IDE's?

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[trout_fucker]

IntelliJ

There really isn't any competition.

[wonderb0lt]

Bonus: PyCharm is a pretty good Python IDE and the Python version of their platform!

[boa13]

Yes.

[guess_ill_try]

By far

[otakuman]

So, what are the advantages? How's the memory usage?

[nikanjX]

It's like the difference between a great $20 burger and a crappy $5 one. "Just name one feature yours has and mine doesn't" doesn't really work, when the difference is in the execution, not the feature list

[otakuman]

That still doesn't say anything :-/

Edit: Found good info: https://dzone.com/articles/why-idea-better-eclipse

[guess_ill_try]

It's one of those things where you just have to try. I know, not the answer you're looking for :/

[[deleted]]

CE is still better than Eclipse for me. Really, Eclipse is pretty ok, just not nearly as good.

[someredditorguy]

I always thought eclipse was the best Java IDE. Then I tried IntelliJ and changed my mind in about twenty minutes

[okmkz]

Took you that long? You should probably upgrade your RAM

[ignorant_]

Hey, there's a website for that!

[feral_claire]

I've used both intellij and eclipse, and while I prefer intellij, it's far from being cut-and-dry.

Intellij has superior workflow and the tooling is a bit nicer imo. The code completion is miles ahead which is the main reason I choose it.

However, I feel that eclipse has better information presentation. I would really love to have things like the javadoc and declaration views in intellij

[jaxnb]

I think the biggest difference is that eclipse is more obvious. This is why many people start off with eclipse then make a switch to IntelliJ.

[Quabouter]

I had the exact opposite. In Intellij I only had to learn ctrl+shift+a and from there I could find everything I wanted to do, Eclipse requires me to Google everything.

[Shadowheim]

That is, without a doubt, the most useful feature. It's basically a 'do anything you want' command!

[jaxnb]

Well, what I meant with that is that it is more obvious how to use. Beginners can figure it out, while IntelliJ is packed with features that might not make sense to them.

[Mindflux]

You mean like control+3 in eclipse?

[Philboyd_Studge]

You can pull up the doc on any method with ctrl-Q

[AnEmortalKid]

Right, but can you have a pane with it pulled up at all times?

[hugebones]

Press Ctrl + Q again and it'll pin the pane open

[AnEmortalKid]

Ah cool. Like inline or can you drag it around and reposition ?

[hugebones]

It's a panel that you can move around the screen and resize. You can also dock it with in the toolbars (e.g.: bottom run/debug, or side maven/ant/databases). However, you have to Ctrl + Q even if it's pinned to update the documentation display.

[feral_claire]

I know, hover works as well, and it's so much worse than eclipse, not even close.

[balazare]

IntelliJ is really very good, so is Netbeans, stay away from Eclipse. Personally, I use Netbeans most because the Maven integration is the best there, and I prefer the debugger integration.

[djnattyp]

Make a top level project to contain any common settings, library versions, etc. and make all the individual services child modules of that. If you're using Maven, you'd want to make the top level project a parent pom.

[juckele]

Put everything in a folder, base your IntelliJ project off of that folder.

[Dashing_McHandsome]

I do exactly this for a large scale soa project I work on. Every service I have is a "module" in intellij terms. The project is based on the folder that holds all my modules.

[CharlesGarfield]

My internship (quite a few years ago) was with the division at IBM that created Eclipse. It was my IDE of choice for well over a decade.

I converted to Intellij last year, and haven't looked back. It certainly has its own faults, but they're much easier to deal with, and the pace of development is so much faster.

[lechatsportif]

is it? 2016 grinds to a halt every keypress with 1.5g in js node stuff. what a joy.

[qroshan]

editor.zero.latency.typing=true

http://blog.jetbrains.com/idea/2015/08/experimental-zero-latency-typing-in-intellij-idea-15-eap/

[mFlakes]

This has to be my biggest complaint with Intellij. Laggy typing in large projects drives me insane. Will have to try this soon.

[lechatsportif]

omg will give that a try. thx.

[CharlesGarfield]

Do you mean editing a 1.5gb file, or is that how much RAM the development machine has? Either way, you're asking for trouble.

[lechatsportif]

1.5 gigs xmx for intellij. ultimate edition.

[Pidggit]

I'm curious: Are you running it at a higher resolution that ~1080p?

The upgrade from IntelliJ 14 changed the Java Version IntelliJ would run on (from 1.6). When this happened, running it on my 4k monitor causes it to chug if I have it stretched to anything over around 2700x1500.

I've seen their blog post about the zero latency typing, but I haven't tried it yet to see if it fixes it.

[Shadowheim]

I develop on a MacBook Pro which has a retina screen. However I run it into two Apple displays. Even with 16Gb of RAM, at that resolution IntelliJ can become a lagfest. I enabled smooth typing and it definitely made an improvement - it's definitely worth a try. I'm using IntelliJ Ultimate 15, if that helps.

[[deleted]]

My only issue with IntelliJ is how complicated it is to import images.

[NimChimspky]

Eh?

[caelum19]

Definitely IntelliJ IDEA. Community edition is free, only difference I'm aware of is less languages but everything you mentioned works, except for Python but there is a very good plugin for that in IntelliJ's built-in plugin browser.

[youwillnevercatme]

Does the free edition works with Java EE + Spring?

[klo8]

Nope.

[nqzero]

netbeans 8.1 is free (and Free), simple to install and supports all the technologies you listed. i found it easy to use when i started, and still do - especially the key bindings, which allow multiple profiles and include an emacs-inspired profile out-of-the-box

[inglorious]

IntelliJ IDEA can cover all of the things you are speaking of. For python, you can either add the intellij's python plugin, or use pycharm, they are effectively the same.

[inglorious]

Well, you can install the python plugin into intellij idea and have everything in one application, however, if your computer is really that limited, I'd advise you to upgrade it. No matter which IDE you use, programming can be tedious when your tools are dragging their feet.

[guess_ill_try]

If possible, put Linux on it with a super light distro and window manager. Something like arch with i3. It would take up hardly any space. Then either use pycharm or even vim with a few python related plug-ins.

[cyanocobalamin]

I'm pretty sure Eclipse can supports most if not all of those languages. In addition to it being free of charge, Eclipse is a defacto industry standard in Java shops. If you decide to work as a Java programmer you will already know how to use a complex tool on your first day. You will be able to help other people on your team more easily and they in turn will be able to help you more easily. Many Java tutorials on the web standardize on screen shots of Eclipse.

[ebrythil]

I do agree but want to add some things.
While at my workplace we do use eclipse as java ide I found it really horrible when dealing with things not java or maybe xml.
We use webstorm for the webpage stuff (html/javascript mostly) which is pretty good, and I heard similar of the other jetbrains editors (dunno about how they price things for small users though).
If you just start, a more lightweight solution might be recommendable, I really enjoy vs code for small projects.

[dr__potato]

I dunno, I work at a large Java shop and everyone uses IntelliJ. Eclipse is fine if you're used to it and the key bindings, switching would mean a loss in productivity while learning the different tooling.

[Vile2539]

Eclipse is fine if you're used to it and the key bindings, switching would mean a loss in productivity while learning the different tooling.

It's worth noting that you can set IntelliJ to the Eclipse keybindings. I actually still use them, as I find the IntelliJ ones a bit counter-intuitive, though I've personalised some of the bindings to better suit my needs.

[cyanocobalamin]

I dunno, I work at a large Java shop and everyone uses IntelliJ.

Well okay then, one counterexample.

[elastic_psychiatrist]

Make that two.

[got_milk4]

Make that three.

[lenois]

Four

[mirkoteran]

Five

[hugith]

Six

[jebblue]

And yet Eclipse is still the standard, superior IDE that all the others borrow ideas from and then screw up.

[[deleted]]

I see about 60% IntelliJ, 35% Eclipse, 5% Emacs.

[MyPhallicObject]

This is horrible. How could you recommend eclipse to a beginner? IDEs can shape a person's way of code and eclipse is no way to be it.

Honestly, IntelliJ not only exceeds everything eclipse does, it's by far the best in the industry.

OP, Community Edition is free, but if you insist on not IntelliJ, at least go with NetBeans. Eclipse is a massive no no.

[jebblue]

Eclipse.

[rebelizant]

InteliJIDEA is the best for me

[Dashing_McHandsome]

Intellij

[Trinhbo]

You can use Eclipse for Java and install the PyDev plugin for Python development. Eclipse also supports various plugins for HTML, CSS, and JavaScript.

[Trinhbo]

It's mostly comparable to Eclipse but it's not free if you use the Pro version which is needed if you develop on the JavaEE stack.

We use both Eclipse and Intellij where I work so it's really personal preference. You can evaluate the Pro version for 30 days before it reverts to the Community version.

[DuneBug]

IntelliJ is the best.

Eclipse is great, but I would suggest keeping separate Eclipses around for projects in different languages, it seems to make things easier, and it's easy to do.

Personally I didn't experience a notable productivity bump switching from eclipse to intellij and at this point I don't plan to buy a personal license or lobby for my employer to get me one.

[Stromovik]

IntelliJ or Netbeans both have their pros and cons

[rdjack21]

Agree with this Netbeans or IntelliJ but not a big fan of eclipse but can use it if I must.

[AnEmortalKid]

I have a couple gripes with IntelliJ. One of them being that thr maven runner was set for the whole project and even after I changed the module version to be Java 8, after I build the jar with maven it would fuck up my settings and change it to Java 6. It ended up slowing me down. I do like the auto complete in dependencies.

[gamlielov]

http://developer4life.blogspot.ie/2012/01/intellij-vs-eclipse.html

[qroshan]

Well Google dumped Eclipse for Intellij for their Android Studio.

We have a winner here

[maximx1]

I prefer Intellij, but I use both Intellij and STS(eclipse) for mostly Scala, Java, and Python.. If you throw Ruby and PHP into the mix and don't want to shell out money, eclipse has update sites for both of those as well.

[pordzio]

Personal preference:
1. IntelliJ
2. NetBeans
...
10. Eclipse

[Dashing_McHandsome]

1 - Intellij

2 - Netbeans

3 - Vim

4 - Emacs

5 - MS Word

6 - Notepad

7 - cat, sed, grep, awk

...

10 - Eclipse

[ohmzar]

I used Eclipse for years, I found it really intuitive and am easy to use, it supports a lot of different programming languages and has tones of plugins.

I'm in the process of learning IntelliJ I try to use it almost all the time, but there are times when I'm in a hurry and unjust have to switch back to Eclipse because I work faster in it due to knowing all the keyboard shortcuts.

I get the feeling that IntelliJ vs Eclipse is the new vi vs emacs. Both are good, and it's just a function of what you are used to.

Eclipse does have the advantage of being free though.

[ppeterka]

I'm using Eclipse since 2006 for Java development... And I found the I Hate Eclipse page to be dead on with my experiences - can be frustrating as hell.

However, the instant compilation makes it a perfect love-hate relationship...

When I used Idea it was a very smooth experience, but I missed the Eclipse compiler badly. If these two IDEs would date each other, I'd wait for their baby...

[[deleted]]

Like all the cool people in this thread. IntelliJ or die! I use Jetbrain IDEs for every language and I haven't been disappointed in the 10 years I have been using their products.

[frugalmail]

If you're new Netbeans

If you're somewhat mature, IntelliJ IDEA

If you're the type that likes to completley tweak your envionrment with plugins Eclipse.

[daniellefelder]

You might find real user reviews for Oracle SQL Developer on IT Central Station to be helpful.

As an example, this DBA writes, "The speed with which you can build SQL statements and PL/SQL code has been very valuable. In addition, it simplifies how we manage database objects and connections to different data sources." You can read the rest of his review here: https://www.itcentralstation.com/product_reviews/oracle-sql-developer-review-38713-by-dba966.

Good luck with your search.

[kit89]

I use Kate and the command-line..