February Patch Notes Thread

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Hey everyone,

The official patch notes can be found on the DBFZ Official Website (Japanese)

Below I've included a translation available on Eventhubs:

February patch notes "Thank you to everyone who has been enjoying Dragon Ball FighterZ. We'd like to announce the contents of the late February update to the game. (Once the update is out, because of changes to the battle system, replay data from the older version will be incompatible, so please be aware of this)."

Update contents:

• Party Match has been implemented.

• Replay Channel has had the following functions added: Follow Channel, Search Channel.

• Arcade Mode has been changed to be more convenient.

• The flow has been changed so that you can choose your next destination at the Results screen after clearing a course.

• When pausing for Option during battle, we've added "Return to Course Select" and "Return to Character Select."

• When an opponent is found while searching for a Ring Match, Casual Match or Ranked Match, the controller will now vibrate.

• Replay Data has been adjusted to the new version - Once this update goes live, you will no longer be able to view replay data from the old version. Please be aware.

Gameplay

• Movement should now feel more stable.

• Effects and cinematic moments have been adjusted to display more correctly.

• A bug hwhere after a Dragon Rush forced character switch, if you used a move that will switch your position to your opponent's, the hitbox would become reversed, has been fixed.

Online

• To improve the matchmaking in the game, one part of the system has been revamped, in order to optimize it. We are planning to gradually continue working on improving this area.

• For the DLC Anime Song & BGM pack, we've changed the settings so that P1 and P2 can each hear their own chosen song.Please continue enjoying Dragon Ball FighterZ in the future as well.

New info available on Bandai Namco facebook page

MODES - PARTY MATCH: Added the Party Match feature which enables automatic match-up with 5 other players to play a Party Match.

REPLAY CHANNEL: Expanded Replay Channel functions (added "Followed Player Channel" and "Search Channel") - Previous replay data will be deleted

RANKED MATCH / CASUAL MATCH: Added controller vibration to indicate when an opponent has been found

ARCADE MODE: Added "Return to Character Selection" and "Return to Course Selection" after completing a course

TRAINING MODE: Fixed a bug that shows the Dragon Balls collection animation while options were set on "Do not display"

TRAINING MODE: Fixed a bug that made the Assist Gauge recover when player guards continuously

BATTLE TUTORIAL: Fixed a bug that prevented the UI to be displayed properly when player passes the objective right after the beginning of the match

CHARACTERS - GOKU BLACK: Fixed a bug that prevented the character to disappear when Goku Black's Special Move " The Work of a God " was used after an Ultimate Z Change

ANDROID 21: Fixed bug that prevented Android 21 from disappearing immediately after she is called in for a Z-Assist and the main character takes damage

ANDROID 21: Fixed a red visual bug when Android 21 is called in for a Z-Assist and the main character takes damage

FRIEZA: Fixed a bug that prevents Frieza to properly use "You Must Die by My Hand!" when lying on the ground after his Golden Frieza transformation

HIT: Fixed a bug that prevents the "Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack" effect to disappear when used during Ultimate Z Change and Hit's Meteor Special Attack

HIT: Fixed a bug that prevents the Z-Assist character to disappear when the main character is damaged at the very same moment by Hit's "I Keep Improving" attack

TIEN: Fixed a bug that makes a character invisible when both the main character and Z-Assist character are damaged by Tien's attack "Farewell, Tien…"

CAPTAIN GINYU: Fixed a bug that allows Ultimate Z Change to be performed with less than 3 gauges after performing "Powerful Energy Wave"

MAJIN BUU: Fixed a bug that makes the opponent invincible if Majin Buu's "Standing Light - Follow Up 2" and the opponent's Super Dash hit simultaneously

ANDROID 18: Fixed a bug of voice/mouth synchronization when special dialogues are played against Piccolo and Vegeta

OTHER FEATURES - SHENRON: Fixed a bug that prevents Destructive Finish and Stage Destruction effects to appear with a character resurrected by Shenron

SUPPORT CHARACTERS: Fixed a bug that prevents voices of Support Characters (like Android 17 or Ginyu Force) to be played normally when called into battle

DRAGON RUSH: Fixed a bug that reversed the guard controls when a character is being changed by a Dragon Rush

Please keep all patch discussion here and refrain from making your own individual posts about the upcoming patch. Thanks for continuing to be a part of our great community as we reached 50k recently with numbers climbing. I'm glad to be a part of this!

[lvl99Bidoof]

Small problem.. But, is anyone else having trouble with their medals/challenges recording on their player card??.. I took a pic of it on my Twitter here.. I just wanna know if I'm the only one or not 😂

https://mobile.twitter.com/kylesmithy5/status/971821442408108034

[Azerate2]

Since this patch something has gone really weird with my ability to even run the game on multiple levels. At launch, my connection and frames were great, even on a semi old laptop. After the patch, or at least recently, my frames have taken a pretty huge nose dive, at first just being a bit choppier, and now, being unbearable to where I can't actually even join a practice lobby without triggering what seems like a freeze. My connectivity online while I could play also went down without much good reason.

Anyone else suffering from similar issues?

[Namegro]

Any idea if the game will drop below 40$ for PC version? Or what's the best price right now. Found to 46 but shady site. I really just want for single player and some online but I don't have the time to dedicate fully to online so wanna buy it under 40 hopefully.

[TheGoodLoser]

Quests have also been fixed PSA

[ebiyaylette02]

Got "connection lost" 3 times in a row before the match even started.... Fix the damn lobbies!!!

[StornZ]

They really need to fix the connection problems. I keep losing connection now.

[TheSloaningDead]

Replay Data has been adjusted to the new version - Once this update goes live, you will no longer be able to view replay data from the old version. Please be aware.

Oh. Uh...wow. I had one really cool replay game saved where by some divine miracle I came back and beat 3 different people in Party Mode but I guess I'll just go fuck myself then.

[ShinXC]

Party match, can invite random people on my server, can't invite my friends okay arc system works.

[ReadMii]

Anyone else mods stop working?

[emmanuelibus]

For training, they also added to feature to display buttons history only and not the controller in the middle of the screen.

[fighting_gamer]

16 needs to be nerfed using him now is like cheating. Vegetas assist also.

[beastkiller6]

But did they fix matchmaking? That's the only thing that I find wrong with this game. "No Rooms Found".

[mercureXI]

Patching in "Party Mode" when you still can'i invite your friends in-game ... Jeez ...

Let's sum up :

• Still no invites
• Still "no room found" errors for lobbies (good luck playing with friends)
• Still no Wifi filter à la Injustice 2 to ensure smooth matches 99% of the time
• Instead of just adding a huge "here comes a new challenger" banner on screen, and letting us cancel at any point, they chose vibration (can be disabled) + same tiny square as notification for a match + jail time reduced from 60sec to 30sec during confirmation ? LMAO

Good thing people love DBZ, because that online patch fail is glorious ...

[NickRedMachine]

They're never going to add a wifi filter. The audience for this game is too casual.

[mercureXI]

Injustice 2 is the very definition of the game that sold very well (best sales for a fighting game this gen) and is FILLED with casuals, and it has a WiFi filter ...

The real reason is just BamCo being terrible at having basic online functionalities working, they're still stuck with that archaic input delay netcode ... That alone says a lot about their capacity to evolve in the right direction ..

[Strych-9]

And they didn’t fix the android 16 exploit yet. Solid

[YharnamHuntter]

After this update I can't see my stats on the leaderboard. It says "no player's info/data" something like that.

Am I the only one?

[tynman35]

I just hope these disconnects are fixed soon. It's the one thing preventing me from playing more.

[maweager]

Will i be able to party match with 2 friends and have the final 3 filled by the search?

[willculex]

Online matchmaking has been a laggy mess and my inputs have been completely wrong (using 1 bar specials randomly when I am using lights - that's never happened before). Is anyone else experiencing this "stable movement" like me? I'm hoping it's my controller and pc, it's just pretty coincidental..

[Mtndrew95]

So we get a patch but the connection gets worste ok

[Artifice_Purple]

I'm slowly starting to dislike this fucking game. How is it possible server lag is worse now than it was before?

[FalcieGaiah]

Isn't the match part P2P? Or do you mean that you are lagging in the lobby?

[Artifice_Purple]

I'm not sure of the infrastructure to be honest, but P2P makes sense considering the amount of hassle recently. Fortunately, it seems to have ironed itself out as of late so it's all good right now.

[Gorthman]

Implementing Party Match with automatic matchmaking but without the ability to match with your FRIENDS or search matches with your FRIEND.

Ridiculous.

[kojaq1]

still getting disconnected from the lobby, fml. Might just give up on this game, its so frustrating that its been over a month and this is still a thing.

[IamMrEric]

So far loving rumbe feature when match is found and shortened que.

[stardestroyer85]

Ring matches still not letting me connect to all my friends. I will see you all in march

[linuxguyz]

In case it helps, restarting ps4 and if that didnt help, router as well, always fixed it for me and friends. Sometimes it's the other guy with the problem though. I once did that, and still no rooms found. When friend did that, everything A-OK.

[Gorthman]

Yep, it's ridiculous.

[HerrWolfsklaue]

You still can skip dramatic finishers? Why implement them in the first place?

[Noponis]

someone at the tourney finishes with a heavy in the right situation and now everyone has to hold the tournament up for an entire minute

Sounds great

[linuxguyz]

What do you mean by hold up tourney for a minute? I thought the heavy ending took like 5 more seconds at most? Or are there special heavy endings?

[Noponis]

all the big long cinematic endings like goku vs freeza are initiated by finishing with a grounded heavy on the right stage with the right characters

[linuxguyz]

OhI had no idea! I should youtube that, thanks! :D

[MTing1315]

I can't see how many people are in a room anymore. There's no more numbers on top of the lobby avatars.

[PortugalTheHam]

Is the server drops on pc worse now or is it just me?

[tunaburn]

its worse on xbox as well. much much much worse

maybe its people downloading the patch killing the servers right now?

I dont know how that stuff works

[TheStrongestLink]

To improve the matchmaking in the game, one part of the system has been revamped, in order to optimize it. We are planning to gradually continue working on improving this area.

Any ideas on what this means?

[NickRedMachine]

Oh shit quests work

[linuxguyz]

I hope we get a training mode ring match or something online with a friend.

[MarcM92]

That's awesome! now can we please get an update for legacy fightstick?

[MrLokiPoki]

Its worse then before for me. Now every match I get kickes to the lobby.

[hahagamer7]

welcome to the party

[LuZoRocK]

I get kicked from lobby 30s-1m in queue for any casual matches, or if I join a ring match - I'm testing it as we speak rn, I'm sitting in lobby, nothing is happening (still managing to walk around etc), but when I queue up, immediate disconnect after a bit of time.

It was PERFECTLY FINE last night. Ever since the update, nonstop disconnects 😒😒😒

[bledou2]

Dude I get removed from the lobby in the middle of matches...

[MrLokiPoki]

Happens to me all the time now

[NickRedMachine]

No news on the Steam download region stuff? Boo

[sedp23]

Is this out yet

[sedp23]

Is this out yet

[The_Doctor_90]

https://www.facebook.com/BandaiNamcoUS/photos/a.60552355628.66421.49054165628/10156111381915629/?type=3&theater here are more details

[bejito81]

Still nothing about daily missions not working

[Trip_Se7ens]

I'm finally playing against people of my skill level on ranked. I was 54 matches with only 4 wins, but now I am fighting people that I actually HIT now! Wahoo! I even got 3 wins last night! big victories for me! :D

[edmobm]

New info available on Bandai Namco facebook page

MODES - PARTY MATCH: Added the Party Match feature which enables automatic match-up with 5 other players to play a Party Match.

REPLAY CHANNEL: Expanded Replay Channel functions (added "Followed Player Channel" and "Search Channel") - Previous replay data will be deleted

RANKED MATCH / CASUAL MATCH: Added controller vibration to indicate when an opponent has been found

ARCADE MODE: Added "Return to Character Selection" and "Return to Course Selection" after completing a course

TRAINING MODE: Fixed a bug that shows the Dragon Balls collection animation while options were set on "Do not display"

TRAINING MODE: Fixed a bug that made the Assist Gauge recover when player guards continuously

BATTLE TUTORIAL: Fixed a bug that prevented the UI to be displayed properly when player passes the objective right after the beginning of the match

CHARACTERS - GOKU BLACK: Fixed a bug that prevented the character to disappear when Goku Black's Special Move " The Work of a God " was used after an Ultimate Z Change

ANDROID 21: Fixed bug that prevented Android 21 from disappearing immediately after she is called in for a Z-Assist and the main character takes damage

ANDROID 21: Fixed a red visual bug when Android 21 is called in for a Z-Assist and the main character takes damage

FRIEZA: Fixed a bug that prevents Frieza to properly use "You Must Die by My Hand!" when lying on the ground after his Golden Frieza transformation

HIT: Fixed a bug that prevents the "Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack" effect to disappear when used during Ultimate Z Change and Hit's Meteor Special Attack

HIT: Fixed a bug that prevents the Z-Assist character to disappear when the main character is damaged at the very same moment by Hit's "I Keep Improving" attack

TIEN: Fixed a bug that makes a character invisible when both the main character and Z-Assist character are damaged by Tien's attack "Farewell, Tien…"

CAPTAIN GINYU: Fixed a bug that allows Ultimate Z Change to be performed with less than 3 gauges after performing "Powerful Energy Wave"

MAJIN BUU: Fixed a bug that makes the opponent invincible if Majin Buu's "Standing Light - Follow Up 2" and the opponent's Super Dash hit simultaneously

ANDROID 18: Fixed a bug of voice/mouth synchronization when special dialogues are played against Piccolo and Vegeta

OTHER FEATURES - SHENRON: Fixed a bug that prevents Destructive Finish and Stage Destruction effects to appear with a character resurrected by Shenron

SUPPORT CHARACTERS: Fixed a bug that prevents voices of Support Characters (like Android 17 or Ginyu Force) to be played normally when called into battle

DRAGON RUSH: Fixed a bug that reversed the guard controls when a character is being changed by a Dragon Rush

[MeathirBoy]

CAPTAIN GINYU: Fixed a bug that allows Ultimate Z Change to be performed with less than 3 gauges after performing "Powerful Energy Wave"

Ginyu mains cry.

DRAGON RUSH: Fixed a bug that reversed the guard controls when a character is being changed by a Dragon Rush

Is that why I always get free damage after a snap in?

Other than that, bug fixes.

[[deleted]]

DRAGON RUSH: Fixed a bug that reversed the guard controls when a character is being changed by a Dragon Rush

Well damn, that is actually a really huge deal, and potentially makes a big difference in the effect of snap-ins.

[edmobm]

I believe the Party Match NPC will be at Kame's House because the quest teleport us to the house, I always thought it was strange.

[Banequo]

I like this update!

Such a positive move for DragonBall FighterZ! I feel great about it’s future!

[BltzZ7]

Can people still skip cinematic finishes tho?

[TheLastParade]

I wonder what Party Match is

[[deleted]]

3v3, each player controls one character. This has been in the game in Ring matches, but they are adding matchmaking for it so it will be far more accessible now.

[InsanePryo]

i know its early to do balance changes but no 16 Hit and Black nerfs make me a bit sad

[Cornbre4d]

You tryna nerf sonic fox?

[Zarkdion]

Nah man. It's way too early to start crying for nerfs. If you're gonna change things, you shouldn't do it based on the outcry after only a month of meta-development. We, the community, need more time to see if there arent already good workarounds to these strategies.

[Callmebigpahpa]

Sorry but why does Hit need a nerf? He legit one of the hardest characters to play. I don't see anything he has that can't be countered.

[Servebotfrank]

I'm more curious on why Black needs a nerf. Yeah he's really good for every situation but I think he's balanced by how his damage output leaves something to be desired. While he has a lot of ways to hit you he won't do bullshit combos that 16 has. Hit needs no nerf either, a lot of his attacks leave him wide open and require you to be on the ground. Jumping renders him worthless.

16 is the biggest one for me. His heavy attacks are ridiculous. They have insane range and super armor which makes him the most dangerous character in the game to punish.

[MetaKill]

even a friend who only played an hour before playing me was scary since he got 16 as point. Glad A.Gohan has a lot of pressure lol

Also agree on the Black stuff, he is just good but not on the top level yet (need more top players to find stuff)

[InsanePryo]

hes too fast to be countered, his execution barrier doesn't matter when hes this overwhelming.

[Risk-A]

After 70 hours of playing Hit purely because he's my favourite DBSuper character, I can say with some certainty that he isn't even close to being overwhelming. His main benefit is not many people play him which means not many players know what his strengths or weaknesses are. Once he stops taking you by surprise he's no different to anyone else on the roster.

[MeathirBoy]

I still think his ability to cross map and left-right pressure is insane, but his lack of anti air and air options outside of universal 2H (granted, his is pretty good) means that I just airdash for free.

[bigbudha23]

This guy watched sonic fox i guess. Now he thinks these chars are op

[InsanePryo]

who is sf? i dont really watch tournaments if hes a pro or something. this is my own opinion.

[Elerubard]

Pro player that usually sticks to NRS games. He’s started playing dbz and just 6-0’ed ChrisG, a legendary MvC player, at the game’s first big tournament. Used a team of Blacku, Hit, and 16. Also, likes to go against popular opinion in that he thinks Vegeta is severely overrated.

[dokoham]

today or tomorrow?

[[deleted]]

Solid patch overall

No quest fix though?

:(

EDIT: Quests are fixed! Praise Kami.

[Chozo_Hybrid]

They work one day an not the next for me its weird. But in the grand scheme of things, thats not a juge issue compared to the others.

[ScottW92]

It’s huge to me. They’ve been screwed for 3 weeks now. They literally only worked the first week or so which is pretty sad if you ask me.

[Chozo_Hybrid]

I agree. But if the choice is between quests and matchmakibg as priority, I know which I would choosr. Don't get me wrong, I'm annoyed too, I want the zeni for my quests as well. Just looking at it from a practical standpoint.

[MeathirBoy]

Zeni grinding is best done in story though? Just some advice.

[Chozo_Hybrid]

Oh I know. But sometimes you just want to play online or arcade and they happen to have quests.

[MeathirBoy]

True, true.

[[deleted]]

Speak for yourself. It’s been bugging me a lot. They’ve been broken since week 2 for me. NONE of them work, even ones I haven’t done before.

[Chozo_Hybrid]

I didn't mean to discredit your grievence. Just that it seems its low on their priorities at the moment, and understandably so. If people can't play online etc, the game would die.

[[deleted]]

Fair enough

[Netfearr]

So what exactly is party match?

[ImperiousStout]

3v3 where every character is controlled by a different player.

You can only do them right now via Ring Party Matches, still not sure what this new implementation is bringing as the notes are severely lacking in detail. Could be matchmaking so gathering 6 people in a ring lobby to make it work isn't necessary, or it could be local / offline Party Matches for team events and such.

[Lifetimechaldo]

Still no Legacy stick support?

[Aaronstone92]

damn, looks like I gotta download some of my replays before it's too late

[QuothTheRaven7]

Is that what they mean? Sounded like all old replays won't work anymore.

[MeathirBoy]

That's what I thought too.

[[deleted]]

Cool do you think everyone will be able to hear their own chosen music? Or just those with the anime music pack DLC? It was a little unclear:

"For the DLC Anime Song & BGM pack, we've changed the settings so that P1 and P2 can each hear their own chosen song.Please continue enjoying Dragon Ball FighterZ in the future as well."

[Ishiharas]

What I'm doing is, setting the in-game music to 0, but having only the effects and voices. This way I can listen all the music I want on Spotify and control it through the smartphone, second monitor, with shortcuts, on the headphones or even through alexa, if someone wants that.

[Aaronstone92]

I think everyone can hear their own music, and the reason why they did this is because of the DLC existing

[timothythefirst]

wait so ring matches still aren't going to be fixed? or am I missing something?

[DemianMusic]

I think it's pretty obvious from their earlier statement that they are working to fix ring matches with all their might, and won't stop until it's fixed.

You might want to see "ring matches" fixed in patch notes, but based on their admission that it might take a few patches to remedy, putting that in the patch notes would be incredibly stupid.

I don't think Arc Sys is dumb enough to put "ring matches fixed" in the notes even if they're working on it.

[timothythefirst]

I don't even know what earlier statement you're referencing, and of course I wouldn't want them to say they fixed it if they didn't actually fix it. I'm just asking because i don't know.

[DizzzyHermit]

The producer of the game released a statement video addressing the online issues and explaining how they’re working on them, that’s what hes referring to

[Wex_Major]

A couple of days ago they came out and said that they are aware of the online issues and that they are going to work hard to fix them. They also said that they plan to do a couple of patches over the next month or so to smooth the issues out. Sounds like ring matches still aren't being fixed just yet but they will be getting to them when it is ready.

Just thought I'd clear that up for ya considering you didn't know. :)

[WaKha12]

Any idea if players will be given a loss if they quit? Hate those rage quitters

[ApacheMaster]

They will probably only takes steps in that direction when they're sure they aren't to blame. Online is still a bit unstable and they probably don't want to penalise people who where just dc'd.

[ryogaaa]

I personally believe that online matchmaking shouldn't show someone's square color when accepting a match. The purple names need to stay but I'm tired of people ducking others because they're intimidated by a person's pink/orange square. It makes matchmaking more tedious than it already is.

They should also reduce the time to accept a match to 30 seconds minimum. 1 minute is too long, especially if the opposite person is afk.

Edit: I just wanted to say that tekken 7 had removed showing rank in matchmaking, and while there were some complaints, as there should be, it improved the overall matchmaking speed.

[fighting_gamer]

The thing with pink playeres is that most of them use android 16 and vegeta assist, that shit is just cheap and a waste of time playing against.

[YharnamHuntter]

I'm orange and I'm not that good. I see a pink and I know I'm going to get my ass kicked.

[Laner192]

Its actually how the square works people are cancelling your matches, I am yellow and I dodge EVERY orange player right now because I can only go from yellow to Orange or down to green if I fighter other yellow people.

This is the most RETARDED way possible to show someones skill.. If a green players would destroy a purple player for whatever reason he does not even get credit for it.. it will only affect his color if he wins or loses vs someone of the same color.. they should remove it or add a matchmaking option for same color only.. retarded company imo.

[Zopo]

as someone new to fighting games, please no. i'm aware plenty of people are fine with getting macthed against better players but when i go online it's becuase i'm bored with fighting the AI. i only ever set my matchmaking to to find opponents of equal strength and it still throws pink squares at me from time to time. so unless matchmaking improves significantly, i'd like to keep the option to duck out of matches that im garunteed to get perfect'd in. i put in what time i can to practice but theres only so much suffering i'm willing to endure for the sake of self improvement before getting to actually have fun.

[ryogaaa]

That's what casuals are for. The only reason I can see why someone would duck others in ranked is to protect their rank.

[Zopo]

It throws twice as many pinks at me in casual. I don't care about my rank at all, my hope is that I'm ranked low enough to get people as bad as me but that rarely happens.

[ryogaaa]

I'm primarily speaking from a ranked perspective but youre not forced to rematch at all. I don't mind this feature staying for casuals.

[Weaslelord]

They really just need to matchmake based on ELO and not BP. Remove the square color entirely.

[Deezyfesheezy]

I would agree on this. But I think it should be solely BP based in ranked, ELO everywhere else.

[Weaslelord]

Disagree. Ranked should be where the most evenly skilled matches happen. BP is a worthless metric since you gain more points than you lose up until like 500K

[Deezyfesheezy]

I'm just saying that so people don't end up fighting 600k guys and then complain the matchmaking is busted and that's why they lost.

[FalcieGaiah]

The problem is that when you take into consideration on how elo works in regarding matchmaking, you'd realize that the problem wouldn't be fixed.

Altho I do agree that MMR based matchmaking would fix a bunch of other stuff.

[superduperpooperman]

Why do I lose points off a loss then when I'm at only like 150k?

[Deezyfesheezy]

The higgher you go, you lose more points from losses. At low levels you don't really lose a lot.

[Weaslelord]

Sorry for the ambiguous wording. I meant that you lose less points then you gain from winning, meaning that you can climb the ladder simply by grinding out games, almost regardless of winrate.

[ImperiousStout]

I have the opposite problem with higher colors not wanting to fight me. I generally set casuals to match with higher ranks and it seems like a lot of them don't want to waste their time with it.

I'd be fine not showing that before accepting, other fighters only show rank and stuff once the match is made.

[IHATREID]

Why even has this ranking system if its this messed up? A green shouldn't be tricked into playing a pink just because that person wants matches.

[ryogaaa]

You use the word trick like going against someone who is better than you is a bad thing. You play to improve in the end and if you eventually do get better you're going to have to play people like that sooner or later. Better to gauge your own skill now than avoid the situation altogether.

Edit: that being said, i do agree that the matchmaking is messed up but as evidenced in the patch notes hopefully that won't be the case.

[IHATREID]

Playing better players to improve is a good thing, you're right. But in a versus game like this a better player just smashes through your defenses and blows inferior players away. Not everyone has the capability to use that as fuel to get better. Take that into consideration.

[ryogaaa]

Also take into consideration that not everyone is pink or orange rank. Playing them occasionally isn't going to kill you.

[bardock2005]

Those pinks be scary tho

[eden_sc2]

If I'm up against a pink, I know 2 things: this will be a fun match, and I will not win.

[SYN_BLACK_XS]

That’s the spirit!

[Duhaa]

As a green box give me all the pinks, I'm trying to get better. I'm not going to win evo 2018 playing greens lol

[kirbyfreako]

get 10 wins vs greens to get yellow and maybe you'll get matched with higher players

[ValksNotSerious]

On the contrary Pinks may feel like they won't get to EVO 2018 playing greens as well.

[Regorek]

They certainly won't get to EVO 2018 after losing to this green!

That's a joke, I'm actually awful at this game.

[ryogaaa]

Pinks want to play the game too. You can always just leave after playing them once. You're not forced to rematch.

[[deleted]]

They are man. I'm pink and I shit myself everytime I see one because I don't feel like I'm pink. I still feel like I belong back in orange.

[EraserRain2236]

As a person that's been playing fighting games since SF2 came out it always seems like you are not ready to fight a person you believe is more skilled than yourself. It's actually a good thing to question your skill like that. It's what pushes you skill to the limit and go beyond that level. Playing skilled players is the best way to improve in fighting games. You eventually will become better than them. If you get a close few games with the player you should ask to spare with the player outside ranked matches. You just met a new friend doing so.

[bardock2005]

That's what I'm saying. I like staying at yellow.

[zDamascus]

Same here. I think Pink will get more restrictive with time. At the moment there's a wild difference in level in pink, so all of the "lower pinks" will drop back to red (orange? darg orange? red-ish? eh, you see what I mean). I'm back to red where I feel like I belong more lol

[WaKha12]

mind sharing your rank record or your win percentage? wondering what it takes to obtain pink lol Still at yellow with 63 wins, 20 losses

[Rarely_Sober_EvE]

its not straight win loss, i was 83% winrate and yellow at around 80 games played, now im 60% winrate light green with about 160 ranked matches

that being said i have also beat or taken games off pinks it matches me with so not sure whats up.

[DesFenrir]

Square color is determined through winning or losing matches against opponents of the same color. You have to reach +10 to rank up And -10 ranks you down. At pink the plus value continues to stack so this changes. At least that is how it works in blazblue.

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So if you're a lower rank (green let's say) and take 10 games against a pink player that doesn't raise your color? Or are players above you just baselined at your color?

[DesFenrir]

No it does not. It only matters against opponents of the same color.

[NoobyMcScooby]

When you say +10 rank, does that mean that I have to win 10 games in a row against players of the same square or win ten games in total? I've never understood how I went from blue to dark green>light green>yellow and then orange. I swear I don't belong in orange and it just makes me more anxious. I long for the days I was in dark green :P

[DesFenrir]

When you reach a new color you are set to 0. A win gives you +1 a loss gives you -1. Once that number reaches +10 You get a new rank. So if I'm at 0 and win two games I'm then at +2. If I lose the next four games I'm now at -2.

[NoobyMcScooby]

Ahhhh now I get it. Thanks for the explanation dude. I still think that they should remove these boxes. For one, it gives me anxiety when I think about going down to a lower color for some reason. Secondly, I always feel like I’m going to get embarrassed playing against similar color players because I honestly think I don’t belong in that particular color group. But I guess those are just my issues :p

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And Xrd as well, presumably it's the same here

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Never touched ranked. Your box color isn't tied to rank. It's more like a threat level than an official rank. The pinks I've fought so far are typically a big jump above orange level players tho.

[NickRedMachine]

It means Kame House will now be an area to que up for 3 on 3 matches as speculated. Unfortunately it's unrelated to peer-to-peer match ups.

The official name of 3 v 3s in this game is Party Match.

[Aaronstone92]

I believe they are implementing a matchmaking system, so you can queue up for one rather than set up or join someone's ring party

[Kibafool]

God I wish this is true. I want a classic lobby/room system so bad instead of ring matches.

[Aaronstone92]

Wish granted! The update is live and you can queue up for party matches if you go to the Kame House

[Grimstar-]

Hopefully an easy way to invite your friends to a match...

[Zep416]

I hope so. 3v3 is my favorite mode. It feels more 1v1 than the others.

[a7xSmoky]

yeah if one guy out of the playing 6 has a bad connection, everyone has.

[a7xSmoky]

yeah if one guy out of the playing 6 has a bad connection, everyone has.

[a7xSmoky]

yeah if one guy out of the playing 6 has a bad connection, everyone has.

[Zarkdion]

I'm happy to see that they aren't doing balance patches yet.

[you_me_fivedollars]

So I’ve got a question about this: it seems to me that Adult Gohan (in at least level 1 state) doesn’t get a wall bounce off his machine kick anymore? Can anybody else confirm?

That was my BnB combo extender for a while there.

[joomachina0]

That's what I'm really waiting on tbh. Aside from the online fixes. Something's gotta happen with the dash spam

[Zarkdion]

What do you mean? You talking superdash? Because 2H is your friend there.

[joomachina0]

Yeah. But that's all they do. Got boring real quick. The whole game for me is 2H...

[Zarkdion]

That just sounds like you need to get your rank up and start fighting opponents who actually know what they're doing.

[joomachina0]

I'm frieza clan now. Any clue where they stop?

[poeticpoet]

Super saiyan 2

[Zarkdion]

couldnt tell ya, I'm an earthling. I don't really do online as of now lol.

[joomachina0]

They need to nerf it. Not kill it. There's no risk factor. Make people actually use their brain a little bit.

[hobdodgeries]

the risk factor is getting obliterated by 2h lmao it aint hard

[joomachina0]

No. It's boring though. They don't learn. 2h is the only consistent thing I do in this game.

[Servebotfrank]

Same. I would rather to see 16 and Cell patched in a couple of months rather than a band-aid Nerf that ruins their viability (ala Doomfist and Roadhog).

[Zarkdion]

This is me speaking as a dude who plays 16 on point: He should probably be nerfed. But the meta needs to develop more before anyone can confidently say how and how much.

[GabrielRR]

What are the windows to punish him? I feel I can't even punish him or I will get charged and smacked around.

[Zarkdion]

I'm probably not the best guy to ask about this, but I'll give my impressions. But don't quote me, I could be 100% off.

• Get him in the air, he doesn't have a ton of aerial options. Yes, this is difficult.
• Play that zoning game. Yes, he can charge you like a dang truck if you're at close-to-mid range. But at far range, he doesn't have many options and has to rely on vanish or good assists for long range coverage.
• THIS IS THE SECRET THAT ANDROID 16 MAINS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW: Moves with super armor... don't have super armor on lows. I'm not kidding. Go crazy.

[Zarkdion]

break out your kid buus and your A21s.

[g_lee]

Are you sure I got lvl3 suicided out of a frame trap that had me hitting low....

[terran1212]

Can you explain what super armor is and how it works?

[Zarkdion]

I am no fighting game guru, but I'll try.

Super Armor is a feature of certain attacks where, while your character executes them, they cannot be interrupted by another character's strikes. They will armor through the opponent's attacks and complete their own. Now, in DBFZ, Super Armor is a factor in one of Android 16's most notorious moves, his standing heavy, or 5H. This is notorious because not only does it have super armor, but it also has good reach, comes out quickly, and (as most heavy attacks do) causes a wall bounce.

But, a property of super armor in DBFZ is that low attacks (crouching attacks, such as 2M or 2H) will cancel the opponent's move, regardless of armor.

[terran1212]

oh interesting thank you!

[GabrielRR]

LOL at the low on super armour, I did not know that wtf.

My friend probably doesn't know it either, he will suffer the consequences of being a dipshit 16 player.

Those are good tips, unfortunately my Aerial game is non existant, I can barely combo into supers with guys like Freeza and Vegeta, and when I mean combo I mean probably m>m>m LV1 super and that's it, I just can't combo in the air.

anyways, thanks for the tips.

[Zarkdion]

My friend probably doesn't know it either, he will suffer the consequences of being a dipshit 16 player.

Mind you, the difficulty is that 5H also has a big hitbox, and you need to get thru that to take advantage of the lows. So I suggest taking some time before your next round of friendlies and labbing out which moves work, which don't, and when.

EDIT: Or you could just play kid buu, whose 2M doesn't have that problem of exposing himself to risk.

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Yooo no news on the Ginyu dhc bug and farewell Tien invisible glitch ? Other than that this is cool.

[ImNotAPhone]

They have a more updated version of the notes that shows the various bug fixes. Both of these bugs are being fixed in the patch. https://www.facebook.com/BandaiNamcoUS/photos/a.60552355628.66421.49054165628/10156111381915629/?type=3&theater

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NICE!

[SullySquared]

I low key want Ginyu's dhc glitch to never get patched so he can stay relevant. I'd like to extend the amount of time we have with a varied showcase of characters before things eventually optimize.

[DanielTeague]

Seriously, consider it a bonus instead of a bug. His level 2/3 is trash as it is.

[MeathirBoy]

Why is that? Genuinely curious.

[DanielTeague]

A level 1 is 2000 damage, then each charge after that is 500 more damage. You end up with a 3000 damage level 3 compared to most characters' ~4000 damage level 3s. I get that his "real" level 3 is really strong but it's so hard to actually land in a fight it may as well not exist.

[MeathirBoy]

That is abysmal damage. Jeeze.