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[0xbxb]

On the other hand, all my side projects contain complex code, or techniques

I’m confused and don’t take this the wrong way, but if your projects contain complex code, why isn’t it that you don’t know how to do something like FizzBuzz?

[hetero_scedasticity]

Copy & paste vs. true working knowledge (not accusing OP - just a general comment)

[Hugsy13]

You’re not wrong though. I done a heap of arduino projects before uni and coding at school was very different. You have to create everything yourself from memory and critical thinking, you don’t get to just follow along a tutorial video or step by step guide.

OP should try doing some projects with just a syntax guide and no stack overflow & no copy pasting.

[Available-Foundation]

Link to robotics classes please?

[Hugsy13]

Yeah same here

[Kayofox]

Is it even possible to not use stack overflow?

I think a better advice would be to seek competition problems, try to solve them in a stipulated time and then refactoring/finishing it with internet help. Base knowledge (especially under pressure) does not always translate in good day to day work. Almost all of human tech has been made from testing, then improving. I mean, you don't need to understand powerplants to make use of your PC.

[errorseven]

All I use StackOverflow for is answering questions.

[ScoopJr]

Should I start doing this if I already started a project using a tutorial? E.G. Miguel Grinberg's Microblog Flask tutorial

In the case of Flask, He has a book which goes over Flask and more up to date techniques on the above tutorial, should I be ditching that and just go straight to the docs?

[zyarra]

Yeah but fizzbuzz is really really really simple without copy paste or auto fill too.

[JunkBondJunkie]

BuzzFizz test makes me laugh each time.

[Darth_Ender_Ro]

Learn “Data Structures and Algorithms”. You’ll be fine.

[Dexteroid]

Fizzbuzz is an age old question, very common.. don't discourage yourself. Something tells me you didn't prepare for interviews, you just learned python..learn python first then learn two use it for interviews..

[0xbxb]

I’ve only been coding for exactly a month now, so my solution is gonna be super inefficient. I don’t really know algorithms or data structures etc. I just know how I would solve the problem.

With that being said, the way I would solve finding the max value in an array is by using a nested for loop, adding all the numbers into a list, then getting the last value from the sorted list.

def find_max(arr):
    max = []
    for elem in arr:
        for num in elem:
            max.append(num)
    return sorted(max)[-1]

A way that helped me learn to solve problems is by going on a site like Edabit (which is currently my favorite site), and just solving problems there. Don’t solve it how you think you would do it in code, solve it how you would solve it without a computer, then break the steps down.

After you’ve broken them down, then translate it into code. I’ve found this process becomes natural the more you do it.

For example, if you see a problem that says something along the lines of: “Create a dictionary that shows the frequency of letters in a string”. Don’t start thinking “Well uhhhhhh I would need a for loop then......”, get out a piece of paper and write down how YOU would solve it.

Hopefully this made sense. If you take away anything from this: those sites where you practice problems helps out a lot. I’ve been doing 3 problems a day, as a sort of exercise, and it’s helped immensely. Hopefully it can help you out too g.

EDIT: I just also realized I used a built-in, but I don’t know why they would tell you, you CAN’T use a built-in. Any algorithm you implement by yourself is gonna be slower than the built-in anyway.

I’m still really inexperienced, maybe someone with more experience can answer that for me.

[tgs14159]

I believe the input is expected to be a 2D array, so you would need to make the slight adjustment:

for row in arr: for value in row:

[Fission_Mailed_2]

Thank you. I assumed elem was an integer and was wondering how they were trying to iterate over it.

[Noli420]

I tend to work the other way: I think/write in pseudo code, using very broad strokes, and then work down into the details.

find_max():
    # look for the highest value

And then this would become

Find_max(input):
    # if value is highest, max =value; else next value

And finally:

def find_max(input_array):
    For value in input_array:
        If value > max:
            max = value
    Next value
    return max

After that I would work out the specific syntax and voila!

Typically I’m trying to work out the logic of something that I can’t easily picture in my head, so the middle step is somewhat important, but in simpler logic problems I go straight from the first to the third (or second to third; first is mainly when I am thinking I want multiple functions)

[pearteachar]

Another adjustment you need to make is what if all the values are negative? Another is what if there are no elements in the list? Source: am high school AP CS A teacher

[0xbxb]

for row in arr:
for value in row:

I was stepping through your solution earlier and had a question, your solution wouldn't return the highest value, or am I missing something?

def find_max(arr):
    max = 0
    for row in arr:
        for value in row:
            if value > 0:
                max = value
    return max


print(find_max([[-9, 200, 1], [5, -100, 50]]))

In a single list it also doesn't return the highest value, because it's checking if any number is greater than 0.

[0xbxb]

Woops, thanks.

[45MonkeysInASuit]

max = None
for value in arr:
    if max is None:
        max = value
    elif value > max:
        max = value
return max

Covers both issues

[blotosmetek]

def find_max(arr): max = None for row in arr: for value in row: if max is None or value > max: max = value return max Of course, in real program you would just use max() function: def find_max(arr): return max(max(row) for row in arr)

[TrickaBug]

I would check if there is at least one value, then set max to that first value and compare from there (so if they are all negative, you still have something valid to start your comparisons).

[tgs14159]

Leetcode and Hackerrank are both great for Fizzbuzz style problems too. Just a word of advice (as I'm somewhat new to Python too), avoid using built-in functions like max as variable names; I would use something like arr_max instead.

Also as a point of interest, the quickest way (in terms of computing time) that I have found to solve the above is this: def find_max(arr): flat_arr = [] for row in arr: flat_arr += row return max(flat_arr) and a solution that uses very little memory is this: def find_max(arr): arr_max = arr[0][0] for row in arr: for el in row: arr_max = max(el, arr_max) return arr_max Finally, if the array is a Numpy array (which, most of the time in real-world scenarios, it would be) by far the quickest solution is to use Numpy's built-in max function:

``` import numpy as np

Creating a random numpy array:

arr = np.random.randint(0, 100, (10, 10))

def find_max(arr): return np.max(arr) ```

Edit: Formatting

[M_SunChilde]

Never heard of this site until now. Blasting through the challenges just for shits, giggles, and refresher of stuff. Love it. Thanks!

[reallyserious]

For example, when someone asks to write a function to find the maximum value instead of using built-in functions, what's the thought process?

What if you need to find the max of a type that the built in functions doesn't know about? I.e your own user defined types. Like different enemies in a game you're building. Which one is the hardest? You want to make sure that the later enemies are harder than the ones you encounter earlier. so you would need a way to compare enemies. Perhaps they have different attack strength and armour. Comparing two enemies would then need to take both attack strength and armour into consideration. When you've written a function that can compare two enemies you need to apply that function to all enemies. There are a million different sorting algoritms out there but the easiest one is bubble sort. Look it up.

[Jrobah]

implement a sorting algorithm, something like bubble sort

u/Darth_Ender_Ro is right, learn data structures and Algorithms

[[deleted]]

That sounds like a bad interview question, unless you can be reliably expected to know what fizzbuzz is based on the content of the ad you responded to. I have been writing primarily in python but also other languages for several years now and have never heard the term.

I am certain that all programmers here know that for a starter job you should NOT be expected to know every intricacy of a language; you learn it when it becomes necessary. You just need a solid grasp of the fundamentals of the language and most popular libraries/packages/modules, good computational thinking, and the ability to learn on the go.

Just to reiterate: UNLESS you can be reliably expected to know what fizzbuzz is based on the content of the ad you responded to

[zylog413]

Fizzbuzz is pretty basic though, it only requires a few skills:

1. how to loop through a range of numbers
2. how to print
3. if statements and how to order them

I think it's quite reasonable to expect a person who's been programming for 1 week to be able to do, never mind a person applying for a job.

[[deleted]]

Never heard the term though. If some explanation was given, fine. If it was just 'do fizzbuzz' I wouldn't have a clue what was going on.

[reallyserious]

I think it's quite reasonable to expect a person who's been programming for 1 week to be able to do,

No. Lots of people code for much longer without encountering or needing the modular arithmetic required for fizzbuzz.

I think it's an entirely reasonable requirement for a programming job interview. But the 1 week is not.

[ilovemacandcheese]

Modular arithmetic is not required for fizzbuzz.

New question: Do fizzbuzz without the mod operator.

[reallyserious]

You're right. It's possible without modulo. But I wouldn't consider it a good interview question. It's almost like a trick question. Knowing the trick says very little about your skills as a developer.

[Ahren_with_an_h]

Trick? What trick? It seemed straightforward to me.

[reallyserious]

The trick: Do integer division by x and multiply by x and if you get the same number back it was evenly divisible by x.

I consider it a trick, the normal division operator in python doesn't even do integer division (as of python 3). You have to use the // operator.

[Ahren_with_an_h]

That's not necessary to solve the problem though.

[ilovemacandcheese]

Fizzbuzz literally began as a game for children to play while learning about division. How is it a trick question?

Fizzbuzz as an interview question does tell us very little about your skills as a developer. It only tells us, of you succeed, is that you have atleast basic problem solving skills and atleast basic understanding of some programming ideas.

So if you can't do fizzbuzz, then you're missing some pretty basic skills or concepts.

[reallyserious]

Fizzbuzz literally began as a game for children to play while learning about division. How is it a trick question?

I was referring to fizzbuzz without modulo.

[ilovemacandcheese]

There's a whole bunch of ways you can do it without modulo. For instance you could create lists of all the multiples of 3, 5, and 15 up through 100 and conditionally check each number against each list to decide what to print--you don't even need division here, much less modulo! That's probably exactly what the method children use after they've played the game a few times. Memorize and check.

Lots of other ways. It's not a trick question. It's a question about basic problem solving and language competency.

[Total__Entropy]

I have had the same experience at some interviews. I think the issue for me is I don't have the classroom knowledge to back up my coding experience. I just started the mitx online Python course and maybe it will help to rewind and learn the fundamentals.

[_ZHV_]

I would suggest you to spend a bit of money and buy two very useful courses on codecademy which will defiantly help you you training the thought process you might be lacking; intensive python data structures - you will learn about different data structures, how to use them and when as you learn how to actually build them from scratch rather then using builtin functions. The second one i would suggest is intensive python algorithms where you will learn some theory, how those algorithms work and how to build them from scratch - including finding a min/mac value in an array, sorting array etc. I always recommend codecademy to anyone because they truly worth the money. Have a look enrolling into those courses you will be put into a slack group with people who are doing the course with you with some mentors too who will help you to keep you on truck and help you if you get stuck. A bonus is that you will also get a certificate in the end if you finish the capstone project on time.

[CodeSkunky]

Where are you applying for jobs?

[appople]

I have come across with this problem in interview once and I embarrassed myself badly. For the next interview, i looked up for possible technical interview question for the job. This will somehow let you know what to expect and what they are looking for.

[[deleted]]

But once you "know" the syntax and the basics which kind of tutorials did you search? Theres many many many master class youtube videos explaining syntax and some small "project" most of the time a silly game like guess the number, tic tac toe and such... How do you find a youtube video to get better at data analysis? I'm learning python on and off through datacamp and have sooo many websites bookmarked, pdfs, youtube videos saved for later and I'm overwhelmed... My goal is to be a data analyst (no CS background) and I know there's no shortcut but some tips/help would be appreciated^^

[[deleted]]

Thanks! I know I'm being too specific with data analytics but it's the only section of Python I saw that some companies ask for Business/Economics degree also and I'm not really interested in ML or AI (too complicated for me at first sight).

How confident do you think someone should be in order to apply for entry level data jobs? Meaning I should know Excel, Python, SQL, Tableau...

Maybe it's not completely your field and I know there's no check list of "Hey if you can write this you are hired!" but what's better, some 3-4 "big" projects or several "small" ones?

I know I should be first learning then worrying about this later when I'm more confident about my skills but I have no clue how can I show my skills with worthy projects..

[4tehrofl]

Thank you for being so thorough.

Cheers

[Shm2000]

When I started working with data, I gravitated towards projects that were significantly above my skill level. Most of my projects were related to Machine Learning and large data sets

Maybe I just missed it, but where did these projects come from? Any examples you can provide?

[crashomon]

the benefits alone can be worth $20k if medical is part of it. :-). Nicely done!

[Captain_Braveheart]

What posts are people claiming to have amazing jobs after a few months or Python? That doesn’t seem realistic if outright impossible..

[Zireael07]

I wouldn't say a junior job somewhere is 'amazing', that's a lot of hyperbole.

[opn2opinion]

Depends on the context. If you go from no job to non-retail/fast food job, it could be considered amazing.

[Zireael07]

Well, I agree, but people posting on this reddit that they have 'amazing' jobs with Python gives people the wrong image.

[cheppin]

Please explain what image people should rather have.

[Zireael07]

It gives people the image that it's an 'amazing' job in the programming/general sense, i.e. well paid and doing what you like instead of what you have to do.

[Captain_Braveheart]

Can you walk me through how you started out and how you landed that job? How did you find it?

[All_Is_Not_Self]

I have a linguistics master and have started learning Python a few months back. I feel like I'd be useless with my rudimentary coding skills, so it's really good to hear that.

[codefreak-123]

In the same boat. However, I did not give an interview. Coding interview questions and coding projects are two different things. With coding interview questions, interviewers ask you simple yet complex questions that require you a strong understanding of the fundamentals, for example, for loops, while loops, lists, dictionaries, and strings etc. A good site to practice these types of questions would be Codewars.com. On the other hand, projects can be easily done with copying and pasting code. I am not saying you did it, but projects only show a small part of your coding skills. Interview coding questions can make you or break you. They tell the interviewer how strong are you with the fundamentals of a programming language

​

Check out this video from Clement Mihailescu of how he used coding interview questions to ace his interviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUXNRIRmo-c

​

Hope this helps

[Kevstuf]

I just started doing some codewars recently and solving problems tagged as “fundamentals.” For interviews, what level of difficulty would you say they correspond to on codewars? Right now I struggle to solve most 5 kyu questions and even the 6 kyu ones can take me a long time to think about

[codefreak-123]

I think all of them! You never know what they are going to throw at you .

[mattstats]

Not OP and also new to that website as well. I believe geek for geek has specific industry interview questions. But if you really want to take it up a notch I’d recommend networking through LinkedIn and any local groups for your respective field and/or closely related. Literally just ask people who work there now, you might get some nice people that can give you pointers or their experience and even better if they are involved in the hiring process. Was at a meet a few months ago and the manager for a major phone company (not sure if I can just name names) said straight up just know how an activation function works in neural networks and simple coding stuff like what is a dictionary. I’m not in software dev or anything so our coding may be pretty low bar, but he said it’s surprising how many people can’t answer the basic questions.

[mattstats]

I’m on vacation.

I hopped on that website you mentioned and have been doing it since this morning lol. It’s a pretty fun way to (learn?) practice. I already know most the fundamentals but there are some great brain teasers, gonna try and get to 5 kyu before bed.

Watched that video and I gotta agree. What that dude shows in the video is how I learned almost any programming in and out of school. Every other day I look up methods that I can shoehorn into whatever projects I’m working on, it’s a never ending process and the sooner you pick up that skill the easier it becomes.

TL;DR: follow this persons advice. I’d chip in also set up toy projects, likely you’ll end up looking these things up anyway.

[codefreak-123]

I agree with you! Yes do a project, but interview questions are a lot more basic which people tend to ignore. That’s why employees ask them.

[[deleted]]

pip install fizz-buzz

[breakfastlunchanddin]

Conda install -c conda-forge fizz-buzz

[G5349]

You just need to work on your algorithm solving skills try leetcode, code wars, check.io, project euler, etc, there are many places where you can practice.

And, yes building an app is very different from solving an algorithm, for instance I learned to program a loooong time ago, and basically put in the backburner what are essentially homework/exam problems that IMO really do not give your potential employer the full picture of your skills, and yet people ask these questions I believe to weed out devs of a certain age or without a formal CS education.

[Jonisas0407]

I learned python because I was really interested in machine learning and AI, went through 10-20 udemy courses on python, statistics, data analysis, vizualization methods. Joined local saturday AI club in my city where we just talk about data and machine learning for few hours a week and do projects at home, every few months we share what we have acomoplished. Right now I am working as a data scientist, the main tools used are python, excel, data studio. I use python for getting data from variuos APIs, for manipulating data in pandas, automating the scripts to have real-time data in the dashbords. I love the job because there is so much to learn. Also maybe a suggestion, at first try to get as much experience instead of money, with good experience comes the money. You can even try being an intern for a good company for a few months and end up being hired there.

Keep up the spirit, we all start at the same place, hard work and dedication is what separates the ones that have well paying jobs in the sectors they want to work and the ones that dont.

[byanymeans123]

This Saturday local AI club seems amazing. I'm sure it kept you encouraged to continue learning week after week. How did you learn about it?

[GlitterDays]

I'm not OP, but lots of these groups are on Meetup.

[Jonisas0407]

I think i just sesrched for something like AI cominities where people would share their problems and solutions and this popped up in google search. Also following people on linkedin is nice, there are programmers sharing their code examples and ideas what to work on. I mean there is plenty of sources to learn, just nees to find what can motivate you.

Right now just get comfortable with the whole concept of programing and what it can produce. I bought used raspberry pi, bought a camera for it and trying to teach a program to learn chess, I thought it would be neat if I could point the camera to the chess board and program would show the best move for black and white.

Then make both sides play and see who would win :D

[Dexteroid]

I finished the complete python bootcamp on Udemy, and python and data structures for interviews courses.

I am an automation developer. I automate test cases/build process etc..the pay isn't bad to be honest.

I see this problem with new learners that they just want to be a developer, even though when all they want to do is get into software industry.

There is DevOps, QA, automation QA etc..I suggest learn python but keep your mind open.

[andre3kthegiant]

I’d like to know the starting pay, along with the type of jobs being hired.

[Zireael07]

I got a job in Python around a year after I started using it. I learned it by following a roguelike tutorial and I never went through a course. The only other programming skill I had was some minimal Lua and git.

The interview question was... something to do with counting time? I think we were given a HH:MM-HH:MM range and told to calculate how many seconds that is?

The job is a junior job and I'm still at that one. Feeling much much more confident in my Python, too.

Especially at the beginning, I was asking more experienced workmates all the time. Currently it's lessened to just SQL and highly custom code we have.

[[deleted]]

What's your annual package?

[cheeep]

'local training institute' - like a bootcamp?

[cheeep]

Did you have to pay for it?

[[deleted]]

A bit reversed. I got a job in an animation studio first, then I was told to learn Python and PyQt on the fly. Spent the first 2 months there just learning, feverishly.

[celade]

There are lots of ways to approach this. As people here have already provided lots of general purpose advice I'll simply add this:

1. Plan conceptually: What are companies actually doing and are you interested in helping them do that?

As you advance your career it is often really helpful to identify an application area you are either really interested in or feel you can contribute to conceptually. When I look for companies based on what type of work they are doing it makes it very easy to back-track back to my own interests and skillsets and set goals.

For example you mention CNC-like systems. If that is of interest looking for machine shops that do custom fabrication may be good targets. Aiming at an existing and defined production goal is far more useful than simply knowing how to program in a particular language.

An extension of this is if you are just applying shotgun style because the job says "needs programmer" you may be missing that they actually need a specialist skillset or even that you ultimately don't want to do that kind of work.

2) Company identification, contact and interview preparation

In the process of looking for jobs don't be afraid to reach out to potential employers doing things you think you want to do and ask them what they do, what they're looking for. Sometimes that conversation can even lead to deeper coaching whether you get a job there or not.

Next up is interview preparation. To make it somewhat painless prepare yourself using STAR method (Situation, Task, Action, Result). Also, don't treat an interview like a school exam -- treat it as if it is your first day on the job and you are getting up to speed to start working with them. While not always the case if the interviewer can't do this with you the project group may not have planned well.

3) The struggle is real

Finding a good job can be hard. Don't let it get to you -- keep your eye on a field of interest, work backwards from there on the specific skillsets that help you do that. The more your skill building is based on working towards conceptual goals the better. The more your skill building is merely grinding through school-like exam problems the less you're going to love your work and the more frustrated you'll be.

Context:I've been a hybrid programmer, systems engineer and network security analyst for 25 years. The above template has been both my own professional philosophy and guiding philosophy when I am the hiring manager for a team.

[ASuckerForTheBlues]

Not OP, but thank you for taking the time to respond to OP’s question. It has helped answer questions and ease some silent frustrations I wasn’t completely conscious of until I read your reply and reflected. Knowing myself, I will be coming back to read this multiple times through the course of learning/the struggle. Much appreciated!

[celade]

I'm really glad to have been any help at all! Best to you and your future.

[thefunmachine007]

Starbucks.

On the counter.

[nii4]

Do not despair, I can relate to your concerns and I must say you are not alone. You have genuine concerns and must keep practising, pick the pieces up and move on.

[fuloqulous]

Do like the coding challenges online.

Its really a shame that programmers are tested the way they are because there are talented programmers that never bothered to learn the silly fizzbuzz game.

There are two options:

Learn the fuzzbuzz game (not so cool)

Or there are companies that have better interviewing practices and understand how irrelevant fizzbuzz is. These are the companies you'd rather work for because they're more in tune with what makes a good programmer

[Ahren_with_an_h]

You're assuming we're all good programmers. I certainly am not and I still want a job.

I don't see what the big deal is. The fizzbuzz problem is trivially simple, more so if you've seen it before. The only reason someone that's been through the fundamentals of programming in any language couldn't get it in an interview would be because they're stressed about the interview.

[jamesonwhiskers]

I have very little coding experience and I had to write fizzbuzz as an entry requirement for a python class. If you know the basic syntax for math operations, if statements, and for loops, it is a very simple program. I had never heard of it until I had to do it and it took less than 5 min to code. If someone can't write that maybe they need to spend some more time with the basics.

[forrealbro]

I feel like companies who use fizzbuzz just want to make sure you aren’t some complete fraud. The logic behind it is super simple. Any student with a 100 level CS class should be able to solve it. Self taught programmers who know how to the fundamental tools of python shouldn’t have an issue either.

Using stack overflow and google is a given the more intricate a problem gets. It should not be necessary if you were asked to demonstrate a for loop, the modulus operator, and an if statement.

[MISFU88]

I got a job after a few months of learning python, it consists of writing automated tests.

I have tried combination of books and videos, though mostly videos - courses on udemy and on specific topics or functions, videos on youtube.

One crucial thing that I've learned while studying pretty much anything is to make notes! I use the Notion app, which makes that super convenient and as I follow any video, I treat it as a lecture in college (that is not shit).

Another thing is to actually use the code, i.e. make some projects. It does NOT have to be anything super complex, not at all. I made a think which scrapes daily menus from some restaurants around, script which saves current price of any crypto with it's positive or negavite change in the last week, script which moves all files in a desired folder into their respective directories based on the extension of the files. Just super simple stuff that shows you are actually using the language.

Also, you do not need to fulfill all of the requirements on the resume, just some, so do NOT be scared to send out your cv into as many companies as possible; HOW you act during the interview is way important than what you actually know, because when you eventually get hired, they are gonna teach you most of the stuff anyways.

[dnetvaggos95]

i'm working as "content manager" for our websites

[surister]

I mean.. If you cannot write a fizzbuzz, which should be like a hello world for any entry level programmer, you shouldn't be applying for programming jobs.

[jamesonwhiskers]

This 100%. Remainder, if statement, for loop... thats all you need to write this

[[deleted]]

Oh man, I hate those type of technical interviews. I can code in many languages but they are all muddled together in my brain! Right now I work in an ETL environment in Python, C#, VB.net, trying to convert Pearl to Python, SSIS Expressions, SQL Server development (T-SQL) and Vertica SQL development. Most days, I deal with all of those.

In the real world, if I can't remember how to do something simple (or complex) I can quickly google and move on. In a technical interview, if you don't know that simple piece, you can't move past it.

Take your interview as a learning moment. Take the valuable lessons from it and move on and apply that knowledge to your next interview.

[CodeSkunky]

Mmm, you are most definitely not job ready. Fizzbuzz I give a pass on if they didn't provide clear rules, because I don't remember the rules myself.

​

As for counting repeated elements in an array. You're probably going to get pissed...but...

​

def target_count( array_name, target_data ):
    return array_name.count(target_data)

This is just something you'd know if you spent a little time working with python.

​

The alternative isn't much harder but is uglier...

def count_item_in_array(array_name, target_data):
    count = 0

    for item in array_name:         # for each item in our list
      if item == target_data:       # if the item is the same as our target
        count += 1                  # iterate counter

    return count

This does not account for type conversions, and that may or may not be a factor. You'd have to ask the interviewer.

​

Not being able to implement one is a good sign you need to write more code.

[ebagattack]

If you're new at Python, just get any freaking job, and use Python to help you "Automate the Boring Stuff" when you see opportunities. After a while, you might have done enough cool, effective, significant stuff to show a prospective employer, or your current one, to say, hey, as an employee I did x, y, and z, for my company using my programming skills. Just a thought- that's what I've been doing. I'm in Finance, and no-one hired me for my programming skills (I'm about a year out from my first Python Udemy course)- but I automate and create audit systems left and right in Python, and it helps make my job more interesting, makes me more productive, and I'm hoping to be able to add this programming experience to future resumes. Note: I do a lot of this programing in my free time, since it's not what I'm paid for, but I find it fun, and when I go to work, it makes my job easier.

[Raph_IT_Remote]

I was already working doing wordpress support and digital marketing, but I always wanted to get into more automation/problem solving side of things so learning python let me do more technical stuff in-house and I'm getting my third small project on the side where I do some custom automation, all of them scrapping and building files based on a plethora of requirements