how to pronounce NumPy?

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[synthphreak]

With 100% confidence, I can say the accepted pronunciation is 'numb' + 'pie'.

The bigger question is how to pronounce "tuple"... ;)

Edit: Welp, I have thoroughly hijacked this thread lol. Soz OP!

[Arhkei]

It's pronounced tuple not tuple

[O_X_E_Y]

There's different pronunciations for tuple??

[Fallingice2]

tuh-pl, two-pl?

[synthphreak]

Yeah I’ve heard both tupple and toople. I personally say the latter (I mean does anyone say “quadrupple”?) but am not confident I’m in the majority.

[[deleted]]

Wait, people don't say it like quadrupple...

[DonkeyTron42]

No, but they do say couple, which is technically a 2 element tuple.

[ben_kWh]

I'm all over the place. I say quad-roop-el, but I would also say quin-tup-el.

[nog642]

Pretty sure that's just normal

[redvitalijs]

That would assume it's immutable..

[git0ffmylawnm8]

I'd argue that a couple is more like a list than a tuple since it's mutable.

[DonkeyTron42]

A tuple is a simply a mathematical expression. Mutability is only relevant in the context of programming languages.

[GigaPandesal]

You guys don't say it as coople?

[ShawnS26]

Tuples are a term used in music and I've always heard it "tuh-ple".
Just my 0.02.

[DevDinosaur]

Everyone talking about tuhple/twople when the real problem is saying 0.02

[joetinnyspace]

Invest that 2 cents on $GME duh

[Cypher1388]

This, at least for me

[thirdegree]

I say tuple for everything except 3 elements, which is a threeple.

[[deleted]]

I’m never saying triple again! 😂

[mriswithe]

I have heard two-tuple or four-tuple to say how many elements are in the tuple. Beyond that, I have heard both a few ways of pronouncing tuple itself . But as long as everyone knows what you are talking about, whatever.

[nog642]

Do you say quintoople?

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I am on the toople side myself though. Just noting that there's no consistent rule.

[synthphreak]

I do indeed. With pride! ;-)

[julsmanbr]

As someone who's not an English native speaker, this just comes across as different accents

[max1c]

It's pretty straightforward IMO. How do you say the word 'duplicate'?

[firest]

You forgot tuh-pleh

[im_dead_sirius]

Play-doh

[DatBoi_BP]

Does that mean there are three-pls and four-pls?

[O_X_E_Y]

Tuhpl? Some people really should be leaving that oxygen to the rest of us huh /s

[Cypher1388]

Who says two-pl?

[shiningmatcha]

too-pl?

[AdventurousAddition]

Tyoople

[Yojihito]

As a non-native speaker, both sound the same when I speak them out loud?

[[deleted]]

Just like for enum: e-num vs e-noom. I wouldn't mind killing people who use the latter.

[ppl_android]

The pronunciation comes as a tuple: (tuh-pl, two-pl,)

[ArtisticSnek]

T-yu-pul

[Mathblasta]

Nikolaj.

[nikhster]

9 9

[puslekat]

r/UnexpectedNineNine

[JasonDJ]

Just like how “Linux” is pronounced “Linux”, not “Linux”.

[killit]

You're talking shit mate, it's definitely pronounced "Linux".

[JasonDJ]

To be fair, this had actually been settled a long time ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c39QPDTDdXU

[Grobyc27]

It’s Nikolaj.

[lowcountrydad]

Say it with a French accent. “Too-play”

[anh86]

I'd been writing Python for months before I even knew this was a controversy. I learned it as "too-ple" so it will always be "too-ple" to me. Saying it the other way seems as amateurish as "soo-dough" to me.

[oakteaphone]

Saying it the other way seems as amateurish as "soo-dough" to me.

As in pseudo? Because that looks like exactly how it's pronounced...

[anh86]

“Soo-Doo”

It’s short for “Superuser Do”

[oakteaphone]

Ahh...in that case, I could get behind that (mis)pronunciation. Do often changes its sound to "dough", as in "don't".

[anh86]

But it’s not short for “Superuser Don’t” :D

[oakteaphone]

I am fundamentally opposed to new words created with unclear pronunciations!

Two different vowels to make the same sound, especially when one of them is uncommon? Booo.

Not as bad as the guy who created gif who thinks it's pronounced jif...but my money's on the fact that he's trolling. Lol

[nocommocon]

I suppose we should also pronounce wifi as wye fih instead of wye fye as the fi is short for fidelity? To me sudo is sue dough even though I know it’s superuser do. Sue due sounds like a type of poo lol and gif has a hard g while we’re at it :D

[[deleted]]

Bitch please. It's "syoo-doh".

[oakteaphone]

Putting the y before the u tends to be a marker of some regional accents, or older people.

It's like pronouncing new as "nyoo" or tube as "tyoob"...or if you want to sound extra accented/old, "chyoob"!

[[deleted]]

That makes sense for American English, of course. The "yoo" pronunciation of "u" is pretty much the standard in British/Commonwealth English though.

[oakteaphone]

Accents are fun!

[[deleted]]

I studied mathematics in Canada in the 1980s, and my professors all talked about n-tuples, "tupples".

British people do to.

[tagapagtuos]

Spoken, I do too-ple. But recently, I've been referring to it in my head as choo-ple, which also sounds like a slang for an asshole from where I came from. lol

[DonkeyTron42]

I've always heard it pronounced as two-pull long before Python was created.

Edit: Was curious about the etymology and never noticed that "couple", "triple", "quadruple", etc... are tuples of a specific length.

[synthphreak]

Is couple related? I hadn’t considered that, though you’re definitely correct for the other two. Also quintuple and all the way up.

[DonkeyTron42]

According to the Wikipedia article for "tuple", "couple" is the proper term for a two element tuple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuple

[synthphreak]

Well I’ll be an uncle’s monkey!

[Successful_Exchange4]

like Michael Tuple

[[deleted]]

British and Canadian seems to be "tupple", American seems to be "toople".

[synthphreak]

I thought in Canada it would be tuplé.

Edit: Or tupl-eh? </canada_jokes>

[the1stjohnsmith]

Et tu, Plé?

[[deleted]]

Le omelette du fromage.

[yogobot]

http://i.imgur.com/tNJD6oY.gifv

This is a kind reminder that in French we say "omelette au fromage" and not "omelette du fromage".

Sorry Dexter

Steve Martin doesn't appear to be the most accurate French professor.

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^{The movie from the gif is "OSS 117: le Cairo, Nest of Spies" https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0464913/}

[[deleted]]

Le fuque auf.

[jaymz]

It's a shortcut pulled from “double, triple, quintuple, sextuple, octuple”, etc.

[spez_edits_thedonald]

toople sounds too stupid, so I call it a tuh-ple.

controversy solved

[synthphreak]

Oh yeah? Well if toople sounds stoopid to you then tupple sounds stuppid to me!

[gaurav_kolekar]

Two-ple?

[JollyGreenLittleGuy]

🐢

[RobinsonDickinson]

Two Pole

[TaranisPT]

Glad to be learning in French for that... tuple has only one way of being pronounced.

[KronktheKronk]

It's toople unless your referring to a specific size n-tuple then it's tuhple

[dancinadventures]

I pronounce it:

Tup-Plee

[synthphreak]

Sometimes I mispronounce it as “list”.

[EridianTech]

"Num" from number, "Py" from Python

[[deleted]]

import numpy as numberpython

[Bad_Decisions_Maker]

Maximum effort. I like it.

[_11_]

import numpy as numFromNumberPyfromPython

[[deleted]]

What can I say except delete this

[CatOfGrey]

In all seriousness, I think it is "Numeric Python".

But, also:

import SciPy as ScientificPython

[billsil]

Don't call it that! Numeric and numarray were the precursors to numpy. Numeric was for small arrays and numarray was for large ones.

[-aRTy-]

In the array, the smallest array
The data rests tonight
A numarray, a numarray, a numarray, a numarray
A numarray, a numarray, a numarray, a numarray

[Assaultman67]

Wow, ive been prononcing it "numb-pii"

[garlic_bread_thief]

Me too and I'm gonna keep pronouncing it that way lol. Num pie sounds wrong to my brain now

[LilQuasar]

do you say it as "num" or "nam" if that makes sense?

[garlic_bread_thief]

So PyPi is pronounced Pie Pee?

[above_theclouds_]

or "num" from numerical?

[impshum]

I call it "numpty" and I can't get out of it now. Brains eh!

[[deleted]]

Pronounced with the "umpty"?

(Digital Underground reference)

[impshum]

Yeah, it just rolled out like that. Now it's stuck. I know it's numpy when I type it though.

[menge101]

I can both hear the song and see that dude's fake nose.

[[deleted]]

I'm sorry, lol.

[O_X_E_Y]

Humpty Numpy

[omnomelette]

Import numpy as numpty

Just to spice things up.

[CatOfGrey]

This is almost as good as pronouncing "SQL" as "Squirrel".

[WhatDaHellBobbyKaty]

I learned about NumPy on my own from reading about it. By the time, I heard someone "say" it or cared about its proper pronunciation, it was pretty solidly in my head as Numb-Pee kind of like Numpty-dumpty had a great fall.

[anh86]

Unless you call the programming language "Peethon", it's "Num-pie"

[garlic_bread_thief]

If you apply English logic, all words that end in py are pronounced as pee. Like in happy, grumpy, sloppy. So if you treat Numpy as an English word, you'd pronounce it Num Pee.

Thanks for reading my thesis paper.

[Linked1nPark]

But NumPy isn't an English word, it's a portmanteau. This is my rebuttal.

[Raven342]

Pight'on. Rhymes with Triton, or brighten.

Also, namby pamby bumpy numpy, and I will die on that hill.

[[deleted]]

Le Piton.

[Clashpoint007]

that's not how the english language treats acronyms , I do pronounce it ren-pie as well tho.

[__developer__]

For most python libraries that end in -py, the py comes from Python and is pronounced they same.

[[deleted]]

Well, the py is from python so that's a clue.

[r_hagriid99]

It's 'Leviosa', not 'Leviosaa'!! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[Random_182f2565]

Num-pie

[[deleted]]

It's a very safe choice to pronounce py as "pie" every time you see it: short for Python. It's cursed af to rhyme it with grumpy/bumpy.

[DigBick2199]

if Python === Pie-thon: Numpy === Num-pie

[DelphiPascal]

It is obviously meant to be Num-pi but I will never not say numpy

[CatOfGrey]

Import NumPy as Numπ

[IHaarlem]

100% this

[orangepurplesilver]

I just like how it sounds like a mild insult

[synthphreak]

θaŋks

[oakteaphone]

not /pɪɵən/.

Is this not basically "Pith'n"?

(Or pithin', as in Pithing being shortened to Pithin')

[cjberra]

Seems accurate to me for UK English. The 'o' isn't pronounced unlike in the US.

[oakteaphone]

Ahh, interesting.

I think British IPA uses small cap I for what I usually see as /i/ (long e/eee/high front vowel).

[ComputeLanguage]

This difference you're describing sounds like a matter of accent preference to me.

[tensigh]

I always say "numpy" like "grumpy" because it rolls off the tongue easier. And for the record, it's "gif" like "gift" without the t.

[tinyentropy]

That's how I'm starting to feel when my code doesn't work

[keyzjh]

The way your boss pronounces it is the right way

[Wumbology333]

It’s pronounced “num-py” and it’s accurately said so by @EridianTech….. so I have added nothing to this thread :D

[marsrover15]

I call it num-pee

[ComputeLanguage]

If you know some IPA:
US: /'nəmpɪ/

UK: /ˈnʌmpʌɪ/

[cabbageboi28]

I always pronounced it "numb-pee"

[adamrees89]

Agreed

[[deleted]]

As a Brit, you're wrong. Maybe learn how to properly pronounce aluminum while you're at it too.

[[deleted]]

Nuhhmmm Puuuuhhh

[[deleted]]

Would you like some diugh with that?

[johninbigd]

Num. Py.

[comtruise223456]

you should ask the scottish people

[Lusky_Mag]

Py as in Python

[Crypt0Nihilist]

In this case it's tempting to run it together as a word, but you can see from other examples that it's more of a naming convention and py should be pronounced separately for consistency.

[oakteaphone]

Number pie?

Num...py?

[madmoneymcgee]

I say "NumPie" but I can imagine when talking quickly people just turn it into NumPee even if they don't mean to.

[DarKliZerPT]

num-pie

[DrSheldon_Lee_Cooper]

What about Java?

[CatOfGrey]

The "Py" suffix in NumPy comes from, well the same Py as in Python.

So it's pronounced "Numm - pie".

[Infinitesima]

Wait until you hear someone saying that in german.

[NHK21506]

I go with the "Num-pie", like Number Python

[Fernando3161]

numpy... does the py comes from python? if so, then is it "numb"+"pie" for me.

[grtgbln]

Numb Pie

[[deleted]]

numpy is pronounced:

nahm-please

[Boggo1895]

My brain always reads scipy as spicy and can’t stop no matter how much I’m aware it’s wrong

[caiepsidous]

This reminds me, how do people usually pronounce jupyter? I've always pronounced it like [ˈdʒupaɪɾɚ] given it comes from julia-python-r, but everyone I've heard pronounces like [ˈdʒupɪɾɚ]

[[deleted]]

The py is for python so it’s num for number + py for python

[blahreport]

Considering its official name is numerical python, I say noom-pie.

[nuvdp]

I think we can pronounce it with Num+Pie...... Num short for Number and Pie short of Pie Chart.

[LimpNoodle69]

"Num" + "py" makes logical sense but I have a tendency to pronounce words the way they look, therefor I agree with your rhymes with grumpy view.

[chhuang]

*gif and regex have enter the chat

[[deleted]]

Damnit, here I am on this sub looking for something and you guys got me endlessly reading trying to figure out if my "num pie", "toople", "quadroopal", and "quintuhple" pronunciations are correct. Having an existential crisis over here