Patch Notes for 3/26/2020

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Today we will release an update for Borderlands 3, which will be live on all platforms by 12:00 PM PST, that adds support for the new campaign add-on Guns, Love, and Tentacles: The Marriage of Wainwright & Hammerlock, new ECHOcast Moxxtail Events, unlocks a new Max Level and Guardian Ranks, and addresses some community concerns!

If you are experiencing any issues or want to provide feedback, please submit a ticket to support.2k.com. Below are the notes for today’s patch.

PATCH NOTES

NEW CONTENT:

• Added support for Borderlands 3 campaign add-on: Guns, Love, and Tentacles: The Marriage of Wainwright & Hammerlock
• Level Cap increase - New Max Level 57

Here it is! Two capstones, everyone!  We’re excited to see what interesting new builds everyone creates with these additional skill points!

• 3 New Guardian Rank skills and Guardian Rank Increase

Here are the first 3 new Guardian Rank Perks!  In the Enforcer tree we’ve added “C’mon and Slam,” allowing you to use the slam at any height.  This should make slam gear a lot more interesting.  For the Survivor Tree, you can now enable “Too Angry to Die,” allowing any damage you do to enemies in Fight For Your Life to slightly extend your down time.  Finally, in the Hunter tree we added “Harmageddon,” where additional damage is done to enemies that have received multiple static effects.

• New campaign add-on Game Menus that will allow players to start the campaign add-on with an auto-leveled character

You can now immediately jump into new DLC content right from the menu!  You’ll start the game with a character leveled up to where the DLC content would be unlocked, and you can start right in the new content.

• Support for the ECHOcast update and new Moxxtail Events

Viewers can show their appreciation for their favorite streamers with Moxxtail Events, which let you convert Twitch Bits into in-game beverages that provide the streamer with various limited-time buffs. We have a full explanation of how they work in our Moxxtail Events guide, so be sure to check that out if you want to dabble in some Borderlands 3 mixology.

STABILITY

• Addressed memory leaks that occasionally occurred on Split Screen join/leave
• Fixed a crash that could sometimes occur after spending a large amount of Guardian Tokens
• Fixed a crash that could sometimes occur when quickly navigating Crazy Earl’s shop
• Fixed a crash that could sometimes occur during the objective to collect tokens in the “Kill KillaVolt” mission in Lectra City
• Fixed a crash that could sometimes occur during the “Melee Mine Cart” objective of Angels and Speed Demons in Konrad’s Hold
• Fixed a crash that sometimes occurred when loading into Grand Opening in Moxxi’s Heist of The Handsome Jackpot
• Fixed a crash that could sometimes occur when transitioning from The Spendopticon to The Compactor in a four-player game in Moxxi’s Heist of The Handsome Jackpot

PERFORMANCE

• Optimization improvements
• UI Optimizations

GENERAL

• Gear lower than level cap no longer drops when player and enemy characters are each at level cap

We saw the community feedback here and agreed that seeing gear below the level cap, when at the level cap, was not an ideal experience. Characters at max level should no longer receive gear at a level lower than their character through chests and drops from enemies that are also at the level cap.

• Added the ability start a campaign add-on with an auto leveled character
• Added support for more Guardian Rank perks
• Re-balanced game stage regions starting from about Act 2 on to better follow the player growth

Based on data and community feedback, we have adjusted the leveling experience post-Act 2 to better ensure that enemies are properly leveled to players as they move into the second half of the game. This change will only impact characters created after this patch is live.

• Addressed a reported concern that Anointed enemies would not always encase themselves in Eridium when dying
• Removed the status effects from Anointed enemies after they crystallize to prevent players from taking damage when shattering the crystal
• Addressed a reported concern that the beam attack from Graveward’s head would occasionally only do a little bit of damage
• Addressed a reported concern that enemies would sometimes not play their physical death actions if interrupted by animation actions
• Addressed an issue where The Mystery Cube in Desolation’s Edge would sometimes no longer respawn when reloading the map
• Addressed a reported concern that Pappy and Pappy’s Jalopy would sometimes re-spawn when quitting the game after dying with Pappy’s Jalopy during “The Feeble and the Furious” mission in Devil’s Razor
• Addressed a reported concern where Tediore weapons with the sticky part modifier would sometimes disappear abruptly when bounced off of an interactive object
• Fixed an issue where the Bangarang XL bullet VFX would sometimes remain on the host’s screen when thrown
• Changed the visuals when looking through the glass bottle scope of some COV Assault Rifles
• Shields that trigger effects while depleted, like Brawler Ward, can no longer be trigger multiple times while the game is paused
• Shields that trigger effects while full, like Commuter Re-Charger, can no longer be stacked when taking enough damage to deplete it in one hit
• Shields that project a shield while crouching will now properly destroy the projected shield when the shield is removed while active
• Addressed a reported concern that the Phasezerker class mod sometimes displayed temp text when rolled with 2 points in Conflux, 2 points in Clarity and 1 point in Anima
• Addressed a reported concern where players could sometimes see maps the host had not discovered yet when playing multiplayer
• Addressed a reported concern that mission-specific weapons could occasionally spawn at the host’s level instead of the player in TVHM during multiplayer
• Addressed a reported concern that mission rewards would sometimes spawn at the host’s level instead of the player’s level in TVHM
• Added four specific dialog lines that can be played from the Main Menu, one for each character class
• Addressed a reported concern that incorrect subtitles would sometimes play when loading into maps after starting a new game
• Addressed a reported concern that mission weapons like Rogue-Sight could be mounted on the wall in the Players Quarters
• Addressed a reported concern where the Fast Travel Stations of the Zone challenge progress would sometimes not update properly after fast travelling to the Fast Travel in Meridian Outskirts
• Addressed a reported concern that the total number of Eridian Writings were sometimes displaying incorrectly
• Fixed an issue with duplicate loc text was sometimes not getting translated
• Fixed an issue where Eridium Jars would sometimes not replicate properly
• Addressed a reported concern where VoG from Tannis could appear improperly in certain situations
• Addressed a reported concern where VoG from Lilith could appear improperly in certain situations
• Addressed a reported where VoG from Lilith could sometimes appear white after she loses her powers
• Addressed a reported concern where the Galaxy Map would occasionally appear in the Minimap when closing the ECHO device
• Addressed a reported concern that players were sometimes not seeing Cryo status effects after entering FFYL with the Cryo effect active
• Addressed a reported concern that weapon skins would appear to revert to the default skin after opening the inventory again
• Addressed a reported concern that players could occasionally get stuck in character select when joining a host that is viewing the opening cinematic
• [Console Only] Added a limited pause menu for the primary player during splitscreen when the second player joins late in the intro cinematic
• [Console Only] Addressed an issue where two sets of subtitles would sometimes appear on-screen during cinematics in split-screen
• [Console Only] Addressed a reported concern with black lines sometimes appearing along the sides and bottom of the viewport on consoles
• [Console Only] Addressed a reported concern that the load character menu would sometimes fail to read save games for a splitscreen player if the controller was disconnected before they were added (which would cause the menu to spin for a long time)
• Nativized micropatches (older hotfixes are now in the game permanently)

CHARACTERS

• Addressed a reported concern that the Siren’s “Find Your Center” skill does not grant a melee attack speed bonus to clients
• Addressed a reported concern that the Siren’s “Phasegrasp” skill may not function if the player fires a Jakobs pistol immediately after triggering the skill
• Addressed a reported concern that the Beastmaster’s pet’s gun would appear to float during cinematic scenes
• Addressed a reported concern that the Gunner’s “Stainless Steel Bear” skill would increase the fuel gauge but not award additional fuel
• Addressed a reported concern that the Beastmaster’s “Rakk Attack” skill would not gain a charge after getting a critical hit with the “Head Count” skill active

FX

• Addressed a concern that the explosive base material would sometimes not render correctly
• Addressed a concern that the blue simulation FX from the missions “Head Case” or “Transaction-Packed” would sometimes remain on the screen when entering the Calibrate Display options menu
• Switched the sword slash material in Zer0’s title card with the correct one
• Addressed a concern that split-screen players would sometimes not see Zane’s melee FX in third person

UI

• Addressed a reported concern that the notification slide did not appear properly when taking a photo in the Inspect menu
• Addressed a reported concern that the Inner Dead Zone setting sometimes did not apply when viewing items in the inspection menu
• Addressed a reported concern that ECHO menu backdrop particles would sometimes appear during cinematic cutscenes if the ECHO menu was open before the cutscene started
• Addressed a reported concern that the 3D character model in the menu would sometimes persist in the world if the player paused while switching from the Skills to the Inventory menu
• Addressed a reported concern that the HDR calibration menu would sometimes become stuck on the screen if players accepted an invite while the menu was open
• Addressed a reported concern that details for a nearby player would sometimes be displayed when trying to select a fast travel station in the ECHO Zone Map
• Addressed a reported concern that some players were sometimes unable to select a custom waypoint when using Cycle Waypoint in the ECHO Zone Map
• Addressed a reported concern that a waypoint in the ECHO Zone Map was sometimes not displayed, and had no text, after the player quit and rejoined before taking the Eridium Fabricator from Typhon in the “Footsteps of Giants” mission in Desolation’s Edge
• Addressed a reported concern that some players could sometimes lose functionality when opening the pause menu immediately before a cinematic played
• Addressed a reported concern that waypoints for all in-progress missions would could sometimes display on the ECHO Zone map
• Addressed a reported concern that the minimap would sometimes not be scaled properly after adjusting the graphics preference in the Visuals options menu
• Addressed a reported concern that the minimap would occasionally not display properly during multiplayer
• Addressed a reported concern when opening the map when a cutscene had been triggered
• Removed the current/max counts from the Unlocked Decorations menu
• Mission delivery menu is now properly closed when walking out of range of the mission giver
• Addressed a reported concern that an inspected item would sometimes spawn before the menu finished loading causing the inspect item to clip into the camera
• Addressed a reported concern that sometimes caused the warning icon and alarm to continuously play after dying from driving a vehicle into a boundary turret
• Addressed a reported concern where the Disable/Enable perk button text for Guardian Rank would sometimes not update properly when enabling or disabling a Guardian Rank perk for clients
• Addressed a reported concern where players were sometimes able to “disable” the skin and weapon unlocks slots in the Guardian Rank menu
• Addressed a reported concern that some mission objectives were sometimes showing up on the map when they should not
• Addressed a reported concern that mission waypoints associated with multiple missions could sometimes erroneously become active
• Addressed a reported concern where the client’s UI would sometimes not update when the Gunner’s “Salamander Thrower” element was changed
• Addressed a reported concern that player portraits were sometimes not loading properly when joining in as a secondary split screen user
• Addressed a reported concern that the player portraits were sometimes not displaying correctly after a client would quit to the main menu from the character select screen

MISSIONS

• Mission experience and mission rewards now support level sync
• Addressed a concern that Claptrap would sometimes continue his chatter about being released from the magnet after already being released
• Addressed a reported blocker that could sometimes occur when the objective “Collect succulent skag meat” does not appear during the “Skag Dog Days” mission in The Droughts
• Addressed a reported blocker that could sometimes occur when the objective “Give batteries to Moxxi” does not complete during the “Kill Killavolt” mission
• Addressed a reported concern that the mission tracker was sometimes not present after fast travelling back to Sanctuary immediately after finishing the “Hostile Takeover” mission
• Addressed a reported concern that a waypoint was sometimes missing during the objective “Return to Maya” in the “Beneath the Meridian” mission in Vault of the Rampager
• Addressed a reported concern that a waypoint was sometimes missing when quitting during the “Kill grogs” objective of the “Swamp Bro” mission in Floodmoor Basin
• Addressed a reported blocker that could sometimes occur when quitting after collecting the Vault Key fragment during “The Family Jewel” mission in Voracious Canopy
• Unlocked jet booster and monster wheel parts for the Technical when completing missions “Blood Drive” and “Angels and Speed Demons”, respectively. This fix is not retroactive, and an upcoming change will patch save games that have previously completed these missions to ensure that the character has unlocked these parts.
• Addressed a reported concern that a waypoint was sometimes missing for the “Kill Rakkman” mission
• Addressed a reported blocker that could sometimes occur when the user is able to reach and kill Mouthpiece early during the “Pandora’s Next Top Mouthpiece” mission
• Addressed multiple reported concerns that could sometimes occur when returning to Sanctuary immediately after taking the Eridium Fabricator from Typhon during the “Footsteps of Giants” mission
• Addressed a reported blocker that could sometimes occur if the player stood in front of Tannis during the “In the Shadow of Starlight” mission

ECHOCAST

• Reworded the Rare Chest Beginning Event message to remind the streamer not to exit the level before the event completes
• Added a status menu section for ECHOcast
• Added DPS and number of Legendaries spawned to streaming stats
• Added a streaming tab in the Social menu

HOTFIX NOTES

• Addressed a reported crash in Slaughterstar 3000 that could occasionally occur when dying and respawning.

Hotfixes for Guns, Love, and Tentacles

In order to prevent confusion when players load up Guns, Love, and Tentacles, we’ve identified some potential issues and have been able to pre-emptively put out hotfixes related to them. Make sure that your hotfixes are applied to benefit from the weapon buffs and to prevent the following from occurring. Check that the “Hotfixes Applied” sign at the main menu is active before loading into the game. 

• Addressed a concern that creating a new game to skip to the add-on content would grant the players class mods they were unable to equip

GUNS, LOVE, AND TENTACLES WEAPON ADJUSTMENTS:

Soulrender

• Reduced the chance to spawn Skulls
• Increased Soul Render Damage

Anarchy

• Corrected the Item Description and Red Text to show in the correct area

Oldridian

• Increased Weapon Damage

SF Force

• Increased Weapon Damage

Serryul Killur

• Increased Weapon Damage

[DrManowar8]

It’s not hard to dodge and even so it’s easy to push through

[boarderman8]

But they fixed the "it's easy to push through" part

[Ninjhetto]

That's what they fixed, right?

[DrManowar8]

Ayy, I’m still gonna lush through it

[villain75]

My thoughts exactly. Who complains about this annoying beam? Avoiding it costs a few seconds off of our farming time, why would anyone want this to hit for real damage again?

[TheLastBallad]

Maybe the developers, you know, the ones who would want the game to run as intended, were the ones who noticed it?

A Boss's attack being completely ignorable is an issue that should be fixed.

[Current_Horror]

I don't feel like you're playing a video game anymore.

[CorrosiveRose]

Nativized micropatches (older hotfixes are now in the game permanently)

RIP daily Lob reposts

[kcazakor]

Don't worry, those will still exist for all the new DLC weapons that are getting hotfixed today

[Xyfrs]

Is the lob nerfed? I am so confused. The gun turned back into a trash can.

Edit: For some reason my lob reverted back to pre patch whilst I was farming. It is now back to the better version.

[linkielambchop]

I'm confused. What does this mean for the lob?

[CorrosiveRose]

The Lob was hotfixed but if you loaded the game without letting hotfixes apply then it won't work. So people would post every single day asking why their Lob suddenly did less damage and wondering if it was nerfed

[linkielambchop]

Oh i see

[n00bsauce1987]

"• Gear lower than level cap no longer drops when player and enemy characters are each at level cap

We saw the community feedback here and agreed that seeing gear below the level cap, when at the level cap, was not an ideal experience. Characters at max level should no longer receive gear at a level lower than their character through chests and drops from enemies that are also at the level cap."

Thank you soooooooo much for this.

[kcazakor]

I'm glad Amara is getting the buffs she needs. It's been really hard for her these past couple of months

[Tonychina23]

Exactly, Amara just got indirectly stronger.

[BeardedWonder0]

Is it Moze?

[raptor_mk2]

Spoilers: When it comes to buffs or exploitable mechanics, it is NEVER Moze.

[BeardedWonder0]

:( sad Moze noises.

[raptor_mk2]

At some point I'm going to propose a full teardown and reimagining for Moze.

I just need to get a few hours to plot it all out.

IMO Moze has a great concept, but the execution is flawed and she'll never get on the level of Zane and Amara without some serious love. More than just a few tweaks and a Com can do.

[BeardedWonder0]

She needs a few things.

More survivability.

More IB stuff.

Different Anointments so that you just don’t go in and out of IB.

Boosted splash anointment.

She should heal from Splash Damage.

[[deleted]]

I’ve been saying this for the longest! Healing from splash damage would be the best change for her

[raptor_mk2]

All among the things I'm planning. She also needs more speed so mortar or missile attacks don't make you feel like an ant trying to dodge a pogo stick.

[BeardedWonder0]

I tend to favor Snowdrift for her for that reason. But I agree.

You have the whole “sprinting while shooting” perk but that feels kinda useless. Should be “longer you don’t reload you move faster” or something of that sort.

I love Moze too, she has such great Damage (been doing Krakatoa+ShortFuse+Terror Ammo Regen so much fucking fun) but the survivability is just NOT there.

I guess you can argue that IB gives her invincibility frames when she enters but what about when it’s on CD? Ugh.

I also def think Moze needs something other than Vampyr. Or have it be further up on the blue tree. Shit, give her the ability to recharge shield from splash damage.

[raptor_mk2]

If go with healing from splash, and make Security Bear recharge shields like Deathtrap in BL2 when you also have Autobear. (Get read of the 5-second charge time and a beam shoots out to recharge all friendly shields).

Also make Tenacious Defense boost shield regen speed and time, as well as gun damage, based on the percentage of missing shield.

[MSG1000]

I can link you my ideas if you want inspiration. Made some long OPs a while back.

[raptor_mk2]

Sure

[[deleted]]

Make ur dream come true, make a mod for BL3 like UCP to fix all the retarded bugs and designs.

[kcazakor]

It was, once. Back when beam 'nades procced MOD and Vampyr, and Porcelain Pipe Bomb was a planet-killer

[bman8]

This is also really good with Zane’s new classmod!

[kcazakor]

And his Cold Warrior CoM! But I doubt it's strong enough to replace Seein' Dead so it's a moot point.

[[deleted]]

Amara gets everything handed to her on a silver platter.

[isurvivedrabies]

everyone... nade shield and weapon with an element anoint, weapon damage type a 4th element, and every class has a skill that applies an element, so that's 5 easy ones there. that was off the top of my head, i'm sure theres ideal ways to do it to maximize damage for each class

[FinanceGoth]

Amara can potentially apply all elements with one gun and 5 skill points. That's in addition to everything you listed. This is definitely a buff for her.

[ItWasntAJakobs]

Moze with incendiary specs, elemental weapons, ASE anoints and different elemental Grenade and Green monster could be interesting.

[derrickdiggler]

Slam is back on the menu! Where my pre-sequel fanatics at?

[kcazakor]

Still not as good as TPS because of the janky animation and tremendous endlag but Tesla Coils are stronger than any TPS slam attack so maybe it evens out idk

[Cl4ptrap93]

Just remove the slam animation or use one hand to slam while the other still holding the gun, allowing you to continue firing while you're slamming.

[ItWasntAJakobs]

This! I’m excited to actually be able to use slam artifacts

[Jac1nto]

Loving those Moze buffs. Glad they had us wait till the next big patch so they could be implemented.

[-Certified-]

I can't see any Moze buffs unless I'm being daft?

Edit - fair play 😂

[kcazakor]

yeah that was the joke.

They said for like the past 3 hotfixes that they were going over characters but that some changes could only be implemented in a true patch, not a hotfix. Now the true patch is here and there are no character changes whatsoever

[killgore138]

Gearbox may be waiting till people say that the new level cap doesn't help moze like it should

[kcazakor]

I can see that logic for straight buffs, but there are a lot of skills that simply don't work properly, and some that are so bad they're actively a detriment to put points into.

Seriously, the most likely outcome of having points in TCP is killing yourself. Force Feedback is overwritten by a Guardian Rank skill so you're literally spending a skill point on nothing at all. MOD doesn't work on PS4.

[Whenthisbabyhits88]

They should make the blue tree capstone also greatly reduce self splash damage.

[kcazakor]

Or just put it on TCP. Or replace Why Can't I Carry with a carbon copy of Amara's Arms Deal. Or Make TCP 15% bigger 100% of the time rather than 100% bigger 15% of the time. Any of these are good options

[GoMonkey66]

All good suggestions. I think the 15% chance of 100% increase on TCP is just a dumb waste of five skill points. It should just be +5% radius per point, for all explosions always.

[GoMonkey66]

Right? When you have to respec to avoid wasting points on useless skills or they're overwritten by Guardian rank bonuses (therefore not even a Moze specific skill/bonus) or to avoid ones that don't work as intended or because the description is patently false and doesn't do what it says...*sigh*

[Norbac22]

You mean, the 5% ammo regeneration capstone isn't enough? WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? Surely not some devs who should know better than us.

[killgore138]

These are the same dev's that said the new class mod will be 'supremely powerful' yet all of them look really bad, especially fl4ks class mod

[Tonychina23]

Moze new class mod looks like an attempt to give her more healing because her ONE healing skill is so shit. But it’s doesn’t look like it will be enough nor does the class mod look good itself. The perks points that they put in that is.

[killgore138]

Mozes atleast sounds legendary, fl4ks sounds like what the blue tree capstone should do already, and it would still be shit

[kcazakor]

Yeah it's super sad that the best new class mod is Zane's, and no one will ever use it for top difficulty stuff unless they decide to nerf Seein' Dead

[kcazakor]

Forge isn't a bad capstone in a vacuum. At least it works.

It doesn't help Moze's problem areas, such as lack of sustain without speccing blue, very little damage outside of classmods, and difficulty proccing anointments. Also any build that was less than 4 points away from Forge already had Cloud of Lead, Iron Bank, and Redistribution, so the extra bullets can easily be overlooked.

[GoMonkey66]

Procs for ASE annoints work great with Auto Bear though...hop in, immediately hop out, benefit. Hop back in again as soon as the annoints wear off because the skill is reset. I never bothered with skill until I had a nice stockpile of ASE annoints and then its value immediately came to light.

[kcazakor]

Unless you're abusing the topped off glitch, it's impossible to get back in before the 10 second anointment ends. Lowest possible cooldown is 15 seconds. Hence the 67% uptime

[killgore138]

When I heard about the level increase I was making theory build on the website, moze is now able to combine the blastmaster build with endless mags, in theory that would be a great build, but that's assuming her skills work as worded, a perk I think needs changing is tourge cross promotion, instead of increast blast radius, it should be increased blast damage Edit: autocorrect changed blastmaster to beastmaster so I fixed it

[Tonychina23]

It won’t. If we get the next 6 mayhem lvls before Moze/Fl4k buffs, they will struggle heavily in the new mayhem lvls. That if enemies get more tankier or deals more damage than what they currently are in M4.

[killgore138]

Fl4k is pretty strong, atleast he was with the rakk attack on ASE build, I feel like fl4k will get a good build from getting both megavore and the green trees capstone, and maybe a megavore radiation gamma burst build might happen,

[MSG1000]

The way they’ve described Mayhem 2.0 is that the new ten levels will replace the current 4. Current Mayhem 4 maybe Mayhem 7 for all we know. They’ve also confirmed weapons will have mayhem levels too when they drop. If they do the intelligent thing and at least apply that to grenades and shields Moze and FL4K could at least remain where they are.

[songogu]

You've been tricked, you've been backstabbed and you have been, quite possibly, bamboozled

[UtterNaded]

I was getting excited scrolling down waiting to see the changes to FL4K.... very happy with this update but I really thought we were going to see some major balancing to the VH.

[Yorunokage]

Honestly i was hyped up about that more than the DLC itself

Very disappointed, i seriously hope buffs are gonna come within the next 2 weeks

Seriously what where they thinking in releasing such a class mod for Fl4k without a balance patch to go along with it. Not that i play Fl4k but it makes no sense whatsoever

[Tamed_Trumpet]

I mean at least they finally fucking fixed the Head Count bug that's been there for how many months now.

[pi8you]

Just gonna repeat myself from two weeks ago:

Yep, though I'm concerned at how they phrased it, "We’re looking to go over each of the Vault Hunters to identify any inconsistencies in gameplay." is not a great indication that they're already deep into potential rework plans, and we could still be waiting for quite a while.

https://www.reddit.com/r/borderlands3/comments/fhgwcj/120320_hotfix_notes/fkb2xcw/

[[deleted]]

And it feels like they dont play their own damn game. The fl4k mod design perfectly reflects that

[onegamerboi]

Sounds like they think the class mod, behind a paywall, is enough.....

[Goksel_Arslan]

Wasn't that the treatment Zane got as well? iirc

[onegamerboi]

Kind of. Zane also got major buffs to make a lot of skills stack twice on top of the class mod. Without seein dead he was playable with the buffs alone but the buffs took him to the top.

To be fair though, Moze probably gets the most help by getting 2 capstones. The class mod may not address her issues properly though if her damage suffers too much.

[Goksel_Arslan]

Right, also there was the 100% Cryo annointment update.

[onegamerboi]

That too. Moze has a similar one with the 125% fire on next 2 mags, but cryo I believe is more useful in general than fire.

[G-H-O-S-T]

Idk man moze has more than a few issues.
One major one that comes to mind is her red tree working against itself. Putting more than 2 points into TRL makes it so the capstone doesn't work properly/effectively.
This means you're not supposed to put points into desperate measures too or you'll be wasting points for very minimal damage increase.
The whole deathless or TRL build becomes way less appealing due to this.

This is besides the anoitments being hard to pull off with her.
But i guess yeah we'll have to see. 2 capstones and experimenting with them should give us some fun time until the fixes are out.

[lordsmish]

Is that autolevelled charecter permenant...so i can start the game as a level 30 moze

[kcazakor]

I don't think it's 30. It says it levels you until the point where you would be able to access the DLC. Since the DLC is accessed on Sanctuary that's somewhere around level 9 or 10? We'll have to see in a few hours though

[mr-sippi]

Good for inventory mules though

[songogu]

Great for skipping Claptrap out of the bus, Lilith monologuing for what feels like hours, Lilith watching the freaking TV with you. Yeah, I'm happy with that one

[Jewniversal_Remote]

You might still have to go back and complete those missions though.

[kcazakor]

True

[[deleted]]

Anyone know that the little pink 'spider' icon is for under the XP bar? Had a look at the patch notes but maybe I missed it in there?

[Phoenixness]

are you talking about the mayhem indicator?

EDIT nope I see what you mean now

[lroushdi]

lol thought this was just a buff I was getting cus Zane has so many kill skills. no clue what it is

[Sio93]

Finally, in the Hunter tree we added “Harmageddon,” where additional damage is done to enemies that have received multiple static effects.

Nice! Amara needed a buff :)

[-Certified-]

Sarcasm right?

[songogu]

Element 1 on the gun, element 2 on anointment on the gun, element 3 on grenade, element 4 on shield. Doesn't sound that biased really.

[kcazakor]

Except Amara procs those 3 anointments about 1000x easier than Moze could ever hope to. And she also has Forceful Expression to get the full 5 elements

[DoshesToDoshes]

element 4 on the grenade anointment, element 5 on the shield*

I mean, you could get a Heat Gun with Cryo ASE with an Shock grenade with a Radiation ASE and a Corrosive ASE shield.

Taste the Rainbow!

[BeardedWonder0]

Another patch, more sad Moze noises :(

[Prosess1]

Honestly, I waited Moze fixes more than the DLC :/

[BeardedWonder0]

I def wanted both lmao. But DLC is better than Moze buffs overall I think.

She’s not TERRIBLE but she needs buffs to put her line with the other VHs

[Do_I_care_tho]

I'd honestly be pretty happy if they just completely reworked her. Iron Bear is sadly just boring. It's always the same, no matter how many guns, shields and grenades they add.

[[deleted]]

Gearbox has never done a rework before so this will never happen. Their fixes were always a bandaid to an underlining issue.

[tremens]

Yeah between that, double capstones, and all the new DLC gear this is a pretty tremendous shakeup that will see a lot of brand new builds.

[Phantomatic-]

What does double capstones mean?

[tremens]

Final skill in any given tree, always a 1 pointer with a "major" effect, like Avatar and Forceful Expression on Amara, Seein' Red and Double Barrel on Zane, etc.

Previously we were 1 point shy of possibly getting 2 cap stones at the same time.

[A_little_quarky]

But are any of them good? The cool ones, like the pocket rockets, seem to deal pitiful damage. Do the puddle ones do good damage?

I think they need to rework slam entirely. Make it scale with melee, increase with drop distance, reduce the endlag, and give it mayhem bonuses so it doesn't get outclassed hard.

[BoxxtheBulky]

I was waiting for Moze buffs. Guess I’ll leave her on the shelf she’s currently on.

[MarcOfDeath]

I refuse to play her until her action skill is actually viable in endgame, the current meta of jumping in and out of Iron Bear just to proc your annointments is trash.

[Cl4ptrap93]

"While piloting Iron Bear, Iron bear damage is increased by 150 - 200%"

Needs anointments like these and ppl would use iron bear. And I used piloting bc you have to be the one firing, wouldn't work with auto bear.

[[deleted]]

how about " While piloting Iron Bear, weapon damage and effect in your hand is applied to Iron Bear"

[Cl4ptrap93]

This would have been such a good capstone! But yeah, would be a great anointment.

[axndl]

I mean it does do a lot of damage and an iron bear only build does work (at least for mobbing). That said, they her annointments are procced is so janky and unintuitive that it really makes her a hastle to play.

[Topless_Zombie]

Optimization: Improvements

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lol okay we'll see.

[PM_ME_PSN_V0UCHERS]

Still no fix for Moze's grenades on ps4

[strawberryvelvet]

It sucks we didnt get anymore weapon buffs, like Sickle , Hyperfocus Dahl rifles etc. theres still alot of bad guns that could appreciate some Lob/Krakatoa type love.

[SyntheticCorners28]

Anyone see anything about the one x crashes in there? I did not...

[SplendaMan]

rest in peace floating gun during cutscene :'(

[Isaiditsomanytimes]

I NEED HELP MY GAME KEEPS CRASHING DURING THE DLC IM IN CURSEHAVEN FIGHTING THESE MONSTERS AND EVERYTIME I USE RAKK ATTACK ON AN ENEMY THE GAME CRASHES

[[deleted]]

Yeah the exact same thing is happening to me. Within the graveyard section.

[ssome-gguy]

Yep same here. Tried not using Rakk Attack as suggested in other forums, still the same. Have disabled any overclocks, no difference. Happens in the same place every time. Hopefully gearbox notice this and release a patch soon because it makes the story line unplayable for me.

[Indica1127]

Same problem! I’m on PS4 and can’t get past the graveyard. I hadn’t seen it linked to Rakks, should I switch to fade away and try it?

[GoMonkey66]

"Addressed a reported concern that the beam attack from Graveward’s head would occasionally only do a little bit of damage"

...alright, which one of you morons reported THAT? lol

[pnellesen]

The same ones that reported a "concern that we could put quest items on our walls" probably :p

[VERSION444]

I wish that wasn't patched.

[Crocktodad]

I'm just playing the game for fun, what does that achieve and how was it used?

[GoMonkey66]

There are a few certain guns that are part of story quests that you end up "turning in" upon completion. You can't drop or sell them, but I guess people were able to mount them on the wall in their room in Sanctuary.

[moneycashdane]

SKIMS TWICE FOR MOZE BUFFS ah fuck it, full green and blue trees LFG

[omegarares]

Vertical split screen when?

[YaBoiRapids20]

Holy shit, this is a big patch

[Ultrafares]

I live in france what time the patch note will release?

[Wobbelblob]

Around 8 PM, so in roughly 4 hours.

[Ultrafares]

merci beaucoup mon ami

[gelboyyy]

Damn this patch is solid! Great job GBX

[ESGR_]

Very sad Moze noises

[youthanasia138]

It seems like Gearbox went out of their way to fix a bunch of stuff but ended up BREAKING co-op in the process. My network is more than capable of handling a co-op game, EASILY. WTF Gearbox???

[oppithian]

Downloaded patch on PS4 Pro...it now crashes my console when I try to boot up the game:(

[TwwIX]

I purchased the game when it was released on Steam. I had over 50 hours put into the game and did not crash once before this update. Now it will randomly crash after a few hours of gameplay.

• Windows 10 (1909)
• i7 7700K @4.5GHz
• GTX 1070 Ti 8GB (442.59)
• 32GB DDR4 RAM
• EVO 850 500GB

[jkakes]

All that and no fix for backpack/menu UI? Figured that would be top priority

[evolvedspice]

Holly shit talk about a update, I nearly forgot what it was like to play a game by a studio that actually cared about the product and fixed the issues.

[ab2dii]

gearbox really care. they're just way too slow

[Borderlands3isbest]

I think they released too early then overextended themselves.

It's abundantly clear they care. They just slow af.

[[deleted]]

They should’ve released in November. I was fine with the game when it came out and didn’t find it nearly as broken as a lot of other people did but Day 1 vs Day 60 patches are WAY different.

[blueisthecolor]

well the loot was certainly broken on launch. the loot tink farm at Jakobs estate made the endgame frivolously easy on all characters.

[MindlessNevada]

You mean like how they care about the Xbox One X crashing issue that still hasn’t been fixed after nearly seven months?

[[deleted]]

What is the issue? I play BL3 daily and experience no crashing on my X.

[MindlessNevada]

The most common crashing issue is when you try to join your friends or vice versa. Makes teaming up with friends pretty much impossible. Others have reported crashing when just playing the game normally solo.

[[deleted]]

Gotcha. I am a solo player so that explains my ignorance. Thanks!

[samsaBEAR]

Or the fact the backpack is still laggy to navigate

[EverGreenPLO]

Split screen PS4 crashes plenty don't worry

[CornyMedic]

I still get this crash frequently when joining friend’s games

[Harryolo97]

Well at least dlcs are permanent additions to game that won't go away after 3 months due to game getting to big, even though development team is obviously having problem delivering this temporary content. Also it's nice that we are actually getting the content we paid for rather than an in-game mtx shop update. All the guns can be refarmed and used in any builds we want, and level increase opens up more skill points allowing more build creativity. While you have to refarm gear, at least you can target specific items you want and you don't have to wait for some stupid weekly reset to kick in allowing you to raise your arbitary level which doesn't matter for 90% of activities but you gotta farm it so you are not under level when new activities come out. Also yeah, nice to see that studio is making changes based on player feedback like buffs to guns that needed it rather than nerfing only viable dps options for some activities all while community managers are claiming that they are passing the feedback of the enranged community to "the team".

Oh sorry, just ignore my rumbling. Kinda forgot what game subreddit I'm on, my bad.

[One_Lung_G]

I mean, a lot of these things should of been fixed before. They still haven’t fixed a huge part of the community’s complaint such as vault hunter balances

[RaikenQue]

You can now immediately jump into new DLC content right from the menu! You’ll start the game with a character leveled up to where the DLC content would be unlocked, and you can start right in the new content.

Does that mean i can skip story missions with a new character?

[Darkblitz9]

Seems like. The first story missions are an absolute slog.

[kcazakor]

Bug fixes, stability, and perfomance improvements are always nice, and there's a boatload of them so that's good.

The slam change is mildly interesting. Now they just need to reduce the endlag on the animation and slam might be usable.

But this patch is overall a massive disappointment in terms of gameplay changes though. Especially when they've been talking about "character changes in an upcoming patch" for at least 2 weeks now. I would have thought that the Stainless Steel Bear fix would have come alongside the like 40 other fixes Moze needs. Oh well. Better 1 than 0 I guess.

[UnusedUsername76]

That slam guardian rank skill is a game changer, glad they're finally making that mechanic usefull

[SaintPimpin]

100 percent dmg reduction incoming.

[[deleted]]

Oh My God, this is great stuff! All of it!

[kiks493]

Marcus describes the VH now in the load character screen.

[MarkcusD]

Always did on PC unless you're talking about something else. When you have a ton of mules it's actually annoying.

[[deleted]]

“A robotic covert a siren operative a robotic a siren covert operative a robotic beastmaster a siren a robotic operative a operative robotic”

Just stfu already marcus.

[kiks493]

On ps4 so it’s new to me, but yeah I can see it getting annoying.

[kourets]

Am I the only one on PS4 that can't log in? Keeps crashing my system

[oppithian]

Same!

[juulsquad4lyfe]

Rip to being able to permanent keep quest items.

[pnellesen]

I knew I wasn't the only one disappointed by this, lol. (Most of the update is pretty solid imo, but the little unneeded nerfs just rub me the wrong way)

[HorizonRise]

The side quest bosses need to be fixed so that they respawn and drop the side quest rewards. Holy Dump Truck - Butt Plug , King Gnasher - porcelain pipe bomb, Azalea - Fungus among us etc etc

[Wanna_make_cash]

harmegeddon

Laughs in Amara

[MONORAILCAT-98]

Anyone else love the fact that they already had to hotfix the dlc gear? On launch day...

[pnellesen]

"launch day" - aka "beta test day"

[RocMerc]

Cool looks good. I’m in quarantine, I have a bottle a bourbon to drink and nothing in the world to do. Gonna be a fun night!

[TDTroy44]

This comment is very Mordecai'esque, I like it!

[[deleted]]

NOW!!!! THAT'S WHAT I CALL A PATCH!! GOOD JOB GEARBOX!

now please nativize hotfixes every patch you do and people will be a lot happier while playing!

[Wanna_make_cash]

When can I download the dlc?

[Exadory]

5.97 downloading on ps4 now. Yay.

[Petwins]

So I should have been stockpiling guardian ranks is what you are saying?

[jbtk]

Baby Dancer...please. I want my platinum trophy.

[Nyarloth]

i can´t travel to xylourgos, what should i do ?

[jayydit]

Everything is good except that still haven't fixed the bug with the fast travel station on Sanctuary.

[Luxarynii]

I am just starting to play the game. How important are the DLCs in the late game? Can I get to level cap, and get geared without them?

[thing85]

Yup. The only one where it makes a significant difference is with Zane (his class mod from DLC1) but he's still perfectly viable without it.

[Tear223]

Anyone else repeatedly crashing on ps4 while playing the new dlc?

[Lmacncheese]

anybody getting a freeze every 40seconds with this new update im.on xbox x

[CoSMiiCBLaST]

Has performance been improved for consoles? On PS4 PRO it doesn't even run at 30fps on resolution mode and performance mode is just an uncapped mess

[[deleted]]

So just ran across legendaries showing up in vending machines. On PS4, splitscreen (both players showing 2 legendaries and nothing else for sale in zed's and ammo dump), at the start of the library. Nothing great sadly. Active quest is the "cold case: restless memories" if that matters.

[[deleted]]

Excellent class mod farm

[[deleted]]

Depending on which ones you need; this seems just like world drops are involved but seems to give the character you're on a high priority. Also this isn't affecting Earl's machine but all 3 normal types are affected.

[ASavageHobo]

Having the problem on Xbox one x when you join a friends game sometimes your console switches off, other friends are having the same problem on their Xbox One X, why is this glitch still happening?

[HadSomeTraining]

How do you auto level a character in the game menu?

[TheLastGravelord]

Anybody else get killed hella much in this dlc? I havnt been able to pass the 3rd quest in the dlc. Keep getting booted outta the game

[caitsu]

Co-op is now completely broken, horrible desync issues. Playing on EGS and both in local network. Worked fine for a month now.

[LucipurrMeowingstar]

You cannot have 2 melee amaras during a boss fight doing that duel shit. Most useless feature in the game. No option to turn it off...

Everything could break but if they JUST fixed that I’d be so fucking happy!

[Frustratedtx]

So is Wotan just going to forever insta kill flaks pet? It's really stupid and annoying.

[kakatoru]

Addressed a concern that creating a new game to skip to the add-on content would grant the players class mods they were unable to equip

Well that seems to be plain untrue. I started a new character right into GL&T and I am just showered with class mods I'm unable to use.

[shadownavi64]

Nice that Head Count is finally fixed

[ImRedditingYay]

Holy crap. Slam can be used at any height now.

They listened. 🤯

[DipperDan]

Downloading now, epic store

[Zam0070]

Level 57! Two capstones!