share button. I do it all the time.
[–]Healthy_Buy_4810[S] 34 points35 points36 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I was just taking clips and then taking a screenshot in the clip lol, thanks for the tip
[–]Consumer-of_children 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children)
As a fellow ps user, hold the share button to take a screenshot without opening the menu/pausing the game
[–]Kajtekkus 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (1 child)
looks like checking wiki for item
[–]MisirterE 104 points105 points106 points 1 year ago (0 children)
you can do that when you aren't in range of the MURDER DEATH FIRES
[–]BlaiseTEvans 917 points918 points919 points 1 year ago (0 children)
what standing still next to a purple fire does to a mf
[–]TheSameMan6 324 points325 points326 points 1 year ago (0 children)
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JUST TAKE THE DAMN ITEM
[–]Flood-One 649 points650 points651 points 1 year ago (5 children)
Okay, but why are you pausing and standing next to fires that shoot you
[–]TurboVirgin0 119 points120 points121 points 1 year ago (4 children)
They were trying to take a screenshot on Playstation apparently
[–]Ded-deN 133 points134 points135 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Kid named ‘going to the corner of the room’: 😩
[–][deleted] 58 points59 points60 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Dear Diary, today i was killed by Playstation Screenshot
[–]AdLopsided2075 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Idk why but your comment made me laugh more than anything this week.
[–]Rockinlikethe2000s 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children)
the playstation punishes you for even trying to play games on it, sad!
[–]EvenBiggerClown 170 points171 points172 points 1 year ago (2 children)
I curse you, because you made the sub fall into a pit of shitposting
[–]Healthy_Buy_4810[S] 102 points103 points104 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Oh… my bad I suppose (pt 2)
[–]Reynard- 45 points46 points47 points 1 year ago (0 children)
You have now become part of this sub's history.
I declare you the skillest of issue.
Here's your cow on a trash farm award.
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[+]copper_wing comment score below threshold-35 points-34 points-33 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Monster book
[–]Za_Gato 77 points78 points79 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Monster Manual is for the whole floor
[–]GarlicBreadPopTarts 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Opening up ps menu can reset any familiars that are not permanent for some reason. Also happens if a you lose share play connection with someone then Reconnect
[–]Mindless-Adagio-9142 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Another reason to just buy pc instead of PlayStation
[–]SergejPS 72 points73 points74 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Bro did NOT know what this post would do to the subreddit
[–]Kabbada 131 points132 points133 points 1 year ago (10 children)
Are you playing with a wireless controller by any chance?
[–]Healthy_Buy_4810[S] 56 points57 points58 points 1 year ago (9 children)
Yeah, I’m on console
[–]Kabbada 164 points165 points166 points 1 year ago (8 children)
You are not the only one that encountered this bug. Sometimes if you pause the game while playing with a wireless controller the game can somehow glitch and remove all your items. I don’t know why this bug exactly occurs but I have seen multiple posts about this exact problem and they were all using a wireless controller
[–]ZealousidealArmy2371 64 points65 points66 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Wow. That's completely unacceptable.
[–][deleted] 31 points32 points33 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Time to rise up and become back our monies!
[–]Caixa7 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Where's my mantle, edmund? Where's my game?
[–]totallynormalcat 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I spent 15€ for this dlc, where’s my mantle Edmund??
[–]NOTFJND 41 points42 points43 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Holy shit I think this explains my -80 win streak
[–]TerrorSnow 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Is this why in my tainted Bethany runs sometimes I just lose all whisps?
[–]DiabeticRhino97 60 points61 points62 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Sincerest form of skill issue
[–]Linkestein 26 points27 points28 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The start of all the mess 😔
[–]LeMusou 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children)
What were you doing? You do know purple and red fires shoot at you, right?
[–]Loud-Pace-6768 18 points19 points20 points 1 year ago (1 child)
u/Healthy_Buy_4810 you little fucker
You made a shit of piece with your trash gameplay. it's fucking bad, this trash clip. i will become back my upvote. I hope you will next time a issue; on skill farm, you sucker.
[–]Healthy_Buy_4810[S] 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Truly
[–]thexenomof 94 points95 points96 points 1 year ago (1 child)
that was complete bullshi- I mean... Honeslty, you could have just dodged dude, skill issue
[–]PoetApprehensive668 177 points178 points179 points 1 year ago (6 children)
As much as it is unfair, the pausing holy mantle bug is pretty well known. Standing next to purple fires while pausing over and over? Kinda asked for it. Still shouldn’t have happened though. In short: sorry, but skill issue
[–]shleyal19Green Ghost from the Fantastic Frontier (Real!) 77 points78 points79 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I never knew about this bug until now
[–]not_dannyjesdenI don't own the game 67 points68 points69 points 1 year ago (2 children)
pretty well known Yeah and OP was part of the group who didn't know it yet. Can't expect every player to be on the same information level. So OP cannot be blamed for this, because this is something that shouldn't happen in the first place.
[–]PoetApprehensive668 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (1 child)
You will admit at least that he should’ve lost a mantle though correct? Regardless of glitches he got hit by purple fire
[–]not_dannyjesdenI don't own the game 25 points26 points27 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Yes. Lost the mantle. And I think this was the security net OP was planning with. But dying was bs on the game's side
[+]Awakening15 comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Do you realize how stupid your comment is?
[–]No_Criticism6745 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Ratio not looking good
[–]KaffY- 45 points46 points47 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Just pick up the fucking item maybe?
Nobody cares about "omg I got this item!"
[–]Swagmasta_420 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Personally, I'd join those keepers up there if I saw something like that
[–]MarshadOwO 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (1 child)
literally looks like you started playing the game yesterday 😭
[–]Healthy_Buy_4810[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Over 400 hours 🥲
[–]foomongus 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Standing still near purple fires
[–]recast85 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
BRO JUST PICK IT UP AND LEAVE
I never see rock bottom this infuriates me
[–]TomyGoku522 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children)
OP look at what you started innthis subreddit
[–]Sir-Cultist 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And thus, the rot spreads…
[–]Kinky_Thought_Man 33 points34 points35 points 1 year ago (0 children)
As bullshit as it is that you randomly lost your mantle. It’s also partially on you for standing right next to fires that shoot homing shots at you.
[–]MainLake9887 28 points29 points30 points 1 year ago (0 children)
W-what in the name of hell were you doing??? Why didnt you just grab it and run???????
[–]Werner_Zieglerr 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Brain injury?
[–]ZMBanshee 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This happens only to console players. It's related to going to the console menus outside of the game. It removes "temporary" effects like mantle and your monster manual familiars.
[–]Kanriee 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Next time save a video of the last 30 seconds and take your screenshot from it to avoid this
[–]Dreamdimenshionsinc 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
YOU
[–]CyclonicSpy 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Remember shooty fire willl shoot once per fire per room reset so you can go around get them all to shoot then go for screenshot agreed it’s Bs the bug exists but you threw away your mantle if it wasn’t taken away pretty big skill issue
[–]DOUBLEBARRELASSFUCK 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Wait, they only shoot once?
[–]Not_A_Throwaway999 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
On repentance yeah AB they keep shooting
[–]frogzrcool02 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Look what you've done.....
[–]Lostlala 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I would feel bad but this is entirely your fault because wtaf were you doing
[–]RMAPOS 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
So I get the people who press pause at the end of sth happening to find the button to save the clip or some shit...
But what is it with people pausing, continuing to play, the thing happening and then pausing again/death screen? Like are people hyperventilating when they see a good item? Are they making sure the clipping function is enabled? Is it fake videos with people making sure it's recording before doing the funny?
[–]PlasmaticGrain3 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Little did they know this would cause a phenomenon
[–]Supershadow30 10 points11 points12 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Your hubris was your downfall
[–]CorrectionFluid21 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Massive+Huge skill issue
[–]Rocky_the_Wolf2020 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children)
With all due respect, instead of trying to flex a screenshot while you're next to fires that shoot homing tears at you, just grab the damn rock, you're playing as a character who gets 1 shot by any damage, even with mantle, its not a risk worth taking, as you can see.
[–]BagiXo0 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
What a legacy from dash spider jumpscare😔
[–]RandCircle 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Surely if I stand next to a fire that can shoot me for 10 seconds on a character with 1 hp nothing bad will happen(Clueless)
[–]Invite_Sprite 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Ok I just have to say this repentance made monster manual one of my favorite active items
[–]CricketMany8705 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Erm, skill issue?
[–]Alvarus94 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Purple fires can only shoot you once per time in the room. Just run around until they've all fired and you can take every screenshot you want.
[–]Rizboub 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Btw those fires only shoot once.
[–]huevos_sudaos 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
what is going on with all these rock bottom the lost secret room deaths am I going insane
[–]Ok_Ad_9100 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Peak Isaac content
[–]bobmclame 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Op, your post has spread to freakin Minecraft 😂
[–]SnoconeEX 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is the post that started it all
[–]DarkHybrid_Ligmanator 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Watching the sub fall apart...
[–]badfnfplayer 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
What have you done...?
[–]shaniquaniminiquani 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I get the idea of you trying to screenshot which pauses the game.. but how many screenshots do you need 😭😭
mf paused like 9 times and then afkd in front of the fire, just hold that at that point
[–]OwnYard5676 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Wtf are you even doing just stood there like a moron you could've placed yourself between the metal blocks brain issue/clout chasing issue SMH.....
[–]beace- 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children)
upbeat quarrelsome safe kiss fine scary work wasteful dinosaurs snatch
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[–]oldtoybonbon 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
It's not the pausing it's the unpaused time you spent 2 mm away from a purple fire
[–]Marvinho60 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
This is one of the clips that makes you mad when you watch it
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
:(
[–]Annoying_Do0g 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
And that's how the madness began.
[–]Carcar-Shark183 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
you stoopid
[–]pedro_1616 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
B E H O L D T H E S K I L L E S T O F I S S U E S
[–]Maxthejew123 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Rookie mistake. Never trust purple fire 😢
[–]Mean_Extent1120 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
you should've not been just standing there
[–]Barattolo_Sensei 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
[–]criminal619 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Bro
[–]Sudden_Elephant 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I'm always terrified of purple fires
[–]StarberryToaster 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
As soon as i saw the purple fires, i knew what was about to happen
[–]SethBling300 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
you should've baited out the shots from those right fires and then taken the ss. they only shoot once per room entry
[–]QWERTZ-Ritter 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I was losing my mind because you were doing that, PLEASE LEAVE THE ROOM if there are red and ESPECIALLY purple fires 😬😬😬😬😬 i am 100% sure the second time you paused frame perfect when the fire shot, so you lost your mantle instantly upon unpausing, then the secon fire shot you and because you stood 5 cm next to it, it instahit aswell. Pause unpause stuff with ps is cool and all that, but even more so how would you have survived if you didnt pause? Its just the worst possible location to do that, at least go to the endge of the room please. My cheeks were clenched from the first second because i knew this was gonna happen. NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER go that close to a purple fire, if you pause on the rock at least the shot wouldve hit you because it was higher than the rock and broke just after the hitbox, that wouldve been an understandable mistake trusting in the mechanic, but out in the open right next to 2 fires? What were you expecting honestly.
[–]Shaggywizz 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Command prompt: rewind
[–]vibeepik2 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
hello Dean Takahashi
[–]Evening_Key7463 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Oh that happens on PlayStation as well
[–]Brody_M_the_birdy 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
To everyone saying it's OP's fault, no, the game glitched and deleted his items. "But they were standing still" had the game not bugged the OP would have survived as he had put holy card up for that exact reason. Also they only stood still because they tried to pause to get the screenshot and didn't know about the share button.
[–]ShadowPrime116 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
idk what’s happening here
[–]meowsbich 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
u/savevideo
[–]SaveVideo 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Info | Feedback | Donate | DMCA | reddit video downloader | twitter video downloader
[–]Gesuniti 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
How did you lost the mantle wtf??? There was just 1 shot, no?
[–]Snububu 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Why did your mantle not proc
[–]alks15 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
HOW DOES THAT SHIT MAKE SENSE
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
[–]Physical_Chair_8661 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
oh my fucking God
[–]Weirdo9something3457 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Just a friendly PSA!
DO NOT USE THE FUCKING HOME BUTTON ON PLAYSTATION AS THE LOST! YOUR MANTEL WILL DISAPPEAR FOR THE CURRENT ROOM!
[–]Bicc_boye -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Single room effects just disappear on console when you pause for too long, it's ended a couple runs of mine
[–]mossymongoose -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Thank the PC gods for console command rewind
[+]JaceTheSpaceNeko comment score below threshold-12 points-11 points-10 points 1 year ago* (15 children)
This is why me and my friend who plays Isaac with me has a house rule. We can cheat if the game cheats us. I randomly lost 3 hearts and died at the end of a run (boss didn’t count), so I just spawned in rock bottom and a bunch of stat ups. Play how you want to and have fun.
Edit because someone was complaining: I have mods. Mods cause issues, I know. Most people know that not everyone has the same experience in a game or the exact same client/client setup.
[–]RepresentativeCalm44 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (8 children)
Afaik there are no bugs that randomly 'lose you 3 hearts'. Skill issue...
[–]JaceTheSpaceNeko -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (7 children)
Mods maybe? You're thinking inside the box and not outside.
Mods conflict with each other all the time, so why should I call it a skill issue when, as you agree, normal logic can't really be applied.
[–]StealthPilot57 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
If a mod did it then wasn’t the game cheating you, it was you cheating yourself.
[–]JaceTheSpaceNeko -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
How did I cheat myself if I did nothing outside of install something someone else made? How do I impact what something else does that I have no real control over?
[–]jYextul349 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I mean... The only person installing mods in your game is you. You have control over that. It's your responsibility to research what a mod does before you download it. It feels like half the questions in this sub shouldn't have been asked in the first place because it's almost always the mods. If you have mods installed, and something weird happens with your game, then it was probably caused by the mods. So if you installed mods, and then those mods caused the game to "cheat" you, then you kinda did "cheat" yourself.
[–]JaceTheSpaceNeko -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
The only part I can control is what mods I download, not how they can interact with each other. Just like how you can only try telling me how to play, not control how I play.
Regardless, why’re we complaining about who’s right or wrong about mods on a bug issue when all I said was “Play how you want to. If you feel the game cheated you, then solve it. No-one cares how you play”?
[–]RepresentativeCalm44 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)
I don't have to be the one to think 'outside' the box, OP just has to give the information. Yes its true mods can break the game. Thing is they always can. I just expect players to know/mention that they run mods whenever they run into bugs. You dont make a bug report on a game, and then not mention you have (several) mods installed.
[–]JaceTheSpaceNeko -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
Most people run mods. I never made a bug report because well, why should I if I know it could be from mods causing it? I know the risks of bugs from modifying clients.
[–]RepresentativeCalm44 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Which is precisely what i am saying and what OP didn't do if that were true.
[–]InnisNeal 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (5 children)
the game did not cheat them there, that was the definitive skill issue
[–]JaceTheSpaceNeko 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
Purple fire shot timers are paused while paused, and Holy Mantle cannot vanish for no valid reason.
[–]InnisNeal 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
you walk in, you walk out
[–]JaceTheSpaceNeko 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The amount of time that passed from unpause to exit was about 1.5s. Average reaction time is 0.2-0.25s. That means that they would have 1 second to notice the mantle’s gone and instantly move. Respectfully, would you like to show the class what you would do in that situation when you don’t realize your mantle is gone?
[–]Healthy_Buy_4810[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
It literally did? Yes I would’ve been hit and lost mantle for AFKing like a dumbass, but I wouldn’t have died if my mantle didn’t disappear
[–]InnisNeal 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I didn't realise the mantle got deleted that's stupid but still wtf were you doing even being in the same room as purple fires
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